I think a simple way to approach is to create Virtual machines and have
those fail over between hosts instead of individual cluster resources. With
this approach you woud only have a single state to be concerned with.

On 8/11/07, Eddie C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> conntrackd RA...Sounds like an STD. :)
>
> I may be totally wrong about this but SSH session is a secure socket
> layer. I think you are going to have disconnects even with conntrackd.
> CIPHERS and re-keying. I could be wrong but SSL is a protocol designed
> not to be tricked like this. I do not see it taking kindly to people
> playing switch-a-roo with it. (sorry to get so technical)
>
> Remember HA failovers are generally in the SECOND not MILLISECOND
> range. The same is true with the RA shell script.  IPADDR2 is a shell
> script.
>
> Even running ifup eth1 is not 'instantaneous' it takes a split second.
>
> I think if you add HA-FAILOVER time+Shell script time you are going to
> lose the connection regardless. The minimum monitoring frequency is
> one second I do not think setting that low is ever a good idea.
>
>
> On 8/11/07, sebastien lorandel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 8/9/07, Dejan Muhamedagic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Thu, Aug 09, 2007 at 10:27:23AM +0200, sebastien lorandel wrote:
> > > > Hi, thanks for your answer David,
> > > >
> > > > for iptables look into the conntrackd daemon and tools, those would
> be
> > > what
> > > > > you
> > > > > would use to syncronise the connection table from one firewall to
> the
> > > > > other.
> > > > >
> > > > Ok, so I don't need to manage iptables with Heartbeat, right?
> > > > I think I just have to install iptables and conntrackd and to insert
> a
> > > RA
> > > > script for conntrackd like this one:
> > > >
> > >
> http://files.rfc2324.org/patches/conntrackd/heartbeat-ressources.d-script
> > >
> > > I'm afraid that it won't be that simple. conntrackd operates as a
> > > multistate (master-slave) resource, i.e. there's an instance of
> > > conntrackd running on both nodes, so you would need to implement
> > > both promote and demote operations too. Unfortunately, conntrackd
> > > can't say itself if it's a master instance or not, so you'll have
> > > to keep track of that in the resource agent. Alternatively,
> > > perhaps one could talk to the author and see if it would be
> > > possible to implement the state in conntrackd itself (I assume
> > > that that would be easier and cleaner).
> >
> >
> > Ok I will try by myself and also ask on the netfilter mailig list if
> > somebody has a clue.
> > Did anybody here ever tried to install a conntrackd RA on it's heartbeat
> > cluster?
> >
> > > what do you mean when you say you need to manage ssh sessions? if you
> mean
> > > > > they
> > > > > go through the firewall, then the iptables stuff should fix this.
> if
> > > you
> > > > > mean
> > > > > that people connect to the firewall itself and you want the ssh
> > > session to
> > > > > failover to the backup, that's not possible.
> > > >
> > > > I would like to have my ssh user not to be deconnected when sshd
> fails
> > > on a
> > > > node and has to be relaunched on another. I wish the session could
> be
> > > kept
> > > > safe...
> > >
> > > I'm not sure if this is possible at all, at least not unless sshd
> > > cooperates. You should talk about that with the ssh developers.
> >
> >
> > Ok thanks.
> >
> > > And does nobody knows anything about this Stateful RA?
> > > >
> > > > sébastien Lorandel.
> > > >
> >
> >
> >
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