Without know what this is to do with linux and diald and only following the context of
this thread ! One would like to contribute the problem that M$ has in getting it right
the first time (each time). The following link might shine some light
http://www.geek.com/techupdate/justin/nov98/halldocs.htm.
Enjoy!
Alpha
Shaun Tancheff wrote:
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> > Most of the linux users are blind to the many shortcomings of their favorite
> > OS, just as many Windows users are. This causes them to rashly make
> > incorrect statements, such as that Windows uses shared memory and has no
> > memory protection and is not multitasking (all of which have appeared in
> > this newsgroup). Just as ludicrous is the statement that Linux undergoes a
>
> This is true, excepting that while windows is multitasking it is only
> partially a preemptive multi-tasking (16 bit programs remain cooperative
> tasking). And while all win 9x do run programs in a protected VM the
> task switch is bad at booting programs that have hung (which usually
> turns out to be fatal soon after). This is primarily due to a really
> poor preemptive (hacked in) architecture that wasn't 'from the ground up'.
>
> > more thorough review process before release. How big is the Windows
>
> Now here you seem to be speculating that coders at MS are *also* testers,
> this I doubt very much. The coders are continuing to work on windows and trying
> to get their holy-grail of 9x merged with NT, while at the same time each
> sub section continues to try and enhance their area (most esp w/DirectX). Also
> all the incomplete features that were scaled back to make release continue to
> try to finish so they can have a stable patch.
>
> > development team at MS, would you say? And what exactly do you think they do
> > with their time during the final weeks or months prior to the release of a
> > new version of Windows? (Hint: MS is not know for the amount of leisure time
> > enjoyed by its workforce!) And how many people beta test each version of
>
> It's also not known for it's programmers with years of industry experience
> outside of Redmond. Smarter not Harder isn't a Microsoft-ism. At MS 'We work
> alot' is more important than 'We know what we're doing'.
>
> > Windows? Take your blinders off, folks! Linux is a great OS, for some
> > situations, but MS is not the devil and Windows is a real OS.
> Some situations to include everything but DVD Movies and Games.
>
> MS is now working on 2 fronts, rescue NT as the small to medium business
> server and WinCE those set-top-boxes! MS Needs WinCE w/DirectX to be the
> gaming platform because the *mass* market doesn't want a home PC, they
> want games, WebTV, and a minimal amount of word processing (for school).
>
> Incidentally with XFree86 v4.0 having OpenGL and DRI Linux will
> hopefully be able to get some (commercial) game-dev. Also if Linux
> grows to become the embedded OS of the future (As it appears that
> transmeta seeks) Then Linux will join the race to the 'set-top-box'
> with MS.
>
> Hey, we already have TIVO, MP3's etc, we're getting a new X, and mozilla,
> just add some games and this will KICK in the Multimedia center!
>
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jeff Silverman
> > Sent: Friday, December 17, 1999 1:18 AM
> > To: Mike Davison
> > Cc: Nicholas Bodley; Jacob Joseph; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [SLL] Features of linux
> >
> >
> >
> > Mike Davison wrote:
> > >
> > > <soapbox on>
> > >
> > > Hmmm... I'll disagree. Linux, and other operating systems that support
> > > protected memory models are more reliable than operating systems that
> > > use a shared memory model, like Windows and MacOS. In the latter case,
> > > an misbehaving program can crash the system. In the protected-memory
> > > case, it is almost impossible for a lousy program to crash the whole
> > > box. That is why Linux is more reliable than Windows.
> > >
> > > The size of the kernel and the open review process are both helpful
> > > in keeping Linux reliable, but the underlying memory-management
> > > architecture is much more critical to Linux's reliablity.
> > >
> > > <soapbox off>
> >
> > Mike,
> >
> > Could you spare a few ones and zeroes and explain the difference between a
> > "protected memory model"
> > and a "shared memory model"? When I went to Windows/95 and Windows/NT
> > school, much was made out of
> > the fact that all processes within the OS had their own unique memory
> > address space, but that the
> > upper half of memory was devoted to the kernel and was shared. VMS uses the
> > same model (Microsoft's
> > innovation: moving the VMS memory model from the VAX to the 80386. Big
> > whoop), and VMS is
> > considered a rock solid OS. But now you tell me that Windows is actually
> > sharing memory, I assume
> > between processes. I don't understand.
> >
> > >
> > > In any case, Linux has proven itself to be much more reliable than the
> > > operating systems produced at Microsoft. (And Apple, but most folks
> > > don't care about Apple.) It should be interesting to see how reliable
> > > Windows 2000/NT ends up being as it is a protected-memory architecture
> > > and _should_ be as reliable as Linux. We'll see.
> > This is true.
> > >
> > > Mike
> >
> > Many thanks,
> >
> >
> > --
> > Jeff Silverman, PC guy, Linux wannabe, Java wannabe, Software engineer,
> > husband, father etc.
> > See my website: http://www.commercialventvac.com/~jeffs
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
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