Linux-Development-Sys Digest #640, Volume #8     Thu, 12 Apr 01 17:13:14 EDT

Contents:
  IP filtering ("Fabio Ventrone")
  supporting functions to the device driver writer? (philip)
  Re: Can we can change HZ from 100 to 10000? ("tlin")
  Re: CPU affinity in Red Hat Linux 6.2 (Philip Armstrong)
  Re: Need your recommendation for a full-featured text editor (NO FTAA)
  Re: BIOS Upgrades ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Re: BIOS Upgrades (Harold Stevens US.972.952.3293)
  Re: Need your recommendation for a full-featured text editor (The Ghost In The 
Machine)
  Re: Need your recommendation for a full-featured text editor (The Ghost In The 
Machine)
  Re: Need your recommendation for a full-featured text editor (The Ghost In The 
Machine)
  Re: BUG: ftime inconsistent [RH7-fisher (kernel 2.4)] (Sten)
  Re: New directions for kernel development  (The Ghost In The Machine)
  Re: Need your recommendation for a full-featured text editor (John Hawkins)
  Re: BIOS Upgrades ("Peter T. Breuer")

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From: "Fabio Ventrone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: IP filtering
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 18:31:37 +0200

I have to write a program that capture all the IP traffic and elaborate it
(it has also to route it to a simulated radio bridge connected via
TCP/IP...).

How to capture the packets ?

I initially tryied  with "libpcap" but I had some problems (it gave me a
segm. fault...). Then I though that for my kind of work it'd have been
enough an easyer way to work: I can configure a firewall (ipchains) for all
"input" packets that REDIRECT them to a local socket.

this is the command I gave:

ipchains -A input -d \! 127.0.0.1 -p TCP -j REDIRECT 7777

this should redirect all outgoing traffic to my local port 7777, but it
doesn't work. It just works as if there was no firewall.

I have 3 "or-ed" questions:

1) do you have any other way to capture packets, elaborate them and redirect
something else?
2) why my firewall config does not what I expect?
3) do you have any easy example for libpcap that does something similar??

Thank you
   FabioVentrone




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From: philip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: supporting functions to the device driver writer?
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 17:30:36 GMT

Hi!
Is there anyone knows where I can find complete supporting function
specification for device driver writer?
from here I saw one:(seems was written in 1996)
http://www.linuxdoc.org/LDP/khg/HyperNews/get/devices/reference.html
and seems it is too old and not including something like "ioremap" that
kind fucntion.
any one can tell me where to get the newer and more complete one?
thank you!

philip


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From: "tlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can we can change HZ from 100 to 10000?
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 13:34:02 -0600

Yeah, the new time interval is not guarantee to be 100 microseconds.
Could you give me some more details about rtc? Thanks!


Mark Hahn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:9b4it2$96n$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > I changed it from 100 to 10000. It seems working now.
> > I can get 100 microsecond time interval by the new HZ.
>
> this doesn't make much sense.  first, rdtsc is the way to get
> nanosecond timing.  if you want 100 us timers (alarms), there
> are also probably other better ways (for one, rtc can easily
> give you 8 KHz, without totally destroying the efficiency of
> the system/scheduler.)



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Philip Armstrong)
Subject: Re: CPU affinity in Red Hat Linux 6.2
Date: 12 Apr 2001 10:18:57 +0100

In article <H83B6.1015$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
news.cso.uiuc.edu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>sometimes called "CPU affinity."  The idea is that we want to minimize the
>number of times a process bounces back and forth between processors.
>
>We could also like to monitor which processor a given process is running on.
>I couldn't find anything in the ps or proc man pages about how to do this.
>
>Are either of these features available on Red Hat Linux 6.2?

Not without applying experimental kernel patches and recompiling your
kernel, no.

Note that processes already *have* a measure of cpu affinity built
into the scheduler; it prefers to run then on the cpu they were last
running on. If you're seeing processes bouncing between cpus it may be
a masurement artifact (ie, the use of top / xosview to observe the
processes is adding a process to the run queue which changes the
scheduler decisions.) If you run a pair of cpu-bound test programs
that find out for themselves (from /proc say) which cpu they are
running on, you should find that they tend to remain on the same cpu.

Phil
-- 
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From: NO FTAA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
24hoursupport.helpdesk,alt.comp.shareware.programmer,comp.editors,comp.lang.java.help,comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.lang.java.softwaretools,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Need your recommendation for a full-featured text editor
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 18:44:04 GMT

    Since everyone else in the entire programming universe as jumped in
on this except for me, I decided I had better jump in and ask a
question: where do you get
EditPlus? at Tucows? ZDNet? or just query on any search engine? I'll try
all of those suggestions now.
    Thank you,
              Will Stewart

Tom wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 4 Apr 2001, Knowledge Seeker wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am looking for a full-featured yet easy to use text editor to
> > replace Notepad.  Ideally, I would like a tool that is cross-platform
> > or has versions for Win98 and Linux.  The main platform requirement
> > would be Win98 and the nice-to-have platform is Linux.
> >
> > There seem to be a plethora of choices that might work:
> > UltraEdit
> > TextPad
> > EditPlus
> 
> I have tried UltraEdit, TextPad, EditPlus, and my recommendation is
> EditPlus. (Actually, it's the only shareware I actually paid for)
> The interface is simple and uncluttered, yet it has plenty of powerful
> features.
> 
> > WinEdit
> > Multi-Edit
> > Zeus
> > CRiSP
> >
> > Right now I am leaning to UltraEdit but I have not done a true
> > rigorous evaluation.  I would definitely like to hear from anybody
> > that has done a true objective comparative evaluation of these
> > products (or others that I have not listed).
> >
> > My actual requirements are:
> >
> > Must haves:
> > 1.    Syntax highlighting (with color and or font) for HTML and Java
> 
> EditPlus supports syntax highlighting for a plethora of file types.  If
> Editplus doesn't come with the syntax highlighting for a particular file
> type, you can download it seperately from their website (www.editplus.com)
> or write your own syntax file.  You can even choose the colors you want
> for it.
> 
> > 2.    Robust cut and paste including row, AND column AND block
> > capabilities
> 
> EditPlus supports row select and column select.  you can undo your edits
> as much as you have modified.
> 
> > 3.    Split and join functions based on margin or specified column
> 
> Split and join functions are available.  splits according to what word
> wrap settings you have enabled.  You can have the word wrap method set to
> wrap after a certain format column number you choose, or have it wrap
> around at the edge of the window.
> 
> > 4.    Ability to intelligently remove prefix characters (i.e. ">") and
> > re-format text to new margins keeping paragraphs intact (i.e. fixing
> > forwarded email text)
> 
> You can use search and replace or column select and delete.
> 
> > 5.    Ability to edit multiple files side-by-side
> 
> Yes.
> 
> > 6.    Ability to compare files and synchronize multiple similar files
> > flagging differences
> 
> No, I think either ultraedit or editpad can do this.
> 
> > 7.    Robust search and replace capabilities (ideally supporting
> > regular expressions)
> 
> Yes, EditPlus has regexp.
> 
> > 8.    Line numbering
> yes
> > 9.    Column numbering
> yes
> > 10.   Auto-completion (based on customizable template)of common
> > programming statements
> yes
> > 11.   Ability to preview HTML pages (including Java applets) easily
> 
> EditPlus does this very well!
> HTMl files can be previewed just like IE would display it, which means
> applets would be shown.
> 
> > 12.   HTML toolbar (I know I should know all the tags but I just cannot
> > remember them all)
> yes.
> > 13.   Can be used as a replacement for Notepad (so it must be
> > relatively quick and have a small footprint)
> yes, it replaced mine.
> > 14.   Highlights URL and e-mail addresses and launches browser or email
> > client in a separate window when clicked
> yes
> > 15.   Ability to change case for entire selected text
> yes.  editplus can either change selected text to all upper, all lower, or
> capitalized (i.e. first letter in each word is upper case)
> > 16.   Auto indent based on user-defined templates for each programming
> > language
> yes, editplus does this.
> > 17.   Auto alignment (I.e. if I want a set of lines with the "=" sign
> > or decimal point or comma aligned on multiple rows)
> 
> AFAIK, no, you'll have to manually do that with editplus.
> 
> > 18.   Undo capability
> 
> as I said before, you can unndo as much as you've modified.
> 
> >
> > Nice to haves:
> 
> > 1. Syntax highlighting for Perl, C/C++, and SQL.  Also, extensibility
> > for other programming languages based on easily customized syntax
> > files.
> 
> yup.
> 
> > 2. Ability to use FTP
> 
> fully integrated ftp support :)
> 
> > 3. Spell checker
> 
> yup.
> 
> > 4. Ability to compile from within the editor
> 
> yup.  You'll need to configure a user tools to tell the editor where the
> compiler is located.  once you do that, it's just a keyboard shortcut or a
> menu item away.
> 
> > 5. Keystroke save/execute (i.e. macro capability)
> 
> editplus precisely can do this.
> 
> >
> >
> > --
> > eCommerce Knowledge Seeker
> >

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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: BIOS Upgrades
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 20:31:29 +0200

In comp.os.linux.misc Harold Stevens US.972.952.3293 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In <9b4io8$96n$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mark Hahn:
>>gross.  flash an updated bios or turn off "optimum" settings in bios.

> On this topic, I need pointers on BIOS upgrades, especially where to find

They're on your mobos manufacturers pages. Nowhere else!

> Just added a 32 MB stick for a total of 64 MB as required by yast2 ("old"
> yast needs less apparently) for a SuSE 7.1 install I've started.

> Rebooting resulted in a kernel panic which I almost expected on these old
> BIOS versions (Award 4.51PG i430VX) from reading threads I found. Figured

No .. there's no relation. If you tell the kernel ...

> redoing LILO with the append="mem=64M" thingy was the ticket but a kernel

.. then the kernel believes you. Then it's merely a question of whether
it's a FACT or not. Reduce the amount you claim until you find out how
much you actually have!

> panic still resulted. OK, threads mentioned this may be a BIOS limit with

No, no, you have the wrong end of the stick here. That's only if you
DON'T tell the kernel how much memory you have. Then it has to
interrogate the bios to find out. And all bioses can report up to 64MB
so your problem is not there.

> This is a point of dimishing returns for me, so any tips welcomed. Even a

"Stop messing up". You have stuck in a dud memory stick, or stuck it in
backwards, or written the bootparameter command wrong - or your error is
not related with the memory, and to find out I'd need to see the panic report.

Peter

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Harold Stevens US.972.952.3293)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: BIOS Upgrades
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 19:34:17 GMT

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Peter T. Breuer:

[Snip...]

>"Stop messing up". You have stuck in a dud memory stick, or stuck it in
>backwards, or written the bootparameter command wrong - or your error is
>not related with the memory, and to find out I'd need to see the panic report.
>
>Peter

One thing I miss most about "xrn" is that convenient "Author Kill" button.

Forget it PT. I'll do 32 MB and yast before putting up with your attitude.

-- 

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Standard Disclaimer: These are my opinions not Raytheon Company.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Ghost In The Machine)
Crossposted-To: 
alt.comp.shareware.programmer,comp.editors,comp.lang.java.help,comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.lang.java.softwaretools,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Need your recommendation for a full-featured text editor
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 19:58:52 GMT

In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Johan Kullstam
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 wrote
on 11 Apr 2001 15:58:24 -0400
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>"Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> Syntax highlighting is useful for NOVICE programmers.
>> 
>> Most experienced programmers have used one-color text
>> for program code for years...
>
>for me, 1 color is simply not enough.  i want 2 colors -- one for
>foreground and another for background.

That does help, although I suppose one could copy-and-paste from
a monocolor editor to a dicoloreditor.... :-)

The main problem there is to tell what the highlighted region is.

(I have the same problem with the term "monochrome".)

[.sigsnip]

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Ghost In The Machine)
Crossposted-To: 
alt.comp.shareware.programmer,comp.editors,comp.lang.java.help,comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.lang.java.softwaretools,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Need your recommendation for a full-featured text editor
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 19:59:15 GMT

In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Ken Tough
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 wrote
on Thu, 12 Apr 2001 10:53:23 -0400
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>Paul Shirley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>>>Syntax highlighting is useful for NOVICE programmers.
>
>>>Most experienced programmers have used one-color text
>>>for program code for years...
>
>>...although the ones that earn a living at it mostly side with the
>>novices.
>
>I think there's probably a UNIX/realtime - "enterprise" divide
>here.  Quick straw poll -- how many UNIX programmers use 1 colour?

Which one? :-)

>
>-- 
>Ken Tough


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Ghost In The Machine)
Crossposted-To: 
24hoursupport.helpdesk,alt.comp.shareware.programmer,comp.editors,comp.lang.java.help,comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.lang.java.softwaretools,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Need your recommendation for a full-featured text editor
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 20:00:54 GMT

In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Roberto Selbach Teixeira
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 wrote
on 11 Apr 2001 15:18:38 -0300
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>On Wed, 11 Apr 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Phillip Lord wrote:
>>> 
>>> >>>>> "Aaron" == Aaron R Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>> 
>>>   Aaron> Phillip Lord wrote:
>>>   >>  >>>>> "Aaron" == Aaron R Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>>   >>
>>>   Aaron> Which means that as soon as your on a new machine, your
>>>   Aaron> stuck editing WITHOUT your config file....
>>>   >>
>>>   Aaron> UGH.
>>>   >>  This is why God invented NFS mounted home spaces.
>>>   >>
>>>   >> Phil
>>> 
>>>   Aaron> And if your behind a corporate firewall which doesn't
>>>   Aaron> permit NFS connections through it....
>>> 
>>>         Fortunately god also invented floppy disks.
>>> 
>> 
>> emacs that fits on a floppy. you're kidding, right?
>> 
>
>There's one in Tom's boot :-)

I've heard of shoehorning things, but this is getting silly. :-)

[.sigsnip]

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Subject: Re: BUG: ftime inconsistent [RH7-fisher (kernel 2.4)]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sten)
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 20:05:41 GMT


I have done more research and have not found 
much.  I have also modified my sample app to
detect 'spikes' in the time reported.  The wierd 
part is that the 'spikes' are happening sporatically
and are a consistent size.  Here is a sample output
from the new test app:

987109039  spike  4295 seconds  (71.5833 minutes)
987109040  spike  4295 seconds  (71.5833 minutes)
987109041  spike  4295 seconds  (71.5833 minutes)

Note that the spikes are about 72 minutes... which 
struck me as odd, considering this snippet from 
the clock() manpage:

       Note that the time can wrap around.   On  a  32bit  system
       where  CLOCKS_PER_SEC  equals  1000000  this function will
       return the same value approximately every 72 minutes.

What exactly does this mean?  The CPU is confused?

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Ghost In The Machine)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.development
Subject: Re: New directions for kernel development 
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 20:05:41 GMT

In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Linus Torvalds
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 wrote
on Wed, 11 Apr 2001 16:49:58 -0700
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>Hi all, 
>
>        Recently, I've been thinking a lot about where Linux
>development should head now that 2.4 is out.

And here I thought Transmeta would have their own newsserver
(check the above message ID)....nice try at stupidity, though,
whoever you are. :-P

[rest snipped, as it's massively silly]

-- 
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Crossposted-To: 
24hoursupport.helpdesk,alt.comp.shareware.programmer,comp.editors,comp.lang.java.help,comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.lang.java.softwaretools,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Need your recommendation for a full-featured text editor
From: John Hawkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 12 Apr 2001 16:21:48 -0400


This is an indirect link, but it will get you all the editors
discussed here in a readable format.  (Note however that for some
reason XEmacs is listed as NotGNUEmacs...they are entirely different
things, but apparently the web page managers are on crack)

http://www.blockdev.net/Community/Editors/

-John

NO FTAA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>     Since everyone else in the entire programming universe as jumped in
> on this except for me, I decided I had better jump in and ask a
> question: where do you get
> EditPlus? at Tucows? ZDNet? or just query on any search engine? I'll try
> all of those suggestions now.
>     Thank you,
>               Will Stewart
> 
> Tom wrote:
> > 
> > On Wed, 4 Apr 2001, Knowledge Seeker wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I am looking for a full-featured yet easy to use text editor to
> > > replace Notepad.  Ideally, I would like a tool that is cross-platform
> > > or has versions for Win98 and Linux.  The main platform requirement
> > > would be Win98 and the nice-to-have platform is Linux.
> > >
> > > There seem to be a plethora of choices that might work:
> > > UltraEdit
> > > TextPad
> > > EditPlus
> > 
> > I have tried UltraEdit, TextPad, EditPlus, and my recommendation is
> > EditPlus. (Actually, it's the only shareware I actually paid for)
> > The interface is simple and uncluttered, yet it has plenty of powerful
> > features.
> > 
> > > WinEdit
> > > Multi-Edit
> > > Zeus
> > > CRiSP
> > >
> > > Right now I am leaning to UltraEdit but I have not done a true
> > > rigorous evaluation.  I would definitely like to hear from anybody
> > > that has done a true objective comparative evaluation of these
> > > products (or others that I have not listed).
> > >
> > > My actual requirements are:
> > >
> > > Must haves:
> > > 1.    Syntax highlighting (with color and or font) for HTML and Java
> > 
> > EditPlus supports syntax highlighting for a plethora of file types.  If
> > Editplus doesn't come with the syntax highlighting for a particular file
> > type, you can download it seperately from their website (www.editplus.com)
> > or write your own syntax file.  You can even choose the colors you want
> > for it.
> > 
> > > 2.    Robust cut and paste including row, AND column AND block
> > > capabilities
> > 
> > EditPlus supports row select and column select.  you can undo your edits
> > as much as you have modified.
> > 
> > > 3.    Split and join functions based on margin or specified column
> > 
> > Split and join functions are available.  splits according to what word
> > wrap settings you have enabled.  You can have the word wrap method set to
> > wrap after a certain format column number you choose, or have it wrap
> > around at the edge of the window.
> > 
> > > 4.    Ability to intelligently remove prefix characters (i.e. ">") and
> > > re-format text to new margins keeping paragraphs intact (i.e. fixing
> > > forwarded email text)
> > 
> > You can use search and replace or column select and delete.
> > 
> > > 5.    Ability to edit multiple files side-by-side
> > 
> > Yes.
> > 
> > > 6.    Ability to compare files and synchronize multiple similar files
> > > flagging differences
> > 
> > No, I think either ultraedit or editpad can do this.
> > 
> > > 7.    Robust search and replace capabilities (ideally supporting
> > > regular expressions)
> > 
> > Yes, EditPlus has regexp.
> > 
> > > 8.    Line numbering
> > yes
> > > 9.    Column numbering
> > yes
> > > 10.   Auto-completion (based on customizable template)of common
> > > programming statements
> > yes
> > > 11.   Ability to preview HTML pages (including Java applets) easily
> > 
> > EditPlus does this very well!
> > HTMl files can be previewed just like IE would display it, which means
> > applets would be shown.
> > 
> > > 12.   HTML toolbar (I know I should know all the tags but I just cannot
> > > remember them all)
> > yes.
> > > 13.   Can be used as a replacement for Notepad (so it must be
> > > relatively quick and have a small footprint)
> > yes, it replaced mine.
> > > 14.   Highlights URL and e-mail addresses and launches browser or email
> > > client in a separate window when clicked
> > yes
> > > 15.   Ability to change case for entire selected text
> > yes.  editplus can either change selected text to all upper, all lower, or
> > capitalized (i.e. first letter in each word is upper case)
> > > 16.   Auto indent based on user-defined templates for each programming
> > > language
> > yes, editplus does this.
> > > 17.   Auto alignment (I.e. if I want a set of lines with the "=" sign
> > > or decimal point or comma aligned on multiple rows)
> > 
> > AFAIK, no, you'll have to manually do that with editplus.
> > 
> > > 18.   Undo capability
> > 
> > as I said before, you can unndo as much as you've modified.
> > 
> > >
> > > Nice to haves:
> > 
> > > 1. Syntax highlighting for Perl, C/C++, and SQL.  Also, extensibility
> > > for other programming languages based on easily customized syntax
> > > files.
> > 
> > yup.
> > 
> > > 2. Ability to use FTP
> > 
> > fully integrated ftp support :)
> > 
> > > 3. Spell checker
> > 
> > yup.
> > 
> > > 4. Ability to compile from within the editor
> > 
> > yup.  You'll need to configure a user tools to tell the editor where the
> > compiler is located.  once you do that, it's just a keyboard shortcut or a
> > menu item away.
> > 
> > > 5. Keystroke save/execute (i.e. macro capability)
> > 
> > editplus precisely can do this.
> > 
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > eCommerce Knowledge Seeker
> > >

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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: BIOS Upgrades
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 22:40:25 +0200

In comp.os.linux.misc Harold Stevens US.972.952.3293 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Peter T. Breuer:

> [Snip...]

>>"Stop messing up". You have stuck in a dud memory stick, or stuck it in
>>backwards, or written the bootparameter command wrong - or your error is
>>not related with the memory, and to find out I'd need to see the panic report.

> One thing I miss most about "xrn" is that convenient "Author Kill" button.

There should be a kill buttin.

> Forget it PT. I'll do 32 MB and yast before putting up with your attitude.

I don't have an attitude.  I'm telling you what's wrong. If you want to
interpret what's wrong as in some way an insult to yourself, that's
your problem. The facts don't care! If it helps .. I'm not insulted by
being told that "I've messed up".  That's just the fact! Now you need to
take it into account. You now know that you can stop looking for other
things to blame, with high probability. The bios is not to blame, in
particular. You can be sure of that. That leaves two things to blame:
the memory, or you.

Which is it? The procedure I suggested will enable you to find out.
Cut the memory size parameter you give at boot until you discover.

And please say thanks later!

Peter

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