Linux-Hardware Digest #124, Volume #13 Tue, 27 Jun 00 07:13:04 EDT
Contents:
Re: Thoughts on this configuration? (blowfish)
Re: Slim cases for rack-mounted solution ("Richard Clafton")
Panasonic Cr5X CD ("Mike Nevin")
Postscript printing using serial port (Koenraad Van Nieuwenhove)
Re: soundblaster pci 128 in linux? (Kheng-Teong Goh)
parallel port programming (Ruediger Knoerig)
apollo Fax/modem PC Card (Iain Rae)
Problems with Hot Rod 66, Fireball lct10 (Kenneth Rørvik)
large disks (> 32 GB) (Espen Sand)
ATI Rage 128 XPERT 2000 - distortion problem ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Compaq Deskpro: strange problem (John Mamer)
Re: Scanner HP Scanjet 5100c (Marcel Pol)
Re: Slim cases for rack-mounted solution (Andrew McDonald)
Re: HP, Linux, and tape drives :-( (Yidao Cai)
Re: USB driver for Sony Vaio laptop? (Juergen Sauer)
Re: GeForce driver installation for a linux newbie. (Juergen Sauer)
Re: Dual or single processor (Juergen Sauer)
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From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: Thoughts on this configuration?
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 23:43:11 -0700
"David C." wrote:
>
> Others hae already spoken, so I'll try not to repeat their opinions....
>
> no-one@all (no one) writes:
> >
> > Tyan SMP P3 Tiger 133 S1834 motherboard 160
>
> I like Tyan motherboards. They're not usually the top performers, but
> they are solid and stable. Which, IMO, is more important. I'm not
> familiar with this specific board, however.
>
> You may also want to consider a board with built-in Ethernet and SCSI.
> Compare the difference in price with the $205 you're planning on
> spending for the SCSI card and network card. A board with dual-channel
> Ultra2 SCSI may be less expensive than your existing board plus the SCSI
> board.
>
I'd stay away from any extra built-ins with any mobo. It's
false economic in the long run. You can upgrade, or replace
the part if/when it breaks. You'll have to ditch the whole
mobo for just a minor problem, like with the NIC, which is
very inexpensive to replace, if the NIC is not built-in.
Don't be penny wise but dollar foolish.
And go for SCSI LVD HDDs for the working part, and get a
hugh IDE for storing non-frequent access stuff, and mp3, if
you want to save a few bucks.
Also, get a DVD drive instead of a CDROM, a SCSI-CD burner
is a must have these days.
Alex Lam.
> > ATX 6 drive bay case with 250W power supply 30
>
> For what you're doing (dual processors, two hard drives, lots of RAM),
> I'd go for a full-tower case (9-10 drive bays), and at least 300W for
> the power supply.
>
> Also, add some extra fans - most cases only have the one fan in the
> power supply. An extra one at the back of the case (below the power
> supply) and at the front (near the bottom) will greatly improve
> airflow. With a configuration you're describing, the system will
> generate plenty of heat - you'll want to draw that heat away as quickly
> as possible. (When installing the extra fans, be sure to pay attention
> to how the air is flowing - if you install a fan facing the wrong way,
> it will impede airflow and cause overheating.)
>
> > PS2 keyboard with tactile response 30
> > PS2 3 button mouse 10
>
> OK. Keyboards and mice are personal things. If you know what you want,
> go for it. If you're not sure, go to a store with them on display and
> try them out. Some feel better than others.
>
> > 2 each 256MB 72 bit PC/100 SDRAM 600
>
> 512M RAM is probably overkill, but I don't know what you want to do with
> the box. If you're running a high-RAM application (like a database
> server, or compiling lare amounts of code, or photo-editing, etc.),
> you'll need it. If you just plan on web surfing and playing MP3 files,
> this is much more than you need.
>
> > 2 each 600mhz P3 processors (slot 1 type SECC2) 440
>
> Very nice. Be sure to keep them cool. Apply thermal grease between the
> CPU and the heat-sink. Unless you absolutely know that your system's
> airflow is sufficient to cool the chips, be sure to use a heat-sink with
> a fan in it. Passive heat sinks only work well if your case fans can
> move enough cool air across them.
>
> > 2 each Maxtor EIDE 18GB fixed disk 220
> > IDE cd-rom reader/burner 200
> > Adaptec 2940UW SCSI card 175
>
> Get SCSI hard drives and a SCSI CD-RW drive. They'll cost a little
> more, but the extra performance is well worth it. (If you don't want
> SCSI drives, then ditch the SCSI card.)
>
> Note that mother motherboards only include two IDE channels. And only
> one drive on each channel can be in-use at any given time. Since you
> are planning on three drives, one of the channels will have two drives
> on it. This will hurt performance for any application that accesses
> those two drives at once.
>
> for the SCSI card, don't use Ultra-Wide. Spend a little more and get an
> Ultra2 controller. The extra speed (80M/s vs 40M/s) will come in handy
> since you're attaching two hard drives - and may be accessing them both
> at once. Furthermore, Ultra2 (LVD) drives allow for much longer cables
> (up to 12m) than Ultra-Wide (which only allows 1.5m). The longer cables
> will allow you to use more drives.
>
> When you get the CD-RW, look for one that is also LVD (Ultra2 or Ultra3)
> SCSI. If you mix LVD and non-LVD drives on a single bus, the bus will
> run in non-LVD mode and you'll be stuck the the slower speeds and
> shorter cables of Ultra-Wide SCSI.
>
> Alternatively, two SCSI channels (either two cards or a single
> dual-channel card) will help solve this problem. Put your LVD drives
> (like hard drives) on one channel, and your non-LVD drives on the
> other.
>
> > 2X AGP graphics card (S3 chipset with 8MB) 300
>
> What S3 board? S3 makes a lot of chipsets. I think you're estimating
> too much money here. $300 can get you a board that is a lot nicer than
> an older S3 chipset and a 8M. Check out some of the boards based on the
> ATI Mach-64 and Mach-128 chipsets. Also the nVidia Riva-TNT2, and the
> Matrox GeForce chipsets are nice.
>
> Visit http://www.xfree86.org/ and browse around there to learn what
> chipsets are compatible with X on Linux. Be sure you install the latest
> version of XFree86 (3.3.6 or 4.0). Most current Linux distributions
> should be including 3.3.6 by now.
>
> > 20 inch Vision Master 1600x1200 monitor 1000
>
> I don't know the specs here. In general, aperature-grill tubes look
> sharper and brighter than shadow-mask tubes. Smaller dot-pitch looks
> better. Higher refresh rates at your preferred resolution will flicker
> less.
>
> > 100mb PCI network card 30
>
> Just make sure it's Linux compatible. Check the list of drivers that
> comes with your distribution if you're not sure.
>
> You didn't mention a tape drive. Look for a SCSI drive. You are going
> to want to make backups of your two 18G hard drives. (Unless you have
> another computer with a tape drive somewhere on your network that you
> can use for your backups.
>
> > I'm wondering whether I can gather the needed parts within the price
> > range I've listed and I need to make sure that the parts I've listed
> > are all compatible. Is there anything important that I've forgotten
> > to list?
>
> The parts should be compatible.
>
> For pricing, you will find that prices can vary widely. If you're not
> picky about who you order from, check out PriceWatch
> (http://www.pricewatch.com). They list items from many dealers so you
> can comparison shop.
>
> Local dealers can either give your great buys, or they can rip you off.
> If you know what you're buying, you can do well with them. Computer
> flea markets ("shows") are also good sources - you usually find a lot of
> local vendors in one place at these kinds of events.
>
> -- David
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From: "Richard Clafton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Slim cases for rack-mounted solution
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 08:33:26 +0100
Reply-To: "Richard Clafton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
"Paul Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Tim Haynes wrote:
> >"Richard Clafton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> >> www.oseu.co.uk\news.htm
>
> >Aaaaaaaaaaargh!. WTF??
>
> It`s appalling isn`t it?[0] Who would want a newline in the middle of a
> malformed URL?
>
> [0] Yes, I also hate backquotes used as apostrophes.
> --
> Paul Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> at home, swap dash to dot to email.
Sorry! www.oseu.co.uk/news.htm
Better?
Dick
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From: "Mike Nevin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Panasonic Cr5X CD
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 07:30:15 GMT
Anyone know whether you can run a panasonic interface CD on Linux (Definite
7) If so how? It runs from an Aztech Souncard interface.
Mike
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Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 10:06:27 +0200
From: Koenraad Van Nieuwenhove <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Postscript printing using serial port
Hello,
I have troubles printing on a Apple Personal Laserwriter NT (postscript
level 1) under SuSE 6.4 using the serial port (ttyS0)
I got it working up to the point that it prints the first page of a
document (most of the time I'm using emacs). But I don't succeed to
print more than one page. After the first page the led blinks for about
one minute (lpc says that the queues are empty) and then just stops
blinking, so the remaining pages never got printed. Printing very simple
postscriptcode or more difficult postscriptcode (different type of fonts
and graphics) works, but only for one page... (fyi, when I go back to
Windows 98 I can print multiple pages).
I tried with long and short documents with always the same results. Only
the first page is printed, the others never come out.
I tried Xon/Xoff and hardware flow control (both supported by the
LaserWriter).
I tried to change a lot of the parameters in printcap (especially :ty:
parameters).
I tried to change the timeout settings using setserial without success.
My system is a Pentium III/667 MHz, 128MByte RAM, 20 GByte harddisk.
The serial ports are at the standard addresses/IRQs and have a build in
FiFo (16550 type of UART)
Is there a tried and ready printcap(?) to get my printer printing all
the pages?
Thanks,
Koenraad Van Nieuwenhove
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From: Kheng-Teong Goh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: soundblaster pci 128 in linux?
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 16:00:52 +0800
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Peter Crilly wrote:
> I have my SoundBlaster PCI 128 running using ES1371 drivers under SuSE 6.4
> What problems are you having?
> Pete
What kernel are u running? Is my SB Vibra 128 the same?
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From: Ruediger Knoerig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: parallel port programming
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 10:27:55 +0200
Hi folks!
Last week I tried to write an interface program to a parallel port PIC
programmer, which was supplied only with DOS 16 Bit Software. DOS and Win
shit are history :-). The main task is to set D0 and D1 according to a
synchroneous serial connection, so I tried a simple fopen() with
/dev/parport or /dev/lp0 (as root) and unformatet writings with fputc() -
big fail. Is there a better way to get this job done?
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From: Iain Rae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: apollo Fax/modem PC Card
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 14:10:25 +0100
Hi all,
I've just got a laptop wich was supplied with an Apollo 56K fax/modem, I
think it's an FM560 but there's no markings on the modem itself other
than Apollo Fax/Modem PC Card, the serial number and a CE number
(0682X) cardctl shows it as LT WIN MODEM. Can anyone confirm what I
suspect, that this is a Lucent chipset based win modem?
--
Iain Rae
Computing Officer
Dept. Civil & Offshore Engineering
Heriot-Watt University
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Subject: Problems with Hot Rod 66, Fireball lct10
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kenneth Rørvik)
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 08:51:44 GMT
I am running Mandrake 7.0 with the standard 2.2.16 kernel and the IDE patch
from Hedrick to get support for my Hot Rod 66 HPT 366 based PCI card.
Currently, I have both the hard drive (Fireball lct10, 10G on hda, onboard)
and cdrom (hdc, onboard), on the mainboard controller. (Gigabyte ga5ax
rev3.0, ALI Aladdin V chipset)
Compile is successful (Enabled HPT366 support, USING_DMA_FIRST), and the
Hot Rod is properly detected on bootup. Everything OK so far.
However, if I switch the Fireball over to the HOT ROD 66, and try to boot
from it, the kernel hangs when it tries to probe the hard drive now on hde.
Passing hde=noprobe to the kernel makes the kernel boot proberly again, but
of course, now the hard drive is not detected :( ide.txt says to pass the
drive geometry to the kernel at boot time, but this does not help (wrong
values?)
Any experiences?
--
Kenneth Rørvik 91841353/22718452
Steenstrupsgate 5 B [EMAIL PROTECTED]
0554 OSLO home.no.net/stasis
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From: Espen Sand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: large disks (> 32 GB)
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 09:02:10 GMT
Hi,
Can anyone tell me if it is possible to use those new
large IDE disks (72 gigs) that arrive on the market
these days? By "use" I mean I want to access the
whole disk.
If so:
1) Is the BIOS important if I am not going to boot
from one of those? (I would guess not, but I better
ask)
2) What (experimental) linux kernel should I go for?
What have been used with success if any?
--
Espen Sand
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: ATI Rage 128 XPERT 2000 - distortion problem
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 09:00:26 GMT
Hello,
I'm running SuSE 6.4 with XFree86 to 3.3.6 and a ATI Rage 128 XPERT 2000
graphic card. Everytime I move a window around in KDE, a distortion appear on
the screen.
I've tried different color modes (32, 24, 16 bit), resolutions and video
frequencies. But with no effect. Also a "no_accel" doesn't help very much.
Is there any help to fix this?. Thanks,
Stefan
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: John Mamer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Compaq Deskpro: strange problem
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 09:38:12 GMT
Hi all,
I've just installed RH 6.2 on my new 666 mhz Compaq Deskpro EN with a
Matrox Millenium Video card. Installation went smoothly, I accepted
most of the defaults. The system has been showing strange behavior.
When I reboot, the linux OS boots O.K. but the X-server hangs. I type
"startx" and the server starts to come up (changes the screen,
resolution etc) starts to paint some windows, and then hangs and cuts
out the keyboard. I can't even get back to a terminal. I have to power
the system down and reboot. Now for the wierd part. If I repeat the
power down, reboot cycle a couple of times, eventually the X-server
boots. Once booted it seem sto run fine, until I have to bring the
system down again.
Has anybody experienced anything like this? My suspicion is an x-server
config problem. Any advice would be appreciated.
thank you
john mamer
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From: Marcel Pol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Scanner HP Scanjet 5100c
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 09:39:55 GMT
Louis Cyfer wrote:
>
> Does it work under Linux and how?
Yes, it should.
Check out http://www.mostang.com/sane
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SuSE 6.3 Kernel 2.2.13
This sig is stolen.
But it was released under GNU, wasn't it?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew McDonald)
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Slim cases for rack-mounted solution
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 10:50:04 +0100
On Tue, 27 Jun 2000 08:33:26 +0100,
Richard Clafton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Tim Haynes wrote:
> > >"Richard Clafton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > >> www.oseu.co.uk\news.htm
> >
> > >Aaaaaaaaaaargh!. WTF??
>
> Sorry! www.oseu.co.uk/news.htm
ITYM, http://www.oseu.co.uk/news.htm
Andrew
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Andrew McDonald
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.mcdonald.org.uk/andrew/
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From: Yidao Cai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HP, Linux, and tape drives :-(
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 14:08:02 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
HP SureStore DAT24 works fine. It's 24 GB and is fast.
Actually they have a web page about how to operate tape drives (for unix
in general, but works in Linux).
cai
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From: Juergen Sauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: USB driver for Sony Vaio laptop?
Date: 27 Jun 2000 08:58:40 GMT
Ujwal Sathyam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb
am Thu, 15 Jun 2000 04:25:42 GMT in comp.os.linux.hardware:
US> Hi,
US> I have a Sony Vaio PCG F480 laptop, and Mandrake Linux works great on
US> it. However, the USB ports don't seem to work. Does anybody know if
US> there is a driver I can use to make them work? I have Mandrake 7.1.
Ask Sony!
And if Sony refuses support & drivers then boycott Sony!!
Every manufactuerer should be boycotted if they do not
deliver support and driver modules for Linux.
Every company who does only deliver it's products only for Windows
should be punished also!
mfG
Jojo
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From: Juergen Sauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: GeForce driver installation for a linux newbie.
Date: 27 Jun 2000 09:05:26 GMT
wooly mammoth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb
am Sun, 18 Jun 2000 02:13:19 GMT in comp.os.linux.hardware:
wm> I am a complete newbie to Linux. Just installed Mandrake 7.0. I have the
wm> GeForce drivers for Linux. How do I install them? The name of the file I
wm> have is Riva-X-GLX-1.0-libc5-i386-dyn.tar.gz . I don't even know what
wm> tar is but I assume it's used for a compressed file. How do I
wm> un-compress it? Where do I place the resulting files and what do I do to
wm> install the drivers? Thanks.
You can test the file:
tar tvzf Riva-X-GLX-1.0-libc5-i386-dyn.tar.gz
You can eXtract the files:
tar xvzf Riva-X-GLX-1.0-libc5-i386-dyn.tar.gz
The manual to aktivate should be inside the archive.
Good Luck
Jojo
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From: Juergen Sauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Dual or single processor
Date: 27 Jun 2000 09:17:16 GMT
John F. Connolly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb
am Sat, 17 Jun 2000 14:52:39 +0100 in comp.os.linux.hardware:
JFC> I am about to upgrade my conmputer -
JFC> Should I go for a dual celeron 566, or a single P3 650?
JFC> I'm running Suse linux 6.3 with 128Mb Ram,
Hi John this depends from the work you want to do with the
system.
If you want one mono-task-programm run very fast the P3 is the choice,
if you have a multithreaded/multiprocess environment,
Database-, File-, Print-, News-, Proxy- and other Serverprocesses or
if you have more than one active user using cpu intensive programms, or
if you are developer who develop software (make -j "n-of-CPU+1") then
the multi cpu system is the choice.
Here my thoughts for the SMP controverse in a Table:
Mono CPU | Multi CPU
============================================
Singleuser Games |
Internet Surfer |
| Internet Surfer + Proxy + INN + DNS on same host
| Networkserver Samba|NFS and other
| more useres at same time with KDE or Gnome (KDM etc)
| Developer (make -j n runns a build faster)
| 3D Developer, Rendering in Background Process
Single User host |
The point is: How many work is to do synchronously ?
Good Luck
Jojo
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