Linux-Hardware Digest #137, Volume #14            Sat, 6 Jan 01 17:13:09 EST

Contents:
  Strange keyboard issue with RH 7 on Dell Latitude (Wade C Blackwell)
  Re: Why my creative PCI 128 sound card cant work in Mandrake7.1? ("BobF")
  Re: ATI Rage Fury Pro King Size Menthol Lights ("BobF")
  Re: rt18139.c ("lobotomy")
  Re: ATI Rage Fury Pro King Size Menthol Lights
  ATA100 Drives and RH 7.0 ("Jeff Nicoll")
  Re: Q: HP 720C in Linux (Curtis Newton)
  Where does EZ-BIOS reside on disk? ("Trebor")
  Re: boot from PCI /dev/hde (quagly)
  Specs for Linux mail server (Thomas Bj�rseth)
  D-Link DU-C300 USB Webcam Problems (Stephen Newey)
  Re: Remote Kiosk Web Application Administration (Shane Phelps)
  video card trident cyberblade i7 (nv)
  video card trident cyberblade i7 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  video card trident cyblade i7 (nv)

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From: Wade C Blackwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Strange keyboard issue with RH 7 on Dell Latitude
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 18:49:24 GMT

Good morning Linux fans,
        I have a Dell latitude that works fantastically under a
vanilla 7.0 RedHat kernel save one strange keyboard issue. 
The problem is whenever I use an X app (Staroffice and
Netscape mainly) where I am entering text the curser will
randomly jump a line, a paragraph or even an entire page,
for example it just jumped into the subject line of this
netscape mail message and then again into the middle of the
text I have already typed.  Wierd I tell you.  This does not
happen when I am using vi or doing anything in an xterm, nor
does it happen when I am using ssh to xdisplay apps to a
Solaris box.  It only happens when I am local to the
laptop.  Any input would be golden, thanks!!

        Wade B
-- 
Wade Blackwell
Network Engineer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fax 206.266.2701
Desk 206.266.1103
Cell 206.321.4156
Pager 206.645.9969
Instant message csewadeb

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From: "BobF" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why my creative PCI 128 sound card cant work in Mandrake7.1?
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 18:49:38 GMT

Hey Harri,
    Take the big view.  This person can't get their sound card to work.
What level of experience does that show?
Tell them 'how' to show the 'data'.  The person probably hasn't even RTFM.
Also, take that netiquette crap and shove it up your ass.
How does that sound for American Citizen Netiquette?


So,
for the person with the problem:
Please reply to the group with the following data:
1.  Do a 'cat /dev/sndstat' and paste results here.
2.  Did you RTFM?
3.  Sometimes compiling the sound into the kernal works better than using
modules.

--
//signed//
Bob Fahey
Famous Quote by daughter Elizabeth Margaret:
"If I was them cows, I'd run away!"
"Harri Haataja" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >It seems all is good , es1371 module is load when system booting.
> >But the sound card cant work .
>
> That's not a very good problem description.
> There's so many ways in which a sound card can "not work". Please,
> be more specific and repeat the data in the subject in the body.
> (Have you read the newuser groups? netiquette?)
>
> But anyway, have you adjusted the mixer? It may be set low or muted.
> Have you confirmed that the device (speaker, amp, phones..) it is
> connected to works, ie can utput the sounds you play?
> Is the 1371 card actually found? There are many types of sb pci cards.



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From: "BobF" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ATI Rage Fury Pro King Size Menthol Lights
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 19:02:43 GMT

The ATI Rage Fury Maxx, (64mb, dual Rage 128 Pro chips), does NOT, although
marketed and printed right on the box, DOES NOT SUPPORT AGP4x.

(Just in case you have this card and don't know it).


--
//signed//
Bob Fahey
Famous Quote by daughter Elizabeth Margaret:
"If I was them cows, I'd run away!"
"Charles W. Shepherd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> According to the XFree site, the r128 driver supports all Rage 128-based
> cards, including something
> called the "Rage Fury".  However, according to the ATI site, and my
> trusted local distributor, *there is
> no such card*.
>
> The 32MB Rage 128 card is called the XPERT 2000.  However, this card
> only supports 2x AGP, and I'd
> like 4x.  The 32MB, 4x ATI card is the Rage Fury Pro.  This isn't a Rage
> 128 card, but a Rage 128 Pro
> card - it's a different chip.
>
> So, my question: does the r128 driver support the 128 Pro chip, in
> addition to the 128 chip?
>
> BTW, does anyone else find the ATI naming system to be rage- and
> fury-inducing?  Could they make
> it any more opaque?  I'm having visions of Vikings (spam, spam, eggs and
> spam).
>
> --Chuck
>
>



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From: "lobotomy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: rt18139.c
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 19:43:41 GMT

You should try typing './trans' (when in the directory).  When you just
type 'trans', even if you are in /temp, it just trys to find it in your
path and run it.  temp isn't probably in your path (nor should it be), so
this isn't working. ./ just indicates that the program you are running is
in the directory '.', which represents the directory you are in (temp).  

In article <9374a1$h5u$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Questions: a) i've done step 1 & 2, when it comes to step number 3 -- 
> /temp/trans  --
> - i got unsure cos after i key in
> as root: cd /temp trans it display "bad command or file name" -- kindly
> advise which command code i should enter to execute "trans"??? pls help
> so that the .c file could be compiled successfully. :-D
> 
> b)  and what is "chmod 777" actually??
> 
> pls help.......tx in advance.
> 
> chilli  ???????????


-- 
PC Chips actually goes by many names. PCChips = Ability = Alton = Amptron = 
Aristo = Asia Gate = Asiatech = Assa = Atrend = Elpina = Eurone = Fugu = 
Fugutech = Hi Sing = Houston = Hsing Tech = H Tech = Matsonic = Minstaple = 
PCWare = Pine = Protac = QDI = Warpspeed

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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ATI Rage Fury Pro King Size Menthol Lights
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 20:35:03 GMT

Charles W. Shepherd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> According to the XFree site, the r128 driver supports all Rage 128-based
> cards, including something
> called the "Rage Fury".  However, according to the ATI site, and my
> trusted local distributor, *there is
> no such card*.

   There may not currently be a rage fury but that doesn't mean it doesn't
exist. The Rage Fury is the first rage 128 based card. Or at least one of
the first. It was released at the same time the 16meg card was released.




> BTW, does anyone else find the ATI naming system to be rage- and
> fury-inducing?  Could they make
> it any more opaque?  I'm having visions of Vikings (spam, spam, eggs and
> spam).

  Oh that's nothing. They have rage,rage II and likely more then you and I
could shake a stick at-)

Nick



-- 
=============================
Florida? Is that near the 
Bermuda triangle?
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From: "Jeff Nicoll" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ATA100 Drives and RH 7.0
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 20:45:07 GMT

I was wondering if there are any problems with installing Red Hat 7.0 on a
machine that has ATA100 hard drives.  The motherboard is an Asus A7V?

Thanks



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From: Curtis Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,alt.os.linux.suse
Subject: Re: Q: HP 720C in Linux
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 13:53:04 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Sun, 07 Jan 2001 03:45:24 +1100, root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>Hi
>
>I am running SuSE Linux 7 and I have an HP Deskjet 720C. Can anyone give
>me some guidance as to how I might get this to work?
>
>Thanks
>tigs
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]


http://sourceforge.net/projects/pnm2ppa/
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--
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Curtis Newton
cnewton<remove-me>@akamail.com
http://mypage.org/cnewton
===================================

Due to USENET spamming, I had to modify
my reply to email address.

Please delete  "remove-me"  to reply.

By US Code Title 47, Sec.227(a)(2)(B), a computer/modem/printer meets
the definition of a telephone fax machine.  By Sec.227(b)(1)(C), it is 
unlawful to send any unsolicited advertisement to such equipment.  By 
Sec.227(b)(3)(C), a violation of the aforementioned Section is 
punishable by action to recover actual monetary loss, or $500, whichever
is greater, for each violation.

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From: "Trebor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Where does EZ-BIOS reside on disk?
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 20:58:44 GMT

Where do programs like EZ-BIOS and MaxBlast reside on a hard disk? Is it in
the master boot record, as part of the master boot code? Or, does it reside
in the volume boot code of the active partition?

Anybody know of a site that describes how these programs work (I've already
visited Maxtor's customer support web site, which gives some superficial
info .. I'm curious how these things really work, beyond the basics)

In particular, I'd like to understand how I can make an old drive that uses
EZ-BIOS as a secondary drive in linux. Am I faced with having to backup,
re-partition, re-format and restore the disk? Or, can I get away with
something simpler, like just replacing the MBR? (wishful thinking)

Thanks,
-Bob
 Andover, MA



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From: quagly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: boot from PCI /dev/hde
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 21:11:22 GMT

quagly wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> I would like to boot from my new drive,
> quantum fireball \
> Promise UDMA 66  \
> Kernel 2.4.0-test12
> Lilo    21.4.4-10
> 
> I belive my bios may allow this, since there is an option to boot from
> off board controllers.
> 
> I cannot get lilo to start.  At first I only got "LI" at boot.  then
> hang.
> 
> Then I added
> disk=/dev/hde
>         bios = 0x80
> to lilo
> 
> Now I get "LIL-" then hang.
> 
> I can't get to a lilo prompt.  I tried adding
> append="ide2=0x10c0,0x10016" but I don't think lilo is getting that far.
> 
> I am testing to see if I can boot before I migrate my linux system to
> the new drive.
> 
Additional information
        
        Since bios does not allow me to either set up /dev/hde for auto detect
or allow my to supply the geometry I tried adding

disk=/dev/hde
         bios = 0x80
         sectors=63
         heads=16
         cylinders=39813

with the same result "LIL-"




> Here is my lilo.conf as it stand.  I have tried many variations.
> -----------
> disk=/dev/hde
>         bios = 0x80
> 
> boot=/dev/hde
> install=/boot/boot.b
> map=/boot/map
> compact
> prompt
> timeout=50
> image=/boot/bzImage2.4.0
>         label=linux
>         append="ide2=0x10c0,0x10016"
>         root=/dev/hda11
>         read-only
> other=/dev/hda
> ------------
> 
> Other than booting the drive is fine.
>         Thanks,
>                         quagly

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From: Thomas Bj�rseth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Specs for Linux mail server
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 22:27:08 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi.

We are considering Linux as the basis for our student mailserver. At
present we have 50000 accounts, and this is expected to increase with
10-12 000 during 2001. Maybe 10-15 000 of the mail accounts will be
active (SMTP and POP/IMAP). while the rest are "sleeping". All the
users are created as users on the server, but with /bin/false as their
login shell as we do not want them to log in to the server. We will
start to remove the oldest users as the new ones are registered, but
this will not happen right away (maybe the second half of 2001).

We will install a webmail interface (NeoMail/IMP/other) in addition to
the POP/IMAP daemons, but can't really say anything in regard to how
many will use the web interface or a mail client to access their mail
accounts.

We are looking for suggestions as to what kind of hard- and software
we need to support this solution. As a start, we will install this on
a dual PIII-800 with 1 GB ram and 100 GB of disk available for the
mail accounts (home and spool). More disk will be added during this
spring/summer. Will this be sufficient, or should we look for an even
more powerful server? Clustering is an option which can be implemented
during the summer of 2001.

All comments for server specs and/or own experiences from similar
environments are welcome.

Thanks in advance!

Thomas B
-- 
Thomas Bjorseth, Computer consultant
Norwegian School of Management
Web: http://www.bi.edu

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From: Stephen Newey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: D-Link DU-C300 USB Webcam Problems
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 21:27:56 +0000

Hi there,

I've just bought the above mention camera, assuming it was basically a
DSB-C300 (which is not actually mentioned on the D-Link websites).
However, it doesn't wanna work, I'm running Mandrake 7.2, Kernel 2.2.18
(tried in 2.4.0test12 too), K7/900Mhz on an Gigabyte motherboard, here's
what I get in /var/log/messages....

Jan  4 19:15:14 voyager kernel: usb.c: USB new device connect, assigned
device number 2
Jan  4 19:15:14 voyager kernel: usb-uhci-debug.h:   TD @
c4a20040/04A20040, MaxLen=07 DT0 EP=0 Dev=0 PID=(SETUP) buf=013a0de0
Jan  4 19:15:14 voyager kernel: usb-uhci-debug.h:     Len=07 e0 Stalled
CRC/Timeo
Jan  4 19:15:14 voyager kernel: usb-uhci-debug.h:     Link points to TD
@ 04a20080, Breadth first
Jan  4 19:15:14 voyager kernel: usb.c: USB device not accepting new
address (error=-110)
Jan  4 19:15:26 voyager kernel: usb.c: USB disconnect on device -1
Jan  4 19:15:29 voyager kernel: usb.c: USB new device connect, assigned
device number 2
Jan  4 19:15:29 voyager kernel: usb-uhci-debug.h:   TD @
cede2fa0/0EDE2FA0, MaxLen=07 DT0 EP=0 Dev=0 PID=(SETUP) buf=013a0620
Jan  4 19:15:29 voyager kernel: usb-uhci-debug.h:     Len=07 e0 Stalled
CRC/Timeo
Jan  4 19:15:29 voyager kernel: usb-uhci-debug.h:     Link points to TD
@ 0ede2f60, Breadth first
Jan  4 19:15:29 voyager kernel: usb.c: USB device not accepting new
address (error=-110)
Jan  4 19:15:48 voyager kernel: usb.c: USB disconnect on device -1
Jan  4 19:15:55 voyager kernel: usb.c: USB new device connect, assigned
device number 2
Jan  4 19:15:55 voyager kernel: usb-uhci-debug.h:   TD @
c4a20080/04A20080, MaxLen=07 DT0 EP=0 Dev=0 PID=(SETUP) buf=013a0a60
Jan  4 19:15:55 voyager kernel: usb-uhci-debug.h:     Len=07 e0 Stalled
CRC/Timeo
Jan  4 19:15:55 voyager kernel: usb-uhci-debug.h:     Link points to TD
@ 04a20040, Breadth first
Jan  4 19:15:55 voyager kernel: usb.c: USB device not accepting new
address (error=-110)
Jan  4 19:16:30 voyager kernel: usb.c: USB disconnect on device -1 

Any clue as to what's up/what I can do to sort it?

Cheers,
Stephen.

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From: Shane Phelps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.security,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.development.systems
Subject: Re: Remote Kiosk Web Application Administration
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 08:43:00 +1100

Hmmmm, free consulting :-)
Isn't the money in Open Source supposed to come from consulting services?

Well, here goes. Remember, free advice is worth what you pay for it..


Knowledge Seeker wrote:
> 
> Need help with a new assignment.  Company wants to distribute systems
> (kiosk-like) to about 10,000 locations throughout the US.  These

I can't get over the *scale* of some of the US deployments. AWESOME!!

> systems would include a printer as well as the CPU and monitor.  The
> systems would allow semi-captive audience customers to retrieve static
> pages as well as video/audio stored locally (application is therefore
> a fat client) of content pertinent to the customer interest (via a
> nice easy to use menu).  (Probably similar to systems available at
> many public libraries but specific content would also be different
> from libraries).  In addition we want the kiosks to allow customers to
> retrieve content not stored locally via the Internet.  So the kiosks
> need a (probably broadband?) connection to the net.
> 
> What issues should we expect to encounter??  What solutions exist to
> those issues??
> 
> 1. Permission for the placement of the kiosk is not a problem nor is
> physical security at the sites.
> 2. What about electronic security??

        I assume you're not worried about EMF from atmospheric H-bombs,
        so you should just need a decent UPS (say 20 min standby) and a 
        line filter for the 'net conection.

> 3. Generation of pertinent content is not a problem but surely there
> are issues surrounding delivery of said content (i.e. update of 10,000
> remote locations)??  Content might change each week.  What are
> practical alternatives??

        a. Squid with a *big* cache
        b. rsync, cvsup or sup (remote upgrade packages). Set the client
        boxes to try to pick up changes every couple of hours overnight.
        For that scale, you'd need to run a farm of servers which all sync
        themselves to a master. The number of servers will depend very
        heavily on the number of files and the amount of data to transfer.
        
> 4. What are the communications issues??  How to solve them??

        Depends on how much you want to spend. Small routers are cheap
        and nearly bulletproof. Run a cat-5 crossover between the client
        and the router, and let the router do all the comms work.
        You might have a bit of fun seting up the routing, though.

> 5. What are the hardware failure issues??  How to solve them??

        Keep the number of boxes down and buy quality hardware. Run
        monitoring software and / or have somebody on-site contact
        your help desk if something falls over. You *could* cluster
        at each of your kiosks, but this is generally not cost-effective.
        Sign a maintenance contract with a *big* organisation (Getronics,
        Unisys, etc) for hardware swapout in the event of failure.
        Price goes up as response time goes down!

> 6. What are the application software upgrade issues??  How to solve
> them??

        See 3.

> 7. Hardware is intel based.  Would Linux or NT/W2000 be the better
> operating system for this kind of application??

        Has this been definitely decided? I would seriously consider
        Sun's Ultra5. You'll get a *great* deal on that quantity, and
        they're a very robust box.
        If it's definitely Intel, Linux / *BSD is more robust than W2K. 
        OS selection boils down to how well the application runs on the
        platform.

> 8. If the operating system has a problem, how do we fix and reboot??

        Linux / *BSD shouldn't cause any problems, but the WM may be
        less stable. You could kill the WM weekly on a cron job if
        necessary. Absolutely, definitely, positively run sshd on the
        clients - compile with tcp wrappers, use a minimal /etc/hosts with
        at least your critical central hosts (avoid using DNS if possible)
        and trust at least 1 of your central hosts.

        NT is nowhere near as stable as Linux / *BSD, so look at automating
        a reboot at least weekly (possibley nightly). W2K is supposed to
        be much more stable than NT but I only have limited experience
        with W2K. Use ssh with NT as well, but NT's remote admin is more
        limited.
        
> 9. Since most of the content is static there does not seem to be a big
> need for a big DB (at least for content).  However, we do want to
> capture customer demographics and store them in a DB at a central
> host.  Which DB??  And do all 10,000 kiosks "phone home" each night to
> deliver data or does the host initiate a contact to each remote
> station each night to pull data??

        Depends what's at the back end. I assume you're using a big Sun
        or HP or IBM box, but that's just a guess. Oracle is very capable
        and runs on virtually everything, but it's not cheap. Sybase is
        in the same league. PostgreSQL is quite good, but not really in
        the same league. I've been at a mostly Oracle site for ages, so
        I'm out of touch on the RDBMS front.
        My preference is always for the central site to initiate data
        pickup, using ssh/scp. Given the sheer volume, you should look
        at using your upgrade distribution boxes to do the pickups.
        The distribution boxes could update the DB directly, or for the
        really paranoid you could get the central DB server to pick up
        from the distribution boxes.
> 
> Other issues??
> 

        Seriously consider using touch screens. It makes it much harder
        for the customers to cause any problems :-)



> --
> eCommerce Knowledge Seeker

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From: nv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: video card trident cyberblade i7
Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 15:51:44 +0100

Hello everybody,
I'd like to know if the video card trident cyberblade i7 is actually 
supported by linux ? will (or is) the 3D hardware acceleration be supprted 
by XFree86 ? Is there an @ where where I can see performances ?
Thanks in advance for your responses.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: video card trident cyberblade i7
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 16:21:38 +0100

Hello everybody,
I'd like to know if the video card trident cyberblade is actually
supported by linux ? Will (or is) the 3D hardware acceleration be
supported by XFree86 ? IS there an @ where I can see performances ?
Thanks in advance for your responses.

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From: nv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: video card trident cyblade i7
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 16:33:22 +0100

Hello everybody,
I'd like to know if the video card trident cyberblade i7 is actually
supported by linux ? Will (or is) the 3D acceleration hardware be one
day supported by XFree86 ? Is there an adress where I can read
performances ?
Thanks in advance for your response.

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