On Nov 7, 2007, at 5:50 PM, Alan Robertson wrote:

Andrew Beekhof wrote:
On Nov 7, 2007, at 9:16 AM, matilda matilda wrote:
A comment to what Kevin Tomlinson said:
I would also be happy if a problem of the HA subsystem would have no impact on the availability of a services controlled by HA. Or better if HA would heal
the appropriate subprocess on its own.
Mostly it does - with the exception of the "heartbeat" processes
And in most cases it even does so fast enough that the DC doesn't need to take any action (zero resource downtime).
Implementing suicide guarantees that there will be downtime.

Since you're relying on STONITH for recovery, the same thing is true. There is no difference.

Please read the above sentence again and explain to me how "doesn't need to take any action" could mean that we shot the node.

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