Linux-Hardware Digest #896, Volume #9 Thu, 1 Apr 99 15:13:33 EST
Contents:
Re: Help me spend $2,000 on a new Linux-based computer (David Fox)
3Com card problem... (Skarekrough)
Re: All the current OSes are idiotic (was Re: Is Windows for idiots?) ("J�rgen
Exner")
Re: Idea: Make a seperate "i686" tree for Redhat Linux 6.0 (Bill Anderson)
Re: What is /proc ??? (Lew Pitcher)
Re: All the current OSes are idiotic (was Re: Is Windows for idiots?) (Greg Yantz)
need help promoting linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Trident 9750 AGP problem (Andrew Comech)
can UM8886A IDE chip do DMA? (Georg Schwarz)
Re: Alphas for the Intel-centric ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: CD Autochangers (Teac CD-C68E) (Piniek aka Piotr Ingling)
Re: Alphas for the Intel-centric (David Fox)
Re: Help me spend $2,000 on a new Linux-based computer (David Fox)
Re: help me please!!! (root)
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From: d s f o x @ c o g s c i . u c s d . e d u (David Fox)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Help me spend $2,000 on a new Linux-based computer
Date: 01 Apr 1999 07:00:42 -0800
"David Lloyd-Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> <d s f o x @ c o g s c i . u c s d . e d u (David Fox)> wrote >
> > That's not correct. There are just a few million receptors in your
> > eyes,
>
> As against say 768X1024 (is it?) = 3/4ths of a meg pixels on the screen.
>
> > but the resolution is highly concentrated in the center of
> your
> > field of vision. Eye motion creates the experience of a large area of
> > high resolution.
>
> Even if you didn't do-the-pigeon, your concentrated area sitting still would
> be bored by a normal screen.
While there are 150,000,000 receptors in the Human eye, there are only
1,000,000 optic nerve fibers, so the number of `pixels' is about that
of a high resolution computer monitor (mine is 1600x1024.) However,
the eyes are capable of moving at a speed of about 500 degrees per
second. Since the concentrated area is about the size of a single
character on the screen, without eye motion you would be indeed be
bored no matter what or who was in front of your face. (Unless there
was some good music playing.)
--
David Fox http://hci.ucsd.edu/dsf xoF divaD
UCSD HCI Lab baL ICH DSCU
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Skarekrough)
Subject: 3Com card problem...
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 09:48:24 -0500
Greetings....
Im running a 3Com 3C509B netowk card and am having some
problems. The first reason that Im suspecting is that under my current
installation of Red Hat 5.1 there is no specofocation for the 3Com 3C509B,
but for the 3Com 3C509 network card. Will that setting be adequate to
work?
Also, my main issue at this point in time involves not seeing RX
packets being passed (this is from a ifconfig generated report). What
typically causes errors like this? The numbers seem correct for my
college's LAN. However I have no idea what Bcast is or what it stands for
(if anyone could tell me Id be greatly appreciative).
Thank you for your time...
EC
--
"Smash the control images....
Smash the control machine..." -WSB
http://falcon.fsc.edu/~ecarpenter
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From: "J�rgen Exner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: All the current OSes are idiotic (was Re: Is Windows for idiots?)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 10:58:16 -0800
Reply-To: "J�rgen Exner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Anthony Ord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On 30 Mar 1999 17:56:00 -0500, Johan Kullstam
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >Zenin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> <snippy poos>
> >what i want is a two-step process whereby i can mark files and then
> >once i am satisfied that i've marked the correct ones, i could delete
> >them in one shot. marking would be useful for all sorts of things,
> >e.g., moving files, submitting them to an application. i guess the
> >shell could keep track of the file marks.
>
> Use mc. You can tag files and perform arbitrary actions on
> the tagged files.
Or use the diredit mode of emacs
jue
--
J�rgen Exner
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From: Bill Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.misc,linux.redhat.misc,alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Idea: Make a seperate "i686" tree for Redhat Linux 6.0
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 18:23:24 +0000
Enkidu wrote:
>
> Johan Kullstam wrote:
> >
> > Enkidu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > > Bloatware. I suppose you'd go for it if someone were to meet you
> > > at the door of the supermarket, sent you round to the exit, and
> > > insisted that you take a trolley, packed the way that *they*
> > > decide is best.
> >
> > no one makes you install these things.
> >
> No indeed, but lots of people do. Lots of people also install
> Microsoft products too.
>
> All RedHat does is pull together a consistent set of stuff so that
> people don't have to do it themselves. That's good. But to suggest
> that they actually add value apart from that is rubbish.
The developers at RH *do* produce code. They *do* do more than just
collect Linux apps into one.
Various things they do have been pointed out here in this thread. Among
them are sysadmin apps, and the install process, as well as RPM itsself.
To ignore these facts, and claim they donothing other than collect
stuff, is to appear foolish.
>
> > there is a pristine source in the source rpm along with
> > redhat's patches which are distinct diff files. you can still
> > apply your own patches. you can remove the redhat patches.
> >
> Indeed you can, unless you are prepared to take the risk of losing
> some feature in the process! You could, of course, look at the
> diffs, look at your patch (which you may have got elsewhere), and
> try to figure out what will fit and what you want and what will
> really happen. Great fun, I'm sure.
Why look at diffs? Just look at the patches. If you are the sort of
person who is comfortable with kernel compiling, you damn well better be
able to look at patches. The patches are applied in the process of
building the rpm. The sources are pristine. You want to know what
differences their patches make? DL the soource rpm and look at the
patches themselves. Want some, but not others? Remove the ones you don't
want and build the rpm, or apply only the ones you do want and compile
the kernel on your own. Before making remarks like this, it would help
if you actually looked at the process and source before posting
misinformation.
> > yes there are. no one makes you use redhat. if you do not
> > care for redhat, do not use it. redhat does have actual
> > problems. i challenge you to find them and not just make up
> > random lies.
> >
> I'm sorry that I am nor a follower of the One True Red Hat
> religion. I challenge you to point out where I lied. For what it
> is worth, I've not had any problem with my copy of Redhat. It's
> pretty neat so long as you don't mind being led by the nose.
>
> Cliff
Wile I am not the one who posted that you lied, I will say that you are
posting information which is innacurate.
To have lied would mean you did so intentionally. RH does not have to
lead you around by the nose. If you are willing to learn system
administration, or already know it, you can use the redhat tools for a
great many things. I admin a few dozen Linux boxes, and have converted
them to either RH or added rpm to them simply because it makes my life
that much easier. As with anything, once you begin to look at it in
depth, you realize there is a lot more there.
--
Bill Anderson Linux Administrator
MCS-Boise (ARC) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
My opinions are just that; _my_ opinions.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lew Pitcher)
Subject: Re: What is /proc ???
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 15:13:34 GMT
On Thu, 01 Apr 1999 14:09:01 +0100, "Mortimer, Ian
(EXCHANGE:MDN03:4634)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>I have been trying to get my ZIP SCSI Insider working under SuSE Linux
>(2.0.36 Kernel).
>
>I have recompiled my kernel with SCSI Disk support and support for the
>aha152x series of cards and also the Generic SCSI disk support.
>
>I have added the line
>
>append="aha152x=0x140,9,7,1"
>
>to my lilo.conf.
>
>Now if I reboot and look in my /proc/scsi directory I see a directory
>called aha152x and a file called scsi. (see below)
>If I go into the aha152x directory I see a file called 0 wich coincides
>with the SCSI id of my ZIP (checked the jumpers).
>
>What does this mean ???
The /proc file is showing you the kernel status of your SCSI bus, and
device 0 in particular. /proc is a phantom file system constructed by
the kernel for reporting/setting kernel information. It doesn't give
you access to devices
>Can I mount this or what ?
No, but you should be able to mount /dev/sd0 (scsi device 0)
>Any help appreciated.
Lew Pitcher
System Consultant, Development Services
Toronto Dominion Bank
(Opinions expressed are my own, not my employers')
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From: Greg Yantz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: All the current OSes are idiotic (was Re: Is Windows for idiots?)
Date: 01 Apr 1999 14:27:04 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anthony Ord) writes:
> >what i want is a two-step process whereby i can mark files and then
> >once i am satisfied that i've marked the correct ones, i could delete
> >them in one shot. marking would be useful for all sorts of things,
> >e.g., moving files, submitting them to an application. i guess the
> >shell could keep track of the file marks.
>
> Use mc. You can tag files and perform arbitrary actions on
> the tagged files.
You might also want to have a look at using emacs in dired mode.
(short for directory edit). You can browse directories and their
contents, mark files for deletion, load them for editing with one
keypress...
-Greg
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: need help promoting linux
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 17:14:35 GMT
Howdy, first of all, let me appologize for the large list of newsgroups i
posted this to. I need to get this out to as many people as i can.
I work for American Show Management, we do Trade shows, technology trade
shows. I am looking for a way to have a linux educational conference at the
Rochester ITEC that is coming up June 22-23rd. I want to have a consortium
of accomplished linux users, hardware people and programmers for a mini
conference-in-conference. I need some help figuring out who would be
interested in this. Primarily, i need heavy hitters that can contribute.
Who is backing linux right now, hardware-wise? major companies, compaq,
dell, ibm. I primarily need to know who i could contact to offer
sponsorships to this event, to defray the costs of the conference. i would
appreciate any responses to [EMAIL PROTECTED] as i can't check the ng's
very often. thank you in advance for any input.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Comech)
Subject: Re: Trident 9750 AGP problem
Date: 1 Apr 1999 10:34:59 -0500
In article <7dug57$cci$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, mikeytan wrote:
>
>My display card is Trident 9750, AGP
>version 6.45 - 3D Image or
>I can use an Intel 740, OEM.
>
Hi Michael,
Trident 9750 is a touch one to run X. There were many complaints
about its support, you may search the newsgroup or look up these
messages in searchlinux.com
The bottom line is that this card usually supports resolutions
640x480 and 800x600, and _under some circumstances_ 1200x1024
and _maybe_ 1024x768, but this is far from being reliable.
Presently I run it at 800x600, with Xfree86 upgraded to the version
3.3.3.1 (which is supposed to support this chipset).
You can run this card with Xfree86 3.3.2 as well (this version is
included in most Linux distributions), you need to choose XF86_SVGA
server and have the following section in /etc/X11/XF86Config file:
Section "Device"
Identifier "Jaton 3DImage9750"
VendorName "Jaton"
BoardName "3DImage9750"
#VideoRam 4096
# Insert Clocks lines here if appropriate
ClockChip "tgui"
EndSection
The key line is ClockChip "tgui".
Good luck.
You might be more successful with the other card (which I just do not know).
Cheese,
Andrew
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Georg Schwarz)
Subject: can UM8886A IDE chip do DMA?
Date: 1 Apr 1999 15:38:09 GMT
I'm currently installing Linux 2.2.4 on a 486 with PCI. Linux reports:
UM8886A: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 90
UM8886A: not 100ative mode: will probe irqs later
can this IDE chip use DMA?
what does the second line mean?
--
Georg Schwarz ([EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], PGP 2.6ui)
Institut f�r Theoretische Physik +49 30 314-24254 FAX -21130 IRC kuroi
Technische Universit�t Berlin http://home.pages.de/~schwarz/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Alphas for the Intel-centric
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 11:05:18 +0059
Daniel Bowkley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: I've ben thinking lately of upgrading my system to a DEC Alpha, but I
: know almost nothing of this architecture save for its incredible speed.
Don't forget that it is a 64 bit architecture. This is good news for speed,
but bad news from compatibility. Many programs assume:
sizeof (int) == sizeof (void *) which is not true for 64 bit machines. This
can cause many problems, and quite a lot of code will not compile cleanly on
Alphas. For example, I recently needed a WAV file editor. I could not find
a binary for an Alpha which did what I needed, so I downloaded 10 different
programs as source code. After spending several evenings on the problem I
still haven't got one working properly. Be ready for these frustrations!!
: How can I get ahold of a chip+motherboard combo? How much do they
: cost? And are they AT, ATX, or some other form factor?
There are lots of people selling Alpha motherboards at very reasonable
prices. A few months ago I bought a 533MHz 21164, an LX164 motherboard with
2 Mb cache and 128 Mb RAM for 1000 pounds (UK) (about $1500?). Computer
stuff is cheaper in the states and prices are bound to have come down since
then.
The motherboards are usually standard ATX format, although you may need to
make your own plate to go around the serial and keyboard connectors (I used
some cardboard).
For a list of suppliers check out http://www.alphalinux.org/hardware
Good luck,
--
============================================================================
Richard Simpson
Farnborough, Hants, Uk Fax: 01252 392118
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I am not aware of any views shared by myself and my employers.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Piniek aka Piotr Ingling)
Subject: Re: CD Autochangers (Teac CD-C68E)
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 19:58:32 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dnia Wed, 31 Mar 1999 13:31:15 +0100, Neil Burrows
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> napisa�(a):
>Hi,
>
>Can anyone tell me if there is linux support for the Teac CD-C68E 6CD
>Autochanger? (http://www.teac.com/dsp/cdc/cdc_c68.html)
>
>By support I mean the ability to switch discs remotley or automatically
>without having to press one of the buttons on the front of the drive.
>
>Just this would be really handy in a Server which is located about 40
>miles from my house/work and that's just too far to go whenever I need
>to switch a disc! :)
>
I have such a drive - there are some utils for changing the active disc (eject
being the simplest). The one I like most is cdchanger - not only it changes
discs but also takes care of remounting.
I'm not sure what you mean by 'automatic'...
Piotr Ingling
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: d s f o x @ c o g s c i . u c s d . e d u (David Fox)
Subject: Re: Alphas for the Intel-centric
Date: 01 Apr 1999 11:45:39 -0800
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stuart R. Fuller) writes:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> : Daniel Bowkley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : : I've ben thinking lately of upgrading my system to a DEC Alpha, but I
> : : know almost nothing of this architecture save for its incredible speed.
> : Don't forget that it is a 64 bit architecture. This is good news for speed,
> : but bad news from compatibility. Many programs assume:
> : sizeof (int) == sizeof (void *) which is not true for 64 bit machines.
>
> Of course, this is a case of a program that is broken, and not the case that
> the machine is incompatible.
Cold comfort.
--
David Fox http://hci.ucsd.edu/dsf xoF divaD
UCSD HCI Lab baL ICH DSCU
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From: d s f o x @ c o g s c i . u c s d . e d u (David Fox)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Help me spend $2,000 on a new Linux-based computer
Date: 31 Mar 1999 06:04:30 -0800
"David Lloyd-Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Richard Stovall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
> > I've gotten used to an 20" SGI (Sony) monitor at work and find that I have
> a real hard time coming
> > back to my weeny little 17" number at home. Virtual desktops are cool and
> all that, but there's
> > nothing like having it all there on one screen to make you a believer in
> the big ones.
> >
>
> If you match the number of pixels on the screen against the number of rods
> and cones in your eyes, you see a sorta severe deficit. Your normal
> functioning field of vision is equal to something like four square metres of
> high density screen, I've read.
>
> Think multiple 20-inchers -- and multiple operating systems to keep 'em fed.
That's not correct. There are just a few million receptors in your
eyes, but the resolution is highly concentrated in the center of your
field of vision. Eye motion creates the experience of a large area of
high resolution.
But you're right about lots of big monitors being cool.
--
David Fox http://hci.ucsd.edu/dsf xoF divaD
UCSD HCI Lab baL ICH DSCU
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From: root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: help me please!!!
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 19:33:59 GMT
Xarj wrote:
> I had win98 installed before and i decided to install rehat 5.2..... The
> installation went fine, everything was perfect but as a newbie i was
> fiddling with the linux config and i guess i changed something important
> cause after that i wasn't able to load windows 98 NORMALY! When i type
> windows98 in lilo it says the following :
>
> loading Windows
> Warning: Logical Drives past Z exist and will be ignored
>
> and then my computer crashes....
> The only way i was able to load windows was pressing the F8 key just after i
> typed windows98 in lilo so i get this menu and load windows using the
> "confirm each thing" mode...... i found out that if i refuse to load
> DBLBUFF.SYS i could load windows....... So i was able to load windows and
> write this letter to all you nice people!
>
> When I'm in Windows and go into the explorer i see 26 drives A-Z........ A
> to F is normal and the rest is the same drive as the C one... WHAT THE
> HELL??????
>
> PLEASE HELP ME!!!!!! how can i fix that prob? THANK YOU SOOOOOO MUCH!
>
> One last thing! I tried to setup my Sound card in Linux without success.....
> I use the Guillemot Home Studio Pro 64, a sound card for pros and
> musicians..... Works great in windows 98!!!!!!!!!
>
> Thanks for the help!!!!
>
> Could you reply to my email please!!?? [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Anybody knows if a new version of RedHat is coming out soon?????
>
> THANKS!!!!
>
> Xarj
Hi,
When Lilo comes you have to type "dos" and not windows98, tell me more about
yor partitions, looks like there is a problems with the hard drive partition
Mario
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