>>> On 7/18/2008 at 2:06 PM, in message
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ivan
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Robert,
> 
> Thanks for clarifying it and providing some background. I knew that the
> HASI and pretty much everything behind it was a demo for Brainshare but

Nod, that was March 2006, the code was developed initially for that
demo; but then subsequently integrated, QA'd and shipped with the HASI, 
later in the year when SLES10 was released. We also gave a demo at
LinuxWorld of the shipping product later that Fall.

> that's the kind of thing we needed so bad and we use ever since (in
> production for more than a year). Failures are rare but the HASI did its
> job great several times ever since. Perhaps I shouldn't use it in prod
> but it's still cool stuff. :)

Well, it is definitely supported for production usage, as an enterprise
product; that Novell runs thru various QA processes.

>> It's been a while, but iirc, registered VMs still show up even if not 
> running;
>> because they are still known/declared resources to Xen...
> 
> Only if the VM was created by YaST GUI or some other utility perhaps
> manually registered with xm new. All my HA managed VMs are clones and
> because I change only the memory and disk bits in the xm config I do not
> suffer from VM showing up in virtman unless its running(of course all
> xenstores were cleaned at some stage). 
> 
>> Afaik today, it's still possible to start a VM without registering it, and 
> iirc
> 
> Yes, That's what I have been doing and I appreciated that I wasn't
> forced to use the xenstore, old school still works ;)

Cool ;-)

>> that's still enough also to support migration (the Xen RA was extended later
>> to support live migrate issued by Heartbeat). There might be some other
> 
> Correct. 
> 
> I can only see problem around traditional (on ocfs2 in HASI) config
> files that xen cuts the support for it one day. If that happens then
> something we may need to work out for xenstore. Not sure if it's
> possible to actually run the xentore tdb on ocfs2 mount on all HASI
> nodes? That's what we do for the config files so in theory it should
> work. Somebody had similar issue in another topic recently about syncing
> xenstore and I think 1 db would be the answer not the sync.

Hmm, I wonder if the xend would support that, it's an interesting 
idea. I think others have also suggested loading Heartbeat's CIB with
more even config; perhaps to the point of avoiding local config files
altogether. But things should continue to work "as-designed"; plus also
in general, remaining backwards compatible has been a goal too...

Hth,
Robert


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