Linux-Hardware Digest #270, Volume #13           Thu, 20 Jul 00 10:13:09 EDT

Contents:
  Re: DMA on AMD Irongate? (J Bland)
  Re: What distribution to install ? ("jack")
  Re: problem with compiling please help thanks ("Gene Heskett")
  Re: Invalid Flag attempting to set up Lucent PCI WinModem (Wesley Wong)
  Re: CPU temperature (Kenneth R�rvik)
  Re: CPU temperature (Kenneth R�rvik)
  Re: Linux support for Sony AIT drive (SDX-300X)? (Marc SCHAEFER)
  Epox KP6 BS dual  trouble ("Torleif Solli")
  Re: CPU temperature (Michael Hofmann)
  Re: CPU temperature (Kenneth R�rvik)
  Re: CPU temperature (Michael Hofmann)
  Re: Newbie needs help with Linux/Hard drive (Bernard Murray, PhD)
  Re: CPU temperature (Kenneth R�rvik)
  Re: Problem configuring X for S3 Savage 3D card (Uwe Malzahn)
  Re: Newbie looking for documentation ("Jeremy Gregorio")
  SERVERS ("Simon")
  Re: CPU temperature (Michael Hofmann)
  Re: advice needed: best vid card? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  The eternal Adaptec problem - a possible solution ("James A Wilde")
  Re: (setting up a web-) SERVER (Dances With Crows)
  Random Power Shutdown (Patrick M Geahan)
  Linux on Helio PDA (James Omura)
  Re: What distribution to install ? (Chem-R-Us)
  Re: Help ! My printer devices is not loaded in Redhat6.1 (Joshua Baker-LePain)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (J Bland)
Subject: Re: DMA on AMD Irongate?
Date: 20 Jul 2000 10:09:59 GMT

On Mon, 17 Jul 2000 18:36:17 GMT, Armin Kaiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>is it safe to activate via hdparm DMA-Mode on
>a ASUS K7M (AMD Irongate 751 Chipset)? Are there
>any known problems?

Have one of these myself. Do *not* activate it unless you're using the
latest kernel and patches from
ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/hedrick/

Without these I have had drives lock up totally seconds after activating it
(the same goes for a number of other newer chipsets).

Frinky

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Reply-To: "jack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "jack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What distribution to install ?
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 06:20:26 -0400

Try Slackware..
But it does seem a matter of personal preference in the end.

Good luck!

B�rre Nordbakken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8l6a7c$n9q$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> RedHat 6.2
> SuSE 6.4
> Slackware 7
>
> --
> B�rre
>
>
>



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Date: 20 Jul 2000 4:7:4 -0500
From: "Gene Heskett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: problem with compiling please help thanks

Unrot13 this;
Reply to: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Gene Heskett sends Greetings to Gohan8774 ;

> i copied tulip.c to /usr/src/linux/drivers/net and im reading
> instructions on how to compile that file. and after it's compiled it
> asks me to copy the tulip.o into the lastest kernel's modules ex cp
> tulip.o
> /lib/modules/2.0.XX/net/tulip.o. the problem is with the compiling
> code. It doesn't work. what should i do?

> the compiling code i used is:
> gcc -DMODULE -D__kERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux/net/inet -Wall
> -Wstrict-prototypes
> -o6 -
> Tha didn't work. Is there another command that i could to to
> compile?

It sounds like you're using the drivers from the floppy that comes with
the card.  They work just fine if you copy the whole linux directory
from the floppy, and then cd to it, and the do a ./cctulip.  Works
everytime.  There is, or was, a readme on the floppy describing this
FWIW.

Cheers, Gene
-- 
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never to be seen again.  Message will be summarily deleted without dl.
This messages reply content, but not any previously quoted material, is
� 2000 by Gene Heskett, all rights reserved.
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From: Wesley Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Invalid Flag attempting to set up Lucent PCI WinModem
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 10:30:03 GMT

I am using 2.2.16-3. As u said, the ltmodem module doesn't work. Is there a
way to configure it so it works? What do you mean by "compatible ppp
support" ?? I will try to recompile my kernel is neccesary....


> I don't know what kernel SuSe 6.3 uses, but ltmodem works to 2.2.13.  It
> might work to 2.2.14.  And it won't work on 2.2.15 and 2.2.16 unless you
> recompile the kernel to have compatible ppp support.
> 


--
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Subject: Re: CPU temperature
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kenneth R�rvik)
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 10:39:00 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter T. Breuer) wrote in 
<8l6ia4$f21$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


>Hey .. I'm in my right mind and I've been "overclocking" my celeron 300a
>to 450 for three years and I'm very happy. It's about 1% slower than a
>new P3 500, according to kernel compile tests. I saved about $800 and
>several years.

Agreed :) Temperature is not the only variable in this equation. There are 
also signal leaks, L2 cache performance, memory timings and many other 
things that affect the CPUs ability to overclock. 

CPU "speed" specs are as far as I know based on statistical sampling of 
batches, and thus there can easily be CPUs from certain batches that can 
safely be clocked above the recommendations from the manufacturer. I 
sincerely doubt AMD and Intel have the resources to test every CPU leaving 
their production lines.... The clock specs on the CPU must therefore be a 
"worst case" number, leaving room for experimentation. Thus the "multiplier 
lock" from Intel can only be a way of milking more money from their 
celerons, to prevent people from freely setting their speed.

Actually, the newer Celerons are simply PIIIs that have some on-die cache 
turned off together with a specific set of instructions (I think). They 
even come from the same production lines, but failed to pass the 
requirements for PIII specs. Which accounts for the near-PIII performance 
levels you get. And also explains why Intel introduced the multiplier lock. 
It's simply a means of increasing PIII sales.

-- 
Kenneth R�rvik          91841353/22718452
Steenstrupsgate 5 B     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
0554 OSLO               home.no.net/stasis

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Subject: Re: CPU temperature
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kenneth R�rvik)
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 10:40:05 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kenneth R�rvik) wrote in
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: 

>Thus the "multiplier lock" from Intel can only be a way of milking more
>money from their celerons, to prevent people from freely setting their
>speed. 

Umm, I meant the PIIIs. 
-- 
Kenneth R�rvik          91841353/22718452
Steenstrupsgate 5 B     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
0554 OSLO               home.no.net/stasis

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From: Marc SCHAEFER <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.periphs.scsi,comp.arch.storage
Subject: Re: Linux support for Sony AIT drive (SDX-300X)?
Date: 20 Jul 2000 07:55:12 GMT

In comp.arch.storage Charles R. Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: I have recently purchased a Sony SDX-300C SCSI tape drive, having

NB: your end-of lines are non standard.

: been led to believe that Linux supported it.  I am very
: interested in hearing from anyone who has this device working

I have used a demonstration version of the AIT drive back in 1998 or 1997,
with UNIX/Linux (tools: mt, dd, tar, cpio, diff).

:    BOT WR_PROT ONLINE IM_REP_EN

yes, that's bizarre. What are the DIP switch settings on the drive ?

: 
:http://ccpgprod.sel.sony.com/ccpg/ccpg_eusub_download?file=linux1.1.zip&model_id=SDX-300C

nono. No need to use a proprietary driver for a standard SCSI Streaming
Device (this is not OnStream :))

: Thanks for any information you can provide.

As a quick fix attempt, modify the following in the Linux kernel, and
recompile the st module (or everything, depending on your setup).

This is NOT a fix. This is a hack. It's just to see if your problem
can be worked-around. Please report success or failure, along with
firmware version, kernel version and all the usual stuff.

--- st.c.ORIG   Thu Jul 20 09:55:47 2000
+++ st.c        Thu Jul 20 09:58:17 2000
@@ -807,7 +807,7 @@
            __MOD_DEC_USE_COUNT(st_template.module);
        return (-EIO);
       }
-      STp->drv_write_prot = ((STp->buffer)->b_data[2] & 0x80) != 0;
+      STp->drv_write_prot = 0; /* HACK! */
     }
     scsi_release_command(SCpnt);
     SCpnt = NULL;


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From: "Torleif Solli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Epox KP6 BS dual  trouble
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 13:13:47 +0200

Hi
I have and 1year old Epox KP6-BS dual card at home runing linux great.. so I
thought I could buy me a new one and install it as a Linux Server.... when I
got the new mainbard it was a new rev. well its okay I thought and Installed
it... but when I booted up linux(insalled it first on the old MB with no
problem) my keaboard just didnt work, nothing...so I booted up in dos and
the keyb worked... it must be an issue in linux... annyone had the same
problem.. maybe knows how to fix it ?
Torleif Solli





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From: Michael Hofmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CPU temperature
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 13:15:54 +0200

"Kenneth R�rvik" wrote:
> 
> CPU "speed" specs are as far as I know based on statistical sampling of
> batches, and thus there can easily be CPUs from certain batches that can
> safely be clocked above the recommendations from the manufacturer. 

Or below...
Last year I bought an AMD K6-3 400 that would only work with 95MHz front
side bus instead of the specified 100MHz. I had it exchanged to be able
to run the specified speed.

Michael

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Subject: Re: CPU temperature
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kenneth R�rvik)
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 11:52:39 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Hofmann) wrote in 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

>Or below...
>Last year I bought an AMD K6-3 400 that would only work with 95MHz front
>side bus instead of the specified 100MHz. I had it exchanged to be able
>to run the specified speed.

That is, of course, possible too. Maybe the L2 cache couldn't cope? 
Disabling it might help. But then you'd have a slower system anyway... ;)

-- 
Kenneth R�rvik          91841353/22718452
Steenstrupsgate 5 B     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
0554 OSLO               home.no.net/stasis

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From: Michael Hofmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CPU temperature
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 14:09:51 +0200

"Kenneth R�rvik" wrote:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Hofmann) wrote in
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
> >Or below...
> >Last year I bought an AMD K6-3 400 that would only work with 95MHz front
> >side bus instead of the specified 100MHz. I had it exchanged to be able
> >to run the specified speed.
> 
> That is, of course, possible too. Maybe the L2 cache couldn't cope?
> Disabling it might help. But then you'd have a slower system anyway... ;)

I didn't bother to find out. I was very impressed with the speed
improvement that came with the L2 cache as opposed to the K6-2
(compiling a kernel ~20%+ at same clockrate), so I wanted to use it to
it's full extent.

Have fun,
Michael

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bernard Murray, PhD)
Subject: Re: Newbie needs help with Linux/Hard drive
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 21:20:29 -0700

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, George/USA
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> George/USA wrote:
> > Actually, I think it is the BIOS fault.  The machine was purchased in 1995,
> > so the ancient BIOS may not be able to address all that space. <<shrug>>

> And thats what it appears to be.
> So, I must upgrade the BIOS (according to WD) in order to be able to access
> the full, unjumpered capacity
> of the hard drive under Linux. 

Have you tried passing the real HD geometery (C/H/S) to the kernel as
it boots?  I seem to remember that working with some of the old 1.x
kernels (Slackware 2.0?).  This at least allowed me to get past the
504 Mb BIOS limit at the time.
   Bernard

-- 
Bernard P. Murray, PhD
bpmurray at cgl . ucsf . edu
Department of Cellular & Molecular Pharmacology, UCSF

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Subject: Re: CPU temperature
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kenneth R�rvik)
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 12:18:30 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Hofmann) wrote in
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: 

>I didn't bother to find out. I was very impressed with the speed
>improvement that came with the L2 cache as opposed to the K6-2
>(compiling a kernel ~20%+ at same clockrate)

Definitely - I've been trying to get hold of a K6-3 for quite some time, 
but it seems there aren't that many around. Sigh....

-- 
Kenneth R�rvik          91841353/22718452
Steenstrupsgate 5 B     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
0554 OSLO               home.no.net/stasis

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Uwe Malzahn)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: Re: Problem configuring X for S3 Savage 3D card
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 18:23:56 +0200

In article <8kvsua$rhf$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        "Milan Gornik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I have S3 Savage 3d video card (revision 86C390), on AGP slot, with 8 MB on
> it. I tried to use XF86Setup to configure X for my video card, but that was
> not successfull (server always hangs). I tried many options (different
> servers (vga16, svga, s3), different resolutions ...) but server could run
> only in standard vga 640x480 mode, using 16 colors. Can someone help me?
> 

Take a look at http://www.s3p.co.uk/ they have working X servers for the
S3/S4 Savage family. The current would be xf86_1011.

Cheers
Uwe

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From: "Jeremy Gregorio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Newbie looking for documentation
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 05:33:06 -0700


>man 5 conf.modules.

I've been searching for modules.conf, should have tried the other way around
sooner. Thanks again!

Jeremy Gregorio
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




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From: "Simon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: SERVERS
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 13:43:37 +0100

Hi,

 Can someone let me know how to set up your own web server, I am pissed off
with hosting companies and poor performance.

please reply to

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks.

Simon.



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From: Michael Hofmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CPU temperature
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 14:43:22 +0200

"Kenneth R�rvik" wrote:
> 
> Definitely - I've been trying to get hold of a K6-3 for quite some time,
> but it seems there aren't that many around. Sigh....

Yes, it's striking how quickly they have been phased out. Seems like the
additional cache decreased AMD's profit significantly, so they stopped
producing it. At least that's what I imagine...

Michael

PS: nice homepage, although lacking a few pics. Reminds me of having to
update the computer section of mine....

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: advice needed: best vid card?
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 12:48:56 GMT

Well I would like good 2D and 3D performance... but I suppose good 3D
performance (i.e. GL) is most important as I do play a few games every
once in a while (e.g. Quake3 in a window on xFree86 4.0.1)...

Jim


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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Reply-To: "James A Wilde" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "James A Wilde" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: The eternal Adaptec problem - a possible solution
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 15:10:52 +0200

My setup:  Fujitsu H532i Team Server with twin 100 MHz Pentium processors
and twin on-board Adaptec AIC7870 SCSI chips.  Bios is 1.00.10 GPO and SCSI
bios is Adaptecs 1.26sP8.  The first SCSI channel has 4 x 2 Gb Seagate hard
drives, 1 Matshita CD-ROM drive and 1 HP tape drive.

Installation of RH 6.2 has consistently stalled on trying to scan the SCSI
setup.  Message is parity error on message-in.  Doug Ledford's heroic
efforts have not solved the problem for this machine, and a few others which
I have heard about.  But thanks anyway, Doug.

Acting on a suggestion from Knut Stormkartr I tried earlier versions of RH
Linux.  5.0 and 5.1 would install but not 5.2 on my machine.  Since I don't
have a cd for 5.1 and haven't yet found an iso image this version never
reached completion but it was not a SCSI problem that stopped it.  I have
now managed to install Red Hat version 5.0, kernel 2.0.32.  The only problem
I had is that it thinks my 3C905 NIC is a 3C509, which is a pity.

Knut reports to me that he could install 5.1 and 5.2 (he doesn't say
anything about 5.0) and subsequently upgrade to 6.1.  It may also be
important that he has a 2740 card.

That's it, for what it is worth to any other unfortunates struggling with
the same problem.

What I want to do now is find out how to upgrade to 6.2, bypassing the SCSI
scan at the beginning of the process.  If anyone has any ideas on this I'd
be grateful.  Can it be as easy as replacing the directory structure on my
hard disks with the equivalent directories from the 6.2 cd and replacing the
kernel?  Or is the scsi handling built in to the kernel which means patching
the 6.2 source with the 5.0 scsi routines?

TIA
--


mvh/regards

James




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: (setting up a web-) SERVER
Date: 20 Jul 2000 13:17:12 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[posted and mailed]
On Thu, 20 Jul 2000 13:43:37 +0100, Simon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Can someone let me know how to set up your own web server, I am pissed off
>with hosting companies and poor performance.
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Since you asked in a Linux newsgroup, I'll assume you want to use
Apache.  Most distros include Apache; just use your distro's package
management tool (RPM, pkgtool, apt-get) to install it.  If yours doesn't
have Apache, go to http://apache.org/ and get it!  Information on
setting up and configuring Apache can be found in the following
locations: 
   http://apache.org/docs/
   /usr/doc/packages/apache   (if Apache is installed)

Configuration is pretty simple; the default httpd.conf file is
well-commented.  You will of course want a machine that has a dedicated
net connection that's up 24/7 to run this server on, and you will also
want a domain name.  Getting those things are beyond the scope of
Apache, but visit http://linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/ and look at the DNS-HOWTO
if you don't have a domain name already.  I presume you already have
ISDN, DSL, a cable modem, or something similar.

-- 
Matt G|There is no Darkness in eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
A bomb is a female dog.  Ketchup is a two wheeled vehicle.  Vegetables
can be smoked, just like crack.  Crack is a poor substitute for
caffeine.  --MegaHAL

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From: Patrick M Geahan<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Random Power Shutdown
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.help
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 13:29:58 GMT

Gotta minor problem here I was hpoing someone could help me with.  I have
a RH6.2 system running on a Gateway 2000 P200MMX system.  The system is
configured with a Diamond Fireport 40 SCSI adapter, 1 4.5GB IBM SCSI
drive, 32 MB RAM, a 4MB knockoff vid card, and 2 3COM 3c509 Ethernet
cards.  The system's been mine since last November, running like a charm.  

Recently, however, it's been having this annoying little problem of
randomyl shutting off.  At completely random times, the machine will power
off, without going through shutdown process.  There is no information in
the logs to tell me when this happens.  If I don't happen to be sitting
right there when it happens, I have to guesstimate the shutdown time based
on when the logs stop.

I've had it happen during startup, while I'm logged in, and while I'm not
home.  I've come up with several possible scenarios:

1.  Power problems in my apartment.  POssibility, but unlikely - I have
several other pieces of equipment plugged into the same outlet, and they
have no trouble.

2.  Problem with the power supply.  Distinct possibility.

3.  Problem with a daemon that causes shutdown.  Doubtful, because the
machine SHOULDN'T power off then. If I do a 'shutdown -h now, when
shutdown is complete, it will shut itself off.   However, in terms of a
system freeze or crash, I wouldn't think it would do so.

4.  Problem with apmd(or other power management that causes the power
supply to cycle off. I don't know enough about apmd to make a valid guess
here.

5.  SOme other random problem.

Has anyone seen this behavior before?  Mainly, I'm looking to see if
anyone has heard of this problem occuring with RH6.2.  If it's a hardware
problem, which I'm investigating, I'll take my q somewhere else.  Has
anyone heard of this behavior before?  

-- 

=======Patrick M [EMAIL PROTECTED]=======ICQ:3784715==========
Quote of the Week: "'Do you want to take a look at my regular expressions
?' is not a valid chat-up line" - Chris King in the Monastery.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (James Omura)
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Linux on Helio PDA
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 09:37:21 -0400

     With all the other discussion about Linux on PDAs,
I was going to mention that a port to the VTech Helio has
been available for a few weeks now.  Apparently, it's in
somewhat buggy early stages.  The project leaders are
looking for "a few good people" to help develop this
port.  As far as I know, at $179 US, this is currently the
cheapest Linux PDA available, and it is being given official
support and assistance of VTechInformation.  Moreover,
though the hardware is not as powerful as the iPaq or the
Samsung, the MIPS processor (the same one that was used in
the Philips Ninos) is more powerful than the 20MHz
Dragonball used in best Palm devices.  The Helio's 2MB
Flash + 8MB DRAM is equal to the latest Palm devices.

     I was hoping to try it out before mentioning it, but
after due consideration, I think I'll wait till a later
version.  However, for those who are interested in
assisting with the system level development, it's a good
time to get involved.

  See:

http://vhl-tools.sourceforge.net/

-- 
The Moving Target:  mobile information technology
http://www.pathcom.com/~jimomura/

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Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 07:03:39 -0700
From: Chem-R-Us <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What distribution to install ?

"B�rre Nordbakken" wrote:
> 
> RedHat 6.2
> SuSE 6.4
> Slackware 7

These are all good distributions. You may prefer the rpm package
management system. It makes installing/upgrading Linux easier for
newbies:

Redhat
SuSE
Linux-Mandrake (http://www.linux-mandrake.com)
Turbolinux

All use the rpm system (these are the ones I know about). I happen to be
using Linux-Mandrake.

-- 

Chem-R-Us

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From: Joshua Baker-LePain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help ! My printer devices is not loaded in Redhat6.1
Date: 20 Jul 2000 14:02:42 GMT

K. M. Lau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dear All :

> I am running redhat 6.1 Linux. When I used Print Tool to configure my
> printer,
> I got the following error message form Print Tool:

A 5 minute search on deja.com would show that this has been answered
*many* times.

http://www.redhat.com/support/docs/gotchas/6.1/gotchas-6.1-6.html#ss6.19

-- 
Joshua Baker-LePain
Department of Biomedical Engineering
Duke University

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