Hi,

On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 03:26:52PM -0400, Chase Simms wrote:
> OK.  I thought pingd was used to test connectivity and could put a node
> in a degraded state.  

pingd only updates an node status attribute in the CIB. That
attribute may then be referenced in constraints on where (and if)
to run resources.

> I thought suicide was valid because it was listed in the output from
> stonith -L.  

The suicide STONITH device does work, though I don't like it
because it depends on the node being mostly operational to
do the work.

> So, if pingd does not control killing a node, and STONITH does not
> support suicide; how does a node know to shut down when there is a
> network problem?  

The other node should shoot it. STONITH stands for Shoot The
Other Node ...

> Is the idea that if node "A" loses it's network connection, no clients
> can reach it, so it's OK for both nodes to be active?

Of course not.

> If I do give up my dreams of DR and use a cross-over, will a node fail
> automatically when it's public interface fails?  

You may stop resource depending on the attribute which pingd
generates.

Thanks,

Dejan

> Thanks,
> Chase
> 
> 
> >>> "Serge Dubrouski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 7/15/2008 2:14 PM >>>
> On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 11:40 AM, Chase Simms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > If it is the link between locations, the server that is not located
> with
> > the 3rd party address used by pingd would no longer be able to reach
> it.
> 
> pingd has nothing to do with STONITH. pingd can control where resource
> shall be started but it can't control what server has to die.
> 
> >
> >
> >>>> "Serge Dubrouski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 7/15/2008 11:34 AM >>>
> > On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 9:04 AM, Chase Simms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >> I have a cluster set up and working except STONITH.  Which means
> > it's
> >> unmanageable and not fault tolerant.  I have multiple fibre
> > connections
> >> between two geographically separated locations.  I want to have one
> > node
> >> at each location for disaster recovery.  This means I cannot use a
> >> cross-over or serial connection.  I'm really hoping to parlay this
> > into
> >> a proof of concept to sell the idea of using the other site as a
> hot
> >> site for critical systems.
> >>
> >> Right now I have them set up as:
> >>
> >> server 1 vlan 7 -> server 2 vlan 7 (public interface, shared IP)
> >> server 1 vlan 8 -> server 2 vlan 8 (DRBD replication, heartbeat)
> >>
> >> How can I configure STONITH to suicide when a connection goes down?
> >
> > I don't think that this is possible. How would you know which one of
> > the servers has to suicide if your network connection dies?
> >
> >> Right now, when I take down one interface, the ping still gets
> > through
> >> the other interface.
> >>
> >> It occurred to me to create a VLAN that will not route for the
> > private
> >> interfaces.  But that will be very difficult to push through.  Is
> > there
> >> another way?
> >>
> >> Thank you,
> >> Chase
> >>
> >>
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