Linux-Development-Sys Digest #628, Volume #8 Tue, 10 Apr 01 21:13:07 EDT
Contents:
Re: 2.2.19 ( and older ) bug with Via KT133 ( dunno 'bout KT133A, eh? ) (bill
davidsen)
Re: Suppressing Redhat bootup output ("ne...")
Re: kernel 2.4.2 and wrong file time stamps (bill davidsen)
Re: Quesion about precise time control ("tlin")
Re: Need your recommendation for a full-featured text editor (Duane Bozarth)
Re: Suppressing Redhat bootup output (Craig Kelley)
Re: mmap fails after about 2GB ("Karl Heyes")
Re: Installing Linux applications.... !!
Re: Quesion about precise time control
Re: Need your recommendation for a full-featured text editor (Dave Martel)
Re: Quesion about precise time control ("tlin")
Can we can change HZ from 100 to 10000? ("tlin")
Re: Need your recommendation for a full-featured text editor (Peter Bismuti)
Re: Need your recommendation for a full-featured text editor (The Ghost In The
Machine)
Development of Server in RedHat ("Julia Donawald")
Re: Need your recommendation for a full-featured text editor (The Ghost In The
Machine)
Re: Suppressing Redhat bootup output (Mike McDonald)
Re: Suppressing Redhat bootup output (H.Bruijn)
Re: Need your recommendation for a full-featured text editor (Kenny Chaffin)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (bill davidsen)
Subject: Re: 2.2.19 ( and older ) bug with Via KT133 ( dunno 'bout KT133A, eh? )
Date: 10 Apr 2001 20:13:58 GMT
In article <NEez6.522749$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Brian Bisaillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| Well, in my experience I found that it was better NOT to enable DMA by
| default. For example, when I enabled DMA by default it picked up my drive as
| UDMA Mode 2 via hdparm's statistics on /dev/hdx but when I recompiled the
| kernel without DMA enabled by default, it picked up my drive as UDMA Mode 4
| (that is what it's supposed to be) and so I just fed the rest of the
| configuration options via hdparm afterwards.
The announcement of the latest hdparm in col.announce had a set of
parameters for tuning "recent drives." Anyone look at what they do? I
have it on my to-do list, but the claim of vast improvement is made, and
if Mark says vast improvement I accept that, he knows more about IDE
than virtually anyone else.
--
bill davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CTO, TMR Associates, Inc
At LinuxExpo Sun was showing Linux applications running on Solaris.
They don't get it, the arrow points the other way. There's a reason why
there's no SolarisExpo, Solaris is a tool; Linux is a philosophy, a
religion, a way of life, and only incidentally an operating system.
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup
From: "ne..." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Suppressing Redhat bootup output
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 20:20:11 GMT
On Apr 10, 2001 at 19:41, Paul Haley eloquently wrote:
[...]
>Mounting filesystems
>Starting cron daemon [OK]
>Starting pcmcia [OK]
>etc.
>
>Any way to get rid of that?
This is from the rc scripts. I guess you'll to hack them.
--
Registered Linux User # 125653 (http://counter.li.org)
This week only, all our fiber-fill jackets are marked down!
4:15pm up 24 days, 16:14, 9 users, load average: 0.06, 0.03, 0.01
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (bill davidsen)
Subject: Re: kernel 2.4.2 and wrong file time stamps
Date: 10 Apr 2001 20:20:20 GMT
In article <9as8sg$40q$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Ulrich Lauther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| The problem does not occur with 2.2.17 on the same system.
|
| The clock was set using clock -s -u
|
| Any clues?
I was unable to replicate with 2.4.3-ac3, so I can't shed any light. I
don't have a 2.4.2 handy to try, and without a reboot I can't do right
now I can't try 2.4.1 either.
If it is only in 2.4.2 you have an easy way to fix it ;-)
--
bill davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CTO, TMR Associates, Inc
At LinuxExpo Sun was showing Linux applications running on Solaris.
They don't get it, the arrow points the other way. There's a reason why
there's no SolarisExpo, Solaris is a tool; Linux is a philosophy, a
religion, a way of life, and only incidentally an operating system.
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From: "tlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Quesion about precise time control
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 16:33:57 -0600
I can't get usleep in the linux source code. I am using kernel 2.2.16.
Thanks.
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In article <9avcer$gu7$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, tlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >I need to get a very small time interval inside the kernel, such as 300
> >microsecond.
>
> Have you tried usleep(300)?
>
> --
> http://www.spinics.net/linux/
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From: Duane Bozarth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.comp.shareware.programmer,comp.editors,comp.lang.java.help,comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.lang.java.softwaretools,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Need your recommendation for a full-featured text editor
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 15:42:45 -0500
I requested info from Borland regarding the last version of Brief a few
months ago. First person I talked to (a quite young thing, very
friendly) hadn't never heard of it. Asked her to go talk to some of the
old-time developers (btw, what's chances there were any left from that
era? :-)). She reported back that "Brief technology (!) has been
incorported into the Borland integrated development enviornment"! and
"which version did I wish to purchase"?
Dan Miller wrote:
>
> "Dave Martel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > On Mon, 9 Apr 2001 14:29:14 -0700, "Dan Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >"Craig Kelley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >> "Paul Kinnucan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > >>
> > >> I must throw in my vote for XEmacs/Emacs as well (XEmacs is just
> > >> prettier); although a programmer's editor is much like a choice of
> > >> underware: use what's comfortable for you, and avoid the ones that
> > >> rub you the wrong way.
> > >>
> > >So, you're recommending Brief?? It hasn't been available for awhile...
> >
> > Brief's the best programmer's editor I ever used. Despite
> > compatability claims I've never found another editor that duplicates
> > Brief's intuitiveness. Too bad Borland bought it up and then forgot
> > about it.
> >
> I agree... I used Brief for over a decade, and *loved* it... it's still the
> prototype for many of the capabilities that people expect to see in a
> Dos/Windows editor. I've always resented Borland's grab; if they didn't
> want to use the program, why did they buy it and kill it?? It's not like
> they were trying to protect turf for their editor, whatever it was called...
>
> But then, Borland has often been confused about what direction it was
> going...
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From: Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Suppressing Redhat bootup output
Date: 10 Apr 2001 15:01:04 -0600
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Haley) writes:
> Thanks for your followup to my post on this subject. I entered:
>
> append="console=null" at the bottom of the kernel settings in lilo.conf,
> however it gets rid of only kernel messages I'm guessing. The PCI probes
> and SCSI output are gone, but there is still quite a bit of output such as:
>
> Mounting filesystems
> Starting cron daemon [OK]
> Starting pcmcia [OK]
> etc.
>
> Any way to get rid of that?
Edit each script in /etc/init.d and after the shell bang, place this
line:
1>/dev/null 2>&1
--
It won't be long before the CPU is a card in a slot on your ATX videoboard
Craig Kelley -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.isu.edu/~kellcrai finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP block
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From: "Karl Heyes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: mmap fails after about 2GB
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 21:24:04 +0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Aaron Sherman"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At work, I have a 4GB system with 2.4.3 running on it. I've compiled with
> 4GB support, and indeed the system sees 4GB, but when I run my program it
> fails. The program is trying to mmap about 3GB of files (ranging from a few
> MB to nearly a GB each). The behavior is actually very interesting, since
> it succeeds on the first few, then fails on a large file, then succeeds on a
> few small files, and then fails for the rest.
> Clearly, there is some overall process size limit that we're hitting, but I
> can't find reference to how we would get around it. I saw some comments
That will be the 2 gig limit. remember on a 32bit arch dealing with 64bits is
not something you have without penalty. try using the 64bit LFS calls like
mmap64 as defined by posix.
> about TASK_UNMAPPED_BASE, but it was not clear if that would apply to 2.4,
> or how I would go about modifying this or what safe values would be.
> Modifying /proc/sys/vm/overcommit_memory did not help. I'm really stabbing
> in the dark, because Linux VM is not my forte. Any clues?
>
overcommit is where the kernel gives memory to processes even though it
has exceeded it's mem+swap. The idea here is that some processes allocate
more memory than they actually need.
What you are referring to is split between kernel and process memory,
normally a 2:2 split but can be chamged to a 1:3. I would susggest reading
up and the LFS (largefile) stuff.
karl.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: Installing Linux applications.... !!
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 22:05:30 -0000
In article <9avnma$1qq$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Karim A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I've developped an application for Linux under Gnome env.
>Now I'd like to provide users a script to install it.
>But I'm not "very" experienced with scripting.
>I've always developped under Windwos and I don't know if it exist install
>tools for Linux such like InstallShield.
>
>In fact, I'd like to know how to set permanently env variables in .xxxRC
>files. I alwas get permissions errors etc.
>
>So, does anyone knows where I can find tutorials about writing install
>scripts, setting up env variables etc...
A good place to start would be the rpm howto document.
--
http://www.spinics.net/linux/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: Re: Quesion about precise time control
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 22:09:44 -0000
In article <9avqo9$4eb$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, tlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I can't get usleep in the linux source code. I am using kernel 2.2.16.
Oops, it should be udelay not usleep. (I'm old and my brain doesn't
work well anymore.)
--
http://www.spinics.net/linux/
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From: Dave Martel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.comp.shareware.programmer,comp.editors,comp.lang.java.help,comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.lang.java.softwaretools,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Need your recommendation for a full-featured text editor
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 16:04:36 -0600
On Tue, 10 Apr 2001 15:42:45 -0500, Duane Bozarth
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I requested info from Borland regarding the last version of Brief a few
>months ago. First person I talked to (a quite young thing, very
>friendly) hadn't never heard of it. Asked her to go talk to some of the
>old-time developers (btw, what's chances there were any left from that
>era? :-)). She reported back that "Brief technology (!) has been
>incorported into the Borland integrated development enviornment"! and
>"which version did I wish to purchase"?
They're full of it. I used to use Borland C++ Builder 4.0, and the IDE
is only remotely Brieflike. Example: Under Brief you press Home once
to go to the start of the line, again to go to the start of the
current screen, and again to go to the start of the document. It
doesn't matter if you're already at the start of the line, pressing
Home once still consistenly takes you to the start of the line and the
second time always takes you to the top of the screen, etc.
Under Borland's version it depends on where you are. The first Home
takes you to the start of the line if you're not already there, but if
you are then it takes you to the top of the page. Similarly the second
home takes you to the top of the page if you're not already there,
else it takes you to the top of the document. So you have to stop and
think, which is to say stop thinking about your source and start
thinking about what your editor's going to do. The window-splitting
isn't anything like the same either, and for marking blocks you have
to remember to toggle between columnar and line-oriented marked blocks
whereas under Brief each has its own unique command.
There are lots of differences like that. Individually they seem small
but put them all together and they make the difference between an
editor that lets you think entirely about your code, and one that
fights you.
I've seen a lot of people ask where they can buy Brief, but Borland
stopped selling it about 5 years ago. I think it was on comp.editors
that someone said you can ask for it in alt.binaries.warez.ibm-pc.old,
a pseudo-piracy group that specialises in old no-longer-available
applications. But of course one never knows what nasty little
surprises may lurk in pirated software.
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From: "tlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Quesion about precise time control
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 18:57:54 -0600
I know that udelay is a busy waiting delay. ( if I am wrong, please let me
know.)
But I am using the time control to do an endless loop in a kernel thread.
It is impossible to use a busy-waiting scheme to control the time there.
That
is why I am looking for a solution via time interruption. Thanks anyway!
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In article <9avqo9$4eb$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, tlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >I can't get usleep in the linux source code. I am using kernel 2.2.16.
>
> Oops, it should be udelay not usleep. (I'm old and my brain doesn't
> work well anymore.)
>
> --
> http://www.spinics.net/linux/
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From: "tlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Can we can change HZ from 100 to 10000?
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 19:08:16 -0600
hi,
I am using 2.2.16 kernel with HZ=100. Can I change it to 10000
so that I can get a smaller time interval? Thanks!
tlin
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Bismuti)
Crossposted-To:
24hoursupport.helpdesk,alt.comp.shareware.programmer,comp.editors,comp.lang.java.help,comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.lang.java.softwaretools,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Need your recommendation for a full-featured text editor
Date: 10 Apr 2001 23:21:06 GMT
There is something called slick edit which is a commercial product, but it
has most of the nice features and should be easy to use.
Knowledge Seeker ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Hi,
:
: I am looking for a full-featured yet easy to use text editor to
: replace Notepad. Ideally, I would like a tool that is cross-platform
: or has versions for Win98 and Linux. The main platform requirement
: would be Win98 and the nice-to-have platform is Linux.
:
: There seem to be a plethora of choices that might work:
: UltraEdit
: TextPad
: EditPlus
: WinEdit
: Multi-Edit
: Zeus
: CRiSP
:
: Right now I am leaning to UltraEdit but I have not done a true
: rigorous evaluation. I would definitely like to hear from anybody
: that has done a true objective comparative evaluation of these
: products (or others that I have not listed).
:
: My actual requirements are:
:
: Must haves:
: 1. Syntax highlighting (with color and or font) for HTML and Java
: 2. Robust cut and paste including row, AND column AND block
: capabilities
: 3. Split and join functions based on margin or specified column
: 4. Ability to intelligently remove prefix characters (i.e. ">") and
: re-format text to new margins keeping paragraphs intact (i.e. fixing
: forwarded email text)
: 5. Ability to edit multiple files side-by-side
: 6. Ability to compare files and synchronize multiple similar files
: flagging differences
: 7. Robust search and replace capabilities (ideally supporting
: regular expressions)
: 8. Line numbering
: 9. Column numbering
: 10. Auto-completion (based on customizable template)of common
: programming statements
: 11. Ability to preview HTML pages (including Java applets) easily
: 12. HTML toolbar (I know I should know all the tags but I just cannot
: remember them all)
: 13. Can be used as a replacement for Notepad (so it must be
: relatively quick and have a small footprint)
: 14. Highlights URL and e-mail addresses and launches browser or email
: client in a separate window when clicked
: 15. Ability to change case for entire selected text
: 16. Auto indent based on user-defined templates for each programming
: language
: 17. Auto alignment (I.e. if I want a set of lines with the "=" sign
: or decimal point or comma aligned on multiple rows)
: 18. Undo capability
:
: Nice to haves:
: 1. Syntax highlighting for Perl, C/C++, and SQL. Also, extensibility
: for other programming languages based on easily customized syntax
: files.
: 2. Ability to use FTP
: 3. Spell checker
: 4. Ability to compile from within the editor
: 5. Keystroke save/execute (i.e. macro capability)
:
:
: --
: eCommerce Knowledge Seeker
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Ghost In The Machine)
Crossposted-To:
24hoursupport.helpdesk,alt.comp.shareware.programmer,comp.editors,comp.lang.java.help,comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.lang.java.softwaretools,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Need your recommendation for a full-featured text editor
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 00:17:05 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Gamma
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote
on Tue, 10 Apr 2001 20:06:43 GMT
<nJJA6.394$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>Roberto Selbach Teixeira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>On Tue, 10 Apr 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>> Randall Parker wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 10 Apr 2001 06:00:03 GMT esteemed JLI did'st hold forth
>>>> thusly:
>>>> > For simple editing work vi is properly the best tool on UNIX.
>>>>
>>>> Does it do color syntax coding or language and library sensitive
>>>> code expansion?
>>>>
>>>> Its been a long time since I used vi and it was the second editor I
>>>> learned to use. But I think perhaps I should learn it again to help
>>>> when administering Linux and Unix boxes.
>>>
>>> vim does.
>>>
>>
>>And it sucks too! The obvious choice is (and always will be) FSF Emacs!
>
>
>Holy war off the port bow!!
>
>[launches "Notepad rules!" missiles, which promptly misfire]
Here. Try these Wordpad and J++ Visual Studio missile variants.
They'll only go 30 degrees off course, instead. :-)
>
>--
>
>Paul Brinkley
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- insert random file editing missile here
EAC code #191 4d:01h:08m actually running Linux.
All hail the Invisible Pink Unicorn (pbuh)!
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From: "Julia Donawald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Development of Server in RedHat
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 02:31:13 +0200
Hi,
till now I have only developed applications in Windows, but now I get more
and more interested in Linux, so I have installed a RedHat 7.0 Linux
Distribution on my PC. I now have to develope the following application and
need therefore some information:
1.) How to develope an internet server tool, that means I want to create a
program that receives data from a client through the internet.
2.) The data from the client I have to put in an mySQL Database.
3.) How can I make the server run all the time, when the linux-server
starts.
That means where can I find some samples or other information on these two
problems. In fact I am also really interested, if this is a complex problem
in linux and which libarys ( in C++ ) I could use to simplify my work. I
know that I can search with some searchengines, but I am a really newbie in
linux and so have no detailed idea for what to search exactly.
Thanks a lot in advance
Julia
P.S. Sorry for my bad english
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Ghost In The Machine)
Crossposted-To:
24hoursupport.helpdesk,alt.comp.shareware.programmer,comp.editors,comp.lang.java.help,comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.lang.java.softwaretools,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Need your recommendation for a full-featured text editor
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 00:31:27 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Aaron R. Kulkis
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote
on Tue, 10 Apr 2001 13:06:22 -0400
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
>>
>> In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Aaron R. Kulkis
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote
>> on Tue, 10 Apr 2001 11:23:33 -0400
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> >Greg Copeland wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Knowledge Seeker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> >>
>> >> Didn't read all of your requiremnets, but EMACS is THE editor.
>> >> Like it or not, it what all other editors try to be. Period.
>> >> That doesn't mean that it's for you, as it does have a rather
>> >> steep learning curve, however, it is THE programmer's editor.
>> >
>> >No, no, no, no, no.
>> >
>> >Ed is THE editor.
>> >==================
>> >http://www.billabong.demon.co.uk/ed.html
>> >
>> >
>> >When I log into my Xenix system with my 110 baud teletype, both vi
>> >*and* Emacs are just too damn slow. They print useless messages like,
>> >'C-h for help' and '"foo" File is read only'. So I use the editor
>> >that doesn't waste my VALUABLE time.
>>
>> Good god man! At least get yourself an ADM3A terminal and
>> a 300 baud.... :-)
>
>I miss those old ADM terminals.
>
>Of course, I also miss the teletypes.
>
>Both have their strengths.
A friend of mine gave me a WYSE-60 serial terminal. (Or maybe
a WYSE-50. I forget now. It was a green screen, anyway.)
Kinda fun to play with, if one has a spare serial port and
isn't afraid to edit /etc/inittab to provide said terminal
with a login prompt; one can also use it as a console messager
by configuring syslogd. And it worked for such things as vi
very well -- hurrah for historical entries in /etc/terminfo.
Sadly, the terminal blew a transistor or something after 3 days (and
a fuse; replacing said fuse, which took awhile to find, led to blowing
the replacement fuse) and is now in my junk pile. Sigh. It was fun
while it lasted; maybe I'll get another one. Of course, maybe not;
we're not exactly swimming in spare electric power here anymore.
(THE editor? Well, out of TECO, vi, Notepad, Emacs (which I don't
know that well; please don't flame me), Edlin (yuck), EDIT,
XEDIT, Wordpad, Wordstar (which I might have touched once, but
can't say for sure), Word, VC++'s editor (which is different from
Notepad), and Java's built-in TextArea, I pick vi. For me, that's
THE editor -- but I'm not going to say it's best for you,
or anyone else. :-) )
[rest snipped]
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- insert random editor here
EAC code #191 4d:01h:10m actually running Linux.
This space for rent.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike McDonald)
Subject: Re: Suppressing Redhat bootup output
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 00:49:30 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Joe Pfeiffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> "Johnny A. Solbu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>> A significant number of Linux users do NOT leave their=20
>> computers powered ON when they are done computing.
>> Also a significant number of Linux users does not run a server
>> or have a 24/7 connection. They don't even have a LAN.
>>
>> So shutting down their boxes is as natural as eating every day.
>
> Dunno... it seems to me that the population of users who are running
> systems that go up/down as you describe, but who don't have machines
> that do APM, should be getting fairly small by now.
You both are assuming it's being used as a computer. Linux runs lots of
other things too. Like consumer products where screen fulls of technobabble
isn't desired.
> And even if we accept that a machine goes down at night and comes up
> in the morning, I'm pretty much at a loss to understand somebody not
> wanting to see the messages. The general concept of not wanting
> information escapes me...
If this is a consumer product, unless something breaks, then the boot will
succeed just like every other time. Therefore the default should be to not
print extraneous junk to the screen. Only if it starts failing would the end
users want to enable the log messages. And tech support will tell him how to
do it too.
Mike McDonald
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (H.Bruijn)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Suppressing Redhat bootup output
Date: 11 Apr 2001 00:59:53 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 10 Apr 2001 15:01:04 -0600, Craig Kelley allegedly wrote:
>>
>> append="console=null" at the bottom of the kernel settings in lilo.conf,
>> however it gets rid of only kernel messages I'm guessing. The PCI probes
>> and SCSI output are gone, but there is still quite a bit of output such as:
>>
>> Starting cron daemon [OK]
>>
>> Any way to get rid of that?
>
>Edit each script in /etc/init.d and after the shell bang, place this
>line:
>
>1>/dev/null 2>&1
That redirects all output, also error messages. In most cases it would
be usefull to have those displayed, so that the user will be aware of
any problems, and can then correct them.
--
If a trainstation is the place where trains stop, what is a workstation?
========================================================================
Herman Bruijn website: http://hermanbruijn.com
The Netherlands
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From: Kenny Chaffin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
24hoursupport.helpdesk,alt.comp.shareware.programmer,comp.editors,comp.lang.java.help,comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.lang.java.softwaretools,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Need your recommendation for a full-featured text editor
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 19:08:07 -0600
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> I miss those old ADM terminals.
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> Of course, I also miss the teletypes.
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> Both have their strengths.
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> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- that's just so 80's
> > EAC code #191 4d:06h:36m actually running Linux.
> > The Usenet channel. All messages, all the time.
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But did you build your's from a kit?
KAC
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Kenny A. Chaffin
KAC Website Design - http://www.kacweb.com
Custom/Contract Programming, Graphics, Design
Poetry Page: http://www.kacweb.com/poems/
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