Linux-Hardware Digest #875, Volume #12           Wed, 17 May 00 02:13:08 EDT

Contents:
  i286 ("0Bits")
  Re: Maxtor 40 Plus & Linux (Steve Miles)
  Re: Sonic Impact Sound (Bob Machan)
  Re: Any Suggestions For a Supported DDS3 Tape Drive (Juergen Pfann)
  Re: sound card... (Dances With Crows)
  Re: Help me install my network card? (Mark Bratcher)
  Re: HOW TO program the serial port on linux (Mark Bratcher)
  Re: Strange Lilo "LI" problems ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: DHCP installation (Doug Alcorn)
  Re: HP DeskJet support (DG)
  Re: i286 (DG)
  Re: Modem ?!?!?! (John Todd)
  Re: Can't get HP366 to work. ("Kyle Gonzales")
  Processor Clock Frequency (Ramesh Chandra U V)
  Re: Why do I need Linux? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Any Suggestions For a Supported DDS3 Tape Drive (Michael Meissner)
  Re: Strange Lilo "LI" problems (Neil Koozer)
  Re: i286 ([EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul E. Larson))

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From: "0Bits" <sinoficio@@starmedia.com>
Subject: i286
Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 12:06:14 -0400

Donde puedo conseguir linux para procesadores i286?
Where i can find linux for i286?



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From: Steve Miles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage
Subject: Re: Maxtor 40 Plus & Linux
Date: 17 May 2000 01:39:14 GMT

I have a Dell Pentium Pro 200 and just bought the Maxtor 40GB. Haven't had
any luck seeing more than ~8GB so far, primarily because Dell won't
provide an updated BIOS that recognizes HDs > 8.4GB. As I understand it,
if you can get an updated BIOS for your MB and get kernel 2.2.15, you
should be okay.

Jeremy Bassis wrote:

> Hi,
>
> We would like to install Maxtor 40 plus in our linux server.  Does
> anyone know about problems accessing the 40GB under linux using an old
> motherboard (pentium 200 MHz Asus TX97-XE).
>
> Thanks a lot,
>
> Hartwig


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Subject: Re: Sonic Impact Sound
From: Bob Machan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 01:39:39 GMT

Ed Jamison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Anyone have experience with Sonic Impact Sound Cards?  I have a Sonic
>Impact Aureal A3d Sound Card.
>
>Thanks in advance.
>Ed Jamison

I downloaded drivers from the Aureal site and they worked very well.

I have a Diamond Sonic Impact S90.

Bob



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From: Juergen Pfann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Any Suggestions For a Supported DDS3 Tape Drive
Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 03:47:14 +0200

Doug Alcorn wrote:
> 
> peter church <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > I need to get a SCSI DDS-3 format tape drive for my Redhat
> > 6.2 linux machine. Has anyone got any good recomendations
> > with regards to units with linux drivers/ support?
> >
> 
> I may be wrong, but _any_ SCSI DDS compliant tape drive should be
> supported via the standard scsi tape driver.  I _know_ the HP
> superstore 24 is supported.

So is the SONY SDT-9000. But of course, you're right, Doug.

Juergen

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: sound card...
Date: 16 May 2000 22:04:40 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Wed, 17 May 2000 00:51:09 GMT, Ken Schrock 
<<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>Hey guys...
>These are new users...
>Why does everybody tell new users to compile the kernel...
>(Which usually scares the hell out of new users...)
>When they can simply install a module or two...
>Or better yet use something like sndconfig...
>(Or Linuxconf for other things)

The particular problem being addressed here concerned a module that was
*only available in the latest kernel*.  SuSE 6.4 and RedHat 6.2 shipped
with 2.2.14; Mandrake 7.1 may have had 2.2.15, but I'm not sure about
that.  If you have to get functionality that's only available in 2.2.15,
there's no real way but to recompile the kernel.

I think that installing Linux in the first place is much more error-prone
and scary than compiling a kernel--installation requires mucking with the
partition table, potentially hosing all data on the drive!  Compile a new
(stable series) kernel, and the worst that happens is that the new kernel
doesn't boot.  You can still get into the system using the olde kernel or
a rescue disk.

sndconfig and linuxconf are distro-specific tools.  A lot of people don't
mention which distro they use--how do we know if they *have* sndconfig or
linuxconf?  Me, I try to give answers that will work on all distros if at
all possible.  Often these are more complex than using the canned tools,
but them's the breaks.

>Doesn't anybody realize this drives new users away?
>Contributes to the "Linux is hard to use" myth...
>Makes new or average users afraid of Linux...
>Do you guys ever take this into account?

...nobody's stopping you from jumping in and answering questions your own
way, are they?  New users must realize that Linux is different from WinXX
and there will be some fumbling and flailing and general confusion before
they manage to get things working well.  Every boxed distro I've seen has
a printed manual with a decent guide to compiling a kernel.  Don't forget
the HOWTOs available on http://linuxdoc.org/HOWTO either!  In any new OS,
answers will rarely be handed to you on a platter; you must learn to find
TFM and R it.  "Read the instructions first" is always a good idea--maybe  
2% of the population ever does it.

If you are truly concerned about the plight of new users, I hear they're
looking for a few good doc-writers at http://linuxnewbie.org among other
places.

<NITPICK> most of the questions asked in .hardware and .misc are questions
that would be handled by an admin if the Linux box were a mainframe.  So
Linux is much harder to administer than to use, I'd say.  Once it's set
up, it seems to just perk along with minimal effort.</NITPICK>

-- 
Matt G / Dances With Crows              \###| You have me mixed up with more
There is no Darkness in Eternity         \##| creative ways of being stupid?
But only Light too dim for us to see      \#| Beer is a vegetable.  WinNT
(Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| is the study of cool. --MegaHAL

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From: Mark Bratcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help me install my network card?
Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 22:26:36 -0400

Amanda Hammond wrote:
> 
> <snip>
> >This is deep water for a newbie.
> I'll doggy-paddle then. :)
> 

I like your sense of humor. :-)

Mark

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From: Mark Bratcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HOW TO program the serial port on linux
Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 22:30:17 -0400

raqueld wrote:
> 
> I am working in Linux for first time and I need routines
> about serial port, I need comunication between two PC's, but
> I don't undertand How to begin the comunication, in other
> words, I need to stablish the protocolo for comunication,
> acces to buffer and send and receive information, I preten
> to creat files whit de infoirmation contains in the buffer.
> 
> I need routines about manage of serial port, How to create
> this routines and How to work.
> 

You could try reading the Serial-Programming-HOWTO document to
get you started.

-- 
Mark Bratcher
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
=========================================================
Escape from Microsoft's proprietary tentacles: use Linux!

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: Re: Strange Lilo "LI" problems
Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 02:31:22 GMT

In article <4lbU4.70871$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Usually when this happens it's because you installed LILO about the
1024 cylinder. Try going to www.linuxdoc.org or somewhere like that,
because they have a lot of info on Linux

> Any assistance on the following problem would be very much
appreciated!
>
> I have two 486's...a Compaq and a Dell.
>
> The Dell has been running Mandrake 5.3 for about a year on a 1080M
> disk with a chs of 2112,16,63.  I remember having trouble getting
lilo 20
> installed on this HD but somehow I did.  Here's the lilo.conf:
>
> boot=/dev/hda
> serial=0,9600n8
> map=/boot/map
> install=/boot/boot.b
> prompt
> timeout=50
> image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.0.36-3
>         label=l
>         root=/dev/hda1
>         read-only
>
> And here's the partition table:
>
> Disk /dev/hda: 16 heads, 63 sectors, 2112 cylinders
> Units = cylinders of 1008 * 512 bytes
>
>    Device Boot    Start      End   Blocks   Id  System
> /dev/hda1   *         1     1995  1005448+  83  Linux native
> /dev/hda2          1996     2097    51408   82  Linux swap
>
> I'm upgrading the Dell with the latest Mandrake.  I took the 1080M HD
from
> the Dell and put it in the Compaq and it booted up just fine.  I took
the
> 1.2G HD with chs of 621,64,63 from the Compaq and put it in the Dell
and
> installed Mandrake.
>
> I can't seem to get lilo installed on the 1.2G HD in the Dell!  Here's
> the lilo.conf (created during installation):
>
> boot=/dev/hda
> serial=0,9600n8
> map=/boot/map
> install=/boot/boot.b
> vga=normal
> default=linux
> keytable=/boot/us.klt
> lba32
> prompt
> timeout=50
> message=/boot/message
> image=/boot/vmlinuz-secure
>         label=linux
>         root=/dev/hda1
>         read-only
> image=/boot/vmlinuz
>         label=linux-up
>         root=/dev/hda1
>         read-only
> image=/boot/vmlinuz
>         label=failsafe
>         root=/dev/hda1
>         append=" failsafe"
>         read-only
>
> and here's the partition table:
>
> Disk /dev/hda: 64 heads, 63 sectors, 621 cylinders
> Units = cylinders of 4032 * 512 bytes
>
>    Device Boot    Start       End    Blocks   Id  System
> /dev/hda1             1       559   1126912+  83  Linux
> /dev/hda2           560       621    124992    5  Extended
> /dev/hda5           560       621    124960+  82  Linux swap
>
> The custom boot floppy I made during the install boots just fine.
I've
> tried with and without lba32 and linear and tried fdisk/mbr once to
> clean it up before I re-ran lilo.  The bios is set to chs of
621,64,63.
>
> Can anyone shed some light on what I might be doing wrong?
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Please remove SPAMSUCKS from my email before sending me email.
>
> -Jeff
>


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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: DHCP installation
From: Doug Alcorn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 03:20:40 GMT

Eric Decker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> May 14 21:06:02 h0010b5003ce4 kernel: eth0: Digital DC21041 Tulip rev 33
> 
> at 0x1080, 00:00:94:92:C3:82, IRQ 0.

Looks like the actual driver for the card is loading OK.

> May 14 21:06:00 h0010b5003ce4 ifup: Determining IP information for
> eth0...
> May 14 21:06:00 h0010b5003ce4 dhcpcd[274]: dhcpStart: ioctl
> SIOCSIFFLAGS: Resource temporarily unavailable

What version of kernel and dhcpcd?  They have to match up.  Not the
actual numbers, but specific versions are written for each other.
-- 
 (__)  Doug Alcorn (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.lathi.net)
 oo /  Win a 66MB capacity tape drive. Help me win too!
 |_/   http://www.ecrix.com/extreme/getReferrals.cfm?ref=7612

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From: DG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HP DeskJet support
Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 20:42:45 -0700

josh wrote:
> 
> Espen Ekeroth wrote:
> >
> > Just a simple question:
> >
> > Is the HP DeskJet 710 C or 840 C supported ?
> >
> > In the RedHat documentation it looks like all HP DeskJet/DeskJet Plus is
> > supportet, but just want to be sure before buing one.
> >
> >
> > Espen
> >
> > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> No 710 is NOT supported
> dont know about 840

I don't think there are any consumer-brand HP printers that are
"supported" under Linux.  However, any PCL printer (the 840) will work
reasonably well, and all postscript printers.  Even the PPA printers
(710 for example) can be made to work decently.

-- 
DG (remove the Zs)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: DG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: i286
Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 20:44:56 -0700

0Bits wrote:
> 
> Donde puedo conseguir linux para procesadores i286?
> Where i can find linux for i286?

AFAIK, you can't.  You need a 386 or later.
-- 
DG (remove the Zs)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: John Todd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux.corel,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Modem ?!?!?!
Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 19:01:30 -0700

        Look at the ttySx lines in your dmesg file, and see if ttyS2 reports as
a 16550A UART; this means high speed, which is probably modem. Since the
default IRQ for ttyS2 is 4, it is in conflict with ttyS0, and you must change
it with setserial (man setserial).
setserial ttyS2 irq 5
would do it for IRQ5, put the line in /etc/rc.d/rc.local to have it run when
you start up.
        Hope I got this right!

On Tue, 16 May 2000, Madness wrote:
>Hi!!
>Corel Linux doesn't recognize my Internal Rockwell V. 90 modem.
>In Windows 98 it's on Com3.
>How to make it work????
>Thanks in advance!!!
>
>Alessio
--
_____________________
The lap of Linuxury
|<de in RH6


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From: "Kyle Gonzales" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can't get HP366 to work.
Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 23:55:29 -0500

Have you downloaded the UDMA66 patch yet?  If so, do you just need help
on how to patch the kernel source?

If the patch is in /usr/src, cd to /usr/src/linux and type this:

patch -p1 < ../nameofthepatch

And you are officially patched!

Recompile the kernel, and you have UDMA66 support.

n article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Franses
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have read a howto on the HP366 ATA66 controller, and have gotten it to
> work on 33MB/s. But I can't seem to  get the kernel patched to enable
> 66mb/s support. Any tips would be very welcome.
> 
> ________________________________
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ================================



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From: Ramesh Chandra U V <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Processor Clock Frequency
Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 23:05:47 -0500


Is there any way by which I can obtain the clock frequency of the
processor in Linux? Specifically, I need to know for the Pentium.

-- Ramesh.



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Why do I need Linux?
Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 04:10:50 GMT

In article <M11U4.86394$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Furthermore, almost all the computer systems you likely encounter are,
> under the covers, becoming "more like UNIX" over time.

It appears that since Unix is perceived by non-technical people as
being a stable system, so most vendors use this as a marketing point
and want to put as many Unix features into their systems as possible
(as if adding fork() takes out all of the bugs in your OS).

In many systems this has dramatically hindered technical progress of
the OS. For example, until about 10 years ago or so, VMS could handle
dates through the year 9999. Since the introduction of Unix-like
concepts (particularly TCP/IP and DECwindows, which were ported from
Unix and written in C), VMS is now only certified through 2038 (or
2106, actually).

There has also been Unixification in other areas. Many VMS customers
were shocked last year when there were two new system services which
acctually accepted NUL-terminated strings as arguments. They were
promptly removed after Compaq was notified that customer reaction was
so intense against the creeping Unixism's. The POSIX package also
existed but was removed. But who knows what else has been Unixified?

Windows (which is already a primordial soup of other OS'es influence)
and MacOS (which is also about to be Unixified) will likely also have
disastrous results as the become more and more indistiguishable from
Unix.

Not only is there a personal argument against all OS'es being the same
(such that there is nothing more to learn, and no more creative choices
to be made), but there is a very serious security argument against
going to one OS. Despite having different sources, many different Unix
systems are plagued by the same bugs because they have similar design
decisions. For example, in 1994 there was a bug which affected both AIX
and Linux systems, whereby logging in as the user "-froot" would give
root access to any user. Although AIX and Linux had no code in common,
they had similar implementations due to similar requirements, and both
feel victim to the same bug. The more widespread Unix is, the more
vulernable world security is.


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Subject: Re: Any Suggestions For a Supported DDS3 Tape Drive
From: Michael Meissner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 17 May 2000 00:56:01 -0400

peter church <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I need to get a SCSI DDS-3 format tape drive for my Redhat
> 6.2 linux machine. Has anyone got any good recomendations
> with regards to units with linux drivers/ support?

Just about any of them should work as long as you compile in scsi tape support
to the kernel.

I've had a HP Surestore DAT24 for the past year.  When it works it is great,
but I have to send it back twice (the fine print evidently says it stops
working after a few months if it is not actively terminated on an Ultra
controller, and the guy who built my system didn't see that warning).  We'll
see if I have to send it back in a few months after I redid my scsi chain.

-- 
Michael Meissner, Cygnus Solutions, a Red Hat company.
PMB 198, 174 Littleton Road #3, Westford, Massachusetts 01886, USA
Work:     [EMAIL PROTECTED]           phone: +1 978-486-9304
Non-work: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   fax:   +1 978-692-4482

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From: Neil Koozer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: Re: Strange Lilo "LI" problems
Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 21:03:11 -0700


"LI" means it's loading things from the wrong physical address on the
hard drive.  The bios (at boot time) is doing something different with
sector adresses than what Linux does when it's running.  This is
referred to as a geometry mismatch.  The 'linear' option is designed to
fix this problem, but since you tried that, it must be due to a strange
logic design in the bios.

How did you set the CHS geometry in the bios?  Did you set the numbers
themselves or select some mode that resulted in those numbers?  Did you
partition after setting the numbers?

If the drive itself has LBA capability you can use the nuni boot loader,
which does not use the bios.  It does not use the concept of cylinders
or geometry, so the chances are that it would work here.  It can be
found at ftp://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/boot/loaders

Neil.

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From: whistler<blahblah>@twcny.rr.com (Paul E. Larson)
Subject: Re: i286
Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 05:52:44 GMT

In article <lnmU4.207$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "0Bits" <sinoficio@@starmedia.com> 
wrote:
>Donde puedo conseguir linux para procesadores i286?
>Where i can find linux for i286?
>
>
http://www.cs.vu.nl/~ast/minix.html - Minix is supposed to work or
http://howto.tucows.com/man/man1/elks.1.html

Paul

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