Linux-Development-Sys Digest #802, Volume #7 Wed, 26 Apr 00 14:15:40 EDT
Contents:
Re: File formats for bitmap and vector data? (PoD)
Is iptables working for masquerade? (bill davidsen)
Re: 2.3.99pre5 on P5 (bill davidsen)
Re: TCP implementation (bill davidsen)
Re: EPSON Stylus Color 400 Drivers (bill davidsen)
Can I install a new video driver in Corel Linux? (Pipegeek)
Re: File questions (John Jacques)
Re: MICROSOFT IT THRU! MICROSOFT IS THRU! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: MICROSOFT IT THRU! MICROSOFT IS THRU! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Can't find iostream.h... what rpm pagckages am I suppose to install? (altec)
How to replace NIC (bbyeung)
device driver writing ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
boot messages ("Sake")
"Out of memory" after first compile kernel. (Pichet Ratanayant)
Re: How to replace NIC ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: hdc: lost interrupt (Leon Garde)
Re: My experience installing red hat from CD-ROM ("Sake")
Linux system went dead suddenly (yh)
Re: Konfigurowanie RS'a (Takeyasu Wakabayashi)
Re: How legal is it??? (_Steven Chang)
Re: MS caught breaking web sites (Aaron Kulkis)
BEWARE thelinuxstore.com , also known as msquaredsystems.com CUSTOMER ("change")
Re: cli() & sti()... (Villy Kruse)
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From: PoD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: File formats for bitmap and vector data?
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 08:37:18 +0930
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> I am writing a small application which verifies the format of graphics
> files,
> which students then upload to our web site (www.LaserEnlighten.com) for
> laser-cutting. This application needs to import only the most common
> formats of vector and bitmapped graphics on each platform - BMP, compressed
> BMP, and DXF on windoze, PICT and PICT vector on the mac (actually anything
> that QuickTime can read, which is a lot)... and ??? and ??? on Linux (please
> fill in the ???'s!)
>
> Also, if you know of any source code for reading these formats, that would
> be appreciated. I want to make my laser cutting/engraving service, which is
> designed for craftspersons and Industrial Arts/Fine Arts students, available
> to all the major OS's, incl Linux.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Scott Clough
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> www.LaserEnlighten.com - Burning to Learn!
PNG is a popular format these days, and becoming more so.
PPM, PGM, etc. are common in Unix.
gfig seems to be common for vector graphics, but I know nothing about
it.
Cheers, PoD.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (bill davidsen)
Subject: Is iptables working for masquerade?
Date: 25 Apr 2000 22:57:59 GMT
I'm starting to lose my feeling that I'm doing masquerade wrong, and
starting to feel that it isn't working in pre5...
I have a system sitting with one NIC on the net and one inside a tiny
firewall net. I have the tables defined with INPUT policy set to DROP. I
then add universal ACCEPT for INPUT on the firewall side NIC. The
FORWARD policy is set to DROP.
NET
|
______|_______
| (eth1) |
| |
| |
| (eth0) |
|______________| ________
|_________________| node B |
| |________|
Private Net
This all works just fine. Then I tried to ping the external, and got
no response, and added accept of 'ping' and 'echo-reply' packets. And
that worked.
At this point I was fairly happy, and started to enable masquerading:
1 - ACCEPT packets from nodeB in FORWARD
2 - ACCEPT packets to nodeB in FORWARD (I'm not sure this is
needed)
3 - Add MASQUERADE to the POSTROUTING 'nat' table, for packets
from nodeB.
4 - Add LOG to packets in PREROUTING from nodeB
5 - Add LOG to packets on POSTROUTING (everywhere)
6 - set the routing on nodeB to use nodeA as a router
Then I tried ping, telnet, etc from nodeB.
I reread the man page, decided that *maybe* masquerade didn't work from
a fixed IP address. So I changed from MASQUERADE to SNAT, which I really
would like to avoid, since I have to specify a different source address
for each outgoing NIC, I think. There will eventually but more, and some
dialup lines, so I'd like it to work like masquerade in ipchains.
This worked exactly like MASQUERADE, which is to say not at all. I saw
the packet come in, I saw it in PREROUTING, I saw it in POSTROUTING, but
I didn't see it come out of the net-side NIC. I tried pinging outside
addresses, and that worked fine.
I then added logging of *any* packet from the remote host, in hopes
that I was missing something in unmasquerading it. Didn't seem so. So
here is the way I have it configured, this one for MASQUERADE. I will
pass on posting the logs first time, as they are very long lines and
need to be edited heavily to be even slightly readable.
================ iptables -L -v -n
Chain INPUT (policy DROP 0 packets, 0 bytes)
pkts bytes target prot opt in out source destination
2914 274K ACCEPT all -- eth0 * 0.0.0.0/0 0.0.0.0/0
1 84 LOG all -- * * 192.160.13.6 0.0.0.0/0
LOG flags 6 level 7 prefix `Fox:'
1 84 LOG icmp -- eth1 * 0.0.0.0/0 0.0.0.0/0
LOG flags 4 level 7 prefix `ICMP trace '
0 0 ACCEPT icmp -- eth1 * 0.0.0.0/0 0.0.0.0/0
icmp type 8
1 84 ACCEPT icmp -- eth1 * 0.0.0.0/0 0.0.0.0/0
icmp type 0
Chain FORWARD (policy DROP 2 packets, 168 bytes)
pkts bytes target prot opt in out source destination
2 168 ACCEPT all -- * * 192.168.240.86 0.0.0.0/0
Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT 518 packets, 47626 bytes)
pkts bytes target prot opt in out source destination
1 84 LOG all -- * * 0.0.0.0/0 192.160.13.6
LOG flags 6 level 7 prefix `Out:'
================ iptables -L -v -n -t nat
Chain PREROUTING (policy ACCEPT 314 packets, 55446 bytes)
pkts bytes target prot opt in out source destination
2 168 LOG all -- * * 192.168.240.86 0.0.0.0/0
LOG flags 6 level 7 prefix `PreR:'
Chain POSTROUTING (policy ACCEPT 9 packets, 664 bytes)
pkts bytes target prot opt in out source destination
2 168 MASQUERADE all -- * * 192.168.240.86 0.0.0.0/0
MASQUERADE
9 664 LOG all -- * * 0.0.0.0/0 0.0.0.0/0
LOG flags 6 level 7 prefix `PostR:'
Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT 9 packets, 664 bytes)
pkts bytes target prot opt in out source destination
Is --state implemented? I couldn't get the obvious to parse, and until
I get masq packets going out it's not a problem.
Fails: iptables -A INPUT -i eth1 -p tcp --state ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT
I tried adding -t options, moving the state to the end of the command,
etc, but I didn't chase it. Good project while watching a bad movie ;-)
If anyone has any info I will have another machine I can use for test
later this week. Obviously without -C this has to be a toy, testing your
rules by seeing if you get hacked is not desirable...
--
bill davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CTO, TMR Associates, Inc
"Doing interesting things with little computers since 1979"(tm)
The hardest test of maturity is knowing the difference between
resisting temptation and missing a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (bill davidsen)
Subject: Re: 2.3.99pre5 on P5
Date: 25 Apr 2000 23:03:38 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, F. Heitkamp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
|
| I've tried 2.3.99pre5 on my Tyan Tomcat III with
| 200MMX P5. When using Lilo I get "No setup signature
| found". When booting from a floppy I get registers
| dumping in a column down the left side of the screen.
| Some previous kernels booted. All the latest kernels
| give the "No setup signature found". This is using
| lilo 21. Some of the less recent 2.3 kernels seem
| to work fine on my machine.
Install LILO in the 1st partition instead of MBR. Make that partition
active (on mine it's the /boot). You can also use a dumb boot floppy,
but not a lilo boot floppy. I'd love to know why myself, but I did get
mine working, it's my first SMP test machine for new kernel and
distribution releases.
--
bill davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CTO, TMR Associates, Inc
"Doing interesting things with little computers since 1979"(tm)
The hardest test of maturity is knowing the difference between
resisting temptation and missing a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (bill davidsen)
Subject: Re: TCP implementation
Date: 25 Apr 2000 23:17:52 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Kaz Kylheku <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| Also, the version of TCP depends on your kernel, not on Red Hat. Red Hat only
| packages the free software and puts it on a CD ROM. If you are running, say,
| kernel 2.2.12, you have the same TCP stack as a Debian, SuSE or Slackware user
| who is also running kernel 2.2.12.
I think you'll find that RH uses a patches kernel. I doubt that the
TCP is totally different, but it wouldn't surprise me to find RH has
made changes in whatever kernel they might ship with a release.
Look at patches on their web site.
--
bill davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CTO, TMR Associates, Inc
"Doing interesting things with little computers since 1979"(tm)
The hardest test of maturity is knowing the difference between
resisting temptation and missing a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (bill davidsen)
Subject: Re: EPSON Stylus Color 400 Drivers
Date: 25 Apr 2000 23:22:28 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Pipegeek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| Hi. I am new to this group, and to Linux. I am lowest of the low, vilest of
| the vile- worst than a script kiddie- I actually use Windows 98 (shoot me
| please). I am intent on getting rid of it, but I know very little about Linux
| (read: nothing). I intend to take courses, but that can't do everything. But,
| needless to say, I am in no shape to write drivers for my printer. Has anyone
| else? This is, as written in the subject, an EPSON Stylus Color 400, connected
| to a parallel port. I intend on buying Corel Linux (for simplicity's sake),
| and can't find any mention of my printer in their "supported hardware" Acrobat
| file. So if anyone could give me a hand, any help would be appreciated.
What do you mean by "supported" here? If you send data to the printer
with the lpr command it will go. If you want support for Postscript it's
in the package, although probably not enabled by default.
Not an issue, at worst you have to post another question about how to
set up the Postscript filter. Of course if you have programs which
generate output for other printers you are on your own, just as you are
in Win9x with a program which generates non-portable code.
--
bill davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CTO, TMR Associates, Inc
"Doing interesting things with little computers since 1979"(tm)
The hardest test of maturity is knowing the difference between
resisting temptation and missing a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pipegeek)
Subject: Can I install a new video driver in Corel Linux?
Date: 25 Apr 2000 23:35:43 GMT
Corel Linux does not support my video card by default (Voodoo Banshee), but I
have found a driver online for it. However, I have heard Corel Linux relies
heavily on hardware autodetection. If the driver is not there during the
install, can it be used afterwards (i e, can I add a device without
autodetection)?
PTR
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From: John Jacques <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: File questions
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 23:58:57 GMT
http://www.aie.nl/software_doc/tlk-html/node102.html#SECTION001120000000000000000
I read this about the Linux VFS (Virtual File System). Am I interpreting
the article correctly as saying all inode and directory information is
stored in RAM once it is accessed?
I'm currently using mySQL with my own C program to access a database. I
need more control over the data. I was thinking I can store the data
like this:
database/table/fieldname/record#/data
Now that I know this will not work I am thinking of this:
database/table/fieldname_a/data
database/table/fieldname_b/data
database/table/fieldname_c/data
database/table/fieldname_d/data
database/table/fieldname_e/data
database/table/fieldname_f/record#/data (this is unlimited binary/text
records)
Any thoughts on this idea? There is too much data for my current
configuration to handle, so, I have to dump the database server and
access the data from my C program. (takes 20 minutes to process the 1st
and simplest step because it is using most of my 2Gig swap partition).
In a few months I'm planning on having a 10 gig database spread over 5
2Gig partitions. The incoming data is read from a separate hard drive,
processed and saved on yet another drive, read into the master database,
and then undergoes 20hours/6days a week manipulation and processing. The
master database keeps the most important information and archives what
it needs to to maintain the 10 gig limit.
John
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.security,comp.os.ms-windows.networking.tcp-ip,alt.conspiracy.area51
Subject: Re: MICROSOFT IT THRU! MICROSOFT IS THRU!
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 19:27:42 -0600
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Charlie Ebert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> MICROSOFT IS THRU!
> MICROSOFT IS THRU!
> MICROSOFT IS THRU!
> MICROSOFT IS THRU!
> MICROSOFT IS THRU!
> MICROSOFT IS THRU!
>
>
> TELL EVERYONE!
>
> Microsoft has been forced to admit they created secret back doors to every
> computer
> system they sold out the DOOR!
>
> This MEANS to the STUPID and IGNORANT that the U.S. Government has ACCESS
> to every MS equipped machine in the world and therefore they
> CAN NOT BE TRUSTED ANYMORE!
>
> Charlie
>
>
Whats all this brew-ha-ha?
(...brew-ha-ha?)
ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha.....
Your talk is just as bloated as the bloatation
classes used in your gui dos shells.
Don't y'all have some re-installations and/or re-boots
and/or code re-use(s) to do?
Leave Linux alone....
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: MICROSOFT IT THRU! MICROSOFT IS THRU!
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 01:57:33 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Charlie Ebert
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> MICROSOFT IS THRU!
> MICROSOFT IS THRU!
> MICROSOFT IS THRU!
> MICROSOFT IS THRU!
[snip ad nauseum]
... and so is IBM. And COBOL. And BASIC. And UNIX.
They're all through. Finished. Kaput. Yesteryear's technology.
So... how come they're all still running big chunks of our economy? And
enjoying record growth?
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Subject: Can't find iostream.h... what rpm pagckages am I suppose to install?
From: altec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 19:22:29 -0700
I have installed the gcc version 2.something
for C and C++ and the preprocessors
but when I tried to compile a c++ program that uses iostream.h
the compiler can't find it!
where should I look for it?
it is not in my linux partitions.
but i have iostream.h from Microsoft VC++
thanks for your help!
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From: bbyeung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How to replace NIC
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 02:30:23 GMT
I have an NIC that needs to be replaced. The problem is that I'm not sure
whether the kernal running on my machine support the new drivers. In
fact, the OS was setup by someone before me and I can't find any
reference. Please advise how can I check my kernal version.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: device driver writing
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 02:28:39 GMT
Hi,
Is this the right list to discuss how to write device driver of linux ?
If not, would someone kindly point out where is the right list ? - I
have searched through, end found the list.
Thanks in advance.
Rgds,
Nixien
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From: "Sake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: boot messages
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 23:01:10 -0400
Hi there,
I'm integrating a Linux application box. I don't want the user
to see those kernel booting messages every time they turn on the
machine. Is there a way to divert those messages ? Idealy, I would
like to be able to put up a grafic logo on the screen when the machine
is booting (I mean before the log-on screen)
e-mail response is greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Pichet Ratanayant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: "Out of memory" after first compile kernel.
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 09:47:38 +0700
Hi All,
I am compile kernel follow this step,
make dep
make clean
make bzImage
After that, I am use "linuxconf" to install kernel, reboot system and
see following message,
Out of memory
-- System halted
My environment are
Red Hat Linux 6.0, Pentium II 450, 128M byte of RAM.
Please help me to fix this problem.
Thank in advance.
Pichet R.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: How to replace NIC
Date: 26 Apr 2000 03:21:54 GMT
It's not the kernel version that matters (although you can check it with
'uname -a'). It's whether or not the driver is compiled in (or you have
the module built).
If you need help with that, e-mail me. It's far easier to walk someone
through the ins and outs via e-mail than on here. Here's a short version
anyway, though:
cd /usr/src/linux
make config
make dep ; make clean
make zImage
make modules
make modules_install
make zlilo
Reboot.
Reboot again (all those pesky "unresolved symbols" messages should go away
the second time).
--J
bbyeung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: I have an NIC that needs to be replaced. The problem is that I'm not sure
: whether the kernal running on my machine support the new drivers. In
: fact, the OS was setup by someone before me and I can't find any
: reference. Please advise how can I check my kernal version.
: --
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From: Leon Garde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: hdc: lost interrupt
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.hardware,linux.dev.config,linux.dev.c-programming,linux.dev.kernel,uk.comp.os.linux
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 26 Apr 2000 13:42:10 EST
In comp.os.linux.hardware BP <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all,
> I install two IDE disk (6,4 Go each) on /dev/hdc and /dev/hdd - (with 4
> partitions on each disk: 512Mo, 2Go, 3Go and a swap partition)
> When I try to access hdd disk (with cpio cde for example), system crash with
> "hdc: lost interrupt" message - the only way is to reboot the system ... I
> 've change partitions size (<1Go), bios configuration (ide block mode,
> LBA/Normal cfg), but nothing change, I can't have a full access to the
> second drive
> Does anybody knows what goes wrong ?
the disks dont want to work together.
solutions:
a. check the drives are configured properly.
master, master with slave present, slave etc.
b. swap hdc for hdd or other swaps as needed.
c. remove the drive(s) . buy one large big drive
leon
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From: "Sake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: My experience installing red hat from CD-ROM
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 00:20:36 -0400
Making a Libux boot disk takes the same amount of time as making a DOS boot
disk with CD support
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Maybe this will save someone some headaches - I tried on two PC's to
install
> red hat 6.1 from the CD-ROM after booting each with a minimal MS-DOS
floppy,
> just enough to access the CD-ROM with MSCDEX and the CD driver... and
> neither Linux install could find the CD-ROM controller (one of which was
> SCSI, and one Creative Labs/Panasonic). So I was quietly cursing Linux,
> when I decided to make a boot floppy from the Linux CD, boot that, and try
> the install - and it WORKED PERFECT ON BOTH MACHINES. (Sorry to yell.)
>
> So even though installing from MS-DOS is outlined in the red hat docs as
the
> next best thing if you can't boot from the CD or from the floppy they give
> you (BTW - my in-box Linux floppy was bad, which is what started this
whole
> adventure), I would not recommend it - make yourself a Linux boot floppy,
I
> think you'll be happier.
>
> Scott Clough
> Clough Labs, LLC
>
> www.LaserEnlighten.com - Burning to Learn!
>
>
>
>
>
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From: yh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux system went dead suddenly
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 05:30:35 GMT
i've encountered this strange "phenomenon" recently on my 2-way linux (with
redhat distri) box. 2-way, coz it's a gateway connected to 2 networks,
with some ipchains rules running. i usually left the box running overnite.
seldom reboot unless i made changes to the sys conf that req'd rebooting.
the strange thing was that the linux system just crashed for unknown reason
to me. it's just posted a screen dump of this messages:
CPU:0
EIP:0010:[<c358fc20>]
EFLAGS: 00010a86
eax: 00000240 ebx: 00000240 ecx: 00000000 edx: b8660cf8
esi: 000005a6 edi: c20d8db8 ebp: c20d8812 esp: c0217d28
ds: 0018 es: 0018 ss: 0018
Process swapper ...blah blah blah
stack: ...blah blah blah...
Call trace: [<c014b2f9>] .... blah blah blah
This system failure occurred to me a few times, i could do anything
besides resetting the system. everytime, the string of nos. are different.
except for the first few set of "Call trace" nos. which have some
similarity pattern in the few occasions.
i tried ping (from another system) to see if there's response, nope, it
just went dead. Have anyone encountered this before? Please enlighten me
if u've encountered anything like that. If u've some ideas or tots to help
me rectify this strange phenomenon, pls pitch feel free to pitch in.
thanks!
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From: Takeyasu Wakabayashi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Konfigurowanie RS'a
Date: 26 Apr 2000 14:49:22 +0900
Adam Orcholski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Czesc
>
> Sorry, ze tak pozno, ale mam. Porty szeregowe konfiguruje sie poleceniem
> 'setserial'. Wszystko jest pieknie opisane w man'ie, wiec nie bede sie
> powtarzal. Jakby co, to krzycz, umowimy sie u ciebie, albo u mnie i
> powalczymy razem. Wydaje mi sie, ze to powinno wystarczyc, do
> zadzialanie tej karty, jesli od strony kompa faktycznie jest
> kompatybilna z RS232.
>
> AO
Problem portu szeregowego? Z kim rozmawiasz?
Tu jest c.o.l.d.s. i jest grupa po angielsku!
--
Takeyasu Wakabayashi
Faculty of Economics, Toyama University
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From: _Steven Chang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.c++,comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: How legal is it???
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 23:47:16 -0700
When you said the "Corps" and the "Big Brother", who are they?
Thanks!
Steven
Blue Shadow wrote:
>
> It is very legal. The corps have been doing it for years. It's
> called 'productivity software'. It's a legal way to spy on your
> employees. Now, in a more mainstream aspect, as long as your 'target'
> gives you the ok to run this little app, no problem. If they don't, then
> you could get into some problems. As for the privacy issue, it violates
> every point of that, but hey! As long as Big Brother and the Corps are
> doing it, why can't you? If you can write it, and package it without
> letting the LUser know about it, then what's the worry?
>
> Under Linux it's OK, but harder, as you may run into firewalls, and other
> server side issues.
>
> Under Win 9x you may get into problems with Micro$oft, but who doesn't.
> If you even look at the licensing agreement wrong you violate it. "Click
> yes to sign over you firstborn, or else the program will not work!"
> Micro$oft sucks.
>
> -Blue Shadow
>
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.security,comp.os.ms-windows.networking.tcp-ip
Subject: Re: MS caught breaking web sites
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 02:50:58 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Alun Jones wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> >
> > Jianmang Li wrote:
> > >
> > > Gary Connors wrote:
> > > >
> > > > in article [EMAIL PROTECTED], laugh at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
> > on
> > > > 4/16/00 1:07 AM:
> > > >
> > > > > Robert,
> > > >
> > > > > And with Linux growing to 35% of all servers and 10% of desktops this
> > year
> > > > > alone
> > > > > (half of those being NT replacements), there won't be much of an
> > audience
> > > > > for any future releases of windows when and if they do make it out.
> > > >
> > > > If its a "NT replacement" is not on the desktop. In the real world, NT is
> > > > not a desktop OS.
> > > I'm always puzzled when people calling Desktop and server. From software
> > > point of view, what is the different. MS had difficulties to let Windows9x
> > > offering network services so it call it Desktop. In Unix world, if you got
> > the
> > > right hardware nobody stop you offering network services from your "Desktop"
> > -
> > > they are the same.
> >
> > Because people from Microsoft land can't imagine the peer-peer model.
>
> I'd say there's a fair level of support in Microsoft's OSs since '95 for
> peer-peer model - it looks like they can imagine more than you're aware of.
> Perhaps if you spent less time building a screen full of signature for a
I add A LINE when I determine that a person's behavior warrants a
blanket
retort to that person's wave of bs...
> one-line throwaway remark, and more time paying attention to the operating
> system whose newsgroups you're cross-pisting to, you might actually have
> something to contribute.
If you focused on my message, rather than my .sig, you would hear the
message.
>
> I can't say that I'm Microsoft's biggest fan, but please, if you're going to
> attack Microsoft, at least attack them for their true, provable,
> shortcomings, rather than just rolling out the same tired old rumours and
> jokes. Otherwise you sound like you're just jumping on the big boy because
> he presents such a huge target.
Name 5 applications in Microsoft land that are based upon a peer-peer
model.
>
> HAND.
>
> Alun.
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Subject: BEWARE thelinuxstore.com , also known as msquaredsystems.com CUSTOMER
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 02:37:34 -0400
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Villy Kruse)
Subject: Re: cli() & sti()...
Date: 26 Apr 2000 07:15:08 GMT
On Mon, 17 Apr 2000 01:50:38 GMT,
Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Badrinath Venkatachari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> Hi,
>> If I happen to have this pair cli() to disable interrupts and sti() to
>> enable interrupts, then can it be assumed that the process cannot be
>> preempted while executing code in between them ???
>>
>> cli()
>>
>> /* code comes here */
>>
>> sti()
>
>make sure you consider SMP too.
>
Exactly. For a multiprocessor system you need a spinlock in addition to
masking the interrupt to truely protect that piece of code from being
re-entetered by the other processor getting an interrupt. Masking an
interrupt only works on the current processor and has no effect on any
of the other processors.
Villy
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