Linux-Development-Sys Digest #625, Volume #8 Tue, 10 Apr 01 12:13:15 EDT
Contents:
Re: Need your recommendation for a full-featured text editor (Ken Tough)
Re: how to modify dynamic lib ? (Markus Fischer)
Re: Suppressing Redhat bootup output ("Gene Heskett")
what is the real size of setup.S (the code for booting on i386) ("hushui")
Via + Maxtor + kernel 2.4.3 = crash? ("Edwin Lau")
Re: how to modify dynamic lib ? (Jonathan Buzzard)
Re: Need your recommendation for a full-featured text editor ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Need your recommendation for a full-featured text editor ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Need your recommendation for a full-featured text editor ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Virtual Terminal ("Marcello Botrugno")
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From: Ken Tough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
24hoursupport.helpdesk,alt.comp.shareware.programmer,comp.editors,comp.lang.java.help,comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.lang.java.softwaretools,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Need your recommendation for a full-featured text editor
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 10:27:50 -0400
Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 12. HTML toolbar (I know I should know all the tags but I just cannot
>> remember them all)
>try VIM. Does everything EXCEPT #12.
You could use macro definitions for that, too.
I am also extremely impressed by gvim.
--
Ken Tough
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From: Markus Fischer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how to modify dynamic lib ?
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 16:35:08 +0200
after further reading I found an example in the HOW TO's :
gcc -shared -Wl,-soname,your_soname \
-o library_name file_list library_list
gcc -fPIC -g -c -Wall a.c
gcc -fPIC -g -c -Wall b.c
gcc -shared -Wl,-soname,libmystuff.so.1 \
-o libmystuff.so.1.0.1 a.o b.o -lc
Markus Fischer wrote:
>
> this seems to do it,
> however it looks like I am having this very small problem ;-)
>
> bender:~/sockets # export LD_PRELOAD=/root/malloc_example/intercept.so; export
>LD_PRELOAD
> bender:~/sockets # ls
> ls: error while loading shared libraries: /root/malloc_example/intercept.so: ELF
>file's phentsize
> not the expected size
>
> I used
>
> gcc -shared (-fPIC) -o intercept.so -c intercept.c
>
> it's a Suse Linux libc system
>
> thanks for help,
> Markus
>
> Jonathan Buzzard wrote:
> >
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > Markus Fischer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > >
> > > I would like to replace a function in a dynamic lib.
> > >
> > > assumed I have a mylibc.so.6 file and nm
> > > shows me the functions in the library.
> > >
> > > how can I compile and add/replace the function in
> > > the original dynamic library ?
> > >
> >
> > Write the new function, compile into a new library and use LD_PRELOAD
> >
> > JAB.
> >
> > --
> > Jonathan A. Buzzard Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Northumberland, United Kingdom. Tel: +44(0)1661-832195
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Date: 10 Apr 2001 10:24:29 -0500
From: "Gene Heskett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Suppressing Redhat bootup output
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup
Gene Heskett sends Greetings to Joe Pfeiffer;
JP> "Johnny A. Solbu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>> A significant number of Linux users do NOT leave their=20
>> computers powered ON when they are done computing.
>> Also a significant number of Linux users does not run a server
>> or have a 24/7 connection. They don't even have a LAN.
>>
>> So shutting down their boxes is as natural as eating every day.
JP> Dunno... it seems to me that the population of users who are running
JP> systems that go up/down as you describe, but who don't have machines
JP> that do APM, should be getting fairly small by now. The only machine
JP> I've got that gets ``powered down'' on a regular basis is my laptop,
JP> and it justs gets suspended/restored (except for upgrades and failures
JP> to watch the batery level once in a while!). Not many reboots...
JP> And even if we accept that a machine goes down at night and comes up
JP> in the morning, I'm pretty much at a loss to understand somebody not
JP> wanting to see the messages. The general concept of not wanting
JP> information escapes me...
JP> As an aside, the one thing I really miss from RedHat (I switched to
JP> Debian a while ago) is the bootup procedure. I prefer having the
JP> rcX.d scripts linked to subdirectories of /etc/init.d, and the green
JP> [OK] was really reassuring. That's a pretty minor loss, compared to
JP> the ease in upgrades, though. Yes, I've read about RPM upgrade systems
JP> that have come out recently that are described as being as nice as
JP> dselect. Last fall, dselect and the difficulty of keeping the various
JP> RPM variants provided me with a compelling reason to switch to
JP> Debian. RPM will have to improve to the point that there is a
JP> compelling reason to change before I switch back. Maybe kernel
JP> configs?
JP> --
JP> Joseph J. Pfeiffer, Jr., Ph.D. Phone -- (505) 646-1605
JP> Department of Computer Science FAX -- (505) 646-1002
JP> New Mexico State University http://www.cs.nmsu.edu/~pfeiffer
JP> SWNMRSEF: http://www.nmsu.edu/~scifair
While there was a period where rpm had a bit of colic, and its diaper
needed changing frequently, that seems to be past tense now and
everything is working rather nicely, and has been for several months.
There was a certain sequence one had to go thru to upgrade it, demanding
that 3.0.5-9 be used as the bridge from old to new. (or at least thats
how it seemed to me)
Cheers, Gene
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From: "hushui" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: what is the real size of setup.S (the code for booting on i386)
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 22:36:11 +0800
4 sectors????
Some one says ,it will be changed when using build tools??
Is it ??
Thank you
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From: "Edwin Lau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Via + Maxtor + kernel 2.4.3 = crash?
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 15:03:49 GMT
Hi everyone,
I don't know if my case has anything to do with the via chipset problem.
I use an Asus P3V4X motherboard + maxtor 9000 series hd and kernel 2.4.3.
Once in a while (a couple of days, and seems getting more often now), linux
said the harddisk is busy and not ready for command and some i/o errors. and
it just keeps on saying that until a reboot. the strange thing is that the
bios did not recognize the hd if I reboot using the reset botton. only power
off and back on again solved the problem. the problem often happen with I
was using dselect to upgrade the system. it results in huge file system
corruption.
I am also wondering what the status of resiefs, it is in production
state like ext2?
thanx in advance
Edwin Lau
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jonathan Buzzard)
Subject: Re: how to modify dynamic lib ?
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 15:57:12 +0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Markus Fischer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> this seems to do it,
> however it looks like I am having this very small problem ;-)
>
> bender:~/sockets # export LD_PRELOAD=/root/malloc_example/intercept.so; export
>LD_PRELOAD
> bender:~/sockets # ls
> ls: error while loading shared libraries: /root/malloc_example/intercept.so: ELF
>file's phentsize
> not the expected size
>
> I used
>
> gcc -shared (-fPIC) -o intercept.so -c intercept.c
>
> it's a Suse Linux libc system
>
Please don't top post. I have only done this once so I could override uname
to fool my banks online banking to work under Linux. It did a Javascript
platform indentification which could be fooled by inserting "Win32" in
the sysname string. I used
gcc -O2 -Wall -shared -o libuname.so uname.c -ldl
JAB.
--
Jonathan A. Buzzard Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Northumberland, United Kingdom. Tel: +44(0)1661-832195
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
24hoursupport.helpdesk,alt.comp.shareware.programmer,comp.editors,comp.lang.java.help,comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.lang.java.softwaretools,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Need your recommendation for a full-featured text editor
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 11:23:33 -0400
Greg Copeland wrote:
>
> Knowledge Seeker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Didn't read all of your requiremnets, but EMACS is THE editor. Like it
> or not, it what all other editors try to be. Period. That doesn't mean
> that it's for you, as it does have a rather steep learning curve, however,
> it is THE programmer's editor.
No, no, no, no, no.
Ed is THE editor.
==================
http://www.billabong.demon.co.uk/ed.html
When I log into my Xenix system with my 110 baud teletype, both vi
*and* Emacs are just too damn slow. They print useless messages like,
'C-h for help' and '"foo" File is read only'. So I use the editor
that doesn't waste my VALUABLE time.
Ed, man! !man ed
ED(1) UNIX Programmer's Manual ED(1)
NAME
ed - text editor
SYNOPSIS
ed [ - ] [ -x ] [ name ]
DESCRIPTION
Ed is the standard text editor.
---
Computer Scientists love ed, not just because it comes first
alphabetically, but because it's the standard. Everyone else loves ed
because it's ED!
"Ed is the standard text editor."
And ed doesn't waste space on my Timex Sinclair. Just look:
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root 24 Oct 29 1929 /bin/ed
-rwxr-xr-t 4 root 1310720 Jan 1 1970 /usr/ucb/vi
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root 5.89824e37 Oct 22 1990 /usr/bin/emacs
Of course, on the system *I* administrate, vi is symlinked to ed.
Emacs has been replaced by a shell script which 1) Generates a syslog
message at level LOG_EMERG; 2) reduces the user's disk quota by 100K;
and 3) RUNS ED!!!!!!
"Ed is the standard text editor."
Let's look at a typical novice's session with the mighty ed:
golem> ed
?
help
?
?
?
quit
?
exit
?
bye
?
hello?
?
eat flaming death
?
^C
?
^C
?
^D
?
---
Note the consistent user interface and error reportage. Ed is
generous enough to flag errors, yet prudent enough not to overwhelm
the novice with verbosity.
"Ed is the standard text editor."
Ed, the greatest WYGIWYG editor of all.
ED IS THE TRUE PATH TO NIRVANA! ED HAS BEEN THE CHOICE OF EDUCATED
AND IGNORANT ALIKE FOR CENTURIES! ED WILL NOT CORRUPT YOUR PRECIOUS
BODILY FLUIDS!! ED IS THE STANDARD TEXT EDITOR! ED MAKES THE SUN
SHINE AND THE BIRDS SING AND THE GRASS GREEN!!
When I use an editor, I don't want eight extra KILOBYTES of worthless
help screens and cursor positioning code! I just want an EDitor!!
Not a "viitor". Not a "emacsitor". Those aren't even WORDS!!!! ED!
ED! ED IS THE STANDARD!!!
TEXT EDITOR.
When IBM, in its ever-present omnipotence, needed to base their
"edlin" on a UNIX standard, did they mimic vi? No. Emacs? Surely
you jest. They chose the most karmic editor of all. The standard.
Ed is for those who can *remember* what they are working on. If you
are an idiot, you should use Emacs. If you are an Emacs, you should
not be vi. If you use ED, you are on THE PATH TO REDEMPTION. THE
SO-CALLED "VISUAL" EDITORS HAVE BEEN PLACED HERE BY ED TO TEMPT THE
FAITHLESS. DO NOT GIVE IN!!! THE MIGHTY ED HAS SPOKEN!!!
?
>
> Greg
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am looking for a full-featured yet easy to use text editor to
> > replace Notepad. Ideally, I would like a tool that is cross-platform
> > or has versions for Win98 and Linux. The main platform requirement
> > would be Win98 and the nice-to-have platform is Linux.
> >
> > There seem to be a plethora of choices that might work:
> > UltraEdit
> > TextPad
> > EditPlus
> > WinEdit
> > Multi-Edit
> > Zeus
> > CRiSP
> [snip]
>
> --
> Greg Copeland, Principal Consultant
> Copeland Computer Consulting
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The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
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I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
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between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
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H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
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method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
24hoursupport.helpdesk,alt.comp.shareware.programmer,comp.editors,comp.lang.java.help,comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.lang.java.softwaretools,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Need your recommendation for a full-featured text editor
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 11:24:45 -0400
Goldhammer wrote:
>
> On 09 Apr 2001 11:45:18 -0500,
> Greg Copeland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >Didn't read all of your requiremnets, but EMACS is THE editor. Like it
> >or not, it what all other editors try to be.
>
> Vi does not try to be Emacs.
Thank god....or...should I say..thank Bill (Bill Joy, that is...)
>
> --
> Don't think you are. Know you are.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
24hoursupport.helpdesk,alt.comp.shareware.programmer,comp.editors,comp.lang.java.help,comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.lang.java.softwaretools,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Need your recommendation for a full-featured text editor
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 11:28:40 -0400
JLI wrote:
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Greg Copeland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Newsgroups:
> 24hoursupport.helpdesk,alt.comp.shareware.programmer,comp.editors,comp.lang.
> java.help,comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.lang.java.softwaretools,comp.os.lin
> ux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.development.system
> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 10:45 AM
> Subject: Re: Need your recommendation for a full-featured text editor
>
> > Knowledge Seeker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > Didn't read all of your requiremnets, but EMACS is THE editor. Like it
> > or not, it what all other editors try to be. Period. That doesn't mean
> > that it's for you, as it does have a rather steep learning curve, however,
> > it is THE programmer's editor.
>
> EMACS is a monster. It takes over 20 MB memory and starts very slowly
> (>10sec).
> It tries to do everything, but is short at most thing. I know many people
> love
> it after they have mastered it, but it takes time.
> Most modern software packages have nowdays their own IDEs which are
> mostly more appropriate choices as primary tool.
>
> For simple editing work vi is properly the best tool on UNIX. It is always
> available,
> it is fast, and it is optimized with respect to key-strikes. Many people
> hate it
> because of it's duoal mode, but vi has been actively in use for over 20
> years and
> has not changed significantly. So, if you learned vi in two or three days,
> you can use
> the same vi on any UNIX machine for properly another 15 years. Another nice
> thing
> about vi is that it hardly need any configuration, whereas EMACS's
> strength/weakness
> is let you configure it to fit your need (in Lisp-like language).
Which means that as soon as your on a new machine, your stuck editing
WITHOUT your config file....
UGH.
>
> JLi
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: "Marcello Botrugno" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Virtual Terminal
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 11:46:12 +0200
Hi all,
I have an application with character interface. My problem is to know, at a
given time,
if the current virtual Terminal (Ctrl+F1..n) is the one on which my
application is running.
I know that under SCO it is possible to receve a signal when the application
looses/gets the focus. Do you know if it is possible to get the same
beaviour under Linux ?.
Tanks
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