Linux-Hardware Digest #847, Volume #9 Fri, 26 Mar 99 20:13:28 EST
Contents:
Re: undelete ("Bob Glover")
Re: Is Windows for idiots? (Re: X munges the graphics card?) ("Charles R. Lyttle")
Re: USB zip drive (Kyle Dansie)
Re: Multi-processor servers (Johan Kullstam)
Re: 2nd Hard Drive (Chris Osuch)
network is unreachable ("MB")
Re: pppd dies on connect. without warning." to nick brown " (Watcher)
Re: Dual PPro (Colin)
Re: Creative Sound Blaster 128 PCI (Shonne Beavers)
Re: 2nd Hard Drive ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: XIRCOM 10/100 Ethernet PCMCIA card (Mohd H Misnan)
Re: The Kyle is a Fink! Was: Re: XF86 and ThinkPad 560 (Kyle Fink)
USENIX Annual Conference, June 6-11, Monterey CA (Jennifer Radtke)
Missing SCSI drive ("Eric Webster")
zip drive and epson stylus 600 printer (Ian Fiske)
pppd still dies with out warning! (Watcher)
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From: "Bob Glover" <app1rtg_at_air.ups.com>
Subject: Re: undelete
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 21:21:57 -0000
Try looking for debugfs. You need to be root to do this. You also need to
know what you're doing too! It's very low-level and not guaranteed to work
either. I've never used it.
Lew Pitcher wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>This is a strange product to be recommending to a Linux user. From the doc
on the website
>Recover98 is a Win95/WinNT recovery product, and has nothing to do with
Linux.
>
>From http://www.phoenixware.com/recover98_ver2.5.html
>
>Recover98 v2.50
>
>Finally a Product with no gray area, no excuses; if you can F-Disk and
Format a Drive, We
>Guarantee to recover all data previously on the drive! Recover98 is the
first true 32 bit
>file recovery available. Recover98 allows the recovery of valuable lost
files on hard disk
>drives running the Windows95 or WindowsNT 4.0 operating system on IBM
compatible, Intel
> ===========================================
>based machines. For the first time a total solution is available for all
Microsoft file
>
==============
>systems, allowing for fast, safe, and reliable file recovery with the ease
of use of the
>=======
>Windows environment.
>
>Recover98 is compatible with all Windows 95/98 beta and WindowsNT 4.0/5.0
beta releases.
>
=============================================
>Recover98 supports multi-boot, striped, spanned and mirrored drives as well
as all
>versions of RAID.
>
>On Fri, 26 Mar 1999 17:49:56 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>>In article <7ddhe4$lea$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>> "Karim Sharif" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> HELP!, I just lost a significant enough amount of work that I REALLY
>>> need to get back.
>>>
>>> Any Ideas??
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Karim
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>
>>>
>>I saw your posting and thought you may be interested in Recover98.Have a
look
>>At http://www.phoenixware.com Contact me, Robert Burns at 888-447-1291
ext.163
>>if you need
>>any assistance. Hope this helps you solve some problems in the future.
>>Sincerely,
>>Robert Burns
>
>
>
>Lew Pitcher
>System Consultant, Integration Solutions Architecture
>Toronto Dominion Bank
>
>([EMAIL PROTECTED])
>
>
>(Opinions expressed are my own, not my employer's.)
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From: "Charles R. Lyttle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Is Windows for idiots? (Re: X munges the graphics card?)
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 22:40:29 GMT
For the kind of stuff they do the OS and languages matter little. The
only thing she really had that none of the Windows systems had was the
ability to run scripts and LaTeX (which makes very good reports). I was
lucky enough to have teachers who wern't afraid to not know everything
but were willing to help us learn.
I had to ground my daughter though. She shouldn't have been doing the
other kids homework. If the other kids had been there and been using
the computer with her help, that would have been OK. But she did the
work while they went to the mall.
Steve wrote:
>
> Knowledge is wonderful and you should be very proud of your daughter
> for not following the mainstream and doing what she enjoys.
>
> Since all the schools in my area now run Windows I have surrendered
> and find that the kids (3 of them 9,9 and 13) are very productive
> under Windows.
> They can easily pull data right off the net, assemble it in tables and
> generate a report using Lotus Smartsuite, with a few clicks of the
> mouse. No Perl or Java needed.
>
> I run a Linux box also but they show no interest in it yet, preferring
> to get their homework done quickly with a minimum of computer fussing
> and compatibility with what they are learning in school.
>
> BTW you are correct about the teachers. I just went to the school
> science fair the other night and got my first tour of the computer
> labs. I asked the teacher what type of network OS they were running
> and she couldn't tell me.......The Novell sign on banner was displayed
> on most of the monitors :( sad....very sad....
>
> Steve
>
> On Fri, 26 Mar 1999 03:56:40 GMT, "Charles R. Lyttle"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >I don't know about Junior, but I found out my daughter was selling
> >reports to other kids in her class. She found out how to use Linux and
> >Perl to get stuff from the net and print it out in a format for school.
> >Her home system is lots more powerful with Linux, Java, Perl, Applix,
> >etc. than the computers at school. The teachers are so afraid the kids
> >will do something naughty at school that nothing interesting is ever
> >done there.
> >
> >Steve wrote:
> >>
> >> Until Junior comes home from school as says "hey dad we use this neat
> >> program in class for whatever, can we get a copy so I can run it at
> >> home?"
> >>
> >> Steve
> >>
> >> On Thu, 25 Mar 1999 15:20:51 -0700, "D. C. Sessions"
> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Steve wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Yes and I agree. We need to smooth the rough edges and make the tools
> >> >> easier to use. This way the new users discovering Linux can exploit
> >> >> the power of said tools without getting frustrated.
> >> >
> >> >Interesting experiment going on at home on that front. I'm
> >> >the sysadmin and the (nontechnical, or perhaps technophobic)
> >> >spouse and kids are the clueless users.
> >> >
> >> >So far, Linux with KDE is at least as popular with them as
> >> >LoseDoze, and *my* job is tremendously easier.
> >> >
> >> >> Snipped a lot of stuff to save cycles....
> >> >> On 15 Mar 1999 11:47:20 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joseph T. Adams) wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >Steve ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> >> >> >: Amen...A word that is mentioned quite infrequently in this group,
> >> >> >: productivity.
> >> >>
> >> >> >Linux was not aimed at the "general public" until very recently. Its
> >> >> >application base was and is quite adequate for the great majority of
> >> >> >existing Linux users, and is rapidly expanding to take into account
> >> >> >the different needs and preferences of the "general public" as well.
--
Russ Lyttle, PE
<http://www.flash.net/~lyttlec>
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Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 16:28:32 -0700
From: Kyle Dansie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: USB zip drive
Daniel E. Lucente wrote:
>
> I am running RedHat 5.2 w/ kernel 2.2.3 (soon to be 2.2.4). My question is,
> is it possible to use a USB zip drive. I know that there is USB support in
> linux, but I have only heard of people getting keyboards and mouses to work.
>
> Any answers, or URL's pointing me in the right direction would be great
> apreciated.
>
> Dan
I do not think that anyone is working on the USB Zip driver yet. However
if you have some time to contribute some code
http://peloncho.fis.ucm.es/~inaky/uusbd-www/news.html
Cheers,
Kyle Dansie
--
========================================================
Linux Rules Iomega Zip Drive Mini - HOWTO
-
http://njtcom.com/dansie/zip-drive.html
or
http://metalab.unc.edu/mdw/HOWTO/mini/ZIP-Drive.html
========================================================
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From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Multi-processor servers
Date: 26 Mar 1999 16:44:23 -0500
"Robert J. Sprawls" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hello,
> According to the documentation, Linux supports up to 16
> processors. Are there any servers out there that can run 16
> processors?
yes. however, don't look for intel based solutions. try non-intel
vendors such as sun.
> All I see nowadays is four. The most I've ever seen is 8
> and that was a DEC rack system. Also, a kernel question. In a
> multithreaded app under Linux on a multi-processor box, would
> threads get a processor? Ex: If I design a server with 4 threads,
> and run it on a server with 8 processors, would the four threads
> each get their own processor?
essentially yes, -- depending on what else you are doing. obviously,
if you have more tasks than processors, you will be serial
multi-tasking them. tasks also wander about somewhat from processor
to processor. but i have run four jobs keeping all four cpus of a
quad continuously hot for weeks at a time. the quad speed on my
application is four itmes that of my single cpu box, but ymmv.
--
johan kullstam
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From: Chris Osuch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 2nd Hard Drive
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 18:17:42 -0500
Darren wrote:
===========snip===
> I have figured out that the problem is that when I mount the
> drive, only the owner has read-write acces on it. I can set the
> permissions
> on the mount point before I mount it so that the owner/group have
> read-write
> access but after it is mounted it is changed so that only the owner has
> read
> write permission.
===========snip===
I believe that's the way vfat or msdos file systems work. Once
"user" is set in /etc/fstab, as you have done, when any user
does:
mount /mnt/docs
that user will be assigned user.group ownership of the entire
tree. Manually mounting with the above command allows you to do
your thing, but at boot root is the user (?) so the automounted
file system has user.group of root.root.
Permissions down the tree can't be changed to rwxrwxrwx, in my
experience. This behavior is different from that of the ext2
file system.
If you use the word "users" (plural) in fstab any user can
unmount the mounted file system. This might be helpful if you
automount it. (See man mount.) But it might be unhelpful if
you have a multi-user box.
Chris Osuch
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From: "MB" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: network is unreachable
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 23:49:06 +0100
I have installed my "SMC etherEZ" network card in the kernel. (smc ultra).
Everything goes fine on booting. the kernel detects my card on the right io
and irq (kernel 2.2.4). But when i try to ping or try to access my
linux-system from somewhere else on the network it says: network is
unreachable.
What have i done wrong???
P.S. when i had kernel 2.0.34 it worked just fine.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Watcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: pppd dies on connect. without warning." to nick brown "
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 17:18:28 -0600
**Nick Brown wrote:
> Try removing (if you have it) the "auth" line from /etc/ppp/options.
> Does that help ?
>
> "Michael W. Ryder" wrote:
> >
> > I had the same type of problem with kppp and downloaded ezppp and had no
> > further problems. Interestingly, the script I use with ezppp works but
> > will not work with kppp (pppd daemon unexpectedly died).
>
> --
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
> Nick Brown, Strasbourg, France (Nick(dot)Brown(at)coe(dot)fr)
>
> Protect yourself against Word 95/97 viruses, free - check out
> http://www.geocities.com/NapaValley/Vineyard/1446/atlas-t.html
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
i don't have naything in my options file, ezppp has it all built in
bill
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From: Colin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Dual PPro
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 19:26:46 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Reminds me of a question I've been meaning to ask: When will 2.2.x be
> officially released? I like to stick with RedHat releases, but I am also
> running a dual PPro and would like to move forward. I just don't want the
> pain of running beta software :-)
Huh? There have already been _5_ releases of the 2.2.x kernel (the latest
being 2.2.4 of course). Look at http://www.kernel.org/
--
Reply to "cwv [at] idirect (dot) com"
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From: Shonne Beavers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Creative Sound Blaster 128 PCI
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 07:11:45 -0600
Matthew Callaway wrote:
>
> Just a second. I also have this card. It works fine, no difficulty.
>
> Matt
How did you get it work?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: 2nd Hard Drive
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 23:51:15 GMT
Darren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: I have this in the /etc/fstab file:
: /dev/hdc1 /mnt/docs vfat user 0 0
Try something like this:
/dev/hdc1 /mnt/docs vfat user,rwx,noauto,nodev,nosuid,umask=0 1 1
Best regards,
Stephen Jenuth
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mohd H Misnan)
Subject: Re: XIRCOM 10/100 Ethernet PCMCIA card
Date: 26 Mar 1999 07:36:14 GMT
On Fri, 26 Mar 1999 01:17:50 +0100, Herger Peter wrote:
>Hello
>
>How can I run my XIRCOM 10/100 Ethernet card under RedHat Linux 5..2???
>Which driver do I have to install???
I've CE3-10/100 running w/o problem on my notebook. You need pcmcia-cs
package, I've no idea what the current version, but mine, I'm using
pcmcia-cs-3.0.8. I've no idea where I got it from but I've running it
w/o much problem with credit card ethernet & credit card modem.
--
|R|Mohd H Misnan | [EMAIL PROTECTED] : [EMAIL PROTECTED] |i|
|H|Mac OS 8.5.1 &| http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/3319/ |M|
|5|Linux 2.2.4 + | We want to take over the world, but we don't have |a|
|2|AMD K6-2/300 | to do it tomorrow. It's OK by next week - Linus T.|c|
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From: Kyle Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: The Kyle is a Fink! Was: Re: XF86 and ThinkPad 560
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 09:31:46 -0700
Were both men of the world, threats do not become us.
Kyle
Lee Sharp wrote:
>
> Kyle Fink wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>
> |If you are interested in a commercial X server, Xi Graphics'
> |Accelerated-X Display Server supports the IBM Thinkpad 560 in all modes
> |and resolutions fully hardware accelerated. The resolutions include
> |1280x1024, 1024x768, 800x600, 640x480, the color depths include 24bpp,
> |16bpp, 15bpp, and 8bpp. Accelerated-X performance is 2X any other
> |server on the market. The install and setup take about 10 minutes with
> |our auto-detect/menu driven process. Try our free demo at:
> |http://www.xig.com/Pages/DemoInstructions.html. The demo like our
> |regular product comes with free unlimited tech. support via phone or
> |email.
>
> |If you have any questions please don't hesitate to contact me.
>
> |Kyle
>
> OK, Kyle... 6 of the 12 new messages here are you saying the EXACT same
> thing to everyone here. There are several reasons why this is wrong.
> First, it is rude and tacky. <not that you care, your in sales. ;-) >
> Second, most Linux users are also people that have an involvement in running
> the Internet. People here are much more likely to torpedo you for SPAM than
> elsewhere. Third, it annoys people who might otherwise recommend you. I
> know it makes me only want to point out that MetroLink at
> http://www.metrolink.com/ also offers a nice selection of X servers, and at
> a more attractive price... Fourth, Linux is Open Source, so we have a
> natural aversion to closed source commercial software. You need to overcome
> that with kindness, not a club.
> Welcome to the Linux community. Watch your step. :-)
>
> Lee
> --
> SCSI is *NOT* magic. There are *fundamental technical reasons* why it is
> necessary to sacrifice a young goat to your SCSI chain now and then. *
> Black holes are where God divided by zero. - I am speaking as an individual,
> not as a representative of any company, organization or other entity. I am
> solely responsible for my words.
--
Kyle Fink
Account Executive
Xi Graphics, Inc. http://www.xig.com
1801 Broadway, Suite 1710 Denver, CO 80202 USA
Voice: Toll free: 1-800-946-7433, World wide: +1.303.298.7478
Fax: +1.303.298.1406
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Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.x
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jennifer Radtke)
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Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 23:52:12 GMT
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From: "Eric Webster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: Missing SCSI drive
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 17:11:35 -0600
I have an adaptec aha2940UW with 5 drives: 3 seagates (ID's 0, 1, 2) and two
IBM hot-swappables (ID 3, 4). The seagates are on an internal 68 pin bus and
the two IBM's are on an external 68 pin bus feeding into an IBM 3518
expansion box. I use automatic termination.
When my system boots the Adaptec shows me all 5 drives, and can verify all
5.
When linux (RH 5.2) boots the AHA module only shows me 4 - the seagates on
ID's 0 and 1, and the IBM's on ID 3 and 4. The third seagate on ID 2 never
appears, is never given a /dev/sdc listing, nothing.
I used to have the same 3 drives plus a low speed periph on a 50 pin bus - I
disconnected that and plugged it plus a 4mm tape drive into an Advansys, and
added the two IBM drives to the adaptec. RH used to play nice with the third
seagate, so I doubt it's a hardware fault (plus I can verify the drive on
boot). RH 5.2 sees the advansys chain well also.
Any ideas how to reclaim my lost drive? Natch the new drives are empty and
the missing one has 6 GB of stuff I need!
Thanks!
Eric
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From: Ian Fiske <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: zip drive and epson stylus 600 printer
Date: 26 Mar 1999 23:32:01 GMT
hi,
i have redhat 5.2 and have upgraded the kernel to 2.2.4. but i have been
unable to get my printer to work in conjunction with my parallel port
iomega zip drive. the zip drive works fine, but just not the printer. and
i know that i have installed parallel printer support...i just can't figure
this out. the error message is
lpr: connect: Connection refused
jobs queued, but cannot start daemon
(from netscape, when trying to print a page)
i would really appreciate any help with this so that i won't have to use
winbloze to word process, etc.
thanks,
ian
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From: Watcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: pppd still dies with out warning!
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 18:15:28 -0600
I have linux on a P24T ( 83MHz), 16meg's ram, hayes modem,
I'm using kppp to connect to my isp and just after the username and
password my pppd dies. any ideals?
thank you
bill
::
::
i tried ezppp and it does the same thing. i followed the howto and i
still get the same thing. and ideals?
bill
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