Linux-Development-Sys Digest #740, Volume #6 Sun, 23 May 99 16:14:04 EDT
Contents:
Kernel Event Notification Service (George MacDonald)
Re: never reboot to upgrade ? (George MacDonald)
How can I use PCI board memory? (=?iso-8859-1?Q?=B1=E8=C7=FC=BC=AE?=)
Linux VM (Adnan Agbaria)
COL 2.2 Modem ("David Pulliam")
Workgroup (Wolfman)
Workgroup (Wolfman)
bloody HaX0R wannabes (Was Re: Workgroup) (Alexander Viro)
videoconferencing on Linux ("�� �� ��")
Re: bloody HaX0R wannabes (Was Re: Workgroup) (Nix)
Re: Workgroup (Nix)
Re: Linux-2.2.8, 2.2.9 and update - What's the story? (Nix)
Re: best distribution (Glen Turner)
Re: Linux VM (Arun Sharma)
unresolved symbol: request_module (Katrina Illari)
File max size (Sagi)
New to Linux (Robert E. Hilson)
Re: Linux-2.2.8, 2.2.9 and update - What's the story? (Juergen Heinzl)
Re: Linux-2.2.8, 2.2.9 and update - What's the story? (Nix)
Help with translation file of RedHat (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Fr=E9d=E9ric?= FAUCOUNEAU)
Re: File max size ("Stefan Monnier "
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)
Re: File max size (Frank Sweetser)
$$$FORM HANDLER DESIGN BRIEF$$$
Re: Linux-2.2.8, 2.2.9 and update - What's the story? (Juergen Heinzl)
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From: George MacDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Kernel Event Notification Service
Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 07:39:44 GMT
Has anyone ever put some thought to a generlized kernel event notifcation
service. In particular I'm interested in getting process start/stop
change of state messages, which I currently get by polling /proc.
It would be nice not to have to poll, but to instead open a
/proc/kernel/eventService file and interact with it to
obtain the events of interest. I'm thinking one could write
into the file the events of interest, then simply read on
the fd for the events.
Perhaps one would have to be root, or setuid root to get
access to certain events. It would seem that a simple protocol
to the kernel would suffice in specifying what events are of
interest, either a two level mime like key pair or an object
path such as /process/state/anyChange or /process/state/changeToRun.
Such a mechanism could also be used for notifcation on any kernel
"object", i.e. memory, processors, devices ...
--
We stand on the shoulders of those giants who coded before.
Build a good layer, stand strong, and prepare for the next wave.
Guide those who come after you, give them your shoulder, lend them your code.
Code well and live! - [EMAIL PROTECTED] (7th Coding Battalion)
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From: George MacDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: never reboot to upgrade ?
Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 07:19:45 GMT
Ty! Boyack wrote:
>
> Mike Rushford wrote:
> >
> > I have enjoyed the stability of Linux for years and have only had to
> > shut down my Linux boxes to upgrade the next Kernel version.
> >
> > Is there a way of building a kernel so that it takes the place of a
> > currently running one without ever shutting down?
>
> Might be somthing we'll have to do to "keep-up-with-the-jones'"
>
> Sun has said that by Solaris 9 you will be able to do live
> version upgrades. We'll have to see if they mean live in
> the same sense that we are talking about, but so far it
> sounds like it.
>From Freshmeat
David Goodlad - March 15th 1999, 07:36 EST
VMWare allows you to run 'virtual machines' inside Linux. It is not an emulator. It
provides a virtual computer within Linux which
can boot whichever OS you
decide to put on the filesystem image that is used as a harddrive. It will run DOS
6.22, Win 3.1, Win95, Win98, WinNT 4, Windows
2000 beta, Linux (many
flavours), and more. The only main requirement is a P-II 266 or better, along with
lots of ram (64 Mb minimum, 128 Mb recommended).
--
We stand on the shoulders of those giants who coded before.
Build a good layer, stand strong, and prepare for the next wave.
Guide those who come after you, give them your shoulder, lend them your code.
Code well and live! - [EMAIL PROTECTED] (7th Coding Battalion)
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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=B1=E8=C7=FC=BC=AE?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How can I use PCI board memory?
Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 07:26:41 GMT
I got memory of PCI board by :
pcibios_read_config_dword(pci_bus, pci_device_fn, PCI_BASE_ADDRESS_0,
&pci_memaddr);
in device driver.
Then, I want to read and write "pci_memaddr". How can I access that
memory area within
device driver?
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From: Adnan Agbaria <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux VM
Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 11:24:29 +0300
Hi,
Typically the partition of Linux virtual memory is based on major areas
with a specific
addresses in a process space. For instance, in the file
/proc/<procID>/maps we can find the
VM boundaries of these areas, e.g.
08048000-08085000 r-xp 00000000 03:06 2465 (for text area)
08085000-08089000 rw-p 0003c000 03:06 (for data area)
bfff6000-c0000000 rwxp ffff7000 00:00 0 (for stack area)
My question is which area the following addresses 400xxxxx-400xxxxx are
indicated ?
--
Regards,
Adnan
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From: "David Pulliam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: COL 2.2 Modem
Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 02:12:47 -0500
I am having trouble getting COL 2.2 to activate my modem and connect to my
ISP. I set up everything else just fine(i.e. dns, phone #,
username/password). It's in the device area that I'm having the problem.
The only setting that respont are ttyS1 and cua1, but when I try and
connect, they both say "Initializing Modem", (I never do here the modem
click like it should), then it says and stops at "setting modem sound".
It seems like linux can't find my modem. How do I fix this.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wolfman)
Subject: Workgroup
Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 12:15:29 +0200
Recently I have created a homepage for linux development and now I still
need a few visitors to join the projects and give me feedback! Please
come to my small but nice page!
Have a short look at my sponsors to keep my services free!!!
--
Visit my Homepage @ http://Linux.XPage.nu
and have a short lock at my sponsors!!!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wolfman)
Subject: Workgroup
Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 13:08:28 +0200
Recently I have created a homepage for linux development and now I still
need a few visitors to join the projects and give me feedback! Please
come to my small but nice page!
Have a short look at my sponsors to keep my services free!!!
--
Visit my Homepage @ http://Linux.XPage.nu
and have a short lock at my sponsors!!!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alexander Viro)
Subject: bloody HaX0R wannabes (Was Re: Workgroup)
Date: 23 May 1999 07:36:58 -0400
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Wolfman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Recently I have created a homepage for linux development and now I still
>
>need a few visitors to join the projects and give me feedback! Please
>come to my small but nice page!
>Have a short look at my sponsors to keep my services free!!!
And here's the earlier posting from our spamming quadruped friend:
=================================================================
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wolfman)
Subject: Total examination!!!
Date: 19 May 1999 00:00:00 GMT
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
X-Complaints-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Trace: news05.btx.dtag.de 927127561 21595 320053872376-0001 990519 15:26:01
Mime-Version: 1.0
Newsgroups: alt.hacking
Where can i get a linux program that says me everything about the host,
im connected with! Such as IP adress and other many joking things!!!
==================================================================
Aren't USENET archives wonderful?
Free clue, luser: anything spoken on USENET remains forever.
HTH. HAND. FOAD.
*PLONK*
--
"You're one of those condescending Unix computer users!"
"Here's a nickel, kid. Get yourself a better computer" - Dilbert.
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From: "�� �� ��" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: videoconferencing on Linux
Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 23:14:44 +0900
I want videoconferencing on Linux.
But I don't know which software and camera I must use.
Please send your comment.
Thank you
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From: Nix <$}xinix{[email protected]>
Subject: Re: bloody HaX0R wannabes (Was Re: Workgroup)
Date: 23 May 1999 14:59:24 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alexander Viro) writes:
[snip]
Bloody hell, this was an incompetent cracking attempt by a wannabe
script kiddie, rather than a moron would-be bazaar developer?
Good grief.
> Aren't USENET archives wonderful?
Indeed they are.
> *PLONK*
I've just enhanced my plonking of good old wolfman to an eternal one
rather than my usual decaying 2-month job. I think this merits that.
--
`As promised, here's the patch to do this. Not only is it good (it
compiles), but it is perfect (it boots). Up 9 minutes so far without
problems.' --- Richard Gooch on linux-kernel
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From: Nix <$}xinix{[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Workgroup
Date: 23 May 1999 13:00:43 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wolfman) writes:
> Recently I have created a homepage for linux development and now I still
> need a few visitors to join the projects and give me feedback! Please
> come to my small but nice page!
> Have a short look at my sponsors to keep my services free!!!
Vertical spamming idiot.
*plonk*
(Take note: This is *not* how you start a bazaar project.
This is the antithesis thereof. Good grief.)
--
`As promised, here's the patch to do this. Not only is it good (it
compiles), but it is perfect (it boots). Up 9 minutes so far without
problems.' --- Richard Gooch on linux-kernel
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From: Nix <$}xinix{[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Linux-2.2.8, 2.2.9 and update - What's the story?
Date: 23 May 1999 13:01:23 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Juergen Heinzl) writes:
> I did some late night digging regarding the 2.2.8 problem and IIRC yes,
> there even was a patch so updated would not be necessary at all anymore.
... and it turned out to have problems so was removed from 2.2.9.
update is still needed.
(It may be gone from the development kernels when Zack gets back from
holidays so can debug it...)
--
`As promised, here's the patch to do this. Not only is it good (it
compiles), but it is perfect (it boots). Up 9 minutes so far without
problems.' --- Richard Gooch on linux-kernel
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Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 16:04:56 +0000
From: Glen Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: best distribution
All we need is MD5 checksums and we'll be well on the way
to rewriting tripwire :-)
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Subject: Re: Linux VM
From: Arun Sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 16:19:06 GMT
Adnan Agbaria <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> My question is which area the following addresses 400xxxxx-400xxxxx are
> indicated ?
Typically shared libraries.
-Arun
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Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 12:27:55 -0400
From: Katrina Illari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: unresolved symbol: request_module
I resently rebuilt the kernel (2.2.8). The first time through, I used
make config, but I did not realize that kmod replaced kerneld (kerneld
would not work anymore) completely and answered no to the option:
CONFIG_KMOD.
Later I decided that I wanted to use kmod, so I ran make xconfig and
answered 'Y' to CONFIG_KMOD and ran make clean; make dep; make zImage;
make modules; make modules_install; cp arch/i386/boot/zImage
/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.8; lilo.
Now when I run: modprobe sound, I get the following error:
/lib/modules/2.2.8/misc/soundcore.o: unresolved symbol request_module
sound: No such file or directory
I found the request_module function defined in the kmod.c file. Which
should be included when turning on KMOD. I then ran depmod -ae and found
the following additional errors:
/lib/modules/2.2.8/misc/videodev.o: unresolved symbol(s)
request_module
/lib/modules/2.2.8/misc/soundcore.o: unresolved symbol(s)
request_module
/lib/modules/2.2.8/misc/sound.o: unresolved symbol(s)
request_module
/lib/modules/2.2.8/net/ppp.o: unresolved symbol(s)
request_module
Any ideas? Thanks for your help.
Katrina
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From: Sagi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: File max size
Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 18:55:57 +0300
Under the 2.2.5 kernel what is the maximum file system and file size
avaliable
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert E. Hilson)
Subject: New to Linux
Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 14:46:59 GMT
How / Where can I obtain a copy of Linux and what C compiler is
available?
Thanks for the info.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Juergen Heinzl)
Subject: Re: Linux-2.2.8, 2.2.9 and update - What's the story?
Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 16:18:31 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Nix wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Juergen Heinzl) writes:
>
>> I did some late night digging regarding the 2.2.8 problem and IIRC yes,
>> there even was a patch so updated would not be necessary at all anymore.
>
>... and it turned out to have problems so was removed from 2.2.9.
>
>update is still needed.
... as I said about 3.29384 lines latter 8) ... is is my new after
shave that makes people quote me wrong or is it something else ?
Sigh,
Juergen
--
\ Real name : J�rgen Heinzl \ no flames /
\ EMail Private : [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ send money instead /
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From: Nix <$}xinix{[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Linux-2.2.8, 2.2.9 and update - What's the story?
Date: 23 May 1999 17:32:47 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Juergen Heinzl) writes:
> ... as I said about 3.29384 lines latter 8) ... is is my new after
> shave that makes people quote me wrong or is it something else ?
My cold/hayfever.
Whoops.
--
`As promised, here's the patch to do this. Not only is it good (it
compiles), but it is perfect (it boots). Up 9 minutes so far without
problems.' --- Richard Gooch on linux-kernel
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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Fr=E9d=E9ric?= FAUCOUNEAU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Help with translation file of RedHat
Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 18:06:31 +0200
Hello,
I would like to know how can I read in correct charset a file
"frx.tr" or "esx.tr" wich are in file "translationx.tr" which is in
installation diskette. I would like modify this file so I would like
using the good charset.
I have tried with recode but I don't know the initial charset.
I would like too add a command line after the installation but I
don't want use kickstart...
Thanks for you help.
Fr�d
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From: "Stefan Monnier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: File max size
Date: 23 May 1999 14:02:43 -0400
>>>>> "Sagi" == Sagi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Under the 2.2.5 kernel what is the maximum file system and file size
> avaliable
The max is at least further than 1TB.
Stefan
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From: Frank Sweetser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: File max size
Date: 23 May 1999 14:29:39 -0400
"Stefan Monnier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >>>>> "Sagi" == Sagi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Under the 2.2.5 kernel what is the maximum file system and file size
> > avaliable
>
> The max is at least further than 1TB.
with ext2, filesystem size is 4TB, file size is 2G, on 32 bit platforms
(such as ia32). signifigantly larger on 64 bit machines (alpha,
ultrasparc), and SGI's open sourcing XFS sounds like it'll have larger
numbers.
--
Frank Sweetser rasmusin at wpi.edu fsweetser at blee.net | PGP key available
paramount.ind.wpi.edu RedHat 5.2 kernel 2.2.5 i586 | at public servers
Perhaps they will have to outlaw sending random lists of words. fee fie
foe foo [sic]
-- Larry Wall in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.fan.kate.holloway.web.web.web,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.publish.electronic.developer,demon.ip.developers,hanse-ml.webstep.misc,intel.developer.web_site_help,linux.free-widget
Subject: $$$FORM HANDLER DESIGN BRIEF$$$
Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 19:40:10 +0100
This is a bona fide design breif. You will need to understand windows,
access97, e-mail and form handling to assist here.
There are two components to this design. A windows based interface and a
web based form. I am not sure how to do either, but I know it is possible
and need someone to, tell me how they intend doing it (I can have a
reasonably good instructive conversationas I am literate in database, html,
cgi etc - enough to make sense).
The windows based form interface is simple enough, I will design this using
FP98. What I need is the form handler to take one piece of information from
the form (it will only have one field) and post it to three places
simultaneously whilst also carrying two other pieces of information
(concealed from the user). Allow me to explain:
A surfer inputs their name and hits SUBMIT. Their name gets sent to a
database on the server which records their name in one field, the web site
address in another field (somehow this is attached to the form, hidden from
the user) and the extended date (mmddyy hh:mm:ss) - also hidden from the
user.
In addition to sending this information to the database, an e-mail is sent
with these three pieces of information, in the SUBJECT box it read something
like: Another User Signed In to a predetermined e-mail address.
The third place the information is received is a simple windows based
interface. In reality all this is, is an e-mail client that is constantly
connected to the internet and is all the time checking (say every 60
seconds) the same e-mail address (different from the one mentioned above)
for new mail. However, what the user sees is a simple form with three boxes
on it (this form is an Access97 form) - the form Refreshes every 60 seconds
and reveals the new 'e-mail' if one has arrived. The format is The Surfers
name (1st field), web page address (2nd field) and time/date (3rd field).
I have prepared a sample of how this form might look at th following
address:
www.everyco.net/delta/visitor.htm
As stated, this form must update itself (to the virtual server to check for
new mail) every 60 seconds using the REFRESH command in a macro - but how it
gets its information from the server I do not know - hence the reason for
this posting
It is worth notinh that in the second box, the Web SIte Address is a
Hyperlink - so whomever is using it can open the page
Then they can reject the three pieces of data or recorfd them in a simple
three field table.
That's it!
So what do you do and what will I do?
I can do everything except:
1. get the data from the form on the web site and get it sent to the
database (Acces 97) on the server (probably in a folder called database
curiously enough)
2. get the data into an e-mail saying "Another User Signed In"
3. get an e-mail client to capture text and somehow send it into a form in
Access so that I can do stuff with it
Finally, I am happy to assist or be hands off - your choice. However, i do
need control over the design of the final Access Interface and I will also
need to design the web interface too.
Please indicate a cost and time schedule - oh an how you wnt to be paid
As stated this is a bona fide enquiry - looking forward to your input
Thanks
Patrick Reynolds
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Juergen Heinzl)
Subject: Re: Linux-2.2.8, 2.2.9 and update - What's the story?
Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 21:57:47 GMT
In article <7i6jc6$hsf$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Michael F Gordon wrote:
>Can someone explain to me why we need update at all? Now that we've got
>kernel threads, wouldn't it be more elegant to have everything that
>update used to do in a thread? What does update do that couldn't be done
>by kflushd/kswapd?
I did some late night digging regarding the 2.2.8 problem and IIRC yes,
there even was a patch so updated would not be necessary at all anymore.
Might be just a "not all at once" approach.
[...]
Cheers,
Juergen
--
\ Real name : J�rgen Heinzl \ no flames /
\ EMail Private : [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ send money instead /
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