Linux-Hardware Digest #962, Volume #12 Wed, 31 May 00 16:13:07 EDT
Contents:
Re: Problems installing RH 6.2: "boot partition too large" (Topher Cawlfield)
Trying to hook up an HP ScanJet 6200C to a Linux PC... ("John Buell")
ATT: Pls help having problems with RH 6.2 (Newbie Question) ("eliz")
Re: Newbie having problems ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: 2 GB File size limit? (Johan Kullstam)
Re: Newbie having problems (Edward Lee)
Re: Recommendations on a backup solution (Dan Lapine)
Re: Tape devices ("Mark Twenhafel")
Re: need diagnostic advice (callcal)
NEC Versa V/50 and X (pastorJohn)
Re: Linux Newbie - Can't get Linux v7.0 to recognize DVD-CDROM ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: ZIP Drive - strange problems (solved) (Carlos Henriques dos Santos)
Re: ASUS cubx 440bx - P3/600 - RH 6.2 - PCI/Ethernet not working. ("Warren Postma")
Re: VIA82CXXX (onboard sound for Athlon boards) (Rod Smith)
Re: mounting & using WinNT partition (Jinho Choi)
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From: Topher Cawlfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Problems installing RH 6.2: "boot partition too large"
Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 12:31:14 -0500
Success!!! I finally got it to work last night!
First, I tried yet again with disk druid (the usual installation procedure)
with the same error message, "/boot partition too big". Then I worked with
fdisk a little more, and eventually figured out how to create the /boot, /,
and swap partitions. To create the swap partition, I made a 256 MB logical
partition, and then changed the ID to 83. It seems obvious to me now, but
for some reason the correct solution escaped me the first time I tried
using fdisk.
After partitioning the drive with fdisk, the RH installer asked me for the
mount points, and did *not* complain about it! The rest of the
installation went smoothly. I made the boot disk and rebooted the
computer.
When first booting up, my computer froze with the infamous "LI" prompt. I
was able to boot up using the boot disk, and downloaded the latest version
of lilo (0.21.4.3, dated May 8 '00, I think). This compiled and installed
easily. I had the line "linear" in my lilo.conf which I removed on an
educated guess. Then I added the line "lba32" to lilo.conf, re-ran
/sbin/lilo, and now everything works. My /boot partition is entirely
beyond cylinder 1024, but that's not a problem anymore!
One odd thing is that when installing RedHat Linux on my older computer, a
Cyrix 6x86 with one 8.5 GB HD and a second 2.5 GB drive, when I first
booted up I also got the "LI" prompt and the computer froze. The solution
in that case was to *add* the line "linear" to lilo.conf. With my new
computer, apparently it automatically put "linear" in, when it should not
have been there. Okay, I'm not positive that this line should not have
been there, but it's a safe guess. Works great without it. So far the RH
installer is 0 for 2 in my records. This is a nasty problem, especially
when the original install disk for 6.2 (and 6.1?) would crash before
creating the boot disk, leaving the owner with an unusable system.
I'm deliriously happy now that Linux is working (and FAST!) on my new
computer, but that obviously doesn't stop me from ranting a bit. ;-)
Many thanks for all the suggestions.
Topher Cawlfield
Bruce Bennett wrote:
>
<snip>
>
> I had the same problem when I installed 6.2 - although my hard drive is
> not as large as yours. Did you try to reduce the size of the partition
> like it says? That's how I did it. I reduced the size of the partition
> 1MB at a time till the message went away. Ended up with 5 MB I think.
> The default workstation install went smooth after that.
I did try 5 MB at one point, I think. Or maybe I tried 6 or 7. I was
never successful, but maybe I didn't go low enough. I might try going
through the installation program once more, not actually repartitioning
anything but seeing if I can get the message to disappear using disk
druid. Anyway, it's nice having it at 15 MB, which is enough for two or
three kernels.
> Bruce
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From: "John Buell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux.turbolinux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,alt.comp.periphs.scanner
Subject: Trying to hook up an HP ScanJet 6200C to a Linux PC...
Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 12:32:06 -0500
I've got the scanner connected, but I'm not sure it's even being detected by
my SCSI card (a Tekram DC-390 series). It's an HP ScanJet with both USB and
SCSI II interfaces in the back. I've currently got a SCSI II to SCSI III
cable connecting the scanner to the Linux PC, with nothing at all plugged
into the USB port. I've also downloaded and have been trying to compile Sane
1.02, and I'm thinking I might need to download the HP ScanJet backend from
kirchgessner.net on its own and compile that as well. I'd really REALLY like
to get this to work, as otherwise I've wasted $55 on a really nice SCSI
cable, and the alternative is replacing some cards in the Linux PC so I have
USB connectivity. Any suggestions?
My apologies in advance if you've heard this all before; even pointers to
some helpful FAQs would be useful at this point. Thanks in advance.
Sincerely,
John Buell
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From: "eliz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.periphs.pcmcia,comp.sys.laptops
Subject: ATT: Pls help having problems with RH 6.2 (Newbie Question)
Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 18:38:35 +0100
Hi
I'm having problems with RH 6.2. When I the computer boots up linux, linux
goes thought all it checks like: portmapper started. When linux comes to
the pcmcia it won't go any further. It just stops and waits. When I boot
linux with the pcmcia card modem in the computer Redhat boots fine. My
computer is a Toshiba satellite 4030 cds. Can anyone pls help
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Newbie having problems
Date: 31 May 2000 17:42:51 GMT
Edward Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Not all winmodems are created equal. So far, I've been quite happy with my PCtel
: software modem, with a binary driver. If more Linux users return their null
This is what I carefully said.
: modem in exchange for a PCtel or Lucent modem. Perhaps the null modem makers
But do you know that your modem works for sure? I have a lucent
winmodem, and the lucent driver doesn't seem to do a lot for it.,
though it loads fine. Dialling also works, I think. But I haven't got
to make it go past the dial tone on the internal exchange so far.
: will get the message.
: "Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
:> Stewart Harwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:> : I'm new to Linux and need some help to get a winmodem running under RedHat
:> : 6.0. I know popular opinion has it that they won't work under Linux but the
:>
:> It's not an opinion, but a fact that is relevant to about 90% of the
:> cases.
:>
:> : latest issue of a coputer magazine here in the UK says they can. They
:> : suggest www.linmodems.org for drivers but I couldn't find them there.
:>
:> : Anyone help please?
:>
:> Nope. You already got all the advice going. Is there any particular
:> reason you choose to ignore it or misunderstand it?
:>
:> Look at http://www.o2.net/~gromitkc/winmodem.html in order to
:> understand the issue better.
Peter
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From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 2 GB File size limit?
Date: 31 May 2000 13:15:03 -0400
Peter Colman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Johan Kullstam wrote:
>
> > John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >
> > > > is there a 2 GB file size limit on Linux? A friend of mine is doing some
> > > > Video editing on Windows and I was just curious whether he would be having
> > > > the same problem under Linux.
> > >
> > > There is a 2GB file size limit with linux running on Intel (or
> > > Intel-compatible) hardware. But IIRC, the limitation is in the
> > > ext2 filesystem on this hardware and does not apply to linux
> > > running on other platforms, eg sparc, ppc, etc.
> >
> > the limitation is in C (for having too few integer types and a rigid
> > compiled-in nature), libc and kernel interface. ext2 is 64 bit no
> > matter what platform you have. you can move an ext2 disk from a 32
> > bit pentium to a 64 bit ultrasparc without needing to reformat.
> >
>
> huh?????
> ext2 is written in C
> ext2 is 32 bit because the inode's have only 32 bits for storage of i_size. Hence
> ext2 can NEVER be 64 bit and still retain compatability.
my bad. i seem to have spoken too soon. i was recalling linux kernel
list stuff. checking the sources reveals that you are correct.
> Perhaps ext3?
> C has type long long. This is 64 bits even on 32 bit processor.
not necessarily. it could be more.
this brings up one of my pet peeves with C. why couldn't there be a
set of standard fixed width types *in addtion to* the regular set of
char (when you consider its numerical properties), short, int, long?
what if i really want a 128 bit integer?
> C has type int - 32 bits on 32 bit hardware, 64 bits on 64 bit
> hardware, etc.
untrue. int is often 32 bits even on many 64 systems. e.g., with gcc
and alpha processor, int is 32 bits and long is 64 bits. if you have
8 bit char
16 bit short int
64 bit int
64 bit long
128 bit long long
you are hard pressed to have any 32 bit quantity. there aren't enough
standard integer types to go around. (you could have a 32 bit short,
but then what do you do when you want a 16 quantity?)
whatever bitwidth "int" happens to be, __uint32 is likely to be
defined to be an unsigned integer of 32 bits on any platform.
btw it is often claimed that you can have larger files on 64 bit
machines like alpha and ultrasparc. how is this possible if the
kernel sources define i_size to be a __uint32 on disk?
> The current limitation is in th VFS (virtual file system) AND
> ext2. In the 2.3 and 2.4 kernels the VFS has been extended to 64
> bits on ALL platforms. You will need to use one of the 64 bit
> filesystems to take advantage.
--
johan kullstam l72t00052
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From: Edward Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Newbie having problems
Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 10:59:15 -0700
I think it is working. We've been using it on my wife's computer (Linux 2.2.15),
which is a dial-up gateway for mine. We both surf the net for hours everyday. As far
as I can tell, a PCtel on K6-2 450 is slightly faster than a TI DSP hardware modem on
a 66 MHz 486.
"Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
> Edward Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : Not all winmodems are created equal. So far, I've been quite happy with my PCtel
> : software modem, with a binary driver. If more Linux users return their null
>
> This is what I carefully said.
>
> : modem in exchange for a PCtel or Lucent modem. Perhaps the null modem makers
>
> But do you know that your modem works for sure? I have a lucent
> winmodem, and the lucent driver doesn't seem to do a lot for it.,
> though it loads fine. Dialling also works, I think. But I haven't got
> to make it go past the dial tone on the internal exchange so far.
>
> : will get the message.
>
> : "Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
>
> :> Stewart Harwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> :> : I'm new to Linux and need some help to get a winmodem running under RedHat
> :> : 6.0. I know popular opinion has it that they won't work under Linux but the
> :>
> :> It's not an opinion, but a fact that is relevant to about 90% of the
> :> cases.
> :>
> :> : latest issue of a coputer magazine here in the UK says they can. They
> :> : suggest www.linmodems.org for drivers but I couldn't find them there.
> :>
> :> : Anyone help please?
> :>
> :> Nope. You already got all the advice going. Is there any particular
> :> reason you choose to ignore it or misunderstand it?
> :>
> :> Look at http://www.o2.net/~gromitkc/winmodem.html in order to
> :> understand the issue better.
>
> Peter
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From: Dan Lapine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Recommendations on a backup solution
Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 13:02:19 -0500
trippyd wrote:
>
> I am looking for recommendations on a backup solution for a
> redhat 6.1 webserver. Mainly, I am thinking of a tape drive, I
> need something capable of backing up 4+ gigs daily with as
> little maintenance as I can get away with, and as simple an
> installation as possible.
> Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated
>
> D
>
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Get a hot-swappable SCSI removable rack. Cheapest way to go and
excellent proformance.
Get 2 decent sized SCSI drives, and run a cronjob to do your backup.
--
Daniel LaPine
Student at National Center for Supercomputing Applications (NCSA)
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Mark Twenhafel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Tape devices
Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 13:27:34 +0100
"David C." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> >
> > I have searched these archives looking for "brand" name tape devices
> > for Linux.
> > And I didn't see any names mentioned.
> > My question is, will a Travan TR5 EIDE device work under Linux 6.0?
> > All I need it for is to backup website directories. Any and all help
> > is greatly appreciated.
>
> If it is SCSI or ATAPI, yes.
>
The Hardware HOWTO says support is in the kernel. Does that mean that init
probes for the device and after the kernel boots that the device (I'm
thinking of an HP-Colorado Travan-4 4GB model) will be accessible from the
/dev filesystem? Then to backup I just use the command tar or cpio with
/dev/<some device> as the target?
Can you suggest web-based documentation on this? I don't have a Linux
system installed just now. :-(
Thanks.
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Subject: Re: need diagnostic advice
Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 18:30:14 GMT
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From: j*[EMAIL PROTECTED] (pastorJohn)
Subject: NEC Versa V/50 and X
Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 18:31:52 GMT
I am running a Versa V/50 by NEC. I want to run Slackware 4.0's
ZipSlack distrib. So far, it works fine, but I want to install X. I
can get to a graphical screen, but it is messed up, not a proper
display. I think I have the wrong chipset or refresh rates, but my
documentation has none of them. All versa V/50 links I can find on
the WWW are extinct, and the ones to files related to installing X are
also extinct. I just can't find the documentation I need.
So..
Does anyone have the Versa V/50's video chipset and refresh rates? I
tried comp.os.linux.portable, but noone there had anything.
Thanks in advance
John Kiehn
pastorJohn
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Linux Newbie - Can't get Linux v7.0 to recognize DVD-CDROM
Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 18:28:14 GMT
Hi, Im a newbie also but I have had alot of luck
with Mandrake. First thing , I found it much
easier to boot straight from the cd. Have you
tried that yet? If not, go into to setup and
change the boot sequence to CD-Rom,C,A or
something like that so that at boot it goes
straight to the CD. That should work for you as
far as the DVD is concerned. Than restart
computer and the Mandrake Install screen should
come up.
If this works for you and you do get everything
installed, maybe the "Lothar" program could detect
and configure your Zip-drive. If not, look around
on different Linux websites to see if it is
supported hardware. Keep in mind , Im also very
green and just tryin' ta help. 8) G.L.!
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: Carlos Henriques dos Santos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ZIP Drive - strange problems (solved)
Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 20:49:37 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The problem ist the SuSE-Kernel (SuSE delivers a modified
Kernel-Version). Their driver ide-floppy.c has a bug.
> > Hello,
> >
> > I have 15 PCs with SuSE 6.3 Kernel 2.2.13, all with an internal IDE
> > ZIP drive. The PCs are used by students.
> > I included the "IDE/Atapi FLOPPY support" to the kernel.
> > In the fstab i included this rows:
> > /dev/hdb4 /mnt/dos_zip vfat noauto,user 0 0
> > /dev/hdb1 /mnt/dos_zip_1 vfat noauto,user 0 0
> >
> > The last row is for ZIPs that have their partition on #1 (normally the
> > partition is on #4).
> >
> > When i sometimes mount a ZIP-Media. ls shows files that definitely dont
> > exist on the medium and some files that are on the medium are not
> > shown. The non existent files are from ZIPs of other people. Sometimes
> > also mount /mnt/dos_zip needs some minutes.
> this was wrong not the mount needs some minutes, but the first ls.
>
> > When i reboot such a System
> > everything works fine.
> >
> > On my personal PC i am using IDE ZIPs since 2 years and never had a
> > problem.
> >
> > Has someone noticed similar problems?
> > What could cause this problem?
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> >
> > Carlos dos Santos
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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From: "Warren Postma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ASUS cubx 440bx - P3/600 - RH 6.2 - PCI/Ethernet not working.
Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 15:08:47 -0400
> Get the ISA SoundBlaster16-PNP out of there. Its presence can cause
> problems under some BIOS (or configs) and not others. If you are not
> using it, remove it. If you want to use it, remove it anyway just to
> see if it is a source of the problem (maybe not, but possible).
Tried that. No change.
>
> More likely the 2 ethernet cards are interferring with each other in
> the context of new logic in the new BIOS, or in the new settings of
> the BIOS. Some settings may fix this (I'd have to be there and see
> to tell you).
I am trying to get any ONE card working, and only tried the 3com to see
if the other card was not supported well. If I had others I'd try them too,
but
I can't get a darn thing working on this motherboard, in Linux. Not a single
PCI card I've tried is supported, or works, or anything. Argh!
So I'm NOT trying to set up 2 ethernet cards, just ONE but it doesn't work.
Thanks for the suggestions though.
> Try each ethernet card one at a time. The Tulip card is very well
> supported. I run them on every Intel machine I have (8 machines).
> I have stuffed 4 of them in one machine and they all just worked.
This is good to know. And this same Tulip card I had in my previous machine
and it worked fine, and it is working right now on my new machine inWindows
2000
just not in Linux. So the only thing different is that it's RedHat 6.2
instead of 6.1, and
it's a new motherboard.
> I suspect mixing ethernet card types can be a source of many problems
> due to differences in how they negotiate resources on the PCI bus.
Probably. However I have never tried two at once.
> You MAY need to compile the drivers directly into the kernel. I
> ALWAYS recompile my kernel to include exactly what my setup has and
> I haven't run into driver problems (except with PNP stuff, but I
> finally have gotten rid of all Persistently-New-Problems cards).
Good advice.
> If you want a sound card that works, get the Ensoniq ES1371 PCI.
> CompUSA carries them for around $30. You have to compile in the
> driver, but the Linux native driver in 2.2 works (no idea about
> 2.0 or 2.4).
Hmm. Problem with all these PCI cards is few emulate the old ISA
soundblaster
well enough to also run DOS games. :-)
> BTW, I'm planning to get a CUBX myself. But I'll be running my own
> modified form of Slackware 7 on it.
Well, if you ever do buy a CUBX please do email me and tell me you have a
TULIP card working on a CUBX board. That would be good news indeed.
Warren
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Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: VIA82CXXX (onboard sound for Athlon boards)
Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 19:29:23 GMT
[Posted and mailed]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Derek B. Noonburg) writes:
>
> I have an AOpen AK72 motherboard (Via KX133) chipset. The ALSA driver
> (version 0.5.7) works pretty well, but I'm getting some weird
> glitches. It sounds like the driver is occasionally throwing away a
> few thousand samples, and skipping immediately to the following data.
>
> Unfortunately, I can't figure out how to reproduce this. I've tried
> stressing the CPU, the disk, and my ethernet connection, and none of
> these reliably cause the problem. I listen to music pretty much
> constantly whenever I'm at my computer, and all I can say is I'm
> hearing glitches often enough to be annoying.
>
> Has anyone else encountered this problem? Any suggestions?
I've not encountered this on either of my systems that use this driver,
but I don't use the sound system nearly as heavily as you apparently do.
There is, however, an ALSA mailing list. I believe there's mention of it
on the ALSA web site (http://www.alsa-project.org). You might want to
join it and post about the problem, or see if there's a searchable
archive to the mailing list on the web site.
--
Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.rodsbooks.com
Author of books on Linux networking & multi-OS configuration
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From: Jinho Choi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.caldera,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: mounting & using WinNT partition
Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 19:37:17 GMT
"Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
>
> In comp.os.linux.help Le Trieu Duong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : I have the same question but with Win98 partitions. Only when I log in
> :> /dev/hda1 /mnt/winnt ntfs defaults,user,noauto 0 0
> ^^^^^^^^ !!!!! your problem.
I tried "ro" instead of "defaults", but still doesn't work... What
other options??
> :> I tried changing permissions, but as soon as I mount/unmount the winnt
> :> partition, it goes back to wrx------ ......
> :> What can I do to fix this?
>
> Nothing - it's what you're asking it to do and its the perms that a fat
> system has available. There's nothing wrong, hence nothing to fix. If
> you don't like that, don't do that. Mounting it yourself instead of
> mounting it as root would "fix" your access difficulty.
I don't understand what you are trying to say... Could you explain more
precisely instead of being "sarcastic".. I'm a newbie here, so most of
the time, I don't know what the hell I'm doing..
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