Hi,

On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 06:30:15PM +0100, Alexander Fisher wrote:
> On 19 May 2010 12:20, Dejan Muhamedagic <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 11:10:06AM +0100, Alexander Fisher wrote:
> >> On 19 May 2010 10:55, Dejan Muhamedagic <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 06:24:34PM +0100, Alexander Fisher wrote:
> >> >> > We have a pair of servers in a cluster plugged into a pair of APC
> >> >> > rack-mounted PDU's of the sort that could be controlled by this 
> >> >> > stonith
> >> >> > plugin. My problem is that these are dual power supply servers, which
> >> >> > means I would have to shut down two outlets that are on on two 
> >> >> > different
> >> >> > PDUs to completely power off one of the nodes. Is it possible to use
> >> >> > this stonith plugin to do that? The documentation on configuring 
> >> >> > outlet
> >> >> > numbers (from "crm ra info stonith:external/rackpdu") is a bit sparse;
> >> >> > it isn't clear that what I want to do is even possible.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > --Greg
> >> >>
> >> >> Hi Greg.
> >> >>
> >> >> I'm in the process of setting up exactly the same thing.
> >> >> Do you know that on APC PDUs, you can group outlets across several
> >> >> physical PDUs?  I've got a bit more testing to do, but this seems to 
> >> >> work ok.
> >> >> The plugin is configured to talk to just one outlet on one of the PDUs 
> >> >> and the
> >> >> PDU does the rest.
> >> >
> >> > That's cool. Do you have a link to the documentation describing
> >> > this.
> >>
> >> http://www.apcmedia.com/salestools/ASTE-6Z6KAV_R1_EN.pdf
> >>
> >> "A global outlet group consists of one or more outlets on a Switched Rack 
> >> PDU.
> >> One outlet is configured as a global outlet, which logically links the
> >> outlet group to
> >> outlet groups on up to three other Switched Rack PDUs. All outlets in the 
> >> linked
> >> global outlet groups are synchronized."
> >
> > There's now a README for the rackpdu which mentions this feature
> > and contains relevant URLs. Many thanks!
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Dejan
> 
> Hi Again.
> 
> A word of warning.  If the two PDUs can't communicate (perhaps a
> switch is down or a bad cable)
> and you fire the reset command at the PDU you can talk to, it'll
> appear to have worked
> (from the clusters perspective), but obviously won't.

That's really bad. Is the firmware up to date? At any rate,
you should report this to the vendor.

Thanks,

Dejan

> I don't know how worried about this I should be.  Should I be worried
> about stonith working if I've
> got a switch failure?
> 
> I think I'll use IPMI and rackpdu in the same configuration.
> If I connect both PDUs to the same switch and all IPMI ports to the
> other, I *think* everything will be fine,
> in the event of either a switch failure or a power failure leading to
> one dead PDU and one dead switch.
> 
> I think I need to draw a diagram! :)
> 
> Is this a text only mailing list or can I attach images (my ascii art sucks)?
> 
> Kind regards,
> Alex
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