Linux-Hardware Digest #26, Volume #10            Wed, 14 Apr 99 19:13:33 EDT

Contents:
  Re: All the current OSes are idiotic (was Re: Is Windows for idiots?) (westprog)
  Xircom 10/100 + modem 56 (Rui Pedro Lopes)
  Miro PCTV PRO / Radio with Linux (Roland Heggen)
  Re: Where can one get prebuilt linux systems? (David Huff)
  SCSI spindown ("{DT}")
  linux installation with mitsumi lu005s CDROM (Marten Eekhof)
  Re: x11amp crashing... appendium (Michael Bannister)
  Re: With dual-processor system, is SCSI a must or is Ultra-DMA enough? (David Ripton)
  Re: Where can one get prebuilt linux systems? (System Admin)
  XFree86 problem on a Compaq Armada 1750 (Jacques-Olivier Haenni)
  Re: Dell Optiplex use both video cards? (**Nick Brown)
  Re: All the current OSes are idiotic (was Re: Is Windows for idiots?) (Leslie 
Mikesell)
  Re: NE2000 compatible card - how to setup? (Hugo van der Merwe)
  Re: HELP! Installing a Modem (Allen)
  Guillemot Phoenix Graphics Card ("Michael Dvorak")
  Re: All the current OSes are idiotic (was Re: Is Windows for idiots?) ("Jon A. 
Maxwell (JAM)")
  AudioExcel AV-530 ("Erik")
  Re: 3com / US robotics 56K (Mark Nielsen)
  new hardware ("Marcus Dreher")
  Re: All the current OSes are idiotic (was Re: Is Windows for idiots?) ("Rob Eamon")
  Re: ! Zip AND // port (Frankie)
  Re: IWill 2395UW + Matshita CD-R CW7502 lockup
  Re: Mac SCSI Scanner on a Linux _PC_ SCSI system?

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From: westprog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: All the current OSes are idiotic (was Re: Is Windows for idiots?)
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 13:45:11 GMT

In article <7f141g$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In article <7ev7uv$m12$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> westprog  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >One of the first things we learn when we are being taught to read is that
> >Bob, BOB, and bob are the same word. This is quite a major conceptual
> >breakthrough, and it takes a lot of hard work. There are very good reasons
> >for this, based on hundreds of years of experience. For example "My car is
> >nice. I love my car." We don't even have to think about whether "My" and "my"
> >are equivalent, and that the capital "M" is there for readability.
>
> Looks like you are one major conceptual breakthrough behind if
> all you've learned is that "Bob", "BOB" and "bob" can be used
> interchangeably. "My" and "my" are *not* equivalent, the capital
> "M" does have syntactical significance: it indicates the start
> of a sentence in this case. If you wrote "I love My car. my car
> is nice" then this would be a mistake (or two).

The difference is syntactical, not semantic. E.g. "Bob. BOB! Don't bob up and
down! Bob side to side!". There are two different Bob's here, identified by
total context, not just case. I don't expect a computer language to be this
smart (it is essential to avoid ambiguity, which is acceptable in English),
but I do object to

 int bob;
 float BOB;

 bob =1.0;  //Error



J.

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From: Rui Pedro Lopes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Xircom 10/100 + modem 56
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 19:55:21 +0100

Hi. I am trying to install a Xircom CardBus Ethernet 10/100 + Modem 56
on Debian 2.1 Linux 2.0.36 but I have some difficulties.

I changed the file /etc/pcmcia/config to include the lines
card "Xircom CardBus Ethernet 10/100 + Modem 56"
  version "Xircom", "*", "CBEM56G"
  bind "xirc2ps_cs", "serial_cs"

which resulted from the output of cardctl ident

When I restart PCMCIA it gives-me:
xirc2ps_cs: Ooops: Not a creditcard
xirc2ps_cs: this card is not supported

I believe that the modem is working but
is there any way to put this Ethernet part to work?

Thanks for your time.

Rui Pedro


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From: Roland Heggen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: de.comp.os.unix.linux.hardware
Subject: Miro PCTV PRO / Radio with Linux
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 18:03:34 +0200

hi everybody,
i bought the video capture card mentioned above. everything works fine
for the video stuff. now i want to use the radio modul but i'm not
successful, although i get sound for the video applications (like xawtv
or kwintv). did anybody make this thing work ? please tell me how !
i'm using a 2.0.36 kernel and bttv 0.6.3.

any comments are welcome

-- 
     -roland-  

Roland Heggen
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Lehrstuhl fuer Technische Thermodynamik
Rhein.-Westf. Techn. Hochschule Aachen
52056 Aachen, Germany

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   probably the day they start making vacuum cleaners. --

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From: David Huff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Where can one get prebuilt linux systems?
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 11:04:49 -0500

Kurt Euler wrote:
> 
> I was just looking for similar hardware sources.  I found this:
> 
> http://www.linux.org/vendors/systems.html

In a related vein, anyone have opinions on the quality (both hardware
and support) from the "major" vendors like:

  VA Research
  Penguin Computing
  Linux Hardware Solutions

or my "hometown" company here in Dallas

  SW Technology

??

Looking for feedback on the systems themselves as well as their customer
service "attitude"...

Regards,
-- 
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 __| |_  David P. Huff     | "Linux: Because reboots
 \_   _} [EMAIL PROTECTED]   |  are for upgrades."
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From: "{DT}" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: SCSI spindown
Date: 14 Apr 1999 15:49:18 GMT

I'm using the aha152x driver to drive an  aic6026 integrated SCSI
controller, I have 1 300 meg hard drive attached, and I was wondering how I
could make the hard drive spin down after not being accessed for x minutes.
 hdparm doesn't seem to work with scsi drives.  Any help is appriciated.

Thanks in adavance,
Dave

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From: Marten Eekhof <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: linux installation with mitsumi lu005s CDROM
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 18:23:47 +0200

Hello there,
I have a question about installing linux on my 486 with a single speed
mitsumi CD-rom player. I tried to install linux with redhat 5.2 (nov
1998) version. The problem is that after the installation program
installed the cdrom player the cdrom player read almost continually when
I press a buttton for further installation (I cam unto Disk Druid). The
performace is very,very slow so I can't install it.
This is my hardware
- 486 DX-2 mainbord
- 8MB ram 4x1MB 30p, 1X4MB FP
- 2 harddisks 80/100 MB (I get a 260 MB harddisk) 
- VLB cirrus logic 5428 Videocard
- Aztech soundblaster with CDrom controller at 320hex, IRQ11
- mitsumi lu005s single speed CDrom player

I hope someone can help me out. Thanks!
Marten
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: Michael Bannister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: x11amp crashing... appendium
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 12:32:47 -0400

A few things I've forgetten to mention that might be important:

I have had the system lock up while using RealPlayer to play a southpark
episode off a cd. (this could point to something with the sound).

I've also had quake II lock the machine a few times. I've also had quake
II just crash but then I normally just go back to the command prompt.
(again could also be something with the sound).

I can't remeber ever having it lock up from playing long wave files, but
then again most of the wave files that get played (LICQ etc) are really
short.

It's never crashed from playing a CD.

Besides the above points it's been extremely stable. One final question: if
I'm running a program as root or suid root and it's poorly written, can it
right over other apps and the kernels memory or will the OS kill it and
I'll just get a seg fault?

Michael



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Ripton)
Subject: Re: With dual-processor system, is SCSI a must or is Ultra-DMA enough?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 20:26:25 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Michael Hucka  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>> On 12 Apr 1999, BL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  blev1n> one word of advice: if you want to go dual cpu, get BOTH at the
>  blev1n> SAME TIME. its said that both cpu's should be from the same
>  blev1n> stepping or production run. if you buy the 2nd later on, they may
>  blev1n> not match well enough.
>
>This is news to me.  What are the symptoms of problems when you try to use
>two processors that are not matched closely enough?

Never seen this personally.  I'd expect quick obvious lockups.

Intel does recommend matching S-specs.  Also, you should pick a SMP-
capable S-spec.  (Intel marks some runs as not suitable for SMP.)

I think that buying dual boards and single CPUs "just in case" is 
foolish.  If you need dual CPUs, buy dual CPUs.  If you don't, save
the money you would have spent on the more expensive dual board.
In a field where prices keep dropping, buying anything you don't 
need now is a bad move.

>  blev1n> if you're cost concious, then get an ncr chipset card.  I got a
>  blev1n> tekram dc390 that is ultra2 for under $200.  not a big investment,
>  blev1n> really.
>
>Unfortunately, it's not just a question of getting a SCSI card: the disks
>themselves are significantly more expensive.  The systems I was comparing
>ended up closer to $400 price difference between SCSI and non-SCSI, and when
>you're looking at buying several computers, it starts to add up.

Definitely.

See www.storagereview.com for drive benchmarks.  IDE drives are priced 
mostly by size not speed, so if you end up going IDE it's critical to 
do your homework and get the fastest drive available.  (That drive
changes every couple of months.)

IDE isn't that bad as long as you use DMA mode and don't have more 
than one drive per channel.  If a few users need exceptional disk
performance, you can take some of the money you saved and buy them
10000 RPM SCSI drives.
 
-- 
David Ripton    [EMAIL PROTECTED]
spamgard(tm): To email me, put "geek" in your Subject line.

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From: System Admin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Where can one get prebuilt linux systems?
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 07:04:31 GMT

Hey Kyle, if your looking for a prebiult system with linux,
I might be able to help you out.  My friend and I own a business
where we build custom computers for people and linux is our OS
of choice.  If you or anyone else is interrested you can email me at
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 17:58:31 +0200
From: Jacques-Olivier Haenni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: XFree86 problem on a Compaq Armada 1750

Hi,

I've tried to install XFree86 on a Compaq Armada 1750, but without
success.  This laptop has a ATI Mach64 LT Rage Pro 2X graphic card, and
a 1024x768 LCD display.  I've tried either the SVGA and the Mach64
driver.  I'm installing RedHat 5.2.

The problem is that some parts of the screen are duplicated, or a large
white line appears on the screen.  I've noticed that if I boot the PC
with an external monitor connected, the X server works fine (when
displaying on the CRT and LCD at the same time).

Any idea, solution ?

Or has someone a XF86Config working for the Armada 1750 ?

Thanks in advance.

Jacques-Olivier

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Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (EPFL) | Tel: (+41 21) 693 66 30
1015 Lausanne - Switzerland                  | Fax: (+41 21) 693 37 05

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From: **Nick Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc
Subject: Re: Dell Optiplex use both video cards?
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 16:55:28 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I wonder if there isn't perhaps only one logical AGP slot - the Rage Pro
on the mobo is certainly an AGP chip.

Dave Wortman wrote:
> Dell Optiplex GXa with ATI Rage Pro video card on motherboard and optional
> Matrox Millenium II card in AGP slot.
> - has anyone found a way to use *both* video cards at the same time.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leslie Mikesell)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: All the current OSes are idiotic (was Re: Is Windows for idiots?)
Date: 14 Apr 1999 12:04:17 -0500

In article <7f28nm$9cn$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
westprog  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Again, this doesn't make any sense when the 'application' is in fact
>> a shell script, using what you are calling applications as tools.
>> Cp, rm, ln, etc., etc. are intended to be single-purpose utilities
>> to be used like functions within a shell framework.  Why would you
>> ever want the tool to override the behaviour that it's caller
>> expected?
>
>If I am working with CORBA, for example, I will possibly be working with
>CORBA servers.

So how do you interact with humans or files?  With pipelines the interface
is the same.  Do you have to make special-case handling for every
possibility on every interface that depends on whether the thing on
the other end is a human (tty-like device), a file, a pipe, a
socket, a tape drive or your corba-aware counterpart?

>Why should the shell intervene to perform file expansions if I
>am not dealing with files in the first place? If I want file expansion as
>provided by the shell - which is appropriate in the case of cp, rm and such
>commands - I can call a standard library to parse the input.

This just falls out of the simplicity of treating everything the
same.  If you want the shell to expand file metacharacters you
let it see them unquoted.  If you don't, then you quote them
for programs like 'find' that have their own concept of expansion.

>I do not suppose that any such scheme could be made to work sucessfully for
>Unix.

You could if you want to do away with the shell as the primary command
interpreter.  What would be the point?  If you don't like the traditional
programs, don't use them.  Write a program that prompts for input
so the shell won't touch it if that's what you want.  Other users
on the machine may prefer to continue to run existing programs.

  Les Mikesell
    [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 21:19:42 +0000
From: Hugo van der Merwe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: NE2000 compatible card - how to setup?

{DT} wrote:
> 
> I would look up the default IO address in whatever manuels came with the
> card.  If the default isn't 0x300 just change the rc.modules line to
> whatever it is.
> 
> Hope this helps,
> Dave

In windows it is set to 0x300: I think the hardware is configured that
way. (Or is an NE2000 "software configurable"?)

What do you make of "Delaying eth0 initialization"?

TIA,
Hugo van der Merwe

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Allen)
Subject: Re: HELP! Installing a Modem
Date: 14 Apr 1999 19:50:42 GMT

You may need to set your bios to Non-PnP too?...

On 13 Apr 1999 18:54:44 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Comech) wrote:

>On Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:03:54 -0800, Mike Milacek wrote:
>>I am new to Linux. Trying to get modem to work. It is a USR 56k Fax Int. It
>>is a PNP modem but I have it set to non PNP on the card. Com2 Irq3.
>>
>>Can some one tell me how to install it so I can get on the net. Do not
>>understand how to do it.
>
>Hi, after you boot up, try 
>setserial -g /dev/ttyS1; if your modem has been recognized by the kernel, 
>you'd get something like /dev/ttyS1, UART: 16550A, Port: 0x02f8, IRQ: 3
>
>If something looks bad, try something like
>setserial -b /dev/ttyS1 port 0x2F8 irq3 spd_vhi skip_test autoconfig
>or, even better, read man setserial
>
>If then you can talk to your modem from minicom, you are ready to start
>configuring PPP.
>
>Cheese,
>Andrew

Allen


(email addy; user ID portion has a numeral one in place of word
onespoiler, and of course, delete the bogus secondary domain of nospam.)
PC/hardware Guru, and Linux Newbie

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From: "Michael Dvorak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Guillemot Phoenix Graphics Card
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 04:04:55 -0500

Hello:

I am a new Linux user trying to break away from Windows.  Unfortunately, I
still mainly am dependant upon Windows.  I need to purchase a new video card
and I have been looking at the Guillemot Phoenix
(http://www.guillemot.com/ ).  I was wondering though if Linux (2.0.xx and
2.2.xx) have the capable drivers to support this card.  How about another
card?  I am looking to spend about $100 for a good 2-D/3-D card (I don't
play games with my PC) used mainly for business/science applications.
Thanks for you time.

Michael Dvorak
St. Cloud State University, Minnesota USA



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From: "Jon A. Maxwell (JAM)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: All the current OSes are idiotic (was Re: Is Windows for idiots?)
Date: 14 Apr 1999 21:21:05 GMT

 westprog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: (comp.lang.java.advocacy)
 | 
 | If I am working with CORBA, for example, I will possibly be working with
 | CORBA servers. Why should the shell intervene to perform file expansions
 | if I am not dealing with files in the first place? If I want file

The shell doesn't unless you ask it to by not quoting the parameters.
How many times must it be explained to you before you understand that?

> echo '*'
*
> echo *
a.out core ...

Jam (address rot13 encoded)


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From: "Erik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: AudioExcel AV-530
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 19:49:56 +0200

I'd like my soundcard to work with Linux, but until now it has failed to do
so. Does anyone out there have this card, AudioExcel AV-530 (PCI, PnP), got
to work? It uses an FM801 chipset (by ForteMedia). It has a 'legacy block'
included that is said to be compatibale with soundblaster pro (and other
stuff like MPU-401,etc) specially for usage under DOS (normal usage is MS
Windows they assume). If you are the one person with the information ar any
info for that matter, please don't hesitate to respond...

If you have never heard of a thing called 'AudioExcel AV-530', but you do
have some suggestions, I would very much appreciate those suggestions too.

Erik Akkermans



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Nielsen)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: 3com / US robotics 56K
Date: 14 Apr 1999 16:12:38 -0400

>>The answer would be yes. 
>
>Hmmm? If there were a reliable source of affordable controller-based
>56k modems, it would be... good.
>From http://http://www.tcu-inc.com/hardware/Primary.html
>"...56k ISA Internal generic jumperable modem   * $50"
>
>So, what would be the price for Linux guys, and how much
>is shipping? Please post the details.

Well, $49 would satisfy your requirement for below $50 that you have in
your e-mail. Depends. If someone bought a system, I can probably shove it
down to $45. 

Is that good?

Mark
 

-- 
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From: "Marcus Dreher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: new hardware
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 23:29:07 +0200

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Cool



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From: "Rob Eamon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: All the current OSes are idiotic (was Re: Is Windows for idiots?)
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 12:13:24 -0600

Martin Ozolins wrote in message <7f0ms0$kpr$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
[snip]
>NTFS is case sensitive, and HPFS too as I recall.

NTFS remembers the case as provided by the user, but
MyFileName and MyFilename refer to the same file. I'm
not sure about HPFS but I suspect it behaves similarly.




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From: Frankie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ! Zip AND // port
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 10:56:44 +0200

Xaendiss wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> You just have to upgrade to kernel 2.2.5 which as a module parport, and allows
> you to
> work with the lp.o and the ppa.o modules simultaneously.

Both modules loaded at the same time and using them at the same time????

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: Re: IWill 2395UW + Matshita CD-R CW7502 lockup
Date: 14 Apr 1999 11:42:53 GMT

On Fri, 09 Apr 1999 11:19:35 +0800, Andrew Fan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  I've been experiencing lockup's during SCSI bus scanning.
>
>  I have an IWill 2935UW SCSI (Initio 91xx chipset) and a Panasonic/
>Matshita CD-R CW7502 drive.  The low level drive hangs when checking
>the CD-R drive.  More precisely, it hangs after issuing a MSG_EXTEND
>command to the CD-R in "state_3" - the low level driver never
>received an interrupt from the CD-R to release a semaphore.

Actually, the driver waits for an interrupt and never gets it.
If you look in the wait_tulip function in i91uscsi.c, you'll see a
while loop waiting for TSS_INT_PENDING, and it seems it never gets 
one in your case.

I can fix the lockup, but am not quite sure what I'll break in the
process. I'll see what I can do. This may be a problem with your CD-R,
but it's also possible that it's a bug in the driver.

>  I am using kernel 2.2.5 on an i386 arch.  The CD-R drive is the
>only device on the SCSI bus.  The low level driver files are
>ini9100u.c/h and i9100uscsi.c/h.
>
>  Am I using the correct low level drivers or is my CD-R drive
>stupid?

You are using the correct low level drivers. It may be that your CD-R
drive is stupid, but I can't say at the moment. Do you see any chance
of trying the drive with a different card? If it breaks there as well,
it's definately the drive, otherwise I'll need your help in fixing the
bug, since I haven't got access to a Matshita CD-R CW7502 drive.

>  P.S. The low level driver ran OK when I disconnected the CD-R drive.

Good to hear that. Means it may be the drive, but I still can't be
certain.

Regards, and I hope this helps a bit,

Bas Vermeulen

--
When I shop for hardware I always look for the "Designed for Windows 95" logo.
I really thank Microsoft(TM) for encouraging manufacturers to label their
products this way, so I know what to AVOID.

I stick to quality software:

Linux 2.2.4                         | IBM OS/2 Warp (TM) v4.0

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: Re: Mac SCSI Scanner on a Linux _PC_ SCSI system?
Date: 14 Apr 1999 17:13:23 GMT

I found sane 1.0 very cappable and able to support the Nikon CoolScan II
slide scanner that I get to use. Software is really nice and provided
that you have a half decent scsii card (that means not Adaptec) and your
scanner is on the list it should work.

On 14 Apr 1999 14:52:23 GMT, Markus Wandel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <7f10dp$kh1$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>westonpa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>I am having a hard time finding a low cost SCSI scanner. So far, the ones
>>which I want are either discontinued, or the only SCSI version is for 
>>a Mac. So my question is, can a Mac SCSI scanner work under a PC linux 
>>system? If so, then I will quickly by one.
>
>The reason they sell PC and Mac versions of SCSI scanners separately is not
>because of the actual scanner, but because of the junk it comes with,
>specifically software, manual, cable and (if for a PC) SCSI card.  The 
>actual scanner itself is likely the same.
>
>In Linux, you're on your own for drivers anyway, and it's assumed you're smart
>enough to install a generic SCSI card and find the right cable, so it just
>comes down to can you find a driver program for the scanner.  I wasn't too
>impressed with SANE 1.0 when I tried it, but I found a very nice standalone
>program called "epscan" for my current Epson scanner (had to patch it, mail
>me if you need that particular info.)
>
>Markus


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