Linux-Development-Sys Digest #435, Volume #6 Sat, 27 Feb 99 10:17:45 EST
Contents:
Re: Raw writing to PCMCIA SRAM cards ("Scot E. Wilcoxon")
Raw writing to PCMCIA SRAM cards ("Mark Smith")
using modem on Linux ("boy3")
Don't want to loose win '98 docs etc.., & want Linux NOW! (Kishore)
Re: "RPM's harmful to Linux" harmful to Linux (David Fox)
Re: Will 2.2.x support removable medias better? (Jim Cromie)
ethernet dec21143 problems ("asdf")
Re: LINUX MERCED
Re: glibc-2.1 install problems (Andreas Jaeger)
Re: LINUX MERCED (Christopher B. Browne)
Re: Here's A Truly UNIQUE Filesystem Problem !!! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: hdparm? (Peter Samuelson)
Re: "RPM's harmful to Linux" harmful to Linux (Todd Knarr)
Program to generate the Makefile? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Porting Solaris to Linux (Dan Buckley)
Re: Don't want to loose win '98 docs etc.., & want Linux NOW! (Matthew Bloch)
Re: Program to generate the Makefile? ("David Z. Maze")
How do I fetch the cursor key block with vga_getch? (Norman Beran)
Re: Here's A Truly UNIQUE Filesystem Problem !!! (Spiros Ioannou)
Re: looking for a way to stuff keystrokes (Willem Rein Oudshoorn)
Re: failed gcc build (Paul Bristow)
Re: Making a distro (Paul Tiseo)
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Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 20:48:45 -0600
From: "Scot E. Wilcoxon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Re: Raw writing to PCMCIA SRAM cards
> What, "dd" isn't nice enough??
Maybe "cat" or ">" will do.
(There's usually six ways to do things -- what are some more...?)
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From: "Mark Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Raw writing to PCMCIA SRAM cards
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 17:53:05 -0000
Hello,
With the PCMCIA drivers under Linux is it possible to write a binary to an
SRAM card ?
I want to do some development for my Amstrad PDA600 and dump the programs
onto SRAM so as they'll load. The PDA requires that the binaries are
written in a "raw" format to the card, the cards musn't be treated by the
development system as though it was a disk.
Anyone know the answers ?
Regards
Mark Smith
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From: "boy3" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: using modem on Linux
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 21:29:15 -0800
Hi,
I tried to use the chat program in Linux to establish connections between to
Linux station using two modems over the phone line, but for some reason, the
remote station gives me some strange symbols. Then I used minicom to
establish the connection, but I couldn't get the login prompt comes out.
Instead I got other strange symbols. Anyone has any idea how to fix this
problem? Which files should I modify?
Thank you very much
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From: Kishore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Don't want to loose win '98 docs etc.., & want Linux NOW!
Date: 27 Feb 1999 04:32:08 GMT
Hi Folks,
I have a Cyrix MII ,128 mb, 6.4 gb HD PC.
Win'98 is loaded throughout this disk.
I have lot of stuff(docs, prgs etc..,) on my PC. I don't want to loose
them.
Is there any way that I can load Linux to share this and make my PC dual
bootable. I want to allot 3gb to Linux and 3.4 gb should remain for MS.
Please give a detailed input if pos'
Thanx for the inputs.
Kishore
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From: d s f o x @ c o g s c i . u c s d . e d u (David Fox)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: "RPM's harmful to Linux" harmful to Linux
Date: 26 Feb 1999 20:54:32 -0800
Peter Mutsaers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I find it pretty stupid and annoying that RH uses rpm's that contain
> full sourcecode instead of only patches and build instructions. For
> every minor update you need to download the whole package again,
> waisting bandwidth and time.
It seems like a mistake to base the decision of what packaging system
to use on an inconvenience that only affects you if you are
hyperkinetically following daily updates. If you're that deeply
involved in a particular package you can always install it using
tarballs or whatever technique you like. There are hundreds of other
packages that RPM saves you having to futz around with.
--
David Fox http://hci.ucsd.edu/dsf xoF divaD
UCSD HCI Lab baL ICH DSCU
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From: Jim Cromie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Will 2.2.x support removable medias better?
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 08:04:48 +0000
Phil Howard wrote:For JAZ and ZIP and related devices, if the eject button can
simply signal
> the driver that a manual eject was requested, then something could do
> the unmount and then do an eject, and that would be useful.
>
> But can the hardware do that?
casual observation says it can. On my CD-ROM drive (yes, its one of the
irrelevant devices), the
eject button is ignored until un-mounted. Some (not mine) floppys do it too. Id
anticipate that its
a standard feature on new devices.
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Reply-To: "asdf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "asdf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ethernet dec21143 problems
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 00:25:58 -0800
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
I'm having problems in getting my network card to work. Red Hat 5.0 detects
it as a "tulip," though I never actually tried to get to work on RH. In
Slackware, I can't insert the tulip module, and the de4x5 will insert but I
get an "uninitialized" message with "lsmod." How can I get my card
initialized. It's a built-in card, it's supposed to be DEC21143 based.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: LINUX MERCED
Date: 26 Feb 1999 01:49:39 GMT
I probably won't be getting a quad processor system for a few years now,
all I ever get are hand-me-downs... =(... That's why I'm still on a
486DX4/100MHz... =(
But Linux works *TONS* faster than Windows on it, so I use it. =)
- Mike
On 25 Feb 1999 22:44:48 GMT, bill davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>Christopher B. Browne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>| If the hardware is ridiculously expensive, as is entirely typical for
>| latest generations of Intel hardware, then who will want to "swarm en
>| masse" to it?
>|
>| Note the *lack* of swarming of Linux hackers to Xeon.
>
>What lack? Linus has a quad system, or so he posts.
>
>--
> bill davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CTO, TMR Associates, Inc
>Politicians and diapers have one thing in common. They should both be
>changed regularly and for the same reason.
> --Ted Symons(?)
>
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From: Andreas Jaeger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: glibc-2.1 install problems
Date: 27 Feb 1999 10:03:20 +0100
>>>>> asdf writes:
> Can someone help me out? I get the following error when installing the
> already compiled library:
> In file included from /usr/include/stdio.h:57,
> from /tmp/test-prg12996.c:2:
> /usr/include/libio.h:335: parse error before `_IO_seekoff'
> /usr/include/libio.h:335: parse error before `_G_off64_t'
> /usr/include/libio.h:336: parse error before `_IO_seekpos'
> /usr/include/libio.h:336: parse error before `_G_fpos64_t'
> Execution of gcc failed!
> I've read the FAQ and the README.
You've got the wrong _G_config.h file in your include path. Compile a
simple hello world program with gcc -E and check from where
_G_config.h is taken - and remove that one. The right _G_config.h
version lifes in /usr/include and comes with glibc 2.1.
Andreas
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher B. Browne)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: LINUX MERCED
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 01:53:07 GMT
On 25 Feb 1999 22:44:48 GMT, bill davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>Christopher B. Browne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>| If the hardware is ridiculously expensive, as is entirely typical for
>| latest generations of Intel hardware, then who will want to "swarm en
>| masse" to it?
>|
>| Note the *lack* of swarming of Linux hackers to Xeon.
>
>What lack? Linus has a quad system, or so he posts.
"Swarming" involves there being *huge* quantities of folks buying
them.
Linus may have one;I was not aware of that.
There seems to be a whole lot more people "swarming" around Celeron
300A and AMD K6-2-3D boxes that cost thousands of dollars less.
--
Those who do not understand Unix are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
-- Henry Spencer <http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/lsf.html>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Here's A Truly UNIQUE Filesystem Problem !!!
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 08:27:57 GMT
In article <36d48fb5.13062052@news>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Carl Spalletta) wrote:
>
> Here's an interesting problem: How can a file with ZERO links remain
> listed in an ext2 filesystem???
>
> $ ls -li /lib/libc.so.5
> EXT2-fs warding (device 03:42): ext2_free_inode: bit already cleared
> for inode 29477
> 29477 ?--------- 0 root root 0 Jan 1 1970 libc.so.5
>
> I have tried rerunning 'ldconfig -v' and I have run e2fsck up the
> kazoo, and I have also tried renaming the file to 'BADBLOCK' to take
> that inode out out of circulation but it always gets recreated the
> next time I boot.
>
> Needless to say this problem makes it impossible for me to reboot
> except with 'linux init=/bin/bash', and also needless to say it is
> extremely spooky in it's nature, out of the run of ordinary problems,
> and I hesitate to reinstall RedHat until I know what is going on.
>
Please, try:
# debugfs /dev/your_device
debugfs: dump /lib/libc.so.5
and post the output.
See you later.
Sergio
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Samuelson)
Subject: Re: hdparm?
Date: 25 Feb 1999 19:39:43 -0600
Reply-To: Peter Samuelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[Jun-young Cho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
> Where can I get the hdparm source?
Same place you can get most any Linux software -- a distribution
mirror. I'm a Debian guy, so:
ftp://ftp.kr.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/main/source/admin/hdparm*
--
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<sampo.creighton.edu!psamuels>
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From: Todd Knarr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: "RPM's harmful to Linux" harmful to Linux
Date: 26 Feb 1999 00:57:00 GMT
In comp.os.linux.development.system Bill Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A non source rpm (unless goofed up by the packager) does not include the
> full source. A non-source rpm distributes binaries and
> (usually)documentation.
I think there's three options for rpms:
1. Full source ( .src.rpm ) containing the source archives, patches and
spec file.
2. No-source ( .nosrc.rpm ) containing the patches and spec file but not
the original source archives.
3. Binary ( .i386.rpm, .alpha.rpm et. al. ) containing only executables,
config files and the like, ready for installation.
The virgin-source philosophy pretty much requires a full source RPM
when the original source changes, but patches could be distributed via
no-source RPMs easily enough.
--
All I want out of the Universe is 10 minutes with the source code and
a quick recompile.
-- unknown
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Program to generate the Makefile?
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 10:14:20 GMT
I know the imake and configure can be used to generate Makefile.
Is there any other choice?
Thanks.
Steven Nie ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: Dan Buckley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Porting Solaris to Linux
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 13:56:51 -0600
Doing a little porting of a rather large system from Solaris to Linux.
It appears that most all situations can be resolved except for one. We
use the Solaris tasking library and I am looking for something
comparable on Linux. The we have built our own intermediate classes
which derive from the task class so really anything that would
approximate the Solaris tasking library.
D. Buckley
Senior Engineer
Celestial Consulting, Inc.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthew Bloch)
Subject: Re: Don't want to loose win '98 docs etc.., & want Linux NOW!
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 10:31:36 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 27 Feb 1999 04:32:08 GMT, Kishore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi Folks,
>I have a Cyrix MII ,128 mb, 6.4 gb HD PC.
>Win'98 is loaded throughout this disk.
>I have lot of stuff(docs, prgs etc..,) on my PC. I don't want to loose
>them.
> Is there any way that I can load Linux to share this and make my PC dual
>bootable. I want to allot 3gb to Linux and 3.4 gb should remain for MS.
>Please give a detailed input if pos'
Actual repartitioning will always involve scrubbing the data on your disc;
there's no two ways about it. There's basically answers that don't
involve repartitioning; buy another hard drive and entirely devote it to
Linux (which is what I did; even finding an old 500Mb drive would do if
you're just testing the waters), or there's a particular Linux
distribution (the name escapes me) which uses DOS as its primary
filesystem. It's a bit ugly, but saves you from repartitioning.
--
Matthew ( http://www.soup-kitchen.demon.co.uk/ )
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From: "David Z. Maze" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Program to generate the Makefile?
Date: 27 Feb 1999 07:30:07 -0500
steven nie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
SN> I know the imake and configure can be used to generate Makefile.
SN> Is there any other choice?
Well, you can also use automake/autoconf. IMHO automake is much
easier to use than imake. The downside is that you also get autoconf,
which I unfortunately seem to have acquired zen for. *sigh*
You also can (and should) bite the bullet and just learn how Make
works. It's not that difficult, and you can create a simple makefile
fairly quickly once you start to understand what's going on.
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From: Norman Beran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: How do I fetch the cursor key block with vga_getch?
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 15:08:42 +0100
I want to react on the cursorkeys but I get for up and down the same
numbers from vga_getch.
Thanks a lot!
Norman
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Spiros Ioannou)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Here's A Truly UNIQUE Filesystem Problem !!!
Date: 27 Feb 1999 13:28:31 GMT
Carl Spalletta ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
:
: Here's an interesting problem: How can a file with ZERO links remain
: listed in an ext2 filesystem???
:
: $ ls -li /lib/libc.so.5
: EXT2-fs warding (device 03:42): ext2_free_inode: bit already cleared
: for inode 29477
: 29477 ?--------- 0 root root 0 Jan 1 1970 libc.so.5
:
: I have tried rerunning 'ldconfig -v' and I have run e2fsck up the
: kazoo, and I have also tried renaming the file to 'BADBLOCK' to take
: that inode out out of circulation but it always gets recreated the
: next time I boot.
:
: Needless to say this problem makes it impossible for me to reboot
: except with 'linux init=/bin/bash', and also needless to say it is
: extremely spooky in it's nature, out of the run of ordinary problems,
: and I hesitate to reinstall RedHat until I know what is going on.
Try running fsck manualy.
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| Departement of Electrical & Computer Eng.|
| National Technical University of Athens |
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Willem Rein Oudshoorn)
Subject: Re: looking for a way to stuff keystrokes
Date: 26 Feb 1999 12:39:45 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Many thanks! TIOCSTI is just what I was looking for. About the only
>thing I can't figure out how to get to work is Shift-PgUp and
>Shift-PgDn.
>
If I recall correctly, TIOCSTI puts characters in the buffer of the
tty driver. <Shift-PgUp> and the like are processed in the kernel at a
lower level.
By the way, this is the second time in short while I have seen this
question. The previous one was from someone who wanted write a program
for a disabled person.
This makes me wonder if something like the following lines is a good
idea:
(1) Create a device (/dev/rawkey?) or an extra ioctl call, which
allows a user program to put bytes in the keyboard buffer.
(2) This device/ioctl should be capable to put bytes in the buffer
in any/oneof the following formats:
- scancodes
- keycodes
- characters?
NOTE: (1) I haven't looked in while at the keyboard drivers and my
knowledge is a bit rusty. So it could all be nonsense.
I used linux/unix for 8 years, but have no experience in
operating system design etc. So if anyone can tell me
if this is a bad idea go ahead.
If it is a good idea, maybe I can code it up sometime. From
what I remember from the keyboard driver it doesn't seem that
difficult.
Wim Oudshoorn.
P.S.: I wonder how the USB people make the USB-keyboards work, well
I will take a look at that sometime.
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From: paul@bartok (Paul Bristow)
Subject: Re: failed gcc build
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 13:04:11 GMT
: () did you compile in some other directory than egcs-1.1.1 ?
: () if so was it a directory *not* in the egcs-1.1.1 tree ? Say, ...
: /path/to/egcs-1.1.1
: /path/to/egcs-1.1.1.obj
: ... and in egcs-1.1.1.obj (or whatever) call ../egcs-1.1.1/configure ...
: () how about disk space, any problems ?
: xgcc is the "current" compiler, yes, but is the one built during all
: the stages, say you build xgcc with gcc, then compile a xgcc with xgcc
: and that again. The last two at least and all there object files must
: not differ, but okay, that comes later.
: The things above are what I can think of right now, but there might be
: some other snags, sure.
: Hope it helps though,
: Juergen
I followed the instructions for installing egcs to the letter. I was able
to build it on 2.0.36 system using the same method. The 2.0.36 machine
differs only in the kernel installation, everything else is the same.
I've had no choice but to downgrade to 2.0.36. I'll have to stick with
that until the next kernel release and the have another go at it.
N.B. we're using libc.so.6 i.e. libc-2.0.7.so.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Tiseo)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: Making a distro
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 13:49:53 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> Whooops, better start reading what I recommend.. =o))) This was NOT what
> you wanted.. (Just saw a reference as to whether there were a
> Distribution HOWTO.. =o))))
Hey, I made the same mistake! Dived right into the document only
to quickly realize that it was a review of existing distributions. Thanks
anyway!
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