Linux-Hardware Digest #979, Volume #9             Fri, 9 Apr 99 16:13:31 EDT

Contents:
  Vendor warning - ComputerWarehouse ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Looking for nVida TNT driver for XWindows. ("Mark Swope")
  Re: SoundBaster Live (TS Stahl)
  Re: 3com shame! ("Donaz")
  Re: 3c589D And Diskless Workstation (**Nick Brown)
  Re: Help booting from IDE disk (**Nick Brown)
  Re: Idea:  Make a seperate "i686" tree for Redhat Linux 6.0 (Matthias Warkus)
  Re: Is this a Win Modem? (Phil DeBecker)
  Re: Trouble installing XFree 3.3.3.1 (please help) (jason)
  Help, paride on alpha (Jonathan Sturges)
  Re: buslogic scsi (Trent Piepho)
  Re: Do they work - High performance RS232 serial cards? (Holger Petersen)
  Re: Any reason to avoid VAResearch or Penguin Computing? (Salvatore Restivo)
  Re: Help booting from IDE disk ("Robert J. Budden")
  Re: Newbie help please ("Bob Glover")
  OfficeJet 1170Cxi and Linux? (Peter Eacmen)
  Re: [Fwd: Source Code To Windows 98 (programmer humor) (fwd)] ("Rufus V. Smith")
  sound and video card recommendations ("Jim Ray")
  Re: [Fwd: Source Code To Windows 98 (programmer humor) (fwd)] (James Goldman)
  Re: Problem using Cd in Win98 after using Linux ("Moriarty")
  Re: [Fwd: Source Code To Windows 98 (programmer humor) (fwd)] (Michael George)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Vendor warning - ComputerWarehouse
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 15:57:32 GMT

I know alot of us are out building our own servers and workstations.

Here's an unfortunate experience I had with one vendor

ComputerWarehouse (www.computerwarehouse.com)

1) Ordered a ASUS P5A motherboard from their website.  Their online system
said it was in stock. 2) Waited a week. No delivery. 3) Hit their website to
track my order.  Guess what?  No info forthcoming!!! No record of my order.
4) Called my credit card company. As I guessed, they had ALREADY charged my
card. 5) Called ComputerWarehouse's 1-916 whatever number.  It's a voicemail
box.  No one will answer. 6) Sent email asking for info.  A day later, no
response. 7) Sent another email.  Two days later, still no response. 8) I've
had to contest the charge to my card with my credit card company. Major pain.

IMHO, WWW.COMPUTERWAREHOUSE.COM is a ripoff. I will be avoiding them like the
plague in the future.  That's COMPUTERWAREHOUSE, www.computerwarehouse, in
case you missed it earlier.

By the way, I placed an order for about 6 others items the same day with PC
Progress (http://www.pcprogress.com/)  They delivered within the week as
promised.  They're a good company in my opinion.

Sorry to occupy the forum.  But I had to vent.

R. McLin

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From: "Mark Swope" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.rpm
Subject: Re: Looking for nVida TNT driver for XWindows.
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 11:12:17 -0500

No you'll have to upgrade.  However, the XFree gods made
this a relatively painless deal, except for the fact that you
have to download about 7M of stuff.  After that, it's EASY.
And the TNT is supported pretty well, too.  Get XFree86
v.3.3.31 - you'll be glad you did.
mas

Mike Hogan wrote in message ...
>I just installed RH 5.2 on my system, but I couldn't get X-Windows to
detect
>my graphics card.
>I was wondering if there is a driver I could install without having to
>upgrade the entire X-Windows system.
>
>



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From: TS Stahl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SoundBaster Live
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 11:17:42 -0500

I just seen this in another post.

http://www.soundblaster.com/resources/news%2Dserver/faq%2Dsblive.html#3.4

I guess we will have to be patient.

Jean-Christophe Fargette wrote:

> Hi,
> I have the SoundBlaster Live sound card but I can't use it from Linux.
> I've not idea how to setup my kernel with pnp card and PCI bus.
> I'm using Suse 6.0 and kernel 2.2.5
> Thanks if somebody can help me.
> Jean-Christophe

--
Scott Stahl
MIS Asst.
Illinois Housing Development Authority
401 N. Michigan Ave. Ste. 900
Chicago, IL 60611



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From: "Donaz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 3com shame!
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 15:21:37 +0200

Ok, i answer myself...
i was lucky...
It was only a lack of card configuration!
3c5x9cfg.exe is a fantastic utility!
It was setted as ISA card!!!
But why it worked on WinNT?
All right now!
Bye...

--
========
Dove vuoi essere mandato oggi?
homepage: http://utenti.tripod.it/marrazzo
Donaz ha scritto nel messaggio <7dfht7$ec0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>hi boys,
>i have installed linux on an old bipentium (!) 90Mhz...
>with a 3Com net-device (EISA)... exactly a 3c509b...
>at start up all seems go rigth! But sothing gone left! ;-)
>The device was viewed on irq 10... Eureka!!!
>(Never say "eureka" too soon!)
>when i tried to configure the IP address the linux-box crashed as i never
>seen! (ifconfig eth0 10.0.0.1 ... after the 'enter' nothing... nothing...
>NULL!!! All breezed!)
>What goes left? Anybody have an idea?
>
>bye
>Donaz
>--
>--------
>Dove vuoi essere mandato oggi?
>homepage: http://members.xoom.com/dmarrazzo
>
>



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From: **Nick Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 3c589D And Diskless Workstation
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 17:21:38 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Get tomsrtbt from www.toms.net; it is a single-floppy boot which can
start PCMCIA and has the 3C589 driver loaded as a PCMCIA module.  It may
not do what you want, but it shows how it can be done.

"Wesley J. Janik" wrote:
> Is there anywhere I can get a driver for a 3c589D NIC that I can compile
> into the kernel?  I'm trying to my notebook into Linux with the root on
> and NFS mount, and according to the howto (NFS Root-Client mini-howto),

-- 
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From: **Nick Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help booting from IDE disk
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 17:26:17 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

/dev/hda is the master boot record.  You may not want to install LILO
there, and in any case, it can't be your root partition.  Start with
root = /dev/hda1 and go on from there.

"Robert J. Budden" wrote:
> Warning: /dev/hda is not on the first disk      (This is the line that
> tells me I have something wrong)
>         root=/dev/hda

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===============================================================
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.misc,linux.redhat.misc,alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Idea:  Make a seperate "i686" tree for Redhat Linux 6.0
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 23:34:10 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

It was the 8 Apr 1999 17:07:45 -0400...
..and Alexander Viro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Johan Kullstam  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >not if you're from a commonwealth country - which includes new zealand
> >(where is the old zealand btw?).  in *english* (as opposed to american
>                  ^^^^^^^ - Zeeland.
> 
>       Gaak... Across the North Sea (looking from England, that is).
> Netherlands. Heck, they *really* don't teach history and geography
> in schools, or what?

Not in the U.S. as far as I know.

mawa
-- 
Sometimes Usenet makes me feel like a crossbreed of Don Giovanni and
the Sorcerer's Apprentice; while around me something I created is
making all kinds of mess, I want to yell "Enough! Enough!" and wait
for the devil to get me.                                       -- mawa

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Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 12:12:02 -0400
From: Phil DeBecker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is this a Win Modem?

Credence Ross wrote:

> Ok, guys, help me out here.  Apparently I don't have a firm grasp on
> exactly what the distinguishing features of a 'win modem' are.  I've got
> this new modem, and the cd that came with it says 'PCI 56K LT WIN
> MODEM'.  So right away, I am suspicious.  I bought this in an on-line
> auction (eBay), and here are the specs they listed:
>
>          -Manufactured by Genica
>          -PCI bus
>          -Supports both K56 Flex and V.90
>           56K protocols
>          -Supports voice features through a
>           telephone handset
>          -Includes Trio application suite on CD-ROM
>          -Lucent Technologies DSP chipset
>           (one of the best, if not THE best chipset)
>          -Requires Pentium-compatible 133MHz or faster CPU and Windows
> '95, '98 or
>           NT 4.0.
>
> So, when I saw the Lucent DSP chipset, I thought I would be OK, but now
> I'm not sure.  It cam in a white box with no docs, but the model # on
> the back is CW56LU-PCI.  It's features are listed here:
> http://209.196.163.200/manuals/pci_modem_features.htm but this isn't
> very informative.  Any input on this would be appreciated.  Is there a
> SURE way to distinguish Win Modems for future reference?


This is a modem with the crap Lucent Technologies Winmodem chipset (thus
LT Winmodem).  It won't work at all under linux, and it will barely even
work under Windows.

Several others have posted URLs for good sites with winmodem information,
so I'll only add that currently ALL PCI modems are winmodems.  Not all ISA
internal modems are winmodems, but all PCI ones are.

Phil


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From: jason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Trouble installing XFree 3.3.3.1 (please help)
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 12:32:37 -0400


Maybe it's because you installed the source, and not the binaries?  I'm
thinking that when you're doing 'rpm -qa|less', you're seeing the binary
version you have installed, which is the older version.  Unless the
source is what you wanted, try downloading the binary RPMs that you need
and try again.

-jason


MoguI 55 wrote:
> 
> i downloaded the file
>       XFree86-3_3_3_1-1_1_src.rpm
> from RedHat FTP
> 
> I try installing it by typing
>     rpm -i XFree86-3_3_3_1-1_1_src.rpm
> and it takes a couple seconds and then gives me my prompt again it seemed like
> the installation went fine but when i type
>     rpm -qa | less
> the XFree version that is installed is still the previous version....
> 
> Please help
> Thanks in advance
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: Jonathan Sturges <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.alpha,linux.redhat.axp
Subject: Help, paride on alpha
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 14:15:17 -0400

Hi,
I have a Multia 166Mhz. running RH5.1 w/ 2.0.36 kernel.  I want to use my
parallel port SyQuest drive on it.  The SyQuest drive works wonderfully on
RH5.1/Intel.  However, I cannot make it work on the Alpha.

The problem seems to be on probing for the drive.  At boot time, everything
seems to initialize fine.  EPAT registers itself (it's the only protocol I
compiled in), and 'pd' loads.  However, 'pda' (pd auto-probe?) complains
that no valid drives are found.

Does anyone have paride working on RH5.x on Alpha platform?  If so, which
machine and how did you do it?  I'm hoping I just need to pass some
parameters to paride/epat/pd, but my first attempt at this yielded nothing.

Also, does anyone know if paride works on SPARCs running RH5.x?

thanks,
Jonathan


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trent Piepho)
Subject: Re: buslogic scsi
Date: 9 Apr 1999 18:06:18 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Thomas Laane  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Does anyone know what kind of scsi controller the "BusLogic BT-742AG"
>is.
>Is it wide ultra wide, scsi or scsi 2. I am not really into scsi, so
>forgive me if I said something stupped!

It's an antique, EISA bus card, fast narrow scsi.  Supported by the linux
buslogic drive though.

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Crossposted-To: alt.bbs.majorbbs,comp.bbs.majorbbs,comp.os.qnx,comp.unix.sco.misc
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Holger Petersen)
Subject: Re: Do they work - High performance RS232 serial cards?
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 15:31:39 GMT

"John Seymour" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>It's a custom application. I want to be able to connect at 460kbps or above
>and want to go as far as possible on RS232...

What about the other side?
One piece only or industrial series?
Why not RS42x?

just asking, Holger

(seems getting off-topic here?)


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From: Salvatore Restivo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Any reason to avoid VAResearch or Penguin Computing?
Date: 9 Apr 1999 18:56:33 GMT

I just upgraded from a BT946C to a BT958UW.  I have been and continue to
be a happy Buslogic/Mylex customer for the same reason.  Many thanks to LZ 
for great driver work and multi-platform support.  

Robert C. Paulsen, Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Based on this I bought my BusLogic 946C. It has proved to be rock solid.
: When I upgrade to UW someday you can bet I will go to Mylex.

-- 
Salvatore Restivo
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: "Robert J. Budden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help booting from IDE disk
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 13:56:19 -0500

I have made the change to the root variable as you recommended.  Now when I
try to boot without the floppy disk I get to "LIL"  and the system hangs.
Can you assist any further.

Bob

**Nick Brown wrote:

> /dev/hda is the master boot record.  You may not want to install LILO
> there, and in any case, it can't be your root partition.  Start with
> root = /dev/hda1 and go on from there.
>
> "Robert J. Budden" wrote:
> > Warning: /dev/hda is not on the first disk      (This is the line that
> > tells me I have something wrong)
> >         root=/dev/hda
>
> --
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
> Nick Brown, Strasbourg, France (Nick(dot)Brown(at)coe(dot)fr)
>
> Protect yourself against Word 95/97 viruses, free - check out
>  http://www.geocities.com/NapaValley/Vineyard/1446/atlas-t.html
> ---------------------------------------------------------------


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From: "Bob Glover" <app1rtg_at_air.ups.com>
Subject: Re: Newbie help please
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 17:53:40 +0100

Someone else may be able to give you better advice, but try this:

When you start X, type startx > ~/startx.txt

Close your X session immediately, so you don't experience your problems.

Then take a look at the file startx.txt in your home directory.  You should
find it informative.
Pay particular attention to the amount of RAM detected.  If you specified
the amount of RAM in /etc/XF86Config, then try commenting that out and
letting it auto-detect.  You may have a different amount of RAM on-board
than you think -- you *know* that would cause problems.  Also, look for
error messages and warnings.

Finally, let me just blindly recommend temporarily adding these options to
XF86Config in the device section for your card:

Option "no_bitblt"
Option "no_imageblt"
Option "sw_cursor"

Also, you should lookup your card in /usr/X11/lib/X11/cards and see what it
says.
I think that's the right path.  It might be ....../doc/cards, or it might be
....  someone is going to have to chime in here, because I can't remember.
I'm not a human filesystem you know!

Jim Bailey wrote in message <7el0ll$cmr$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Oops - a qualifier - I'm NOT trying to get wheel functionallity - just L-R
>buttons !
>
>Jim Bailey wrote in message <7ekvju$c3i$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>>I'm soooo close to getting running I can taste it - still some problems
>>though... I'm new to Linux (and pretty hardware ignorant) but a windows
>>developer.
>>
>>AMD K6-2 350 - 128 MB
>>ATI  Expert98 - 8MB Rage Pro Chipset - AGP
>>Hitachi 21" multiscan
>>Intellimouse Pro
>>
>>RH 5.2 Workstation installation worked fine.  I startx and it works ! I
>>guess I'm looking at 'fvwm' which, for the most part works too.  I can
>>change mouse pointers, start editors etc.
>>Where my problem begins is if I click any where on the Control Panel
>>Application - the application won't repaint, the mouse will no longer
>scroll
>>on a scroll bar - and, when I exit fvwm, I get one of two symptoms: either
>>the system hangs completely while "shutting down gpm" or, it shuts down
and
>>gets me back to the prompt, but I don't dare move the mouse because it
puts
>>garbage all over the screen until I reboot.
>>
>>Any help greatly appreciated
>>
>>-- jim bailey
>>
>>
>>
>
>



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From: Peter Eacmen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: OfficeJet 1170Cxi and Linux?
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 13:49:36 -0400

Has anyone used the OfficeJet 1170Cxi.  I was thinking of buying it.  I
would probably share it through a Win95 client because it has a lot of
features that would only work through Win95.  I would just like to do
general printing from my Linux box.

Is there any way to 'share'  a scanner over a network?

-Peter


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From: "Rufus V. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.lang.c,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.x,alt.os.linux,comp.lang.c++
Subject: Re: [Fwd: Source Code To Windows 98 (programmer humor) (fwd)]
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 15:28:46 -0400


Roger@localhost wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>On 06 Apr 1999 18:43:23 PDT, "Phlip" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>                                                we'v been having several
>>concurrent 'void main ()' threads here in C++ land for the past month
>>and I'm trying to repress them.
>
>Surely the idea behind threads is that they *do* run
>concurrently.
>
>Where can I get the man page for repress?
>--
>Roger

Maybe they're not fully repressed, just deprecated.




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From: "Jim Ray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: sound and video card recommendations
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:41:20 -0400
Reply-To: "Jim Ray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I'm looking to build a new machine over the next month or so.  I've got a
440bx mb, with onboard SCSI and now I'm looking for the biggest
bottleneck-killer: the video card.  I really like the diamond viper 5500.
How well does this perform under linux??  any alternatives?  Also, I'd like
a really kick ass sound card.  I know that open sound does not support the
diamond chips--how about the soundblasters??  the new sb live??  I'm not
quite convinced that 3d audio is ready to go, but i do know that creative
has hired engineers to write drivers FOR linux.  any recommendations for a
sound card??  I'll probably be dual booting into NT, at least for a while. .
. 

Jim



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From: James Goldman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.lang.c,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.x,alt.os.linux,comp.lang.c++
Subject: Re: [Fwd: Source Code To Windows 98 (programmer humor) (fwd)]
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 13:03:26 -0600

Ben Pfaff wrote:
> 
> Actually main() returning void is a MS C extension, so they can use it
> in their own programs, like Windows 98, with perfect impunity.

Say what? I just wrote a console program under Linux that used "void
main(void)". I never have used the int. I'm not even sure how.

James


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From: "Moriarty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Problem using Cd in Win98 after using Linux
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 13:33:11 -0500

Hey all...

What chipset is your IDE controller based on? You didn't say which type of
Motherbaord or controller you had, or what it's capabilities were...

However, it has been my experience with Windows and controllers using the
CMD 640 that Windows hates being forced to use the serialized mode - Even
though Linux has a wonderful work around for this, if I have to drop into
Windows to play any games, it detects the second interface in use, and
disables the 32-bit access, which makes it impossible to play most modern
games... My perfect solution (which isn't so perfect) was to install a PCI
IDE card to take over for the secondary interface... Works fine now...

My thinking is that perhaps something like this may be occuring with your
system... In a round about way, so to speak...

And of course, have you tried shutting down the system and cold booting it
into Windows? Yes, I know you probably tried this - forgive me :)

Brian - a.k.a. Moriarty




<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:7ek95o$thr$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi there.
>
> OK. I have survived the installation and configuration of Linux.
Everything
> seems to be working OK, except....
>
> I have LILO dual booting my PC between Linux and Win98. Booting into Linux
is
> fine. I can mount and access my Goldstar CD drive - no problem. Now if I
> reboot into Win98, the CD drive becomes unavailable. Even if I don't mount
> the CD drive in Linux.
>
> My CD is the Master on the Secondary on-board IDE controller. Win98's
Device
> Manager "helpfully" reports that the device is "not working" with "Error
Code
> 10"??? Whatever that is.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Ian
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael George)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.lang.c,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.x,alt.os.linux,comp.lang.c++
Subject: Re: [Fwd: Source Code To Windows 98 (programmer humor) (fwd)]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 19:48:25 GMT

On Fri, 09 Apr 1999, James Goldman> wrote:
>Ben Pfaff wrote:
>> 
>> Actually main() returning void is a MS C extension, so they can use it
>> in their own programs, like Windows 98, with perfect impunity.
>
>Say what? I just wrote a console program under Linux that used "void
>main(void)". I never have used the int. I'm not even sure how.

Not sure how??  Well, rather than having the definition of main() read:
        void main( void )...

You have:
        int main( void )...

That was simple.  Then, when you are ready to exit, you can just call return
(or is it exit()?) with an integral value.  That's how the standard linux
commands give exit values.  Everything should have an exit value.

-Michael

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