Linux-Development-Sys Digest #837, Volume #6 Wed, 16 Jun 99 15:14:19 EDT
Contents:
Re: How to read files in a driver (Philipp Thomas)
Re: linux wavelan driver (Jorgen Ostling)
Re: TAO: the ultimate OS (Konstantin Koll)
Re: You can now use Winmodems in Linux!!!!!!! (Darragh)
Re: Linuxthreads (Martin Recktenwald)
Re: Ports adresses (Martin Recktenwald)
Re: MMX & SMP HOWTO? (Marcus Sundberg)
where can I geet msgfmt0.10.35 or later? (y chen)
Re: Can Linux Boot and Run without a BIOS? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
[printer drivers] ("Glen Presho")
Re: Translation of linux to minor languages (Nigel Andrews)
Re: What are the differences between mySQL and mSQL? (Don Baccus)
Re: Problem with vremap function (Wez Furlong)
Re: Any Mail Application for commercial use ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: What are the differences between mySQL and mSQL? (Don Baccus)
Re: swap partition removed data from MO (Paul Sherwin)
How many memory does kernel hold ?? ("lming")
Re: What are the differences between mySQL and mSQL? (bryan)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Philipp Thomas)
Subject: Re: How to read files in a driver
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 10:00:13 GMT
On Tue, 15 Jun 1999 23:47:24 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brian Q Bian) wrote:
>Why am I getting this error message and what is the proper
>way to read files in the kernel mode?(Unfortunately, I couldn't find
>the answers in the "Linux Device Drivers" Book).
AFAIK, you can't access files from within a driver. If it's code you want to
load, why don't you include it in the driver and mark it as initfuc so it gets
discarded after initializing ?
Philipp
--
the reality is that having most things standardized at the expense
of a few gotchas is better than no standard at all, which is often
the only other choice.
Donn Terry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 09:21:33 +0200
From: Jorgen Ostling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux wavelan driver
Cynthia Montalvo wrote:
>
> Hi. I'm using Lucent's WaveLan/PCMCIA card on a laptop with RedHat Linux
>
> 5.2 (kernel 36) and want to be on 2.4 gHz. I've already installed the
> pcmcia-cs-3.0.7 file. My question is does anyone know where i can get a
> linux
> driver for the WaveLan card?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> cynthia
Have a look at:
<http://www.fasta.fh-dortmund.de/users/andy/wvlan/>
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From: Konstantin Koll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.misc,comp.unix.advocacy
Subject: Re: TAO: the ultimate OS
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 13:32:30 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello,
I just read your theoretical paper about "Tao". It reads interesting, and is NOT
theroretical at all: Tao is alive and already working. Friends and me have been
working on an OS that does exactly what you think "Tao" should do. The name of
that OS is "DESKWORK" and is ready to be shipped in July 1999.
Take a look at http://www.deskwork.de/WELCOME.HTML to see screenshots and learn
more about it.
Best regards, Konstantin Koll
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From: Darragh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: You can now use Winmodems in Linux!!!!!!!
Date: 16 Jun 1999 08:30:46 GMT
Billy Moon wrote:
>
> I am currently working on a application that enables winmodems to
function
> in Linux. Anyone who would like to help test this app please contact me.
>
>
>
Please send me the stuff. I would really like my Winmodem to work in Linux!
Thanks in return.
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From: Martin Recktenwald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linuxthreads
Date: 16 Jun 1999 14:42:54 +0200
Sven Heursch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> But in the glibc 2.1.1 I cannot find the file "internal.h" where these
> Signals are defined to use for LinuxThreads.
> Aren't they used anymore?
AFAIR they are not used anymore if your kernel knows about posix
realtime signals (since 2.1.xxx).
Martin.
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From: Martin Recktenwald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: Ports adresses
Date: 16 Jun 1999 14:39:45 +0200
Christophe Basset <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> ptraddr=(unsigned int *) 0x408;
Use the IO port instructions inb/outb. See the IOport-mini-howto.
Martin.
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From: Marcus Sundberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: MMX & SMP HOWTO?
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 14:40:09 +0200
Gianni Mariani wrote:
>
> Marcus Sundberg wrote:
> ...
>
> > You are dreaming... ;)
> > No released Linux kernel contins a file named xor.c
>
> Um, I think you're wrong Marcus. The file xor.c comes from a
> released Redhat 6.0 kernel and it uses MMX instructions.
>
> cd /usr/src/linux; find . -name xor.c
> ./drivers/block/xor.c
>
> You may need to add the RAID patches to get it but it's certainly
> a "released" kernel, albeit from Redhat.
By "released kernel" I mean a kernel released by Linus.
Ofcourse you _can_ use MMX in the kernel, just as you can use the
FPU (Pentium memcpy() patch does this), but doing so is the exception,
not the rule.
//Marcus
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Royal Institute of Technology | Phone: +46 707 295404
Stockholm, Sweden | E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: y chen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: where can I geet msgfmt0.10.35 or later?
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 09:16:02 -0400
Hi, there,
I try to compile glibc2.1, and ./configure complain
msgfmt version is 0.10, I am supposed to get
version 0.10.35.
So does anyone know where can I get it?
Thanks!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Can Linux Boot and Run without a BIOS?
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 13:33:35 GMT
OK, if i have load the linux boot image into RAM, without
using the BIOS, then, can i run linux normally? if linux have
been on the way, will it never call any BIOS service (switch
to real mode if required), or never use any BIOS data, true?
regard
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Medical Electronics Lab <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > Can Linux boot from chaos and run, without a BIOS?
>
> In principle, yes. What boots the boot?
> Usually a bios!!
>
> Suppose you have a system with only RAM, no
> proms. How do you boot it? Somehow, you have
> to load executable code into it, and when the
> processor comes out of reset, it will begin
> to execute that code. If it's a linux boot,
> you're on the way. How'd you get the data into
> RAM?
>
> Answer the last question, and you've done it!
>
> Patience, persistence, truth,
> Dr. mike
>
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
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From: "Glen Presho" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [printer drivers]
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 08:42:43 -0600
Does anyone know of Lexmark printer drivers for Linux? I have a 7000 that
I'd really like to use.
-TIA
--
Glen Presho
ISS III University of Montana
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
The box said Windows95 or better,
so I installed Linux.
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From: Nigel Andrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [email protected].
Subject: Re: Translation of linux to minor languages
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 16:25:44 +0100
On Mon, 10 May 1999, Jonathan A. Buzzard wrote:
> Use the layout manager widgets, they are you friend. If you used layout
> manager widget's then length of you text strings is not important anymore.
Some people seem to dislike such entities though.
> > - text pieces, which are combined at runtime are a nightmare: "The xxxx
> > could not be xxxx, because xxxx" can not be translated, because you are
> > combining e.g. Russian text fragments using English grammar.
>
> This is usually bad practice anyway
This it is.
> > - How do you translate directory and file names? You don't? Well, what if
> > they appear in the UI?
>
> Why should they appear in the UI?
You may want them in the UI. A file selection dialog for instance. The
filesystem (ext2 anyway) will accept KOI8 characters for names. Only
you'll run into problems with things like 'ls' not displaying them because
of the 8th bit (I presume). In the past I've ended up using the correct
number of wildcards to select files, not the best method but at least it
works if it matches what you want.
> > - does passwd accepts Japanese or cyrillic characters (or simply say latin
> > characters, which are not used in English) as password and/or login name?
> > Ooops, that means cyrillic and Japanese directory names in /home. Can "ls"
> > deal with them? And can they be found by e.g. a "find -name"?
>
> As your user name does not have to represent your real name this is not
> important. Why should passwd need to accept Japanese or cyrillic characters?
>
> > And for UNIX you have the additional problem that the output of command line
> > commands is often used as the input for the next command in a pipe. So if
> > you translate the output of let's say "ls", then you have to re-engineer all
> > programs, which possibly read the output of ls and take it as their input.
Assuming the utilities do work ok, I'm not sure what you mean is a
problem. If you're processing the output of ls you'll either be selecting
by column, various other things or even by filename. If by filename, which
must be the sort of thing you're on about, then you know what the filename
is so ...
>
> I can see that a user might want to use non latin characters in a file name,
> but I don't think that ext2 supports Unicode file names, so this is a
> moot point currently. It will however take a massive effort to get
> working.
Don't know about the unicode bit.
Nigel Andrews
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Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.lang.java.databases
Subject: Re: What are the differences between mySQL and mSQL?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Don Baccus)
Date: 16 Jun 1999 09:58:29 PST
In article <8Gs93.60$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
bryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>simple - cause not all the linux db's HAVE transactions. that's why!
Arguing that you don't need transactions because you don't use
a db that does them is a bit like arguing that backups are useless
because you personally don't own a backup device...
>believe me, if I could count on it always being there in code and
>always working, fine. but db's are pretty new to linux and beggars
>can't be choosers, as they say. so you live within the constraints of
>what you DO have.
I'm using postgres 6.5, which is transaction-based, open-source,
and while not perfect, very good. A pleasant surprise after my
(short) experience with 6.4.2.
I'm using it to back a website, and knowing that my code can
catch problems and roll the db back to a consistent state
means I can program the site to be more robust. Or, at least,
to require a lot less fixing by hand on my part :)
--
- Don Baccus, Portland OR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Nature photos, on-line guides, at http://donb.photo.net
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wez Furlong)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Problem with vremap function
Date: 16 Jun 1999 14:01:47 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
] Quoted from: Vincent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
] Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 12:03:55 +0200
>Hi. (I'm under Linux SuSE 6.0 (kernel 2.0.36))
>
>I'm developping a driver for industrial PCI card. Each card have 2Ko of
>memory.
>
>The first card has an adress: 0xFF000000
>The second has an adress: 0xFF000800
>
>My problem is that vremap can't maps the second memory.
>How can I resolve this error ?
>Can I reduce the page size ?
>Or, must I use other function than vremap ???
IIRC, you should be using ioremap, rather than vremap (read
/usr/src/linux/Documentatio/IO-Mapping.txt).
I'm not sure, but I think they are the same function, however.
--
Wez Furlong Undergrad - Electronic Systems Engineering
http://www.twinklestar.demon.co.uk
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Any Mail Application for commercial use
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.misc
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 14:03:12 GMT
> In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Eddy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>Besides Zmail and Sendmail, is there any mail application suitable for
>>commercial use ? As Sendmail seems too complicated for commercial and
>>the user interface is not so user-friendly.
qmail works well commercially, and has fewer security holes.
--
Adam C. Emerson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.calvin.edu/~aemers19/
Movesource Network Systems Specialist
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Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.lang.java.databases
Subject: Re: What are the differences between mySQL and mSQL?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Don Baccus)
Date: 16 Jun 1999 10:08:59 PST
In article <7k79rs$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
david parsons <o r c @ p e l l . p o r t l a n d . o r . u s> wrote:
> You'd be surprised; once you get away from the database
> pundits and RDB consultants (both types favor correctness
> when it means that more RDB software will be purchased from
> their corporate masters), about every permutation you can
> think of will be used in the real world.
> You don't want to think about what people will do to increase
> performance. Running a hot database on a server that doesn't
> do transactions is pretty minor stuff
Please don't do this with MY bank account...
> compared to some of the things that can be done.
>>If you've denormalized checking balances into thirty tables,
>>don't have atomicity, and an update dies half-way through
>>updating these tables, which balance do you trust?
> Then you've (a) not denormalized properly and (b) an idiot for not
> using a transactional database for a problem that won't work
> without transactions.
It's actually (b), and that's my point. Denormalization does
not get rid of the need to do proper transactions - which was
the claim of the post I was responding to. Apparently you
agree with me.
> I'd consider a checking balance to be a report field, and just use
> a report generator to generate it out of the ledger. You could
> probably do it in a nontransactional system; you'd have all the
> credits and debits be atomic inserts into the ledger
So you have customer A and customer B. You debit A and credit
B. This needs to be atomic. A transactional system handles
that automatically. If you don't use a transactional system
you need to make those two db operations atomic on your own,
and guarantee it works.
Why bother when a proper db does it for you already?
> You could. I wouldn't, unless I had a six-month retainer in my
> pocket and a notarised amnesty protecting me from legal action
> when some clever hacker kites the first $100,000 check.
Yeah...
>>Why bother? Why not use a transaction-based db in the first
>>place?
> Dunno. Possibly for performance reasons, possibly for religious
> reasons (cf: Sybase not being Free(tm)), possibly because of
> sheer cussedness.
What can I say? :)
--
- Don Baccus, Portland OR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Nature photos, on-line guides, at http://donb.photo.net
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Sherwin)
Crossposted-To:
alt.linux,alt.os.linux,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,aus.computers.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,de.alt.comm.isdn4linux,fj.
Subject: Re: swap partition removed data from MO
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 20:46:11 GMT
On Wed, 16 Jun 1999 04:10:20 +0800, "Andrew Ng"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have a problem: When I was installing Linux, I mistakenly create a 16M
>swap partition in an MO disk. Then Windows 98 cound not read the content in
>the MO disk. I removed the swap partition but Windows 98 cound not read it.
>I am affraid all data in the MO is lost. Who can tell me how to recovered
>the data?
>
Sounds like the MO disk is trashed. Sorry...
Best regards, Paul
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From: "lming" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How many memory does kernel hold ??
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 01:18:44 +0800
kernel 2.0.34
Does somebody know how many memory (process+reverse)does kernel hold .
Thanks.
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From: bryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What are the differences between mySQL and mSQL?
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.lang.java.databases
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 22:43:06 GMT
In comp.os.linux.development.apps Doug DeJulio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: In article <8Gs93.60$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
: bryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: >In comp.os.linux.development.apps Don Baccus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: >: Why bother? Why not use a transaction-based db in the first
: >: place?
: >
: >simple - cause not all the linux db's HAVE transactions. that's why!
: That's not an answer. Some linux db's (including free ones) *do* have
: transactions. If you need transactions, why not switch to one of
: those instead of jumping through hoops to avoid it?
uhm, lesser of two evils, then?
I like the stability of mysql but dislike the fact that it has no transactions.
I like the trans. of postgresql, but it has some bugs that make me
want to avoid postgresql.
since I can structure my code (pretty much) so that transactions
aren't a MUST-HAVE, I choose mysql. for now, at least.
--
Bryan [at] Grateful.Net
http://www.Grateful.Net
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