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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Michael
> Schwartzkopff
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 12:04 PM
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> Subject: Re: [Linux-HA] Strange HB Status displayed for
> rootvs.unprivilegedusers; bug or feature?
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> Am Mittwoch, 2. Juli 2008 11:54 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> > > -----Original Message-----
> (...)
> > > Am Mittwoch, 2. Juli 2008 07:51 schrieb 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> > > (...) [Long discussion, shortened to save bandwidth]
> > >
> > > Why do you folks do not use plain SNMP? heartbeat has a
> > > wonderful subagent!
> > > SNMP is internet standard (RFC), everywhere implemented 
> and platform
> > > independend! Contrary to your own nagios installation.
> >
> > The catch here is that this HB cluster offers webservices to the WWW
> > and thus resides in our perimeter DMZ.
> > I really can't imagine that our firewall folks would 
> hapilly open ports for
> > SNMP to pass to my monitoring manager, especially as SNMP 
> (despite how
> > unfounded this prejudice may be for V3) has a pretty bad 
> repution among fw
> > admins.
> >
> > Also, even if I could persuade them I would be required to 
> rig up an snmpd
> > agent to pass caught traps to my Nagios server (though this 
> might not be
> > too dificult if I used the free and well documented 
> net-snmp suite, but in
> > any way would mean more extra work than a wee quickly 
> written custom Nagios
> > plugin for this simple purpose)
> 
> I am a firewall admin and have no problems with SNMP, even 
> SNMPv1. net-snmp 
> has a nice ACL model. So can let only the manager (nagios) 
> queuery the 
> machine. then you still can use "public" as the community string.
> 

Unfortunately, I am not a firewall admin and have only experience in this area 
from my own tinkering with Linux iptables.
Since our FW admins use different products I really cannot tell how much work 
and complaisance on their behalf this would mean.
I only had made the sad experience in the past that they are utterly reluctant 
to make any deviating concessions from their usual pattern.
But probably this is a prerequisite of their trade, who knows?
A pitty that our FW admins don't seem to share your spirit.


> nagios has the native plugin check_snmp. So your nagios can 
> check your cluster 
> for the health every 5 mins. No traps needed.
> 

Of course do I know check_snmp, but for said reasons only am using it to query 
check results from our data center environmental sensors
(e.g. temps, humidity thresholds etc.)


> Setup time for nagios/SNMP: About 10 mins. And it's really 
> working afterwards. 
> How much work is writing and testing your own nagios agent?

Ok, this may be true for mere active checks (when using vanilla check_snmp).
But even if your in posession of a valid MIB for your devices
it usually takes a wee longer to retreive the correct OIDs etc. from what you 
need to query
(except if you are doing this several times a week unlike twice a year or so 
like me, i.e. the SNMP stuff)
Then I usually also fiddle up some custom Perl plugin (for things check_snmp 
doesn't cover)
If you want to catch and forward traps to be digested by Nagios,
at least for me this would take longer for the 1st setup than the taken 
approach.

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