"Andrew Beekhof" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>    I think that the old behavior is preferable because running
>>    "a part of the group" is pointless from the service
>>    availability's point of view and confusing to users.
>
> no.
> just because items later in the group fail doesn't mean the rest of
> the group should be stopped.

In the HA database cluster, the database service is typically provided
by the group like:
  Filesystem + MySQL + IP

If any of the resources failed then the database service is no
longer available. Running only Filesystem does not mean anything to
"the service availability."

> consider:
>   IP + Filesystem + Apache + MySQL
>
> Just because MySQL fails doesn't mean Apache, the Filesystem nor the
> IP should be stopped.

I can understand that, but in that case,
I think it would be more straightforward to have
two separate groups; one for the database server and the other
for the web server, because they can run independently, right?

We usually group up resources because they need to run together to
provide "the service" (database, web server, or whatever) as a whole,
therefore running a part of the group does not make sense.


>
>> 2) If it would not be possible, then would you tell me
>>    what is the "correct" configuration to achieve the same
>>    result as 2.1.2 in the new version?
>>    (with "correct" I mean "by design" and "unlikely change in
>>    the near future")
>>
>>    I'm also wondering how anybody else configures about this behavior.
>
> Let me instead ask what you believe you gain by stopping the first resource.

Because it is just simple and intuitive for users.

And I believe that the most of commercial HA software would also
behave like this (at least in the typical usage).
Our costomers are considering to migrate from a commercial HA
software to heartbeat, and all of them expect to behave like
this so far.

At least it would be nice if it's able to be customized, I would think.


Regards,

Keisuke MORI
NTT DATA Intellilink Corporation

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