Linux-Hardware Digest #947, Volume #13 Mon, 27 Nov 00 07:13:04 EST
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This place Pays out great and its FUN!!!! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
everything always unstable! ("eftech_1-=-")
Re: Serverworks ... Linux... ("D. Stimits")
Re: Best OS for 486/33 SX w/ 32meg ram? (Erling R Elvsrud)
Re: Best OS for 486/33 SX w/ 32meg ram? (Erling R Elvsrud)
double initialisation (Ignace Peeters)
ATI TV Wonder VE with Caldera 2.4 Tech. Preview (Lou Abney)
Re: Only 640x480 with Sax and Elsa Erazor II (Manfred Mehlhorn)
Re: Partition Tables (Eric)
tulip_cp gets wrong HW-address (Jochen Rodewald)
Re: Fake DVD-ROMs with mkisofs (Eric)
Re: Best OS for 486/33 SX w/ 32meg ram? (Oliver D. Bedford)
Re: Memory reported wrong by Linux (Mark Worsdall)
Re: Eicon (James Richard Tyrer)
Re: ATX PC does not shutdown (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Herv=E9?=)
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From: "eftech_1-=-" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: everything always unstable!
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 07:06:26 GMT
hi, i have an FIC SD11 motherboard with the amd 751 chipset, an athlon 700
cpu, xpert98 video card, some yamaha card that doesnt work, western digital
10g drive, and a sony 100es monitor. i have never been able to install any
stable os on this box.. the closest ive gotten is with mandrake. ive tried
windows, freeBSD, slackware, redhat7, and suse. im running mandrake7.2 right
now. it can only run for about 2 hours before the x server crashes.. now
that ive got 7.2 running it givs me a little message:
________________________________________________________________
short description
The application KDesktop (kdesktop) crashed and caused the signal 11
(SIGSEGV)
what is this?
An application mostly recieves the SIGSEGV signal due to a bug in the
application. The application was asked to dave its documents.
________________________________________________________________
even if i dont run x, linux will always crash. even when i installed redhat7
x would still crash after the same mount of time, being a few hours at the
most. is it possible that is a hardware problem? like that my video card or
motherboard is defective? also if anyone knows what log files would help
solve the problem, let me know and ill post them.
also does anyone know if theres a problem with linux and the amd750 chipset?
any help is greatly appreciated
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Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 00:06:37 -0700
From: "D. Stimits" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Serverworks ... Linux...
Cokey de Percin wrote:
>
> "D. Stimits" wrote:
> >
> > Cokey de Percin wrote:
> > >
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > >
> > > > "sebastien kozlowskyj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > >
> > > > > I want to buy SUPER 370 DL3 motherboard ...
> > > > > Does anyone already have experience with ServerWorks chipsets and Linux ?
> > > > > compatibility,installation,etc ...
> > > >
> > > > Everything I've heard is very favorable. Considerably moreso than for
> > > > the i840, which is known not to function correctly in Linux (probably
> > > > due to a new APIC which Linux doesn't yet fully support).
> > > >
> > > > If I can ever find a SW board with dual slot 1s instead of S370s, I'm
> > > > buying it.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Eric McCoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >
> > > > In one gloss of the cut interstellarly I must immovable protect the
> > > > universe.
> > >
> > > Ok, then what you want is a Tyan Thunder 2500 (S1867). Check the Tyan
> > > site, but this has a SW HE (yea, the big one) chip set with 8 DIMM,
> > > onboard LAN, 100 & 133 FSB & dual Symbios (1010) U2W 160 channels. You
> > > probably can't find one retail, but they've been on eBay several times for
> > > $250-450, picked up 4 for $280 each. Really nice board; the only down
> > > side is that is uses REGISTERED ECC memory in pairs ($$) due to 4 way
> > > memory interleave and this is a BIG board. Oh yea and 6 x 64 bit PCI slots
> > > (4x33, 2x66) and 1 ISA. I haven't installed it yet; still waiting for
> > > memory & CPUs. And one last thing - it mentions Linux in the manual as one
> > > of the certified OSs :-))
> >
> > Is the HE the one that does not support any AGP at all? Nice for
>
> The 2500 has 2x Pro AGP slot.
I wasn't sure if this was the case for all HE, I was looking at
SuperMicro HE's, which have no AGP. AGP 4x isn't all that useful yet,
although the Pro slot is very useful. Nice to know it is available.
>
> > servers. I did ask Serverworks about their WS chipset, and they said
> > manufacturers should start seeing supplies around December (which means
> > it might still be several months to see WS chipsets out). The WS
>
> Actually there are a number of SW WS boards available at this time. In
> fact, most of the SW boards are WS and not HE; the 2500 is one of the few
> HEs. I suggest you check AOpen (DX3R Plus), ASUS (CUR-DLS), SuperMicro
> (370DLE, 370DL3 & 370DE6) as well as Tyan (1867, 2567 & ?). I'm sure I
The SuperMicro 370DL3 and DLE are just LS chipset, and the DE6 is HE-LS
(not WS), and does not support all the things a true WS supports (the WS
supports 4x AGP; there may be some other minor differences). Apparently
the LS and combinations of HE-LS are out there and do a good job, but an
email from a ServerWorks rep flat out told me the WS would not be
available until December (but that was a month ago, and it is now nearly
December :) So I guess I can wait a bit longer for the true WS chipset.
> missed some, as I stopped looking when I got my 2500. When I get all the
> pieces in and get it up, I'll post.
>
> > interests me because it supports the 64 bit pci, and also 4x AGP. Trying
> > to talk to someone at Intel about the i840 problems is a waste of time
> > unless you are a registered distributor, so Intel is basically leaving
> > the serious SMP linux server market (I doubt they are even aware of the
> > problem, which seems to hurt not just linux SMP but others as well). The
> > unfortunate thing for the WS chipset is that nobody has one yet to test
> > with Linux...Serverworks is more receptive to questions than Intel, but
> > there doesn't seem to be any possibility of testing motherboards that
> > don't yet exist. The second Serverworks says their WS works with Linux,
> > my i840 goes in the trash.
> >
>
> Well, as I said, the Tyan 2500's manual specifically states that it works
> with Linux - and one of the 'certified OS releases' is RedHat 6.0/6.1,
> meaning it should work with any Linux distro. I've seen a number of posts
> in various groups about running on SW based boards. Search Deja and see
> what you come up with.
Looks like my i840 will be replaced by ServerWorks! I have to wonder if
Intel is even aware that they are about to be removed from the high end
linux server market (at least in motherboards).
>
> Best
>
> Cokey
>
> --
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> Cokey de Percin, DBA Email:
> Mynd Corp. (Soon to be CSC) Work - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Columbia, South Carolina Home - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Erling R Elvsrud)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Best OS for 486/33 SX w/ 32meg ram?
Date: 27 Nov 2000 07:38:08 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Dark Knight Radick wrote:
>shadowlord wrote:
>
[snip]
>an ISP? Or do you mean like a web page server? It's been recommended
>that I (with a 90MHz Pentium oc to 133MHz and 32MB RAM) do not try to
>set up my own computer as web server 'cause it will KILL my computer,
>literally, and I don't want that, at least not yet. ;)
Apache should run quite well on that hardware, I guess you don't have too
heavy traffic. You can try boa if apache is to demanding for that pc.
Erling
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Erling R Elvsrud)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Best OS for 486/33 SX w/ 32meg ram?
Date: 27 Nov 2000 07:38:56 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, shadowlord wrote:
[snip]
>What flavor of linux would be recommended for this type of machine?
>Simple to setup and maintain would be BIG plusses!
Debian GNU/Linux is a good choice for such hardware.
Erling
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From: Ignace Peeters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: double initialisation
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 08:06:26 +0000
Hi,
I wanted to install a Genius EasyPen tablet.
After a few hours of struggling with tablet settings, ports, versions of
xf86Summa.so and XF86Config, I got my Genius Easypen tablet to work
under
Linux Red Hat 6.1.
I am testing this starting X with startx (I am in init level 3)
The table is configured as a SummaSketch, the resolution is set to 1600
lines and the size 4 by 3. This is how my XF86Config is altered
Section "Modules"
Load xf86Summa.so
EndSection
Section "Xinput"
SubSection "SummaSketch"
Port "/dev/ttyS0"
DeviceName "tablet"
Mode absolute
Cursor Stylus
Compatible
ActiveArea 4 3
Resolution 1600
AlwaysCore
EndSubSection
EndSection
I boot Linux, init level is 5. I notice that my tablet does not work
properly, only a little portion of my screen can be reached.
Crtl+Alt+F1, learns me that my video card and tablet are initalised
twice. The video card works fine, but the second time the tablet has
been initialised, the settings were altered (different resolution and
area).
I reboot, but with init level 3. I execute "startx". The tablet works
fine.
Question: Why are the video card and tablet initialised twice, in init
level 5, and what can I do to overcome this?
Ignace
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Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 01:47:39 -0600
From: Lou Abney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ATI TV Wonder VE with Caldera 2.4 Tech. Preview
Here is the part of my /etc/modules.conf file which make my TV Wonder VE
work.
# bttv:
alias char-major-81 videodev
alias char-major-81-0 bttv
options tuner type=5
options bttv card=10
post-remove bttv modprobe -r msp3400; modprobe -r tuner
pre-install bttv modprobe -k msp3400; modprobe -k tuner
I am fuzzy on the meaning of most of this. I think it came from the
bttv
code README and one of the Linux hardware newsgroups. I messed
with the tuner type number and the bttv card number some but these
were the only ones I tried that worked. Itried various combinations
of rmmod lsmod modprobe and rebooting to try out my test versions
of /etc/modules.conf. Rebooting always works well.
My system uses the Caldera Technology Preview w/2.4 test ??
I use xawtv to use the card. I still can't get the screen capture or
record
video features of xawtv to work. If you get those working please let me
know.
I also could not get the card to work under WIN98 but since I planned to
use it under Linux I gave up on windoze.
Paul L wrote:
> I have an ATI TV Wonder VE. I just bought the card, and I have not
> gotten the TV Tuner function to work correctly in Windows 98. Is
> there software to make it work under Linux? I am running Mandrake
> 7.2. I want to see if the card itself is bad, or if the problem is
> just Windows crap. Thanks!
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Manfred Mehlhorn)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.suse
Subject: Re: Only 640x480 with Sax and Elsa Erazor II
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 07:32:17 GMT
"Tobias Dresbach" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> hat geschrieben:
>Hi all,
>i have an Elsa Erazor II connected to an 17" Highscreen MS1775P.
>Under SuSE 6.4 there was no problem to switch to 1024x786, 79kHz and 16bit
>color, but
>under SuSE 7.0 SAX2 let me only change to 640x480.
>What can i do?
Use XF86Setup instead of sucks too -eh- sax2.
Manne
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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Partition Tables
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 09:22:34 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Stu wrote:
>
> Hi. I have just upgraded my computer to a new motherboard, cpu memory - i.e.
> quite a substantial change to my system. However, I am using my existing
> harddrives.
>
> Not surprisingly, it no longer boots in linux successfully. This is okay, I
> am quite happy to reinstall my RH6.2. However, there is some data I would
> like to get hold of before I do so.
> I am trying to use PICOBOOT to access my filesystem but whenever I try and
> mount a partition I get an error. This is strange because previously I have
> managed to mount these partitions easily using the mount command supplied
> with PICOBOOT. When I do fdisk the partition tables are displayed correctly.
> I suspect that because of my new motherboard the harddrives are being set up
> slightly differently from before during the autodetection, but unfortunely I
> have no record of how they were previously set up. I've tried changing my
> BIOS to use different configurations, e.g. LBA,LARGE,Match Partition Table,
> etc, but with no success.
>
> Does anybody more experienced than me have any ideas how I can get to my old
> filesystem ?
> Have I missed anything obvious ?
I don't know PICOBOOT, but I guess it's a linux-on-floopy distro
supply the C/H/S parameters of the HDD when booting, to force the use of
teh corrcet parameters.
I cannot be sure if this will solve anything, but that's your own fault,
telling us that some command "gives errors" isn't much to work with.
Eric
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From: Jochen Rodewald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: tulip_cp gets wrong HW-address
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 09:25:46 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi,
I'm still trying to get my FPC-0103TX ethernet card running. The only
driver I found to assign memory and IRQ to the card is the tulip driver
but the card fails to work properly. Syslog reports that EEPROM is not
present; the HW-address recognized by the driver differs from the one I
find unter Windows where the card works fine. I tried several versions
from tulip_cp.c but that didn't help (latest state meanwhile kernel
2.2.17pre6 and pcmcia version 3.1.22). Anyone experienced similar probs
- may be with other dirvers or cards? Is there a way to get around this
or do I have to wait until this card can be found in the list of
supported hardware?
Many thanks in advance
Jochen
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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Fake DVD-ROMs with mkisofs
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 09:57:48 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Joseph Morris wrote:
>
> I have a Toshiba DVD-RAM drive (which only works properly in linux 2.2 since
> 2.4 is buggered, but that's another story).
>
> For archival of data that isn't going to change much, I want to create
> fake DVD-ROMs, using the type-2 carts that are removable and can be read back
> in a regular DVD-ROM drive.
>
> My initial experiments used mkisofs to generate a 2.4 gigabyte ISO image
> which had to be done under linux 2.4 for it's >2GB file ability.
> I wrote the ISO image to the disk using dd (it -seemed- to work, I think the
> crashes in 2.4 are filesystem-related rather than device-related) and I had
> a fake DVD-ROM which a friend of mine was able to read, even with his old
> DVD-ROM drive.
>
> But it isn't right. Windows 95 is destroyed if you try to read the fake disk,
Cool, another nice bug :-)
> Windows 2K can't read it at all and nor can DOS (which can read real DVD-ROMs).
>
> Any ideas what needs to be done to make the disk fully compatible?
Yeah, write it using the UDF Filesystem.
DVD's are not formatted with iso9660, but with the universal disc format
(UDF)
Unfortunately, there's only read support for UDF in linux for now.
All microsoft OS's I know off, cannot deal with a removable disc, that's
formatted with anything else than the expected FS on it. NT eg. is known
to crash om CD's with ISO9660 and rockridge extensions instead of joliet
extensions, and you now found out how win95 behaves on something out of
the ordinary.
Eric
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Oliver D. Bedford)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Best OS for 486/33 SX w/ 32meg ram?
Date: 27 Nov 2000 10:20:13 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (shadowlord) writes:
> By web terminal I mean a machine which will primarily run a web
> browser .. it will not be running services of any kind.
Any Linux distro will work. But you have to remove all
unnecessary things (daemons, Desktops etc.). Of course,
Netscape will use all the memory you have.
> (It will be using another one of my PC's on the LAN which is the
> "server" for internet access.)
A low-traffic web-server needs less computing power than Netscape.
Oliver
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From: Mark Worsdall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Memory reported wrong by Linux
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 11:27:53 +0000
In article <hW3+laO$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John Beardmore
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
>>On Thu, 09 Nov 2000 15:23:41 GMT, "ne..." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>>They have been catching too much flack lately, lets
>>>give them a break. Your solutions should work. I'm not
>>
>>They are already broken, just like Linux.
>
>It's open source. If you don't like it, why don't you fix it ?
ER, maybe he doesn't do C
By implication of your open source, you want ONLY programmers capable of
fixing bugs to use Linux?
Uhm, are you a Gates undercover man?
My BIOS reports 96Mb and kernel 2.2.12 only see's 64Mb, the append
command in lilo.conf sorted this problem for me aswell.
Though since I haven't done any C since my bust (I mean since the middle
80's) I guess I am not suppose to be using Linux.
M.
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From: James Richard Tyrer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Eicon
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 11:50:04 GMT
Sam Biebaut wrote:
>
> i've got an Eicon Diva modem card. i want it working on Linux (redhat
> oficial 6)
> i need drivers for it. could someone help me please.
http://www.o2.net/~gromitkc/20001122b.html
JRT
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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Herv=E9?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ATX PC does not shutdown
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 11:54:01 +0000
I did not find it funny but never mind... This PC is meant to be remotely
shut down.
I understand that Linux runs in some protected mode, whereas Windows runs in
real mode. BIOSes are usually working well in real mode as their developpers
test them using Windows. But some crappy BIOSes don't work well in protected
mode. Apparently this is my case. A solution is to force the APM to run in
real mode, at least when shutting down.
Does anyone know a way to do that with recompiling the kernel?
TIA.
P.S.: Eric, my BIOS allows either '4 seconds then off' or 'off' for the power
button. So I don't have to wait!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Herv� <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > I have an ATX motherboard (ECS P5VP-A+, chipset: VIA MVP3 = 82C598 +
> > 82C586B), but the halt command does not shut it down. It only prints
> > 'shuting down all md devices' then 'Power Down', but nothing happens...
> > Any way to correct that?
>
> Yes. Operate the device on your computer's case, which may be labeled
> "1/0." (The technical term for the device is "power button.")
>
> Addendum: You may have to hold it down for up to five seconds due to a
> manufacturing defect in BIOS designers' brains.
>
> --
> Eric McCoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> In one gloss of the cut interstellarly I must immovable protect the
> universe.
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