On 2026-05-21 22:53 -0500, Eric Biggers wrote:
> On Fri, May 22, 2026 at 03:32:39AM +0000, Jaegeuk Kim wrote:
> > On 05/21, Theodore Tso wrote:
> > > On Thu, May 21, 2026 at 01:51:08AM -0700, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > > > > You haven't sent a proposal.  This is a reply to a reply to a reply 
> > > > > of a
> > > > > patch.  There's no justification for why f2fs is so special that it
> > > > > needs this.  What the hell is going on?  You know this is not the way 
> > > > > to
> > > > > get code merged into Linux.
> > > > 
> > > > None of this got properly answers, and this broken interface now landed
> > > > in linux-next. IT is offloading a user.* xattr which is free-form
> > > > user data with semantics that are weird to say it very nicely.
> > > > 
> > > > All this was done against the advice in the mailing list discussion.
> > > 
> > > So let me get this straight.  This is a magic xattr interface which is
> > > not even persisted in the file system, but instead sets a 32-bit
> > > bitmask in the struct inode which disappears once the inode gets
> > > flushed from the inode stack.  And it uses a generic xattr name,
> > > "user.fadvise".
> > > 
> > > There's no way in *hell* any other file system is likely to adopt such
> > > a broken interface, so why didn't you just use an ioctl to set this
> > > magic f2fs-specific flag?
> > 
> > I went this route because Android heavily restricts ioctl() permissions
> > and we needed broader access for this to work within the framework.
> 
> It's straightforward (2 lines I think) to update Android's SELinux
> policy to allow an ioctl in all domains.  So that doesn't seem like a
> reason to not use an ioctl.  In fact this is actually a reason *to* use
> an ioctl, as it shows that ioctls can be allowed/denied independently as
> needed, whereas xattrs just use the file write permission.

Thank you, I very much agree.



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