Linux-Hardware Digest #819, Volume #13           Tue, 31 Oct 00 14:13:07 EST

Contents:
  RAM Quota: How do I do it? (Sithicus Maledictus)
  Re: Comments wanted on Linux_Calculation_Server spec. (Henrik Carlqvist)
  Re: Adding new drive to the existing system (Henrik Carlqvist)
  Re: Symbios 53C1010 problem.. (Henrik Carlqvist)
  Re: Help for SMP and 3D graphics hardware (Joshua Baker-LePain)
  Re: Automatic Powerdown problems (Alex Deucher)
  Re: Problem video card Sis6215 (Alex Deucher)
  Re: Opinions On Presario 1800? (Mark Paris)
  Re: Seagate 8000A Tape Drive (Alex Deucher)
  Re: EMU APS and KDE2 ("Gene Heskett")
  Re: Philips webcam partially works-help! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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From: Sithicus Maledictus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RAM Quota: How do I do it?
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 13:10:26 -0500



    I am running SuSE Linux, and am wondering... is there any way I can
lmit how much RAM Physical and Virtual that a user uses? And if so, how
can I go about doing so?


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From: Henrik Carlqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Comments wanted on Linux_Calculation_Server spec.
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 20:14:55 +0100

Lennart wrote:
> The motherboard should have an option for 2 proc. but we want only
> one at this moment

This will make the motherboard about twice as expensive, maybe even more
depending on model. If you don't need the speed, go for a single CPU
board. Later you will be able to replace the motherboard and maybe buy
two new and faster CPUs. Otherwise buy two CPUs from the start.

> RAM: 2 Gb

RAM is easier to upgrade later than CPUs.

> HD: Not more than 20 Gb. SCSI type, I presume

SCSI isn't always faster than IDE, however it takes less CPU resources.
 
> AMD or Intel?

With 2 CPUs you should choose intel.

> Can Linux use all the 2 Gb with RAM?

Yes.

> What kind of disk solution/controller should we choose? RAID or not?
> Data will be stored in another area, so no backup is necessary

It sounds as if you will not need RAID. What kind of data do you plan to
store on local disk? There are different kinds of RAID, RAID0 is for
speed, RAID5 is for security by redundancy.

A local disk, especially SCSI and especially with a lot of RAM to cache,
will give a lot better performance than NFS.

> Some few users only will be using this

If several users or processes are working at the same performance will
improve with two CPUs.

regards Henrik
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From: Henrik Carlqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Adding new drive to the existing system
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 19:58:54 +0100

NTK wrote:
> How do I find out if the SCSI support is compiled into the kernel?

If so your SCSI controller will be automatically detected at boot and a
message about it will be printed.

> If not, how do I compile the SCSI support into the kernel?

cd /usr/src/linux
more README

The above assumes that you did install the package containing the kernel
source.

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From: Henrik Carlqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Symbios 53C1010 problem..
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 20:34:17 +0100

"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" wrote:
> I have also downloaded the patches, and built a new kernel.
> 
> Now I am trying to fix the following problemsL
> => I have to make a new install disk somehow; if I make a boot disk
> on another machine there is a kernel panic because the system cannot
> find the root file system (of course).

Change root file system with the rdev command. See "man rdev" for more
info.

> => When I succeed in doing so, I may be able to recognize the
> SCSI-controller and hopefully the CD-ROM drive; but I will still be
> booting from my floppy drive, so I must find a way to mount the
> CD-ROM drive...?
> => Finally I have to find out how to run the installation program on
> teh CD-ROM drive manually I suppose.

Are you trying to make your own custom install floppies? That is harder
than just making a boot floppy for an existing installation.

> Does anybody have any experiences here? Am I making a mistake?

Once I made my own installation boot floppy for Slackware. I found some
useful information in /usr/src/linux/Documentation/ramdisk.txt which
helped me a lot.

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From: Joshua Baker-LePain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help for SMP and 3D graphics hardware
Date: 31 Oct 2000 18:15:47 GMT

Mathias Paulin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> My configuration is :
> Asus motherBoard P2B-D 440BX Dual processor
> 1GO PC133 SDRAM
> Adaptec AIC-7892 Ultra 160/m SCSI host adapter
> two IBM DNES-309170W 9Gb hard drives
> Nvidia GeForce DDR 32Mo
> Redhat Linux 6.2
> Redhat Linux 7.0

Nice setup.  How fast are the processors?

> on both version of Redhat Linux, the problem is the same : reboot with
> some OpenGL apps.
> It works fine with QuakeIII (but useless).
> It works fine with performer. 
> It reboots on some test in SpecViewPerf
> It reboots on some local-developped OpenGL apps.

I ran into the same problem on a dual PIII933, 512MB RDRAM Dell Precision
420 with the i840 chipset.  Fortunately, I don't *need* the 3D right now,
so I'm waiting to see if the drivers stabilize.

For professional level stuff and applications that you need working now, 
I would look at the commercial X drivers from, e.g., Xi Graphics.  They 
have a list of supported cards and driver prices at:

http://www.xigraphics.com/Pages/3D-LGD-List.html

Disclaimer: I've never used their stuff, so I can't speak to compatibility,
ease of installation, etc.  But they do have downloadable demos.

In terms of cards, I've heard the 3DLabs Oxygen series boards are nice...

-- 
Joshua Baker-LePain
Department of Biomedical Engineering
Duke University

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Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 13:08:40 -0500
From: Alex Deucher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Automatic Powerdown problems

I can't remember the name of the config off hand, but I think it is
/etc/rc.d/halt.d. I can't remember the exact name, but it is definitely
in /etc/rc.d and way look for a part that says something shutdown and
halt.  
there should be a line that looks like this:

        "halt"

replace that with:

        "halt -p"

save, reboot and your pc should now powerdown.

Alex

Frank wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> when I logout from Gnome and select 'Halt' my system does not automatically
> powerdown. However, if I select 'Halt' from the graphical logon screen menu
> (before you log in) my system does powerdown automatically.
> 
> The shutdown sequence seems identical to me, however, when the system does
> power down automatically the message 'Power Off' appears briefly before the
> computer turns off. When I have to turn it off manually it just says "The
> system is now halted."
> 
> I am running RedHat 7 on an AMD TBird 750, Asus A7V mobo. Does anyone have
> any idea what can cause this? Is there a config file I have to edit
> somewhere so that the system powers off with gnome??
> 
> Thanks,
> Frank

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Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 13:04:29 -0500
From: Alex Deucher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Problem video card Sis6215

edit your XF86Config file and look and the screen section.  set the
resolution you want first.  type "man XF86Config" for more info.

Alex

Ruben Dutan wrote:
> 
> Hello everybody
> 
>      My video card did not function normally. already
> It was configure as Sis 86C205 with 1MB of VRAM, 640x480 of resolution
> but in the moment of start Xwindows displays:
> SVGA:PCI:Sis Unknow chipset(0x0204) ....
> SVGA:Chip generic
> SVGA:VideoRam 64K
> SVGA:Clock 25.18
> SVGA:Builtin Mode:320x200
> SVGA:Virtual Resolution set to 320x204
> 
>     I had intented with diferent configuration but allways
> I get of 320x200 resolution
> 
> Thanks for you help
> Ruben
> 
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

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From: Mark Paris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.laptops
Subject: Re: Opinions On Presario 1800?
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 13:30:38 -0600

Dvarsk wrote:

> "enzo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:8slslr$5lj$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > I'm looking for a laptop. So far nothing has totally jumped out and
> > motivated me to lay down the cash. The machine I am leaning toward
> > getting is the new Compaq 1800. I'd like to see the new Micron GX and
> > Dell I8000 if they arrive soon but not sure I can wait. The Dell I5000
> > is out of the running considering all I've heard about keyboard
> > problems. I can't tolerate something that's almost as good as it should
> > be and for $3500+ it better be pretty defect free.
> >
> > Does anyone have the 1800? Can you give me your opinions?
> >
>
> There are a lot of posts on the 1800t recently. You may want to check Deja
> and search for 1800, or 5000e in the subject line for this group. I
> purchased an i5000e, P3-600, 32x cd, 16mb video, 15" XGA, 10gig drive, then
> returned it and bought a 18XL3, P3-600, 16mb video, 15" SVGA+, 10 gig.  BTW
> look for an 1800 XL 3-- series. The XL2, 1 have the older video card. So far
> only the old systems have been reviewed by the computer mags. Below is a
> list of personal comparisons, followed by my opinion. I'm listing the
> comparisons, because the Dell has some good points, and is the only real
> alternative in this price range. If money is no object, go IBM of course.
>
> Case: Compaq has a better designed case, though,1/2 inch longer than
>            the Dell. Subjective, but the 1800 just feels better. Palmrest is
>            curved, removing the hard edge of the Dell case. In short, the
> Dell
>            suffers from "Dell beige box syndrome" or in this case, black
> box.
>            Positive for the Dell is everyone thinks you have a True Blue IBM
>            when viewed from a distance.
>
> Ethernet: Internal Intel Ethernet on the Compaq so you don't need
>                 to buy an extra pcmcia card. Non issue if you don't need it.
>
> Fan Noise: Compaq has a larger diameter fan than the Dell, consequently
>                    it lacks the higher pitch noise. When not on AC, they are
> a
>                    non-issue as they rarely come on. If you're one of those
>                    people who can't hear watch alarms, it won't matter. If
> you
>                    have good, high pitch hearing, the Dell may grow to
> bother
>                    you.
>
> Gadgets: Dell has a no nonsense approach. Bonus is that the power
>                  light shows on the outside also, so you know that the power
>                  supply is feeding the battery even with the case closed.
>                  (wall switched plugs are a pain aren't they?)
>                  Compaq has the eye candy approach. special hotkeys,
>                  a cdplayer button setup and mini lcd display. Bonus, it
> easily
>                  shows the battery status. Depends on what you want out of
> life.
>                  I have no use for the Compaq rocker switch, the touchpad
>                  scroll function is nicer, but I do like the internet keys.
> One button
>                  dials up the isp , another opens up the browser, another
> outlook
>                  express. One problem, the sound buttons are on the front. I
>                  keep changing my sound settings by accidentally bumping
>                  them.
>
> Keyboard: Compaq is slightly larger. I found myself hitting the capslock
>                    instead of the A key on the Dell.  Not too bad though.
>                    learning the touchpad vs. a trackpoint took more effort
> than
>                    relearning the finger placement. Dell unfortunately chose
> to
>                    put the edit keys: insert, delete, home, etc. on small
> keys
>                    above the main keypad. They are essentially a small row
> of
>                    function keys tacked onto the top right of the keyboard.
> Makes
>                    it really hard to hit the insert or end keys and maintain
> rhythm
>                    when typing. I actually didn't notice the key/screen
> touching
>                    issue on my dell, nor did I have severe keyboard
> movement.
>
> Memory (hd): Typically the same, IBM travelstars.
>
> Memory (ram): Dell has a 512mb max, Compaq has a 320mb max.
>                           320 is ok for me, but this could be a real issue
> for
>                           graphic designers and others who need an enormous
>                           amount of application memory.
>
> Modem: Same internal Lucent modem. It connects like my Xircom
>                56k RealPort, and my non-winmodem 3com 56k isa card.
>
> PCMCIA: Dell has 1 type 3, or 2 type 1 or 2.
>                  Compaq has 1 type 1, 2, or 3.
>                  One of the two on the Dell may be taken up with an Ethernet
>                  card, but if not, you're down by 1 type 1 or 2.
>
> Price: Compaq was cheaper at the time I bought it. Even paying for
>            shipping both ways I could get the Compaq for the same price and
>            upgrade to SXGA+. Then of course, Dell announced a price drop.
>            Dead even last time I looked. This includes 3 year warranties and
>            Ethernet capability on both.
>
> Overall Speed: Pretty much the same. I can't tell the difference.
>
> Second spindle: Dell allows you to swap out the optical bay. Lets you
>                              chose on the fly if you want DVD or CD-RW.
> Compaq
>                              requires you to choose upon ordering. I notice
> the
>                              Dell doesn't have the 32x drive option now.
> Both
>                              companies are now maxing out at 24x. Possibly
>                              because the 32 is very loud when it runs,
> though it was
>                              very fast.
>
> Service: You hear horror stories for both. Compaq, Dell, IBM, Sony,
>                Toshiba all have their detractors. They are getting thousands
> of
>                calls. I know just from questions from relatives  it can take
> a half
>                hour to do a simple procedure over the phone.  Look
>                for local service, either in home, or authorized service
> centers
>                if you want real service. Telephone service is just too hard
> to
>                make every caller happy with it. Dell had on site, the Compaq
>                had a Presario center within 50 miles, near a friends house,
> and
>                possible centers within 7mi, but they might be business only.
>                Local service options are something worth checking first.
>
> Shipping/Returns: Both shipped in a couple days. I ordered the dell
>               via the phone and the Compaq over the web. The Dell did
>               have a 30 day return policy over the Compaq's 14 day. I
>               haven't returned the Compaq, but there was no problem
>               returning the Dell. Called up Monday, shipped it 2 day FedEx,
>               got there wends, credit showed up next Monday. Compaq
>               did have cheaper 2nd day shipping to me than Dell did.
>
> Sound Card: Dell has the ESS Maestro, Compaq uses the Solo 1.
>                       Advantage to Dell due to better 3d hardware
> positioning,
>                       and AC3 pass through capability (not sure if Dell
> takes
>                       advantage of the latter.)
>
> Speakers: Hands down, Compaq. Extremely good sound quality. Would
>                   really need a 3 piece external setup to do better. Dell is
>                   tinny, or more closely plasticy.
>
> Touchpad: Same touchpad area, though the Compaq has a better button
>                    layout. The Dell uses equally sized buttons which makes
> it
>                    easy to hit the wrong one, or hard to hit the right
> [left] one.
>                    If you use 2 hands, the dell is fine. It just takes
> contortions
>                    to use the thumb of your pointer hand. Though, for
> southpaws,
>                    the secondary button on the Compaq would be a problem.
>
> USB: The Compaq has 1 port. I believe the Dell has 2?
>
> Video Display: XGA, SXGA+ the same, Dell offers UXGA. I'm comparing
>                           apples to oranges here, but going to the store, I
> didn't
>                           notice any difference in the XGA displays.  The
> Dell could
>                           have a better SXGA+ screen than the Compaq, but
> the
>                           Compaq I'm looking at is crisp, bright, even in
> colour/
>                           lighting, and has smooth colour gradients. That's
> all I really
>                           look for. I do have one stuck blue pixel that is
> visible on a
>                           black screen (#$%^#)  and the Dell had none,
> However,
>                           someone recently posted about their stuck red
> pixel on
>                           their 5000e. It's a fact of LCD's not a measure of
> quality.
>
> Video performance: Dead even. 1662 on 3DMark2000. (Win2K)
>
> Video out: Dell has S-video out, and a supplied composite connector.
>                   Compaq only has the Composite. Somewhat stupid on
>                   Compaq's part. If you are connecting the computer to a TV
>                   you probably know enough to use a supplied connector if
>                   needed. Setting up the software is much harder than
>                   figuring the cable out.
>
> Weight: The Design of the Dell makes it feel a little heaver when carried
>               with no carry case. Compaq is heftier by 4 ounces I believe.
>               Walking around the office, the Compaq is better, walking to
>               the office the Dell is obviously better by 4 ounces.
>
> Overall I like the Compaq. At home I usually use it while sitting down in an
> easy chair with my feet up. The configuration is easier to hold than the
> Dell. When playing games, the speakers are good enough on the ir own. If you
> want a true desktop replacement the Dell would be better though. The Dell
> allows more options, and can sound better when connected to external
> speakers.  If when it comes home it ends up sitting on your lap while you
> watch TV, play video games, and occasionally do the work you told everyone
> you bought it for, the Compaq is the better choice. If it sits on a desk at
> work and you take it home for security reasons, setting it again on a desk,
> the Dell is a better choice.
>
> Hope that helps, Michael

Enzo,

   Well, I can't add much to the excellent synopsis above except  regarding the

topic of an alternative OS. I have a Presario 1800T - 450MHz, 96 Mb, 9.6 G,
DVD,
Ethernet, 15" XGA -- and I'm overall satisfied with it. I installed RedHat
Linux 6.0
on this thing ( rasputin.physics.uiuc.edu/~paris/linux.html ) and it works
pretty well.
The only trouble I've ever had with crashes is when I try to use the RealPlayer
7.0.
It reaked havoc on my desktop. (Anyone have this problem? Know how to fix it?)
Drivers exist for all the hardware (and Winmodem) including the DVD, though I
haven't
explored this yet. (Anyone?)
   I primarily use the machine to do intensive numerical studies (programmed in
Fortran90)
and the PentiumIII is faster than any of the other (admittedly aged) machines
in my lab.

Mark


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Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 13:13:30 -0500
From: Alex Deucher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Seagate 8000A Tape Drive

make sure the ide-tape module is loaded

Alex

Robert Hancock wrote:
> 
> I have a Seagate 8000A ATAPI tape drive installed in a host running
> RedHat 7.0.  The tape drive is recognized as /dev/hdd at boot.  When I
> try tar cvf /dev/hdd /opt, I see the verbose listing and a lot of disk
> activity, but nothing happens on the tape drive.
> 
> Are there any tools for troubleshooting this?  Suggestions?
> 
> --
>  - Robert Hancock [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Date: 31 Oct 2000 13:24:44 -0500
From: "Gene Heskett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: EMU APS and KDE2

Unrot13 this;
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Gene Heskett sends Greetings to nospam ;

> Gene Heskett wrote:
>> 
>> Unrot13 this;
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>> 
>> Gene Heskett sends Greetings to nospam ;
>> 
>> >  Hey, I just got the EMU APS from my brother (swapped for a SB
>> >  Live
>> > Platinum, don't ask, it was a favor) and assumed that since both
>> > were
>> > 10K1 chips, that it would work fine. Well, kernel 2.4.0-test9
>> > recognizes it just fine, but my new KDE2 build freezes halfway
>> > through. I know this is the problem as I shutdown the same KDE2
>> > and simply installed the new card. I am sure that this falls
>> > under the no one else has tried this yet category, but does
>> > anyone have anything interesting to add? I surfed DEJA looking
>> > for any interesting tidbits, but other than joining the
>> > 10K1 developer list, there weren't any real informative posts. My
>> > next two steps are to build KDE2 with debugging turned on, and to
>> > try the latest drivers from opensource.creative.com. For the
>> > second, has anyone had luck with the EMU APS and the Creative
>> > opensource stuff? It would seem to me that the kernel would
>> > reflect the latest changes, but I don't really know. Any help or
>> > thoughts would be appreciated. If not but you are interested in
>> > the solution, check out http://members.xoom.com/putzin for status
>> > sometime in November. As I figure out how to fix this, I will
>> > post the information under the linux section of that page.
>> 
>> I have an SBLive Value pack, and did run the emu10k1 driver from
>> opensource.creative.com for quite some time, but since it showed up
>> in the kernel sources at about 2.2.17, I've been using that one.
>> 
>> As far as any improvements from the creative code making it into
>> the kernel, I expect someone has to do it, so it may be that whats
>> in the kernel now was from 3 months or so back up the log on the
>> creative site. There's this tendency to not fix it if its not
>> broke, and on my machine, running a 2.2.18pre17 kernel ATM, it
>> isn't anywhere near broken.
>> 
>> At one point I had a detour built into my 'make kernel' script that
>> made the opensource stuff as part of a kernel build, and that also
>> worked quite well.  I'm still doing that to lm_sensors, its easier
>> than patching it into the kernel make tree IMO.
>> 
>> Whats the diff between an SBLive and the EMU APS?
>> 
[...]
>  Yeah, I know about the code being very good in the current crop of
> kernels. After perusing the creative lists a bit, I find that good
> stuff is happening, but that for a lot of people, the extra effort
> isn't required. Hence, the acceptability of the kernel versions of
> the driver. Your right, don't fix what really aint broke, but I
> suspect that some of the fixes will make it in by 2.5.

>  Here is what I think the diffs are between the Live and the APS. I
> know that the APS only has a single SP/DIF line out. Then, the
> inputs and outputs are significantly reduced, but split allowing for
> two outputs (stereo R and L), two inputs (stereo R and L) from the
> back of the card, and on the tray, there are two outputs (stereo R
> and L), a headphone jack, and a volume control. Actually, I think
> there are more, but I forget now cause I'm at work. So, the problem
> is that the chip, which supports a ton of output and input controls,
> is limited and that if the driver try's to enable them, it probably
> gets confused, causing problems. I don't know for sure as I don't
> have any spec docs on either card to make a good call, but the
> issues seem pretty cut and dry to me. Just a matter of finding the
> best way to fix them.

>  Another note. I did get a dump from KDE and also tried the
>  opensource
> version. Well, the opensource version killed KDE the same as the
> kernel version. As for the dump from KDE, it seems that it works
> just fine until it gets to creating the various MM pieces that work
> with the sound card. There aren't any good errors reported, but it
> starts creating things, then says that it lost it's connection to X
> and is waiting for the server to quit. That is the last line and I
> have to reboot! I am going to keep looking into this, but may need
> to find another sound card solution, or just buy a new card. Just
> thought I would add this info.

When you say 'dump' I assume you're refering to a core dump.  Not good.
Thats so far, never been a problem here, running KDE-1.1.2 and
2.2.18pre17 on a TYAN Trinity board, AMD K6-2/3DNow cpu, 128 megs of ram
and 18 gigs worth of drives.  I won't say I've never had a dump, but not
anything I could lay on KDE's doorstep.

KDE-2.x now, has been a bit spotty.  Its worked great on one machine
thats also the net server at work, and hasn't been that good on another
board just like mine.

The office machine has also managed to destroy the first partition on
two different drives, an 8 gigger, and a 45 gigger formatted to 30 gigs
in the last 2 months.  This has all the earmarks of a signed math wrap
in a driver someplace, but we haven't found it yet because we haven't
had the time, elections and all that crap.

That one is still running 2.2.14-5 and really should be brought up to at
least 2.2.17.  Maybe after Nov. 7th.  Sigh...

Cheers, Gene
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Philips webcam partially works-help!
Date: 31 Oct 2000 18:54:31 GMT

Tony Hague <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <8td6hi$gl$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Hello folks! I have struggled to get my Philips Vesta Pro webcam
>>working under Linux, and finally sent an email to the author of
>>the Linux usb driver for the cam. I thought it could be useful
>>to post it here too, in case someone can help me:

>>usbcore                30144   0  [usb-pwc-5.06-p6-up usb-uhci audio]
>>videodev                4736   1  [usb-pwc-5.06-p6-up]

> Looks to me like you are using the precompiled modules. I could never
> get them to work. The do-it-yourself option worked fine for me though.
> Well, almost fine, the camera auto exposure control doesn't work properly
> but it does capture video.

> I did something like:

> gcc -c -DMODULE -D__KERNEL__ -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer pwc-if.c
> ld -r -o pwc.o pwc-if.o pwccore.o
> insmod ./pwc.o

> Works much the same with 2.2.16 and usb backport, or 2.4.0-test8

Thank you very much! I had tried both 2.4-test6 and 2.2.16+backport,
but to no avail. When I tried the do-it-yslf pkg with 2.2.16 it worked!
(the camtest program still core dumps but camstream works)

Now all I need to do is to find a program that is better than
the ancient qseeme (0.83) and still allows me to connect to
the cuseeme chat sites (qseeme seems to dislike most remote
users mjpg streams, I get images only in a few cases), and
I need to get audio working, both the mic. and general 
listening to other chatters. (sound in general works, I can
listen to mp3:s with xmms and listen to online radio with
realaudio) And yes, I do modprobe audio and maestro (maestro is
my sound card module)

/Erik Alapää


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