On Sun, 2008-03-02 at 23:07 +0000, Darren Salt wrote:
> I demand that Philip Pemberton may or may not have written...
> 
> > And now the icing on the cake:
> [snip]
> > [17302.420405] BUG: unable to handle kernel paging request at
> virtual address 
> > fa23bda0
> > [17302.420412] printing eip: f89bd162 *pde = 374ac067 *pte =
> 00000000
> > [17302.420417] Oops: 0000 [#1] SMP
> > [17302.420420] Modules linked in: [...] ath_hal(P) [...] nvidia(P)
> [...]
> > [17302.420481] Pid: 9917, comm: kdvb-ad-1-fe-0 Tainted: P 
> > (2.6.24-11-generic #1)
> [snip]
> 
> You lose. Twice.
> 
> Can you cause that oops *without* the taintware? If not, do not pass
> Go, do
> not collect £200, go directly to the two relevant vendors and
> (possibly) get
> passed back and forth :-)
> 
> (You may be able to remove one of the taintware modules by upgrading
> to
> 2.6.25-rc3; you can remove the other by using nv or nouveau.)


eeeewwwww....

Let's not go there. That is potential flame bait.

As much as I understand your position, where it's coming from, and the
reasoning behind it (and I'm not necessarily against it, trust me on
that), blaming it all on the closed parts is maybe just as bad as
blaming a USB vendor or open source coders and giving up.

Until a week ago I had an Atheros card needing that hal blob. I am still
running the nvidia blob today (can't wait to remove it and use the
built-in Intel 965G chip with my ADD2 card once the open drivers get
better than the nvidia stuff. And they will, the full specs are out,
including for H.264 hardware acceleration).

And my tuners worked, both. No oops.

Let's keep on thing in mind: Philip is running a development version of
Ubuntu that may need some stabilisation itself.

Nico


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