06.06.2013 08:14, Andrew Beekhof wrote:
> 
> On 06/06/2013, at 2:50 PM, Vladislav Bogdanov <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> 06.06.2013 07:31, Andrew Beekhof wrote:
>>>
>>> On 06/06/2013, at 2:27 PM, Vladislav Bogdanov <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> 05.06.2013 02:04, Andrew Beekhof wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 05/06/2013, at 5:08 AM, Ferenc Wagner <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dejan Muhamedagic <[email protected]> writes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 03, 2013 at 06:19:06PM +0200, Ferenc Wagner wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've got a script for resource creation, which puts the new resource in
>>>>>>>> a shadow CIB together with the necessary constraints, runs a simulation
>>>>>>>> and finally offers to commit the shadow CIB into the live config (by
>>>>>>>> invoking an interactive crm).  This works well.  My concern is that if
>>>>>>>> somebody else (another cluster administrator) changes anything in the
>>>>>>>> cluster configuration between creation of the shadow copy and the
>>>>>>>> commit, those changes will be silently reverted (lost) by the commit.
>>>>>>>> Is there any way to avoid the possibility of this?  According to
>>>>>>>> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.highavailability.pacemaker/11021,
>>>>>>>> crm provides this functionality for its configure sessions [*], but the
>>>>>>>> shadow CIB route has good points as well (easier to script via 
>>>>>>>> cibadmin,
>>>>>>>> simulation), which I'd like to use.  Any ideas?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Record the two epoch attributes of the cib tag at the beginning
>>>>>>> and check if they changed just before applying the changes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe I don't understand you right, but isn't this just narrowing the
>>>>>> time window of the race?  After all, that concurrent change can happen
>>>>>> between the epoch check and the commit, can't it?
>>>>>
>>>>> The CIB will refuse to accept any update with a "lower" version:
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>> http://clusterlabs.org/doc/en-US/Pacemaker/1.1-pcs/html/Pacemaker_Explained/_configuration_version.html
>>>>
>>>> I recall that LDAP has similar problem, which is easily worked around
>>>> with specifying two values, one is original, second is new.
>>>> That way you tell LDAP server:
>>>> Replace value Y in attribute X to value Z. And if value is not Y at the
>>>> moment of modification request, then command fails.
>>>
>>> "cibadmin --patch" works this way
>>
>> Who is baking new CIB in that case, cibadmin or cib?
> 
> The patch is applied on the server - so "cib"

Ah, one more question. The whole modification request is rejected if any
of patch hunks fail, correct?

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