Linux-Development-Sys Digest #717, Volume #6     Sun, 16 May 99 14:13:59 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Is Linux Y2K compliant? ("Nevyn")
  Re: 2.2.8 - Evil behavior (bryan)
  Re: NCR53875, SMP, 2.2.x: comiles, does not boot (Bill Anderson)
  Re: Hilfe wie kriege ich meine Matrox-G100 AGP einegebunden ? (Igor Zlatkovic)
  POSIX.1b timers ("Vladimir G. Stanishev")
  Re: umount root file system (Robert Nichols)
  Re: /dev/hda1 has reached maximal mount count, check forced ("Ishikawa,Chiaki,remove 
No Spam from the address")
  ip multicast problem (ioctl SIOCGETRPF) in kernel 2.2.8 (Kaifu Wu)
  Re: Wie kann ich eine Minix Partition mounten? (M. Buchenrieder)
  Re: -= Environment variables using bash =- (Mark Tranchant)
  POSIX.1b message queues ("Vladimir G. Stanishev")
  PCI Hot Plug Support (Joseph Virzi)
  Re: 2.2.8 - Evil behavior (Rodger Donaldson)
  Re: kernel past 2.2.5 failing to boot (Jonathan Brown)
  Re: Wie kann ich eine Minix Partition mounten? (Martin Wilhelm)
  How do I check header, replace it and forward it using .procmailrc ? (Tomer Saar)
  Linux bootsect.S question (selious)
  Re: ip multicast problem (ioctl SIOCGETRPF) in kernel 2.2.8 (Andi Kleen)
  Microsecond resolution timer? (Rob)
  Curious :: ppp-2.3.8 works once with Unix98 pty's (Juergen Heinzl)
  Re: Hostile Takeover of Linux (Nix)
  Re: kernel past 2.2.5 failing to boot ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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From: "Nevyn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is Linux Y2K compliant?
Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 22:50:15 +0100


<d s f o x @ c o g s c i . u c s d . e d u (David Fox)> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher B. Browne) writes:

> many cards and carry/store twice as many boxes.
dont u love the way carry comes b4 store?



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From: bryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 2.2.8 - Evil behavior
Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 23:12:58 GMT

G. Sumner Hayes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: bryan wrote:
: > its a logitech wheel mouse (retail, not oem).  its also a USB mouse
: > with a built in (real) ps2 adapter.  it worked perfectly with 2.2.5
: > and .6 and others just not .7

: Hmm.  There are some keyboard changes in the 2.2.7 patch, and the ps2
: mouse driver is tightly coupled with the kbd drivers.  In particular,
: some of the changes to linux/drivers/char/pc_keyb.c remove error
: checking.  I'd try restoring those checks and seeing if it works.

: If you're not comfortable doing that, try running 2.2.6 but
: "#define KBD_REPORT_ERR" at the top of pc_keyb.c and see if you get any 
: messages saying "Keyboard buffer overflow" or "Keyboard error" on 
: console or in your log files.

: Hope this helps.

I'll try it!  if I've found a bug and, as such, made the kernel even
cleaner, then its worth the effort ;-)

-- 
Bryan

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From: Bill Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: NCR53875, SMP, 2.2.x: comiles, does not boot
Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 12:03:46 -0600

Bill Anderson wrote:
> 

FWIW, I only sent one copy (linux-kernel list, and here). Apparently
uswaste did some gatewaying.

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From: Igor Zlatkovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Hilfe wie kriege ich meine Matrox-G100 AGP einegebunden ?
Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 12:41:12 +0000

Versuch's mal bei ftp://contrib.redhat.com. Da findest du XFree86 3.3.3.
Es sind viele rpm's, aber du brauchst nicht alle. Sei aber bereit eine
Stunde download zu ertragen.

"J�rg Gro�er" wrote:

> Ich habe ein Problem, ich besitze Red Hat 5.2 Linux und m�chte meine
> Grafikkarte MGA-100G  einbinden leider habe ich kein Linuxtreiber
> gefunden ich hoffe auf HILFE.
>
> besten dank schon mal

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From: "Vladimir G. Stanishev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: POSIX.1b timers
Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 21:28:43 -0400

hello.

I am still wrinting that paper on linux, so here is that next question.
It looks like the POSIX.1b timer and clock functions are not implemented
in linux yet. I've read that they provide more clocks better resolution
etc, but I can't know what this really means.  Would anyone consider teh
lack of the posix.1b interface to be a _major_ drawback in  a system?
can you think of an application that would absolutely need to make use
of them?  I am aware of the differences between the berkley timers and
those defined by posix4 but if anyone has had experience using them and
cares to share some thoughts its really appreciated.  Thanx.

Vladimir.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Nichols)
Subject: Re: umount root file system
Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 14:56:03 GMT

In article <7hdsdo$mnd$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
new.ccu.edu.tw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:    I'm wondering when when umounting root file system of Linux,
:    it must be remount READO ONLY. Is there any security issue of
:    what ??

If you want to halt the system just run "shutdown -h" and do it.  There
is absolutely no reason to leave the kernel running with no root file
system since as soon as you did that the system would be dead and
unrecoverable without rebooting.

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From: "Ishikawa,Chiaki,remove No Spam from the 
address"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: /dev/hda1 has reached maximal mount count, check forced
Date: 10 May 1999 21:27:12 +0900


> I know of no other UNIX doing this. 

If I recall correctly, Digtal UNIX on MIPS platform such as ds5200
did this.

I think the trigger for fsck was
 - either the max count reached, or
 - some pre-determined elapsed time since last fsck was reached.

But it was 5 or 6 years ago that I used the machine and so my memory
is hazy.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kaifu Wu)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: ip multicast problem (ioctl SIOCGETRPF) in kernel 2.2.8
Date: 15 May 1999 22:13:05 -0700


I have been trying to setup bunch of linux systems running pimd
(http://netweb.usc.edu/pim/).  I have enabled multicast routing
and PIM, and though it compiled fine under all my systems running
2.2.8, it crashed when making a call to ioctl:

21:44:18.807 ioctl SIOCGETRPF k_req_incoming: Invalid argument

and the offending code:

if (ioctl(udp_socket, SIOCGETRPF, (char *) rpfcinfo) < 0){
        log(LOG_ERR, errno, "ioctl SIOCGETRPF k_req_incoming");
        return(FALSE);
    }

with the data structures:

struct rpfctl *rpfcinfo;

struct rpfctl {
    struct in_addr source; /* the source for which we want iif and rpfnbr */
    struct in_addr rpfneighbor;/* next hop towards the source */
    vifi_t iif; /* the incoming interface to reach the next hop */
};

/usr/src/linux/include/linux/mroute.h:
typedef unsigned short vifi_t;

/usr/src/linux/include/linux/in.h:
/* Internet address. */
struct in_addr {
        __u32   s_addr;
};


I have yet discuss this with the authors of pimd, but now it looks like
a linux-specific problem.  ioctl doesn't seem to like either SIOCGETRPF
or rpfcinfo, but that's all I can tell so far.

Any help would be greatly appreciated,
Kaifu

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Crossposted-To: de.comp.os.unix.linux.misc
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (M. Buchenrieder)
Subject: Re: Wie kann ich eine Minix Partition mounten?
Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 05:59:20 GMT

[Newsgroups: line edited, F'Up set]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (root) writes:

a) Don't work as "root" .

>Hallo Alle!

b) Wrong newsgroup
c) Wrong hierarchy. Use de.comp.os.unix.linux.* for your questions.

>Ich habe auf hda3 Minix installiert. Unter Linux probiere ich diese
>Partition mit mount /dev/hda3 -t minix /minix zu mounten, aber ich
>bekomme eine Fehlermeldung, dass es keinen Superblock auf dieser
>Partition gibt.

Does the directory /minix exist at all ?
Does your kernel support the Minix filesystem ?
And the syntax should be

mount -t minix /dev/hda3 /minix 

(at least, that's what "man mount" says) .


Michael
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From: Mark Tranchant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: -= Environment variables using bash =-
Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 13:36:34 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

man bash (although I feel your pain!)

use: export VARIABLE="variable value"

Mark

JB wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> When I set an environment variable within bash, it doesn't remain.
> How can I do ?
> 
> Dave

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From: "Vladimir G. Stanishev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: POSIX.1b message queues
Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 03:34:10 -0400

the posix.1b message queues are not implemented but the two limits
_POSIX_MQ_PRIO_MAX and _POSIX_MQ_OPEN_MAX are defined in
<bits/posix1_lim.h> (included by <limits.h>).  Are they used for
anything? also does anyone know if there is work on implementing the
POSIX.1b interface to message queues for linux (glibc)?
Thanx.

Vladimir


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From: Joseph Virzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: PCI Hot Plug Support
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 08:08:54 +0100 
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps

From: Joseph Virzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: PCI hot plug support
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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I share the same interests as you. Judging from what I've seen on the
news groups,
many people are interested but there is no formal group working on PCI
Hot Plug
within Linux.

It may be up to us to start something here, if you are interested.

FYI, my hardware designs are based around the DEC 21554 PCI Hot
Pluggable Bridge.
The ultimate platform is compactPCI, though I'm currently using regular
PCI.

My naive approach has been to use pcibios_write_config_dword &
read_config_dword to
initialize the devices myself, according to an internal table. There is,
however,
provisions for a hot plug register that are also accessible.

PLx also makes a hot swappable PCI interface chip. What are you using?

Let me know.

-Joe

Jim Puthukattukaran wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I'm looking for person(s)/group(s) that are interested in providing
PCI HotPlug
> support for Linux. I am very much interested and would like with
other's of like
> mind.
>
> regards,
> Jim





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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rodger Donaldson)
Subject: Re: 2.2.8 - Evil behavior
Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 15:29:11 +1159
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Sat, 15 May 1999 14:19:29 GMT, bryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Rodger Donaldson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>: On Fri, 14 May 1999 23:12:37 GMT, bryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>: >2.2.7 is a loser on my system.  the ps2 mouse is goofed up - when I
>: >startx, the video hangs and even gpm causes some kind of hang.
>: >
>: >drove me NUTS until I went back to 2.2.5 or so and the problem went away.
>
>: You're lucky.  None of the 2.2.x kernels I've tried work on one of my UMC
>: 486 PCI motherboards - the mouse fails on all of them.  2.0.x works
>: perfectly.
>
>its ps/2, also?   weird.  wonder what's different...

I suspect it's an artifact of the unification of the PS/2 keyboard and mouse
drivers; the keyboard is AT-style, and the mouse is PS/2 style.  I think
I'll drop back to a 2.1.x before unification and see what happens.

Or, of course, being a UMC chipset, it's just plain broke.

-- 
Rodger Donaldson                [EMAIL PROTECTED]
La Cicciolina [...] Electing her was an interesting contrast to the
situation in the UK: In Italy they elect a representative from the sex
industry.  In the UK, they elect their clients. -- Peter Gutmann

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From: Jonathan Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: kernel past 2.2.5 failing to boot
Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 00:18:48 -0700

Me too.  Kernel 2.2.8 fails to boot on my dual PPro system.
When it does the partition check I see:

    Partition check:
     sda: sda1 sda2
     hda:

and it stops there.  Normally it would continue with "hda1 hda2
hda3 hda4".  This problem also happens with 2.2.9.  2.2.7 and
earlier kernels work fine for me.

 - Jonathan -

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> I've been running Alan Cox's patched 2.2.5 kernel for some weeks now and
> decided to build kernel 2.2.9.  The build was uneventful.  However, the
> kernel will not boot on my system.  Right after identifying the IDE
> devices, the system stops.
> 
> My main drive subsystem is SCSI (DPT 2044W) and only the primary IDE
> controller is enabled.  DPT BIOS is set to boot first.  My system is SMP
> and has all required updates.  I also tried kernel 2.2.8 and had the
> same problem so it must have been some change between 2.2.5 and 2.2.8
> that caused this.

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From: Martin Wilhelm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Wie kann ich eine Minix Partition mounten?
Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 12:50:13 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

root wrote:
> 
> Hallo Alle!
> Ich habe auf hda3 Minix installiert. Unter Linux probiere ich diese
> Partition mit mount /dev/hda3 -t minix /minix zu mounten, aber ich
> bekomme eine Fehlermeldung, dass es keinen Superblock auf dieser
> Partition gibt.
> 
> Was kann ich tun?

mount -t minix /dev/hda3 /minix
Optional kannst Du auch -t weglassen ;).

Martin

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From: Tomer Saar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.mail.misc,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: How do I check header, replace it and forward it using .procmailrc ?
Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 15:44:01 +0200

I wish to check every mail I receive for the following alroritm:

if (To == "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" )
then {
    add "Misc" field and write orginal "To" to it ;         /* optional
line */
    write "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" in "To" ;
    forward message to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without saving) ;
}

The operating system is Solaris 2.6


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From: selious <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux bootsect.S question
Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 15:11:39 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi,

first of all, when will it be rewritten to NASM syntax ?? Anyway, my
real question is:

At a certain point, int 1E is redirected to a modified copy of 12 bytes
addressed by BIOS default int 1E.

- Is this table used for both floppy and harddisk devices, or is it only
valid for floppy access ??

Maybe I'm confused, cause the Setup is loaded from drive 0 ?? This has
to be the floppy, right ??

What code is used to boot from the harddisk ??

Can anyone please explain this ?? I'm willing to investigate LILO too !!

Selious




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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: ip multicast problem (ioctl SIOCGETRPF) in kernel 2.2.8
From: Andi Kleen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 16 May 1999 16:16:15 +0200

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kaifu Wu) writes:

> I have been trying to setup bunch of linux systems running pimd
> (http://netweb.usc.edu/pim/).  I have enabled multicast routing
> and PIM, and though it compiled fine under all my systems running
> 2.2.8, it crashed when making a call to ioctl:
> 
> 21:44:18.807 ioctl SIOCGETRPF k_req_incoming: Invalid argument

[...]

See the pimd patches in ftp.inr.ac.ru:/ip-routing/pim/


-Andi

-- 
This is like TV. I don't like TV.

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From: Rob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Microsecond resolution timer?
Date: 16 May 1999 14:04:46 GMT

I'm writing a library designed to talk to some (non-PC) hardware that
I have via the parallel port. Some of the timing is critical however.
What I really need is a microsecond resolution timer, so I can get
pauses of 20us. I read somewhere that doing something like
select(0, 0, 0, 0, *time) can't pause for shorter than 100ms (100000us),
which is obviously far too long for my needs. Is there a way to get this
sort of timing resolution under Linux? And if there is no 'proper' way
to do it, will anything break if I access the system timer hardware at
0x40-0x5f?

Rob.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Juergen Heinzl)
Subject: Curious :: ppp-2.3.8 works once with Unix98 pty's
Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 14:24:56 GMT

Hello,

just asking how that could even be ... I am using Unix98 pseudo tty�s only
and installed ppp-2.3.8 yesterday. Giving it a try it worked, so great,
they seemed to have taken care of that. Interesting enough though today
it refused to work, after a reboot, and after a look into the source ... sure,
quite fine.

No, no old style device files anymore in /dev and no, it definitely was
2.3.8 yesterday too. I saved the original binaries and overwrote them ...
May 16 01:11:19 monocerus pppd[5525]: pppd 2.3.8 started by juergen, uid 300
... and this must not have worked.

Some minor tweaking of pppd and all is fine, so no problems. Still somewhat
puzzled what even could have gone on ... my magic touch aside, that is 8)

Cheers,
Juergen

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From: Nix <$}xinix{[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Hostile Takeover of Linux
Date: 16 May 1999 00:46:40 +0100

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne) writes:

> Linus, Alan Cox, and many others, don't need to care about
> "certification."  Linus can obviously put on his resume the line:
>   "Creator of the Linux operating system, used by millions of people."

Have you seen Bjarne Stroustrup's web page?

He's got something *very* similar to that on there. Should he ever leave
Bell Labs, he'd have equally little trouble getting a job. :)

-- 
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Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 12:59:16 -0400
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: kernel past 2.2.5 failing to boot

Jonathan Brown wrote:

> Me too.  Kernel 2.2.8 fails to boot on my dual PPro system.
> When it does the partition check I see:
>
>     Partition check:
>      sda: sda1 sda2
>      hda:
>
> and it stops there.  Normally it would continue with "hda1 hda2
> hda3 hda4".  This problem also happens with 2.2.9.  2.2.7 and
> earlier kernels work fine for me.

I don't get the sda partition check.  I get to the line lising device ide0,
IRQ 14, and then it halts.


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