Linux-Development-Sys Digest #757, Volume #6     Mon, 31 May 99 15:14:07 EDT

Contents:
  IRQ 61, TLB IPI problem ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  help! i740 server doesn't work!! ("..Luca T..")
  Re: help! i740 server doesn't work!! (Frank Sweetser)
  DLL's in Linux ? (Richard R Urena)
  Re: DLL's in Linux ? (Josh Stern)
  IRQ 61, TLB IPI problem ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  uid and gid assignments as distributed (Phil Howard)
  Re: IRQ 61, TLB IPI problem ("Rick Lindsay")
  SOME PEOPLE ARE REALLY F%#@ED UP!!!  5337 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  YOURE NOT GOING TO BELIEVE THIS!  600 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: 2.2.9 is stable? (lckun)
  Re: Reliable (!) nic for 2.2 kernel? (Chris)
  Re: YOURE NOT GOING TO BELIEVE THIS!  600 ("CoughKool")
  Re: uid and gid assignments as distributed (H. Peter Anvin)
  [Q] New System Call ("Soohyung Lee")
  Re: [Q] New System Call ("Soohyung Lee")
  Re: DLL's in Linux ? (Kaz Kylheku)
  Re: 2.2.9 is stable? (lckun)
  2.2.9 ("Ross Maguire")
  Re: Kernel and hisax isdn driver support (Igor Zlatkovic)
  drivers for a Graphics card (Benoit Glikmanas)
  Re: [Q] New System Call ("Nail Kaipov")
  Re: [Q] New System Call (Jean Wolter)
  Re: Configuration Manager for Linux ("Selious")
  Re: Canon Printer Users...Please Read (Bernd Strieder)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: IRQ 61, TLB IPI problem
Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 22:22:46 GMT

Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

regular newsfeed down, work unreachable :-(

I've got a dual Celeron system, ASUS 100MHz m/b.
running RedHat 6.0 Linux
Dual 366MHz 370-pin PGA o/c to bus 85, CPU 450.

After running hard for 10 hours or so (mprime +
setiathome)
I get :
Unexpected IRQ vector 61 on CPU #1
Stuck on TBL IPI wait (CPU #0)

This with kernel 2.2.5, and also 2.3.2 SMP

First time with 2.3.2, the system locked.
With 2.2.5, it hung in there for a couple of
minutes with
lots of these errors, ethernet couldn't interrupt
etc. then hung.
Hung to black screen (was in console mode, running
softdog)
3finger salute no good, reset button no good
(maybe didn't hold it
>4 seconds), front panel power off no good. Pulled
the power for
1 minute - that worked, eventually.

Ideas ??

--
Andrew Daviel
http://vancouver-webpages.com/andrew
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From: "..Luca T.." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: help! i740 server doesn't work!!
Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 02:32:40 +0200

I downloaded XFCom_i740 server and xf86config, i installed everything whith
rpm and tar commands, i ran xf86config, i selected "GENERIC i740", but it
doesn't work.
Does anyone knows the THRUTH????
(i use red hat linux 6.0)
Luca Tamburrano  ([EMAIL PROTECTED])   (take the "x" away)



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From: Frank Sweetser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: help! i740 server doesn't work!!
Date: 30 May 1999 20:59:22 -0400

"..Luca T.." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I downloaded XFCom_i740 server and xf86config, i installed everything whith
> rpm and tar commands, i ran xf86config, i selected "GENERIC i740", but it
> doesn't work.
> Does anyone knows the THRUTH????

it works for me.  can't help you any more without more detailed information
(details of the card you're using, do you get any graphics at all, any
error messages...?)

-- 
Frank Sweetser rasmusin at wpi.edu fsweetser at blee.net  | PGP key available
paramount.ind.wpi.edu RedHat 5.2 kernel 2.2.5        i586 | at public servers
Though I'll admit readability suffers slightly...
             -- Larry Wall in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard R Urena)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: DLL's in Linux ?
Date: 30 May 1999 21:44:25 -0400

So I got bored yesterday and ran ldd on all the files in
my system.

Part of the output reads:

        /usr/bin/basic   libm.so.4 (DLL Jump 4.5pl26)

(BTW, I didn't know I had BASIC on my machine; this is
really a dream come true for me.)

But anyway, there were several other programs with
mention of these "DLL Jump"s

What exactly does this mean?


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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: DLL's in Linux ?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Josh Stern)
Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 02:30:28 GMT

Richard R Urena <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>So I got bored yesterday and ran ldd on all the files in
>my system.
>
>Part of the output reads:
>
>       /usr/bin/basic   libm.so.4 (DLL Jump 4.5pl26)
>
>(BTW, I didn't know I had BASIC on my machine; this is
>really a dream come true for me.)
>
>But anyway, there were several other programs with
>mention of these "DLL Jump"s


Modern Linux systems use ELF format executables, but still
have the ability to run a.out format binaries.  One of the
main reasons for moving to ELF from a.out was that it is much
easier in ELF for programmers to create shared/dynamically
linked libraries (DLLs).  In the old a.out, format, a lot
more low level work was required, involving setting up
these jump tables more or less by hand.  So the binaries
that give outputs like the one above, are simply old a.out
binaries with a.out shared libs.  

- Josh




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: IRQ 61, TLB IPI problem
Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 22:25:09 GMT

I've got a dual Celeron system, ASUS 100MHz m/b. running RedHat 6.0
Linux
Dual 366MHz 370-pin PGA o/c to bus 85, CPU 450.

After running hard for 10 hours or so (mprime + setiathome)
I get :
Unexpected IRQ vector 61 on CPU #1
Stuck on TBL IPI wait (CPU #0)

This with kernel 2.2.5, and also 2.3.2 SMP

First time with 2.3.2, the system locked.
With 2.2.5, it hung in there for a couple of minutes with
lots of these errors, ethernet couldn't interrupt etc. then hung.Hung to
black screen (was in console mode, running softdog)
3finger salute no good, reset button no good (maybe didn't hold it
>4 seconds), front panel power off no good. Pulled the power for
1 minute - that worked, eventually.

Ideas ??


--
Andrew Daviel
http://vancouver-webpages.com/andrew
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Phil Howard)
Subject: uid and gid assignments as distributed
Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 22:31:43 GMT

Again, I upgrade, and again, uid and/or gid number conflicts.

Is there a standard anywhere that indicates what range of uid/gid
numbers a distribution/vendor may use, vs. which ones I may use
(any administrator) such that I can expect in the future there will
never be any conflicts?

Are any of the pre-assigned uids/gids freely changeable at will after
the installation is done?  Do any programs need to be recompiled to
make correct changes in uid/gid?

I'm wanting to reserve a block for internal users (I have done 100-999
in the past) and external users (1000-59999).  Should I move these on
up way higher?

--
Phil Howard           KA9WGN
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: "Rick Lindsay" <lcs@"jump".net>
Crossposted-To: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: IRQ 61, TLB IPI problem
Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 20:48:33 -0500 (CDT)
Reply-To: "Lindsay Computer Systems" <lcs@"jump".net>

On Sun, 30 May 1999 21:36:14 GMT, Andrew Daviel wrote:

>I've got a dual Celeron system, ASUS 100MHz m/b. running RedHat 6.0 Linux
>Dual 366MHz 370-pin PGA o/c to bus 85, CPU 450.
>After running hard for 10 hours or so (mprime + setiathome)
>I get :
>Unexpected IRQ vector 61 on CPU #1
>Stuck on TBL IPI wait (CPU #0)
>This with kernel 2.2.5, and also 2.3.2 SMP
>First time with 2.3.2, the system locked.
>With 2.2.5, it hung in there for a couple of minutes with
>lots of these errors, ethernet couldn't interrupt etc. then hung.
>Hung to black screen (was in console mode, running softdog)
>3finger salute no good, reset button no good (maybe didn't hold it 
>>4 seconds), front panel power off no good. Pulled the power for
>1 minute - that worked, eventually.
>Ideas ??

Sure, reproduce the problem with a pair of Slot 1 specification processors!


Rick Lindsay, Lindsay Computer Systems, http://www.lc-sys.com
Austin, Texas. 512-719-5257.  Asus based systems, Asus Products. 
                                    Advanced Systems.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: SOME PEOPLE ARE REALLY F%#@ED UP!!!  5337
Date: 31 May 1999 03:30:10 GMT


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: YOURE NOT GOING TO BELIEVE THIS!  600
Date: 31 May 1999 02:18:11 GMT


fcuwgxricgemxgethpuzo


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From: lckun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 2.2.9 is stable?
Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 19:43:32 +0900

Hi Stefan

I sent the e-mail about my problem to adress [EMAIL PROTECTED], which
you gave me.
But my e-mali returned to me. I think the adress is changed.. :-)
Have you new adress for me to the mailing list for linux-kernel

Regards

lee


"Stefan Monnier " wrote:

> >>>>> "lckun" == lckun  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > I tested for example in the function goodness sched.c
> > printk("this_cpu--> %d\n",this_cpu);
> > only to test it.
> > It runed no problems on the kernel 2.0.36.
>
> So what ?
>
>         int x = 1;
>         char y = *(char*)&x;
>
> will also work in most cases (but will not always put the same value in `y').
> That doesn't mean that it is *supposed* to work.
> Now, again, I have no clue whether printk is supposed to be working from
> goodness or not, but you'd better check this first.
>
> > Hmm... what is the trouble? I am working only this thing since one week,but
> > in vain... :-( :-(
>
> How about asking on the list I pointed you to earlier so that you can know
> instead of using trial and error which only tells you what `seems to be
> working' rather than `what should be working'.
>
>         Stefan


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Reliable (!) nic for 2.2 kernel?
Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 05:39:01 GMT

On 10 May 1999 20:54:51 -0400, Johan Kullstam
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
>is 100Mbps supposed to work with a cross-over cable?  when i got my
>gear at a computer show, i was advised to get a hub for the fast
>ethernet.
>

well, i'm using it, and i get no problems.
i've got a w98 box -> linux box over some 21140 rev d's
and i get ~100Mb/s

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From: "CoughKool" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: YOURE NOT GOING TO BELIEVE THIS!  600
Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 05:36:51 GMT

where you born an idiot, or was it developed?
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:7isrh3$6mfo$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> fcuwgxricgemxgethpuzo
>



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (H. Peter Anvin)
Subject: Re: uid and gid assignments as distributed
Date: 31 May 1999 05:58:24 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (H. Peter Anvin)

Followup to:  <j%i43.2964$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
By author:    [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Phil Howard)
In newsgroup: comp.os.linux.development.system
>
> Again, I upgrade, and again, uid and/or gid number conflicts.
> 
> Is there a standard anywhere that indicates what range of uid/gid
> numbers a distribution/vendor may use, vs. which ones I may use
> (any administrator) such that I can expect in the future there will
> never be any conflicts?
> 

Yes, 0-99 are assigned by the distribution (with 0, of course, being root).

        -hpa
-- 
"The user's computer downloads the ActiveX code and simulates a 'Blue
Screen' crash, a generally benign event most users are familiar with
and that would not necessarily arouse suspicions."
-- Security exploit description on http://www.zks.net/p3/how.asp

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From: "Soohyung Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Q] New System Call
Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 15:03:31 +0900

Hi.

I want to add new system call 'rt_execve' into the kernel 2.0.36.
According to the book (linux kernel internals 2nd), I added
the following lines.

1. (include/asm/unistd.h)

    #define __NR_rt_execve          190


2. (arch/i386/kernel/entry.S)

    .long SYMBOL_NAME(sys_rt_execve)        /* 190 Real-Time Execve */
    .space (NR_syscalls-190)*4


3. (arch/i386/kernel/entry.S)

    static inline _syscall3(int,rt_execve,const char *,file,char
**,argv,char **,envp)



And then, I compiled the kernel and reboot.
But, when I compiled my user level application that uses the new system
call,
I announce an error that says " rt_execve : undefined symbol " .

Is there any mistake in my trials ?
Can you tell me ?
I really need your help.
Please, help me ..
Thanks in advance ..


- Lee -



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From: "Soohyung Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Q] New System Call
Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 21:01:54 +0900

> I think you need to add export symbol stuff to
> kernel/ksyms.c

Thanks for your response .
But, I already added that export symbol and still have same problem .
I don't know what is the problem.
Thanks anyway .

- Lee -




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kaz Kylheku)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: DLL's in Linux ?
Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 05:09:44 GMT

On 30 May 1999 21:44:25 -0400, Richard R Urena <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>So I got bored yesterday and ran ldd on all the files in
>my system.
>
>Part of the output reads:
>
>       /usr/bin/basic   libm.so.4 (DLL Jump 4.5pl26)
>
>(BTW, I didn't know I had BASIC on my machine; this is
>really a dream come true for me.)
>
>But anyway, there were several other programs with
>mention of these "DLL Jump"s
>
>What exactly does this mean?

It means that your Linux system is *severely* out of date.  Jump-table based
shared libraries are a relic from the a.out period of Linux. They had a number
of disadvantages, the most prominent being a pre-assigned virtual address.
With the adoption of ELF, this method went out the window.

On a modern Linux system, the output of ldd looks like this:

$ ldd /usr/bin/perl
        libnsl.so.1 => /lib/libnsl.so.1 (0x40004000)
        libdb.so.2 => /lib/libdb.so.2 (0x4000a000)
        libgdbm.so.2 => /usr/lib/libgdbm.so.2 (0x40018000)
        libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x4001f000)
        libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0x40022000)
        libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x4003b000)
        libcrypt.so.1 => /lib/libcrypt.so.1 (0x400e0000)
        /lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x2aaaa000)

$ ldd /bin/ls
        libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x40004000)
        /lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x2aaaa000)

Notice how libc.so.6 has different addresses in the two processes.
This requires the library to be compiled with -fPIC (position independent
code).

Next time you get bored, consider upgrading. :)

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From: lckun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 2.2.9 is stable?
Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 21:58:00 +0900


Now i found e-mail adress for mailing-list.. :-)

lckun


>


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From: "Ross Maguire" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: 2.2.9
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 00:18:51 +1000

G'day, soemting simple I think. I have just installed a new kernel 2.2.9 on
my RedHat 5.2 installation, and I keep getting errors when trying to use
PPP. Everything else works, but I compiled this as a module, and I keep
receiving the error that I don't have a module installed. I have tried
insmod etc, but must be doing something wrong. I also used make modules, and
make modules_install. Is there something else I have to do to get the
modules to load?

Thanks for any help.



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From: Igor Zlatkovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Kernel and hisax isdn driver support
Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 08:53:50 +0000

Kristian Vuorinen wrote:

>     Hello,
>
>             Someone should update ISDN driver support to support other
> TELES cards than 16.3 and 16.3c and 16.0 cause those aren't that popular
>
>             like vision b5 is nowadays. ( which i have ( vision b5 ))
>
>             if someone got information where i could directly mail this
> suggestion to hisax development team or got solution to my problem,
> please reply
>
>          with respect, Funk-e

You can go and compile the the newest kernel yourself. You will find a lot
of cards in the kernel configuration. If the one you need is not there,
then go to http://www.isdn4linux.de and look for the newest shapshot of the
driver, which supports twice as much cards.

--
      o
     O       Cheers,
  ______O___
  \________/   Igor Zlatkovic
   \   o  /    mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
    \ O  /
     \  /
      \/
      ||       University of Applied Sciences
   ___||___    Frankfurt, Germany, EU.




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From: Benoit Glikmanas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: drivers for a Graphics card
Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 16:04:51 +0200

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I'm looking for a driver to download on Linux System for my Graphics
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Does anybody know on which site I can find it.
Thanks a lot.

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From: "Nail Kaipov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Q] New System Call
Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 16:58:11 +0400

I think you need to add export symbol stuff to
kernel/ksyms.c





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From: Jean Wolter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Q] New System Call
Date: 31 May 1999 15:58:05 +0200

"Soohyung Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> 
> > I think you need to add export symbol stuff to
> > kernel/ksyms.c
> 
> Thanks for your response .
> But, I already added that export symbol and still have same problem .
> I don't know what is the problem.
> Thanks anyway .
> 
> - Lee -

If your application is a normal application like /bin/ls (in contrast
to a kernel modul) you still need a function which actually invokes
your new system call. For each available system call you have two
parts, one inside the kernel and a small C stub inside libc. The small
C stub takes the arguments of the system call, loads them into some
registers and enters the kernel using a special asm instruction (int
$0x80 on x86). You have written the kernel part of your system
call. Now you have to add the user part of it.

Have a look at include/asm/unistd.h. It provides some macros which
you can use to define your new system call function. Maybe it could
look like the following:

_syscall3(int,rt_execve,const char *,file,char **,argv,char **,envp)

If my memory serves right there is a generic C function in libc which
can be used to invoke a  system call, but I forgot the name.

Hope this will help,

Jean
-- 
I get up each morning, gather my wits.
Pick up the paper, read the obits.
if I'm not there I know I'm not dead.
So I eat a good breakfast and go back to bed. Peete Seeger

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From: "Selious" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Configuration Manager for Linux
Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 16:12:36 +0200

Join the club !!

I am developing a agent that parses configuration files, and allows
'clients' to represent it the way they want.

The main task is converting modules from webmin, linuxconf, coas, etc. to
C++ classes that are able to parse data into chunks of data accesible
through the network.

Join me !!

There is one other developer busy with this, and three of them told me they
will join (though I don't have anything jet they produced or contributed).

Anyway, the following prototypes I already developed:

- Monitor changes in configuration files
- Connect throuhg TCP/IP sockets to a linux machine to receive config-data
- NDS (Netware Administrator snapin) implementation of this stuff (could be
a local X-tool, curses based console app, web-based stuff, java, ADSI, LDAP,
etc, but I am expert in NDS programming, so I make a NDS client for the
project !!).

The parsing of config files (making document of syntax rules, for instance,
what kind of end-line bytes can be used in /etc/hosts, where is the location
(is the /etc/hosts file locatable somewhere else in combination with a
enviroment string), etc. etc.

If you really want to help, let me know. We do not have a definite approach
jet, and one of the requirements is that we setup a nice interface to
attract others to join in programming.

Come to my news-server where the discussions are done (the server is pretty
empty, cause I reinstalled to RedHat 6.0 over the weekend). Here I will post
the latest documents of the projects and subprojects (investigating webmin,
linuxconf, etc).

The approach is to determine the work into single tasks, where the
programmer get's a predefined design for the module he has to make !!

But again, we are in prototyping/designing fase (trying what is possible,
etc.), so any good ideas can still be implemented.

p.s. the interface and deamon will be GPL, but the (difficult) modules like
sendmail and my NDS client won't, as I focus on cost of ownership for
companies (for a hobbyist, manually configuring is much more fun !!) which
this product should reduce.

It must end in a control over linux stations like Novell's ZEN does for
Windows workstation and software.

Selious



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From: Bernd Strieder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Canon Printer Users...Please Read
Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 20:34:27 +0200

Hi,

a friend had an BJC 4300 and BJC 4500 running fine under Linux, even
color was ok with those printers. I'm not sure if all capabilities are
exploited.

He used the setup tool "yast" of his SuSE linux distro to set the
printer up, and all was fine. I'm sure other distros can do that well,
too, since ghostscript has support for some Canon printers:

>From output of "gs -h"

Available devices:
{...]    
   hpdj laserjet ljet2p ljet3 ljet3d ljet4 lj4dith ljetplus lp2563 bj10e
   bj200 bjc600 bjc800 lbp8 lips3 declj250 la50 la70 la75 la75plus ln03
[...]

You can try out those four bj10e, bj200, bjc600, bjc800 with various
resolutions which gives the best results with your printer. If nothing
runs, there might be a chance that you have some kind of Win-printer
from Canon, but then you are lost, AFAIK. I think you cannot expect
results as good as under Windows, but this is due to the older drivers
of gs against the fresh native drivers from Canon. It could be as easy
for Canon as supplying the appropriate driver code (in C?) to the
gs-maintainers. Just code to translate a bitmap to a stream of data to
the printer they have already included in their existing drivers.
Everybody could be happy with Canon printers under Linux.

HTH

Bernd Strieder

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