Linux-Development-Sys Digest #943, Volume #7      Fri, 9 Jun 00 14:13:13 EDT

Contents:
  CBB5055C Visio for Linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: PCI utils question... (Adrian Cox)
  Re: how to add more than 8 loop devices ? (Josef Moellers)
  Re: HELP: SIMPLE IRQ Routine Crashes (Andreas Rottmann)
  Re: how to add more than 8 loop devices ? (Karsten Laskowski)
  __init function (Arnaud Westenberg)
  Re: linux vs unix? (Johan Kullstam)
  Re: how to add more than 8 loop devices ? (Josef Moellers)
  Re: how to add more than 8 loop devices ? (Karsten Laskowski)
  fileoperation read in 2.4.0-test1 (Wolfram Faul)
  Re: fileoperation read in 2.4.0-test1 (Arnaud Westenberg)
  Re: linux vs unix? (Kaz Kylheku)
  network driver using AMCC S5933 panic ! (Tom)
  Re: how to add more than 8 loop devices ? (Johan Kullstam)
  Re: how to add more than 8 loop devices ? (Karsten Laskowski)
  how can I get IDE doc ?? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  guile-gtk (Stefan Soos)
  System.map information (Giorgio Di Natale)
  Re: how to add more than 8 loop devices ? (Johan Kullstam)
  ramdisk/diskless linux boot ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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From: Adrian Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: PCI utils question...
Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 12:07:22 +0100
Reply-To: Adrian Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

"Paul D. Smith" wrote:
> 
> I have a Symphony PCI wireless network card, and I noticed that its IRQ
> was being shared with my soundcard:
[...]
>     5:      46372          XT-PIC  EMU10K1, eth0
[...]
> Now, I know PCI cards are supposed to be able to share IRQs but I have
> so many free IRQs I thought I'd try to convince the Symphony to use a
> different one.

To do that you have to plug the cards into different slots. The sound
card and the ethernet are most likely on the same IRQ because the
interrupt lines of those slots are physically wired together, and
nothing you type can change that. 

The only other thing that might make a difference is checking in the
BIOS, to see if it has allocated the four PCI interrupts to fewer than
four IRQs. This is unlikely.

> So, I tried to run setpci ... interrupt_line=0b.  When I use setpci
> ... interrupt_line to vie the value, it looks correct:
[...]

The interrupt line field is a scratchpad field the BIOS uses to pass
information to the kernel. Changing the value doesn't change the wiring.

- Adrian Cox, AG Electronics

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From: Josef Moellers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how to add more than 8 loop devices ?
Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 13:37:27 +0200

Karsten Laskowski wrote:
> =

> Hello,
> =

> I would like to use our Linux (SuSE 6.4, 2.2.14)  as a CDROM Server.
> I copied the raw data from every CD on the harddisk as one image and
> mounted it with the option -o loop=3D/dev/loop1 - /dev/loop7.
> =

> White "mknod -m660 /dev/loop8 b 7 8", and "chmod disk loop8"  i added
> one more loop device.: When I try to mount a cdimage with this loop
> device, the device is not found.
> =

> I searched in some mailing archives and found an advice to increase the=

> number for MAX_LOOP (at line 50-60) from 8 to 32 or 64 in the file
> /usr/src/linux/drivers/block/loop.c I compiled the kernel and the
> modules (loop as module). But it's still the same effect, I can only
> access 8 loop devices, the next is not found. Are there other
> dependencies in the code  that restrict to the use of 8 loop devices ?
> How can I get more loop devices, what's the maximum number ?

You need to modify the drivers/block/loop.c file and change the #define
MAX_LOOP 8 definition.

-- =

Josef M=F6llers
Fujitsu Siemens Computers
SHV Server DS 1

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From: Andreas Rottmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: HELP: SIMPLE IRQ Routine Crashes
Date: 09 Jun 2000 13:49:42 +0200

Michel Bardiaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> > fu^%#%^&* I meant the handler name is already a pointer! sh&^%&($(&^t
> 
> How can PERL code be relevant here? :-)
>
LOL!

Andy
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From: Karsten Laskowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how to add more than 8 loop devices ?
Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 14:14:57 +0200



Josef Moellers schrieb:

> Karsten Laskowski wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I would like to use our Linux (SuSE 6.4, 2.2.14)  as a CDROM Server.
> > I copied the raw data from every CD on the harddisk as one image and
> > mounted it with the option -o loop=/dev/loop1 - /dev/loop7.
> >
> > White "mknod -m660 /dev/loop8 b 7 8", and "chmod disk loop8"  i added
> > one more loop device.: When I try to mount a cdimage with this loop
> > device, the device is not found.
> >
> > I searched in some mailing archives and found an advice to increase the
> > number for MAX_LOOP (at line 50-60) from 8 to 32 or 64 in the file
> > /usr/src/linux/drivers/block/loop.c I compiled the kernel and the
> > modules (loop as module). But it's still the same effect, I can only
> > access 8 loop devices, the next is not found. Are there other
> > dependencies in the code  that restrict to the use of 8 loop devices ?
> > How can I get more loop devices, what's the maximum number ?
>
> You need to modify the drivers/block/loop.c file and change the #define
> MAX_LOOP 8 definition.
>
> --
> Josef M�llers
> Fujitsu Siemens Computers
> SHV Server DS 1

  I did the change to MAX_LOOP 32 and made a "make dep clean bzImage",
afterwards a "make modules". There are still only 8  loopdevices to use.

Thanks,
K. Laskowski



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Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 13:21:19 +0200
From: Arnaud Westenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: __init function

Hi all,

I would like to get rid of initialization code in my loadable module,
however __init only works when the code is linked into the kernel.

Are there any other ways to get rid of my initialization code?

Thanks

Regards Arnaud

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From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux vs unix?
Date: 09 Jun 2000 08:46:41 -0400

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> hello friends,
>              can anyone list some top differences between linux
> and unix. i am not looking in commercial terms but in technical terms
> like at the kernel level. pleeease

the difference is 100% legalism.  there is no technical difference.
the various unix implementations are as far apart from each other as
they are to linux.

-- 
johan kullstam l72t00052

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From: Josef Moellers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how to add more than 8 loop devices ?
Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 15:14:22 +0200

Karsten Laskowski wrote:
> =

> Josef Moellers schrieb:
> =

> > Karsten Laskowski wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I would like to use our Linux (SuSE 6.4, 2.2.14)  as a CDROM Server=
=2E
> > > I copied the raw data from every CD on the harddisk as one image an=
d
> > > mounted it with the option -o loop=3D/dev/loop1 - /dev/loop7.
> > >
> > > White "mknod -m660 /dev/loop8 b 7 8", and "chmod disk loop8"  i add=
ed
> > > one more loop device.: When I try to mount a cdimage with this loop=

> > > device, the device is not found.
> > >
> > > I searched in some mailing archives and found an advice to increase=
 the
> > > number for MAX_LOOP (at line 50-60) from 8 to 32 or 64 in the file
> > > /usr/src/linux/drivers/block/loop.c I compiled the kernel and the
> > > modules (loop as module). But it's still the same effect, I can onl=
y
> > > access 8 loop devices, the next is not found. Are there other
> > > dependencies in the code  that restrict to the use of 8 loop device=
s ?
> > > How can I get more loop devices, what's the maximum number ?
> >
> > You need to modify the drivers/block/loop.c file and change the #defi=
ne
> > MAX_LOOP 8 definition.
> >
> > --
> > Josef M=F6llers
> > Fujitsu Siemens Computers
> > SHV Server DS 1
> =

>   I did the change to MAX_LOOP 32 and made a "make dep clean bzImage",
> afterwards a "make modules". There are still only 8  loopdevices to use=
=2E

Perhaps you forgot "make modules_install"

A few days ago, a colleague asked exactly the same question, I gave him
exactly the same advice, and he got the additional loop devices, so it
should work.


-- =

Josef M=F6llers
Fujitsu Siemens Computers
SHV Server DS 1

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From: Karsten Laskowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how to add more than 8 loop devices ?
Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 15:29:18 +0200



Josef Moellers schrieb:

> Karsten Laskowski wrote:
> >
> > Josef Moellers schrieb:
> >
> > > Karsten Laskowski wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > I would like to use our Linux (SuSE 6.4, 2.2.14)  as a CDROM Server.
> > > > I copied the raw data from every CD on the harddisk as one image and
> > > > mounted it with the option -o loop=/dev/loop1 - /dev/loop7.
> > > >
> > > > White "mknod -m660 /dev/loop8 b 7 8", and "chmod disk loop8"  i added
> > > > one more loop device.: When I try to mount a cdimage with this loop
> > > > device, the device is not found.
> > > >
> > > > I searched in some mailing archives and found an advice to increase the
> > > > number for MAX_LOOP (at line 50-60) from 8 to 32 or 64 in the file
> > > > /usr/src/linux/drivers/block/loop.c I compiled the kernel and the
> > > > modules (loop as module). But it's still the same effect, I can only
> > > > access 8 loop devices, the next is not found. Are there other
> > > > dependencies in the code  that restrict to the use of 8 loop devices ?
> > > > How can I get more loop devices, what's the maximum number ?
> > >
> > > You need to modify the drivers/block/loop.c file and change the #define
> > > MAX_LOOP 8 definition.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Josef M�llers
> > > Fujitsu Siemens Computers
> > > SHV Server DS 1
> >
> >   I did the change to MAX_LOOP 32 and made a "make dep clean bzImage",
> > afterwards a "make modules". There are still only 8  loopdevices to use.
>
> Perhaps you forgot "make modules_install"
>
> A few days ago, a colleague asked exactly the same question, I gave him
> exactly the same advice, and he got the additional loop devices, so it
> should work.
>
> --
> Josef M�llers
> Fujitsu Siemens Computers
> SHV Server DS 1

  Your right, I forgot the last important step. Have a nice weekend.
Thanks K. Laskowski


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From: Wolfram Faul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: fileoperation read in 2.4.0-test1
Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 15:29:43 +0200

Hallo,
I am programming a device driver. I want to implement more than one
device and distinguish them with a different minor number. That�s fine
up to kernel 2.1.xx or later. Now the prototyp of the read function has
changed.

The old one:
long read(struct inode *inode, struct file *, char *, unsigned long);

it�s very easy to get the minor number
MINOR(inode->i_rdev)

The new one:

ssize_t  read (struct file *, char *, size_t, loff_t *);

As you can see there is no struct inode * any more.  But where can i get
the minor number now???


Thanks for help

    Wolfram


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Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 13:59:29 +0200
From: Arnaud Westenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: fileoperation read in 2.4.0-test1

Wolfram Faul wrote:

> As you can see there is no struct inode * any more.  But where can i get
> the minor number now???

file->f_dentry->d_inode->i_rdev

Arnaud

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kaz Kylheku)
Subject: Re: linux vs unix?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 13:58:58 GMT

On Fri, 09 Jun 2000 08:20:44 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>hello friends,
>             can anyone list some top differences between linux
>and unix. i am not looking in commercial terms but in technical terms
>like at the kernel level. pleeease
>thanks
>gowtham

Linux is software.

UNIX is a set of standards owned by The Open Group;
see http://www.unix-systems.org/single_unix_specification_v2/

A software system which implements these standards can be certified
by The Open Group and then its vendor can use the UNIX trademark.

-- 
#exclude <windows.h>

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From: Tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: network driver using AMCC S5933 panic !
Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 16:38:37 +0200

Hi,
I wrote a network device driver which workes fine under linux 2.0.x.
Now I recompiled the driver and run it under 2.2.14.
The initialization is still fine (probing the PCI-card, initialize the
dev-structure, ...).
The problem arises, when I run the ifconfig command which calls the
drivers open function.
The whole system dies!
It seems to me, that the system panic has something to do with the
irq_request call and the enabling of the AMCC S5933 PCI_READ_COMPLETE
interrupt capability.
Because:
If I dont enable the PCI_READ_COMPLETE interrupt then the open function
performs fine.
On the other hand, when I enable the PCI_READ_COMPLETE capability and
doesn=B4t call request_irq the open function performs fine as well. The
problem arises when I do both, request_irq AND interrupt on PCI read
complete. =


The strange thing is, that the driver performes well under 2.0.xx. =

First I thought, that the interrupt handler is responsible for the
crash. But after some modifications
(the handler is very simple now and doesn=B4t access any data structures)=

I guess the problem is somewhere else.

I get the following Oops messages, before the system hangs:

Oops: 0002
CPU:    0
EIP:    0010:[<c4812a2d>]
EFLAGS: 00010282
eax: c0928000   ebx: 00000000   ecx: 0000006c   edx: 00000000
esi: 00889400   edi: c3b80260   ebp: c04e3d08   esp: c04e3ce8
ds: 0018   es: 0018   ss: 0018
Process ifconfig (pid: 228, process nr: 41, stackpage=3Dc04e3000)
Stack: 0000000b c04e3dd8 c3c26080 08051380 c3b80344 60346038 00000014
c0928000
       c04e3d90 c0108d29 0000000b c3b80260 c04e3d90 c04e3d98 0000000b
c0200160
       c08d4000 c04e3d88 00000008 c0953f40 c04e3d50 c0108a4a 0000000b
c04e3d90
Call Trace: [<c0108d29>] [<c0108a4a>] [<c0108e72>] [<c0108a88>]
[<c0108f2c>] [<c4812940>] [<c4812940>]
            [<c0108fa7>] [<c01b6c1f>] [<c4812513>] [<c4812940>]
[<c481326d>] [<c01787b9>] [<c016149a>]               [<c015dfe8>]
[<c015eaff>] [<c015df49>] [<c0175edb>] [<c0175db9>] [<c01778d6>]
[<c012a2b8>]               [<c015ab3f>] [<c010d13f>] [<c012c277>]
[<c0107bad>] [<c0107a74>]
Code: ff 4a 70 0f 94 c0 84 c0 74 0c 83 c4 f4 52 e8 08 a2 94 fb 83
Aiee, killing interrupt handler
Scheduling in interrupt
Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual address
00000000
current->tss.cr3 =3D 00101000, %cr3 =3D 00101000
*pde =3D 00000000
Oops: 0002
CPU:    0
EIP:    0010:[<c010f329>]
EFLAGS: 00010292
eax: 00000018   ebx: 00000000   ecx: c01f02fd   edx: c0740000
esi: c04e2000   edi: 00000100   ebp: c04e3bfc   esp: c04e3bdc
ds: 0018   es: 0018   ss: 0018
Process ifconfig (pid: 228, process nr: 41, stackpage=3Dc04e3000)
Stack: 00000004 c01158ca 00000282 c0300a80 00000100 00000008 c04e2000
c0300a80
       00000008 c011597c c04e3cac 00000070 c3b80260 c04e2000 c01f02fd
c0740000
       c0300b9c c04e2000 c04e2000 00000001 00000018 c0107fcb 0000000b
c0107fc1
Call Trace: [<c01158ca>] [<c011597c>] [<c0107fcb>] [<c0107fc1>]
[<c01bb020>] [<c010d311>] [<c01bb06e>]
            [<c0111ee0>] ...

Thanks a lot for your help.

Tom Meier    [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how to add more than 8 loop devices ?
Date: 09 Jun 2000 10:45:05 -0400

Karsten Laskowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hello,
> 
> I would like to use our Linux (SuSE 6.4, 2.2.14)  as a CDROM Server.
> I copied the raw data from every CD on the harddisk as one image and
> mounted it with the option -o loop=/dev/loop1 - /dev/loop7.

this may seem like a stupid question, but i am not getting something.

why not just mount the cd-rom and copy the filesystem over to the hard
drive with tar?

-- 
johan kullstam l72t00052

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From: Karsten Laskowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how to add more than 8 loop devices ?
Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 17:27:59 +0200



Johan Kullstam schrieb:

> Karsten Laskowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > I would like to use our Linux (SuSE 6.4, 2.2.14)  as a CDROM Server.
> > I copied the raw data from every CD on the harddisk as one image and
> > mounted it with the option -o loop=/dev/loop1 - /dev/loop7.
>
> this may seem like a stupid question, but i am not getting something.
>
> why not just mount the cd-rom and copy the filesystem over to the hard
> drive with tar?
>
> --
> johan kullstam l72t00052

  I copied the cdroms without mounting, just by "cp /dev/hdd
/images/cdromxx". Handling is very easy, only 1 big file per cdrom. By
mounting loopback and pointing on the mountpoint with samba, you have a
cheap jukebox and high perfomance when accessing the "cdroms". Why do you
want to use tar, or is it a better way to archiv cdroms which have to be
accessed by win... clients?

Karsten Laskowski


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: how can I get IDE doc ??
Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 16:39:25 GMT

Hello,
could you help me find some good doc about how IDE interfaces work ?
I am thinking of coding an extension to IDE, but I can't find any good
doc on how it works. I guess you guys know how to find that sort of
stuff ?

Any ideas ?

thanks

L@urent


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From: Stefan Soos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: guile-gtk
Date: 09 Jun 2000 19:01:39 +0200


Hello,

is there out someone who could send me sample code of drawing 
under guile-gtk.
I searched the net for resources, with no success.
I subscribed to the mailing list but it seems to be down.
The metaspline demo is something strange, I don't understand it.

Please, help me.

Thanks in advance,

Stefan

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From: Giorgio Di Natale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: System.map information
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 19:08:37 +0200

Hi everybody,

 I need a help: I'm developing a fault injector for simulating the space
environment (where the probability of a memory bit flipping is very high).
I'm looking at the /boot/System.map file but I cannot understand the
meaning of the first character after the memory address. I found the
characters d, D, B, and T.
Please, can you help me?

Thank you

Giorgio 


                      __\/__ 
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                  |\| (o)(o) |/| 
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# Giorgio Di Natale                         # 
# PhD Student                               # 
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From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how to add more than 8 loop devices ?
Date: 09 Jun 2000 13:00:57 -0400

Karsten Laskowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Johan Kullstam schrieb:
> 
> > Karsten Laskowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I would like to use our Linux (SuSE 6.4, 2.2.14)  as a CDROM Server.
> > > I copied the raw data from every CD on the harddisk as one image and
> > > mounted it with the option -o loop=/dev/loop1 - /dev/loop7.
> >
> > this may seem like a stupid question, but i am not getting something.
> >
> > why not just mount the cd-rom and copy the filesystem over to the hard
> > drive with tar?
> >
> > --
> > johan kullstam l72t00052
> 
>   I copied the cdroms without mounting, just by "cp /dev/hdd
> /images/cdromxx". Handling is very easy, only 1 big file per cdrom. By
> mounting loopback

so the difference is this

your way

copy raw image to hard disk
mount it on a loopback

my way

mount cdrom
copy filesystem to hard disk

(there may be a filesystem extractor (mtools?) that can read the raw
iso9660 cdrom, interpret it and extract filesystem to hard disk
without needing to mount it.)

it seems about as much work either way.  either way you have to mount
the parition to samba.

your way requires loopback devices, which you say you've run out of.

my way doesn't.  however, it doesn't have the raw iso9660 lying about
if that is of interest in and of itself.

> and pointing on the mountpoint with samba, you have a
> cheap jukebox and high perfomance when accessing the "cdroms". Why do you
> want to use tar,

tar is the canonical filetree copier

cd /destdir
(cd /sourcedir ; tar cf - .) | tar xpf -

i you like, use cp -r or whatever instead.

> or is it a better way to archiv cdroms which have to be
> accessed by win... clients?
> 
> Karsten Laskowski
> 

-- 
johan kullstam l72t00052

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: ramdisk/diskless linux boot
Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 17:06:26 GMT

I am trying to understand some things about ramdisks and how they are
supposed to dynamically grow.  I have an embedded PowerPC board with
128M of memory that I am booting over a network.  It will remain totally
diskless.  I have built a ramdisk image and have that basically working.

The problem is the ramdisk/filesystem size.  My initial ramdisk image
was created at about 3MB.  I'm guessing that I am hitting the limit on
this filesystem, and that it does not dynamically grow even though the
ramdisk might.  Am I stuck with a fixed size filesystem?  If I want to
allow my root (and only) filesystem to get to 24 Megs do I need to
create a 24 Meg (mostly empty) filesystem first?  I know that it would
probably compress very well -- which will be good for the network
download, but does it then consume 24 Megs when it is unzipped?

If anyone can provide pointers on where to read up on this, I would
appreciate it.  I have read the rd.c source file and the ramdisk.txt and
initrd.txt files in /usr/src/linux/Documentation.

I'm also curious why I can't do a 'df' from my shell and see /dev/ram
mounted as root.  I do have a pretty minimal configuration, and my init
task is simply a shell.  But I do have basic network connections working
and things seem to be functional.

thanks,
bob

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Staff Engineer
Southwest Research Institute


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