Linux-Development-Sys Digest #426, Volume #6 Wed, 24 Feb 99 08:13:37 EST
Contents:
Re: PROOF: Jesus *is* Lord of the Sabbath! (Tony)
Re: PROOF: Jesus *is* Lord of the Sabbath! (Ed Rodda)
HELP CDROM... ("Thierry BUCCO")
Re: banshee problems (Arthur Corliss)
Re: LINUX MERCED (Pete Zaitcev)
Testers Needed: CPU detection module! (Kendall Bennett)
Re: Purely Technical (Jan Andres)
Re: LINUX MERCED (taniwha)
Re: LINUX MERCED (Christopher B. Browne)
Re: Where do as86 and ld86 come from? (Robert Schiele)
Re: PROOF: Jesus *is* Lord of the Sabbath! ("Bob Taylor")
Personals for free here 77836 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: PROOF: Jesus *is* Lord of the Sabbath! (Julian Robert Yon)
Re: PROOF: Jesus *is* Lord of the Sabbath! (Julian Robert Yon)
Re: Why I'm dumping Linux, going back to Windblows (Julian Robert Yon)
Re: scsiinfo: defective list not more than 512 entries (Andreas Schwab)
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From: Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
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Subject: Re: PROOF: Jesus *is* Lord of the Sabbath!
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 20:22:08 -0500
Michael J. Levesque wrote:
> When was the last time you re-translatted the original texts that the
> the bible is based on. Any english language bible is NOT a direct
> translation, it is a best guess. There are many words and phrases in
> the original transcripts for which there is no similar english word.
Correct. How many "original" texts are there btw?? As for translations,
we do it all the time. Ever translate one language to another? No, you
don't do it word for word all the time. Other times, it is expressing
the "thought" and intent.
> short the Bible has been perverted over centuries of rehashing to
> inflect translators beliefs and biases. If you want to base an your
> argument on the bible you might as well base your argument on pile of
> used toilet paper... it's all crap.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
No evidence, no proof. as is your statements. If you want
to continue this "discussion" with evidence and facts. Email.
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Subject: Re: PROOF: Jesus *is* Lord of the Sabbath!
From: Ed Rodda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 23 Feb 1999 18:37:59 -0800
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Cornelius) writes:
>Ed Rodda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the following on 23 Feb 1999 13:32:37
>-0800:
>
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Cornelius) writes:
>>
>>>The Bible, where Christians base their belief, clearly states that
>>
>>>same-sex couples (sexually-intimate couples), are completely
>>>disgusting--an abomination to the Lord. In fact, that's one of the
>>>main reasons Sodom and Gomorrah (spelling?) were destroyed.
>>
>>Interesting, you state this as a fact. Where's the archaeological
>>evidence?
>
>In case you hadn't figured it out, Christians believe the Bible. This
>story is there--why is evidence needed?
Fine, Christians believe, I have no argument with that. But there's a
world of difference between a belief and a fact. You believe God
destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah, but your belief doesn't make it a
fact. A small boy can believe there's a bogey man in his closet, but
that doesn't mean it's a fact there's a bogey man in the closet. And,
btw, you can't prove there is or isn't a bogey man in the closet any
more than you can prove or disprove there's a God in heaven.
--
Ed
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From: "Thierry BUCCO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: HELP CDROM...
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 05:47:54 +0100
Hi,
little problem...
I record a session into cdr, after this, i want read the cd's name. But the
cd's name is which i've inserted before.
Is there a way to force kernel to reload info about cd.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Arthur Corliss)
Subject: Re: banshee problems
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 22 Feb 1999 09:00:05 -0900
On Sun, 21 Feb 1999 14:17:07 -0500, Pascal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I dunno how to configure my banshee to the linux xwindows please help.
>I am a new linux user so I don't realy know how to do it hehe.
>reply if you can to
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>thanks a lot
Just go to http://glide.xxedgexx.com and get the XF86Config and X server
there.
--Arthur Corliss
Bolverk's Lair -- http://www.odinicfoundation.org/arthur/
"Live Free or Die, the Only Way to Live" -- NH State Motto
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Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: LINUX MERCED
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pete Zaitcev)
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 05:52:10 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher B. Browne) writes:
>If IA-64 boxes start in price at $15,000, which is not at all
>unlikely, then there won't be too many home users any time soon.
Chris, $15K is the price of Sun Enterprise 450, supported by Linux.
You are not shooting yourself in the foot, are you?
>Hackers are not going to swarm to hardware that they can't *afford to
>buy,* which, at the time, is unlikely to offer performance advantages
>over other hardware *THAT IS CHEAPER.*
No argument about that but in truth we do not need to swarm on
IA-64 to make it work. For example, sparc and sparc64 archs were
basically made by David S. Miller. I think he produced several times
more than myself, Miguel de Icaza, Jakub Jelinek, Eddie Dost,
Dave Redman all combined. We only need one man.
--Pete
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kendall Bennett)
Subject: Testers Needed: CPU detection module!
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 20:50:26 -0800
Hi All,
I have made some updates to the CPU detection code that lives in the
SciTech MGL Graphics library, and it now supports detecting all Intel,
AMD and Cyrix processors. It should be able to detect and accurately
measure the CPU speed for the following processors:
. Intel i386
. Intel i486
. Intel Pentium
. Intel Pentium Pro
. Intel Pentium II
. Intel Pentium III
. Cyrix 6x86
. Cyrix 6x86MX
. Cyrix MediaGX
. Cyrix MedaiGXm
. AMD Am486
. AMD Am5x86
. AMD K5
. AMD K6
. AMD K6-2
. AMD K6-III
It will also detect if MMX, RDTSC and 3DNow! support is available on the
processor as well. It would be very much appreciated if people can try
out this program and let me know if it correctly detects the processor
families, CPU speed and features. You can download 32-bit DOS executeable
that you can try out from the following ftp site:
ftp://ftp.scitechsoft.com/devel/cpu.zip
Full source code to this is coming in the SciTech MGL 4.5 release. If
anyone who is interested in seeing the sources (or helping fix problems
if we are misdetecting anything), drop me a line via email.
Also if you want to try this under Linux, drop me a line and I can put a
Linux version up on our ftp site as well (currently the Linux build is
having problems or I would have put it up immediately).
Regards,
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jan Andres)
Subject: Re: Purely Technical
Date: 22 Feb 1999 18:33:12 +0100
"Eugene K." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi!
>
> I have a modem hooked up to /dev/cua2. Once I accidently turned off my
> computer without shutting down first, and since then I have not been
> able to access my modem. I am pretty sure this has something to do with
> lock files, because on some applications it says "Sorry, the modem is
> busy". Has anyone had this problem before?
There are lock files in /var/lock/. Look for one with `cua2' in its
name and delete it, then all is okay.
Btw, you should use `ttyS2' instead of `cua2'.
--
Jan Andres
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Ham radio: DH2JAN
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From: taniwha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: LINUX MERCED
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 07:02:43 +0000
Christopher B. Browne wrote:
>
> The fundamental problem is the nonavailability of GCC for IA-64.
one thing pople should realise is that there's much more work in
porting the libraries, linker, and compiler for a 'traditional'
architecture (and then more again for Merced which relys so much more on
its
compiler) than there is in porting the kernel - my one quick and dirty
linux port to a new ISA (admittedly a 'friendly' one) was probably a day
to hack a kernel into place, a week for a barely useable GCC and twice
that
for a linker and libraries (all times rough hand waving - but you get
the idea)
> That is *THE* stumbling block, aside from the likely problem of system
> prices starting at the "distant side of $10,000."
well yeah that too :-)
Paul
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher B. Browne)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: LINUX MERCED
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 06:47:10 GMT
On Wed, 24 Feb 1999 05:52:10 GMT, Pete Zaitcev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher B. Browne) writes:
>>If IA-64 boxes start in price at $15,000, which is not at all
>>unlikely, then there won't be too many home users any time soon.
>
>Chris, $15K is the price of Sun Enterprise 450, supported by Linux.
>You are not shooting yourself in the foot, are you?
Is it realistic for IA-64 boxes to start off *CHEAPER* than Xeon-based
systems?
I don't think it is, and Xeon, which is a far more "conventional"
technology, is mucho expensive. The web reference I see for the 2MB
Cache variety are priced at $4K just for a CPU.
<http://www.tdl.com/~netex/cpu/cpu.html> suggests Merced prices
starting at on the order of $4K.
Is it worth buying that expensive CPU without putting some substantial
amounts of hardware around it to make it useful?
I could be off by a few thousand, but not by an order of magnitude.
Early Merced is *definitely* going to be really expensive (from PC
perspective), just like every other "high performance" architecture
that Intel has ever released.
Will it be more expensive than some UltraSPARC systems? Perhaps so.
Based on the publicity that Merced was getting a year ago, one could
have believed that people would think that as soon as IA-64 is
released that SPARC-based systems would somehow magically stop
working, and that regardless of price, everyone should *of course*
adopt IA-64.
I think that the lack of multiple vendors of IA-64 will hurt sales, in
that people will realize that entrusting one vendor (Intel) with
control is as dangerous as it was to entrust Microsoft and IBM with
control at their zeniths.
>>Hackers are not going to swarm to hardware that they can't *afford to
>>buy,* which, at the time, is unlikely to offer performance advantages
>>over other hardware *THAT IS CHEAPER.*
>
>No argument about that but in truth we do not need to swarm on
>IA-64 to make it work. For example, sparc and sparc64 archs were
>basically made by David S. Miller. I think he produced several times
>more than myself, Miguel de Icaza, Jakub Jelinek, Eddie Dost,
>Dave Redman all combined. We only need one man.
There may not need to be a "swarm" of people in order to make a Linux
port work; that wasn't *particularly* what was being referred to.
It's nice that Linux works on M68K systems; there's not a huge "swarm"
of users of *that* port...
--
Those who do not understand Unix are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
-- Henry Spencer <http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/lsf.html>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - "What have you contributed to free software today?..."
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From: Robert Schiele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Where do as86 and ld86 come from?
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 09:38:45 +0100
Mike Dowling wrote:
>
> Both these binaries are required to build the kernel, and both on my system
> are very old. I would like to re-compile them, but I don't know what source
> package to look for.
You should get bin86-0.4.tar.gz which is available for example at
ftp://tsx-11.mit.edu/pub/linux/packages/GCC/.
>
> Any help is much appreciated,
>
> Cheers,
> Mike Dowling
>
> --
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ("Bob Taylor")
Subject: Re: PROOF: Jesus *is* Lord of the Sabbath!
Crossposted-To:
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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 10:00:13 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Michael J. Levesque" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> When was the last time you re-translatted the original texts that the
> the bible is based on. Any english language bible is NOT a direct
> translation, it is a best guess. There are many words and phrases in
> the original transcripts for which there is no similar english word. In
> short the Bible has been perverted over centuries of rehashing to
> inflect translators beliefs and biases. If you want to base an your
> argument on the bible you might as well base your argument on pile of
> used toilet paper... it's all crap.
Sigh. What a load of wishful thinking. Ever hear of the Dead Sea Scrolls?
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From: Julian Robert Yon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: PROOF: Jesus *is* Lord of the Sabbath!
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 10:53:41 +0000
David Allen wrote:
> {Insert rant that would generally p*** this guy off but that I'm too
> tired to type out}
>
> OBVIOUSLY you've mistaken me for someone who vaguely gives a s*** about
> your pathetic little life, christian.
But there is no need to be so offensive, regardless of what this guy
wrote (and I admit to missing the original posting).
It always makes me wonder, when I read such outbursts, why someone who
"doesn't give a..." feels they have to go on the defensive. Perhaps you
recognise you have something to worry about?
Julian
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From: Julian Robert Yon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: PROOF: Jesus *is* Lord of the Sabbath!
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 10:47:55 +0000
Ed Rodda wrote:
> Fine, Christians believe, I have no argument with that. But there's a
> world of difference between a belief and a fact. You believe God
> destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah, but your belief doesn't make it a
> fact. A small boy can believe there's a bogey man in his closet, but
> that doesn't mean it's a fact there's a bogey man in the closet. And,
> btw, you can't prove there is or isn't a bogey man in the closet any
> more than you can prove or disprove there's a God in heaven.
There is a place for proof, and a place for faith. Christianity is the
latter. That's what it's all about.
Julian
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From: Julian Robert Yon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Why I'm dumping Linux, going back to Windblows
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 10:32:12 +0000
Matthew Isleb wrote:
> Can I ask what this obsession with the Office 97 file format is? I mean,
> so you have to save files in an older format for portability, big deal.
> Or do the hypothetical users you are talking about use 100% of the Office 97
> features which would prevent the usage of another file format. Get real.
And of course, Office is the only "Productivity Suite" I have used which
can make a simple spreadsheet, a couple of charts and a 300 word report
take up 3.5M of disk space. I think our friend is clutching at straws...
Julian
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From: Andreas Schwab <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: scsiinfo: defective list not more than 512 entries
Date: 24 Feb 1999 12:29:04 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dieter Rohlfing) writes:
|> I have scsiinfo 1.7.
|>
|> With the option -d (show defective list) the program shows two lists
|> with defective sectors of a SCSI hard disk (manufacturer defective list
|> and grown defective list).
|>
|> Allthough the program shows the number of entries, it lists only the
|> first 512 entries of either list.
There is a limit of 4096 bytes that one can send or receive via the
SCSI_IOCTL_SEND_COMMAND interface.
|> Can anybody help? I want all (more than the first 512 entries of a
|> defective list) entries.
Rewrite scsiinfo to use the SCSI generic (/dev/sg?) interface.
--
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