Linux-Development-Sys Digest #97, Volume #7 Tue, 24 Aug 99 04:14:03 EDT
Contents:
Re: General purpose serial PCI driver available for testing (Otto Moerbeek)
Re: 497.2 days ought to be enough for everybody (Ray)
Re: TAO: the ultimate OS ("Vladimir Z. Nuri")
Compile Kernel with ROOT NFS support... - fail ("Barrow Kwan")
Re: Help!! LILO booting stopping on LI ("Ashutosh S. Rajekar")
Re: TAO: the ultimate OS ("Vladimir Z. Nuri")
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From: Otto Moerbeek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.powerpc
Subject: Re: General purpose serial PCI driver available for testing
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 07:50:26 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi to you all,
I new version of the serial driver PCI patch is available at my little
site <http:///people.a2000.nl/omoerbe/>. It fixes a stupid bug related
to PCI base address masking.
Regards,
Otto
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Otto Moerbeek
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ray)
Subject: Re: 497.2 days ought to be enough for everybody
Date: 24 Aug 1999 05:28:21 GMT
Hi,
> Basically it's throw-the-dice.
OK, so I'm cheating when I try to increase my chances? :)
> network interfaces, unload modules, unmount filesystems, kill -STOP
> your updated, etc., whatever is practical, for the duration of the
> rollover (30 seconds before and after should be more than enough).
The problem is that I'm about 8000 miles away when /it/ happens. I just
didn't check before booking the flight :> I don't want to shoot myself
in the foot and lock myself out /without/ it being the kernel's fault :)
I will kill all processes which aren't needed and hope that's enough.
The first box that survived the rollover had lots of tasks running...
> awhile back (it was on Cahalan's 2.2 wishlist web page...) of setting
> jiffies to T minus 10 minutes on boot (instead of 0), to see what
> breaks.
Shortly before my first rollover there was a kernel module announced,
using which you can fake the uptime. I know somebody set his time near
the maximum and crashed during the rollover (quite a shock for me, I had
planned a 500 day uptime party before I knew about that jiffies thing :)
Using that module could be an easy way to test for rollover bugs.
> On the other hand, most instances of the problem are readily
> greppable so maybe this wouldn't be needed.
By the way, while setting up the process killer I found something funny:
you can't sleep beyond the magical date. I am about 6000 minutes before
the rollover now, and when I type "sleep 6200" at the shell, it returns
immediately :) Bit of a problem for me now, because I just planned to
do "sleep 6000m; kill everything; sleep 10m; restart everything" - the
sleep 10m would of course fail because of this. I'll have to think about
something else... "rsh anotherhost sleep" - rsleep? :) Oh no, ssh of course.
I want to sleep secure :)
(:ul8er, r@y
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From: "Vladimir Z. Nuri" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.misc,comp.unix.advocacy
Subject: Re: TAO: the ultimate OS
Date: 24 Aug 1999 06:36:24 GMT
Christopher R. Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Perhaps
: TAO could even convince INTEL to build a TAO processor. Don't you agree?
sounds like a good idea to me.
: If you can layout TAO'S internal structures ie: Interrupt stacks,
: process trees, driver interfaces, etc I would be glad to start writing
: code immediately.
the document is a start in this direction. in contrast to the
linux/unix "bottom up" it is a "top down" approach. I will work
with anyone who wants to contribute. people who write messages
in the form "I will not do anything until I see [x]" do not really
strike me as willing contributors. its the moving goalpost problem.
(interested ppl, plz see my sig and sign up to mailing list)
I recognize words are cheap, but your own cynicism/sarcasm I
find unnecessary.
: However after examining your constraint "wish list" I find nothing that
: the current OS's don't already do.
bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzt. every item in the essay emphasizes how its
description varies from all existing OSes. there are many examples
listed, but one of my favorites is the way that win95 cannot
handle the simple problem of viruses.
: Have you taken a look at WEB-TV lately.
a step in the right direction, imho, which the essay mentions
specifically. btw, just curious, did you read any of it?
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From: "Barrow Kwan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,net.computers.os.unix.linux
Subject: Compile Kernel with ROOT NFS support... - fail
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 23:12:21 -0700
I cannot compile the kernel with NFS root support....
I put
CONFIG_ROOT_NFS=y in the config file, but can't compile
I am using RedHat 6.0...
any idea??
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From: "Ashutosh S. Rajekar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help!! LILO booting stopping on LI
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 11:30:45 -0500
Hello,
In fact, you should never change the disk geometry settings, say
for eg. from CHS to LBA, or using the largre mode after installing LILO.
LILO works very well if you don't play around with it, but otherwise watch
out. Try another bootloader, say GRUB, http://www.uruk.org/grub, which is
a GPLed bootloader, and can boot DOS, WIN95, WinNT, Linux, GNU/Hurd, Mach,
FreeBSD, OpenBSD, NetBSD, and some others. I has a very new design, and
is very powerful, and will probably replace all currently existing
bootloaders, as it uses a new booting techniqur called the Multiboot
proposal.
Thanks,
====================
Ashutosh S. Rajekar
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From: "Vladimir Z. Nuri" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.misc,comp.unix.advocacy
Subject: Re: TAO: the ultimate OS
Date: 24 Aug 1999 06:37:40 GMT
In comp.os.misc void <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: <cue flamewar>
no fair!!! he started it!!!!
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