Linux-Development-Sys Digest #691, Volume #6 Sat, 8 May 99 20:14:37 EDT
Contents:
Re: suggestion to scsi-drivers (John Donald)
Re: Linux disk defragmenter (Anthony Ord)
make your first $1 million (Mr Wong)
PCI Hot Plug Support (Joseph Virzi)
HELP : RAS ??? ("Chow Hoi Ka, Eric")
changing a pipe's buffer. How? (Spiros Ioannou)
Re: Kernel Mode Driver Reentrancy ("John Burton")
Re: using interrupt handlers ("John Burton")
Re: Reliable (!) nic for 2.2 kernel? (Linus Torvalds)
Missing png.h in kaffe-1.0b4_src.rpm ("Folkert Meeuw")
Re: pc-speaker driver (Radovan Garabik)
kernel panic error ("RoadRunner")
Re: Q: What can I do when SVGALIB did not support my video card(chipset)??? (Piniek
aka Piotr Ingling)
Re: [ANN] CodeWarrior for Red Hat Linux, GNU ed. Shipping (MW Ron)
Driver for HP400c printer ("news.psghs.edu")
Re: Reliable (!) nic for 2.2 kernel? (Leslie Mikesell)
Re: Glibc rant (Lou Grinzo)
Re: Reliable (!) nic for 2.2 kernel? (Spiros Ioannou)
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From: John Donald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: suggestion to scsi-drivers
Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 18:13:08 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sascha Bohnenkamp wrote:
>
> >In article <7g45rp$hbf$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >Sascha Bohnenkamp wrote:
> >>Hello,
> >>
> >>I am a (little) bit disapointed with the scsi-drivers ... yes I know they
> >>are fast etc. thats ok, but the naming of the drives is a bit dosish ..
> >>
> >>example:
> >> I have a hard drive scsi-id 0 is the boot-drive and gets /dev/sda
> >> I have a cd-rom scsi-id 3 is it and gets /dev/sdb
> >
> >No, /dev/sdb is the second disk and /dev/sr0 is the first SCSI CDROM, see
> >the devices.txt in the Documentation directory.
> ok, than i have a hd with scsi-id 0, and one with scsi-id 2 they
> get /dev/sda and /dev/sdb now I put a new drive with scsi-id 1 into the
> system
> and it get dosish mixed ...
with linux you only have to change the mount points in /etc/fstab and
your
fine again. maybe run rdev if your root partition changes and possibly
reinstall lilo.
everything else works fine after that. i wonder how much trouble you
would
have trying to do that with dos.
it's still a bit stupid though. depending on my zipdrive being on or off
my cdrom drive is either /dev/sdc or /dev/sdd. a 'symbolic link' to the
scsi-vendor information would be a way to solve this, but who's going to
implement that?
You might have a file called /etc/hwtab instead of fstab:
#symbolic mount point vendor description
pioneer /cdrom PIONEER,DRU16X
ibm1 / IBM,DORS2160
cya. john
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anthony Ord)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux disk defragmenter
Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 09:09:00 GMT
On 7 May 1999 01:32:37 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Peter Samuelson) wrote:
>[Anthony Ord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> on the Linux IDE driver's (vapor) bidirectional elevator algorithm]
>> The GPL doesn't prevent me from being too crap to do it...
>
>It does prevent you (not actually the GPL but the "no warranty" part
>that usually comes with) from complaining to anyone else if you can't
>or won't do it, though. (:
I'm not complaining, I'm asking if anyone has done it. The
arguments for and against bi-directional seeking remind me a
lot of the arguments for and against Darwin's theory of
Evolution (in essence: explains lots of things, but has
holes).
A simple demonstration is worth a thousand Usenet
messages...
Regards
Anthony
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From: Joseph Virzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: PCI Hot Plug Support
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 08:08:54 +0100
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps
From: Joseph Virzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: PCI hot plug support
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Sender: Joseph Virzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: Jim Puthukattukaran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 08:07:06 +0100
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I share the same interests as you. Judging from what I've seen on the
news groups,
many people are interested but there is no formal group working on PCI
Hot Plug
within Linux.
It may be up to us to start something here, if you are interested.
FYI, my hardware designs are based around the DEC 21554 PCI Hot
Pluggable Bridge.
The ultimate platform is compactPCI, though I'm currently using regular
PCI.
My naive approach has been to use pcibios_write_config_dword &
read_config_dword to
initialize the devices myself, according to an internal table. There is,
however,
provisions for a hot plug register that are also accessible.
PLx also makes a hot swappable PCI interface chip. What are you using?
Let me know.
-Joe
Jim Puthukattukaran wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'm looking for person(s)/group(s) that are interested in providing
PCI HotPlug
> support for Linux. I am very much interested and would like with
other's of like
> mind.
>
> regards,
> Jim
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From: "Chow Hoi Ka, Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.announce
Subject: HELP : RAS ???
Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 00:35:23 +0800
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello,
Is it possible to use Linux for a Dialup Server ?
Such as the Windows NT's RAS .
So, the remote clients can dialup to the Linux through the modem with
different platform.
Best regards,
Eric
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From: Spiros Ioannou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: changing a pipe's buffer. How?
Date: 8 May 1999 19:24:35 GMT
Hello,
I'm trying to change the buffer supplied by the pipe(). The usual
fcntl method for file descriptors doesn't seem to work. Is this tunable
or not?
Thanks,
Spiros
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From: "John Burton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Kernel Mode Driver Reentrancy
Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 12:52:43 +0100
Patrick L. McGuire wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>This is probably the most basic question.
>
>Aside from possible hardware interrupts, is it safe to assume that while
>I am in the kernel driver, that another process will not call the driver
>again?
As long as you don't explicitly make a call which can reschedule the
processes your kernel function will run exclusivly.
>That is, do I know that I have exclusive access to the hardware that I
>am controlling, once I am in my kernel mode driver?
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From: "John Burton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: using interrupt handlers
Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 13:00:22 +0100
TimL wrote in message <7yoX2.547$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>I was wondering if anyone has had experience with interrupt handlers. I
>have a PCI device that can generate an IRQ. I have written a simple
handler
>for this within my driver/module, but for my application, I need the user
>application to be notified when an interrupt has taken place.
>
>What is the best method to have the driver/module inform the user
>application that an interrupt has taken place? Can I write something like
a
>daemon, or would using threads be better? Or is there something easier?
The application could do a "read" on your device and the read will only
complete when the interrupt occurs. I presume you have some data to
return when the interrupt occurs. If not I guess you could always return
a byte or something. You could implement select as well so that you can
wait for something to happen on more than one device.
If you need notification in a more time critical way I'd suggest sending
a signal to the user process. A non blocking read can be set up this
way.
>
>In my application, I have a function that handles the interrupt request,
>however, I need to somehow call that function from my driver/module when an
>interrupt occurs.
>
>Thanks for any assistance,
>TL
>
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Linus Torvalds)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Reliable (!) nic for 2.2 kernel?
Date: 8 May 1999 20:10:35 GMT
In article <0EXY2.11020$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
bryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>my tulip card is totally unreliable. I can bring it down with an ftp
>xfer (local lan) at 10 or 100, in a minute or less. network hangs and
>will NOT be reset by software.
I would recommend the intel eepro100, although I also wonder whether you
just have a flaky tulip card, because tulip would have been my second
suggestion. There's a lot of different tulip-based cards out there..
A 3c509 should be fine too, although with SMP it needs one of the
current v2.2 pre-patches to be stable in some configurations (thanks to
Andrea for figuring out why).
Linus
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From: "Folkert Meeuw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Missing png.h in kaffe-1.0b4_src.rpm
Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 22:11:48 +0200
Reply-To: "Folkert Meeuw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Hi Dear Friendly Readers,
Sorry but it is burning, why is declared png.h local in kaffe-1.0b4 in modul
/kaffe-1.0b4/libraries/clib/awt/X/impng.c
when it doesn't exists in the named directory ? And what should the typedef
struct{}StringSource in same module
when it could be declared in png.h. This is a badly effect on compilation
with make/gmake it occurs an error
an compilation failed.
MfG Folkert Meeuw
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Radovan Garabik)
Subject: Re: pc-speaker driver
Date: 8 May 1999 12:19:01 GMT
Moritz Franosch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:> I would like to use the PC-speaker in lieu of
:> a sound card, but the major option in this area,
:> a module called pcsnd, does not want to compile
:> on my system. (It's asking for linux/pcsnd.h,
:> which neither 2.0.35 nor 2.2.6 kernels provide.)
: A kernel patch is needed.
: Download site is
: http://www.imladris.demon.co.uk/pcsp/
: This patch should generate '/usr/src/linux/include/linux/pcsnd.h'
: among a lot of other things.
: After some problems I got the patched kernel to compile, but the
: program pcsel in the pcsnd-kit reported
: /dev/pcsp: Operation not supported by device
: The module loaded with a message, however, and there was no error
: message in /var/log/messages or /var/log/warn.
: If anyone knows solutions, please tell me.
forget pcsel... is was needed for the old version of pcsnd
the new version emulates a sound card, you just do modprobe pcsnd
and there you go... Everything works for me (wel, /dev/audio seems to
be a bit buggy... but mp3 play nice :-))
: Moritz
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From: "RoadRunner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: kernel panic error
Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 11:55:35 -0400
Here's the error message I am getting kernel panic: VSF: unable to mount
root fs on 03:02. I boot up my system with a floppy disk. What can I do to
correct this problem
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Piniek aka Piotr Ingling)
Subject: Re: Q: What can I do when SVGALIB did not support my video card(chipset)???
Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 08:49:59 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dnia Sun, 02 May 1999 07:44:32 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (ei)
napisa�(a):
>hi~~~
>could anyone please tell me what i can do when SVGALIB not support my
>Millennium II & G200 ?
>Is there any solution to use graphics for console mode on liunx or
>unix?
Maybe a new version of svgalib? I have a Matrox Mystique and svgalib since
version 1.4 have been working in VESA modes.
Piotr Ingling
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (MW Ron)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.unix.programmer
Subject: Re: [ANN] CodeWarrior for Red Hat Linux, GNU ed. Shipping
Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 14:46:01 -0400
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Can you comment about the use of an intermediate storage layer in the IDE
>please. I think I remember something about that in the info. I'm not
>sure I'm "OK" with the intermediate layer. Thanks.
Metrowerks has made available on our web site several "whitepapers" and I
believe that the best bet would be for you to get these,
I'm thinking the ones yu might be interested in are
CodeWarrior's Architectural Advantage
Metrowerks' Optimizing Compiler Architecture
Porting GNU C Programs to Metrowerks CodeWarrior C Compiler
http://www.metrowerks.com/whitepapers/
I think this will have the information that you wish to know about.
Ron
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"Software at Work" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "news.psghs.edu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Driver for HP400c printer
Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 12:53:47 -0400
Help,
need to get my HP400 DeskJet to print. The Standard Linux printsystem
manager did not work.
New to all this.....
Please email:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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PSGWV Medical Center
Radiology/Oncology Eng
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leslie Mikesell)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Reliable (!) nic for 2.2 kernel?
Date: 8 May 1999 15:57:35 -0500
In article <0EXY2.11020$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
bryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>my tulip card is totally unreliable. I can bring it down with an ftp
>xfer (local lan) at 10 or 100, in a minute or less. network hangs and
>will NOT be reset by software.
>
>with a T1 download, it can hang the network in a few hours. this sucks ;-(
>
>has anyone done any load testing on the 2.2 kernel and found a
>RELIABLE nic card they could recommend? one that stays up under close
>to full load on a local 10/100 lan?
>
>(btw, I now have several dec tulip cards for sale. I refuse to use
>them in 2.2 kernel boxes I have here - sigh.)
Hmmm, mine (an early Linksys with a real Dec chip) seems to be working:
cat /proc/net/dev
Inter-| Receive | Transmit
face |bytes packets errs drop fifo frame compressed multicast|bytes packets
errs drop fifo colls carrier compressed
lo:585407792 2204419 0 0 0 0 0 0 585407792 2204419
0 0 0 0 0 0
eth0:3304241413 76566475 0 0 0 0 0 0 3709840852
42453440 13 0 2 0 11 0
I have several of these, some Intel 10/100 pros, and some of the 3Coms that
Dell builds into their motherboards. I have never had any problems
with the Intels. The only problem with the others have been occasional
mis-negotiations of 10/100 or half/full duplex with certain hubs or
switches. I've never seen a problem where the card works correctly
for a while and then fails. If you have this with more than one card
I would suspect some other problem. Try connecting to a different hub
or if you are using a switch lock it in full duplex, 100M for your
port. You might also have cable problems that only show up under
certain conditions. 100M equipment can be more sensitive to this
than the 10M versions, even when running at 10M. Be sure everything
is cat 5.
Les Mikesell
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lou Grinzo)
Subject: Re: Glibc rant
Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 17:00:39 -0400
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
says...
[trim]
> >
> > As long as the Linux community takes this view--problems can
> > be solved by recompiling, that's the benefit of getting the
> > source, etc., the mainstream user community will forever be
> > a mirage on the horizon.
>
>
> Umm... not to be impertinent here, but since when does Joe User even
> _know_ what libc is, forget about upgrading it..? Joe User buys a
> distro, plain and simple, and maybe compiles a few apps of his own... he
> does not upgrade libc.
I was addressing the case of someone getting glibc 2.1 with a new
distro release (like RH 6.0), without even realizing it. I agree
that Joe User doesn't know about lib's which is exactly the problem.
J User expects things to work, not present an opportunity to
become familiar with his OS's DNA.
(I think we're agreeing with each other here, and just taking a lot
of words to do it. <g>)
[trim]
Which reminds me--I'm currently reviewing the book "Open Sources: Voices
from the Open Source Revolution" (O'Reilly) for Dr. Dobb's Journal.
It's an excellent book and highly recommended, with one chapter each
written by all the well-known names of the OS movement. In Eric S.
Raymond's chapter, he says (page 219):
"We half-joke about "world domination," but the only way we will get
there is by _serving_ the world. That means J. Random End-User and his
Aunt Tillie; and _that_ means learning how to think about what we do in
a fundamentally new way, and ruthlessly reducing the user-visible
complexity of the default environment to an absolute minimum."
[The italics are in the original.]
I couldn't agree more. The glibc library situation and this business of
RH using their own pump program instead of dhcpd and not working with
cable modems right out of the box, are prime examples of things the Linux
community (both developers and distributors) must learn how to prevent.
If not, then there are two possibilities: Linux never makes a significant
impact on the desktop, or someone like IBM comes along and "adopts"
Linux and produces a mainstream-friendly version that the current
Linux community won't like. Caldera is already working hard on that
front, and Corel will have their own Debian/KDE-based distro later this
year.
IMO, Linux will become a force on the desktop. The only real questions
left are: when will it happen, who will make it happen, and how big a
part will the current community play in the effort?
Lou
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From: Spiros Ioannou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Reliable (!) nic for 2.2 kernel?
Date: 8 May 1999 19:34:48 GMT
In comp.os.linux.development.system bryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: my tulip card is totally unreliable. I can bring it down with an ftp
: has anyone done any load testing on the 2.2 kernel and found a
: RELIABLE nic card they could recommend? one that stays up under close
: to full load on a local 10/100 lan?
With the 3c509 I get 8.5 Mbytes/sec with wget from 100Mbit switched ethernet
lan. It has never crashed, the machine is a web/ftp server and completely
reliable.
(With the same card I get 3.5MB/sec max with W98) ;-)
-Spiros
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