On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 07:33:19PM +0200, Andrew Beekhof wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Dejan Muhamedagic<[email protected]> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 03:58:19PM +0200, Andrew Beekhof wrote:
> >> On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 3:56 PM, Terry L.
> >> Inzauro<[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Ok. I am indeed using 'external/ssh' as the stonith device.   I figure 
> >> > it was better than nothing as I do not have access to
> >> > a hardware stonith device.  In you opinion, is using the 'external/ssh'  
> >> > plugin 'better' than NOT using a stonith plugin at all?
> >>
> >> personally, i think so.
> >> but there are plenty that disagree.
> >
> > Ah, that would include me :)
> >
> > If the stonith device fails to fence the failing node then there
> > is no failover and you get zero availability.
> 
> But at least your data isn't corrupt.
> What's the point of being up if you're serving up garbage?

Well, the idea was not to drop fencing, but to get a proper
device. It would be madness to run shared storage and non-cluster
filesystems without stonith. Besides, I really can't imagine a
good argument not to have a fencing device.

Cheers,

Dejan

> > The probability
> > that that happens is much higher when using a device such as
> > external/ssh since it depends on both the network availability
> > and the OS health. I'll leave it to you to figure out in how many
> > ways these two dependencies can hinder a fencing operation.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Dejan
> >
> >
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