Linux-Hardware Digest #181, Volume #14           Mon, 15 Jan 01 10:13:06 EST

Contents:
  Re: S3trio3d in text mode (Andras)
  Re: Strange alpha clock issue (Chris Elvidge)
  Linux on Sparc foolishness (devin-wala)
  Re: HP ScanJet 2100C on Redhat 6.1 (2.2.16 Kernel) (Harri Haataja)
  Re: Video4Linux Not Working (Glenn)
  Slooow Linux ("q")
  Re: RH 7 doesn't work with 3C905? (Harri Haataja)
  Sound playing with i810 (Pierre Loic Herve)
  Re: New System: does this hardware look OK? (Harri Haataja)
  Re: Linux on Sparc foolishness (Harri Haataja)
  Re: SB16 problems ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Is Promise Ultra ATA100 controller supported? (Timo Warns)
  Re: Strange alpha clock issue (Serguei Patchkovskii)
  TV-out with ATI EGA Wonder & Mandrake (Philip Jessup)

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From: Andras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: S3trio3d in text mode
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 11:34:45 +0000

Dances With Crows wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 12 Jan 2001 13:50:07 +0000, Andras staggered into the Black Sun
> and said:
> >I have the S3 Trio 3d 4MB AGP card, and my linux crashes all the time
> >when I view a text file with less on a text terminal and try to scroll
> >upwards. After a few lines of scrolling it always crashes, and the only
> >solution is to press the reset button, nothing else works.
> >I tried the same setup with an old ISA video card and I didn't have this
> >problem.
> >Do you have any clues who might be responsible for it?
> >Trio 3d? Linux? Motherboard? Bios setup?
> 
> It's most likely an interaction between the card itself and X or the
> accelerated console modes.  Which version of Xfree86 are you running?

I tried 3.3.6, but no success.
Actually first I'd like to have a stable text console operation before I
start configureing X.


> ("X --version" will tell you.)  Are you using the VESA framebuffer
> option for text consoles?  (If you see a penguin logo when you boot up,
> you are.)
Not yet, but I'll try.

thanks for your help
Andras

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From: Chris Elvidge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.alpha
Subject: Re: Strange alpha clock issue
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 16:02:15 +0400

Michal Jaegermann wrote:
> 
> In comp.os.linux.alpha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> : I've just become aware that since I "upgraded" my Alpha Linux boxes
> : to RedHat 6.2 none of them maintain the correct time from one boot to
> : the next.  I have a mixture of 366XL,433a,500a machines.  This wasn't
> : a problem under 6.1.  So I've simply decided that this is a 6.2 bug
> 
> This "6.2 bug" did not show up on numerous machines with 6.2, or pretty
> close, installations which I have seen. True, none of these was of the
> type listed above but they were quite diverse - both booting from SRM
> and from MILO.
> 
> Saying that there is a bug in /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit where a code tries to
> guess if SRM or ARC clock should be used, without paying any attention
> what was set /etc/sysconfig/clock, and it screws up badly on some
> platforms.  On UX, for example, you will find that you are running 20
> years late.  The problem is that, IIRC, these broken three lines
> (comment them out!) showed up in RH 7 and not in 6.2.
> 
> Even if I do not remember details correctly the best policy with
> hwclock, as that one in 6.2 and above, is NOT to pass to it any
> flags forcing a particular hardware clock mode.  In reality there
> is more than two types and hwclock left alone is pretty good in guessing
> which one should be used.  If your hardware is not covered then fix
> hwclock sources and send your patches to hwclock maintaner ([EMAIL PROTECTED]).
> 
>   Michal

Why does the time on the hardware clock matter? I use (admittedly intel)
ntpdate to set the clock at boot, and ntpd to keep it synced when
running. Would this help? (www.ntp.org AFAIR)

Chris

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From: devin-wala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux on Sparc foolishness
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 12:13:01 GMT

Hi,

I just purchased a very old Sparcstation 2 running Linux without really 
knowing what I was getting myself into.  It was purchased in hopes of 
using it as a local dedicated DNS server.

The only minor little problem is that it does not currently have any way 
of doing any networking.  Is there any way to add a network card or 
other option that is supported by Linux?

Anybody got one of these things successfully running in this fashion?

Thanks for you help,
-Devin




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Harri Haataja)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: HP ScanJet 2100C on Redhat 6.1 (2.2.16 Kernel)
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 13:14:24 GMT

Or the later 2.2 kernels, ie RH7 and update ones.
The key issue is wheather the one is supported by SANE (or pint?)
http://mostang.com/sane  and follow the links to upported and there
the usb list.

E J wrote:
>A good start would be get 2.4.x kernel.  It has full USB support.
>
>Shyam Govardhan wrote:
>>
>> Could someone please let me know if someone has gotten HP ScanJet 2100C Scanner 
>(USB) to work
>>
>> on Redhat 6.1 (2.2.16 Kernel).

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From: Glenn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Video4Linux Not Working
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 13:20:58 GMT


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You might find some explicit help at
http://www.metzlerbros.de/bttv.html
and they've got links to other linux-video stuff.

Perhaps local capture more error-informative than apache?
Is that old as in cheap?  Can I get one too?

Glenn



William Fong wrote:

> Trying to get an old Bt848 video capture card to work for a Web cam setup.
> I compiled Video4Linux into the kernel (tried both 2.2.18 and 2.4.0) and it
> doesn't work.  Apache gives an error (Apache module)
>
> [Sat Jan 13 22:53:17 2001] [error] (21)Is a directory: Failed to open video
> device
>
> This happens with both kernels.  When I boot with the 2.2.18 kernel, it
> finds the card (displays some information about it), but it does not make
> /dev/video.  When booting with 2.4.0, I don't see anything that resembles
> the card, but I have a /proc/video/dev.  I tried to symlink /proc/video and
> /proc/video/dev to /dev/video, but that didn't work.
>
> Maybe I'm doing something wrong or left something out?  I'm not too
> experienced with Linux; I know enough to get into trouble... :)
>
> Thank you!
>
> -william
>
> --
>
> ______________________________
> William Fong - www.digitaldev.com

--

Glenn Wittrock

Linux: when you need to run like a greased weasel.



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You might find some explicit help at
<br><A 
HREF="http://www.metzlerbros.de/bttv.html">http://www.metzlerbros.de/bttv.html</A>
<br>and they've got links to other linux-video stuff.
<p>Perhaps local capture more error-informative than apache?
<br>Is that old as in cheap?&nbsp; Can I get one too?
<p>Glenn
<br>&nbsp;
<br>&nbsp;
<p>William Fong wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>Trying to get an old Bt848 video capture card to
work for a Web cam setup.
<br>I compiled Video4Linux into the kernel (tried both 2.2.18 and 2.4.0)
and it
<br>doesn't work.&nbsp; Apache gives an error (Apache module)
<p>[Sat Jan 13 22:53:17 2001] [error] (21)Is a directory: Failed to open
video
<br>device
<p>This happens with both kernels.&nbsp; When I boot with the 2.2.18 kernel,
it
<br>finds the card (displays some information about it), but it does not
make
<br>/dev/video.&nbsp; When booting with 2.4.0, I don't see anything that
resembles
<br>the card, but I have a /proc/video/dev.&nbsp; I tried to symlink /proc/video
and
<br>/proc/video/dev to /dev/video, but that didn't work.
<p>Maybe I'm doing something wrong or left something out?&nbsp; I'm not
too
<br>experienced with Linux; I know enough to get into trouble... :)
<p>Thank you!
<p>-william
<p>--
<p>______________________________
<br>William Fong - www.digitaldev.com</blockquote>

<pre>--&nbsp;

Glenn Wittrock

Linux: when you need to run like a greased weasel.</pre>
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From: "q" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Slooow Linux
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 22:28:20 +0900

Greetings,

 System:
AMD Athlon 700 / 256mb sdram pc100
Kernel 2.2.16 / XFree86 3.3.36
ATI AIW 16mb PCI video
Kondara Linux Distro'
AMD Chipset on a gigabyte Mainboard

 Problem:
Apps and GUI seem to run fine, [tho' KDE is a bit sluggish], but when I run
a game such as Quake 3 or Heavy Gear II it is so incredibly slow,
it's like watching a slideshow of Great-Great-Grandchildren at a retirement
home, while overdosing on depressants!  But the screen resolution is
amazing! [dunno]

What I have done:
1. Recompiled kernel to optimised i6x86 architecture, leaving out the mods
and services I do not need such as radio support, PCMCIA etc.
2. Run SysVinit to disable those [again] services I do not use, but
retaining those which 'serve' the system.
3. Made sure to append="mem=255m" in Lilo.conf and running .../sbin/lilo
255 vice 256m to avoid any conflicts
4. Threatened the machine with a big glass of water.

Any help would be greatly appreciated and reciprocated with knowledge, apps,
worship etc.

Thanks

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
or
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

p.s., I can also be found at yahoo's linux chat rooms most days.






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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Harri Haataja)
Subject: Re: RH 7 doesn't work with 3C905?
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 13:24:05 GMT

Allen Mcintosh wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>Vidar Skjelanger  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Is my NIC not a 3c905C afterall?
>
>Yours and about a dozen on machines I use :-)
>
>Seriously though, I've had no problem with fairly off-the-shelf versions
>of 2.2.14, 2.2.17 and 2.2.18.

Only thing is a lot of people try 3c905.o which doesn't exist when they should
look around and find out it's 3c59x.o instead.


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From: Pierre Loic Herve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Sound playing with i810
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 13:27:56 GMT

Hi all,

I have a NEC PowerMate ES.
I believe sound support is provided by i810...
I am running a Debian 2.2.17

1 ---
/etc/modules is :
ntfs
smbfs
dummy
olympic
agpgart
3c59x
soundcore
soundlow
sound
ac97_codec
i810_audio

2 ---
cat /proc/pci has on line :
 Bus  0, device  31, function  5:
    Multimedia audio controller: Intel Unknown device (rev 2).
      Vendor id=8086. Device id=2415.
      Medium devsel.  Fast back-to-back capable.  IRQ 11.  Master
Capable.  No bursts.  
      I/O at 0xdc00 [0xdc01].
      I/O at 0xd800 [0xd801].

3 ---
cat /dev/sndstat is :
OSS/Free:3.8s2++-971130
Load type: Driver loaded as a module
Kernel: Linux c3426 2.2.17 #1 Sun Jun 25 09:24:41 EST 2000 i686
Config options: 0

Installed drivers: 

Card config: 

Audio devices:

Synth devices:

Midi devices:

Timers:
0: System clock

Mixers:

4 ---
/var/log/messages has some line :

Jan 15 13:41:20 c3426 kernel: cat uses obsolete /proc/pci interface
Jan 15 13:49:14 c3426 kernel: Intel 810 + AC97 Audio, version 0.02,
09:54:05 Jun 25 2000
Jan 15 13:49:14 c3426 kernel: PCI: Increasing latency timer of device
00:fd to 64
Jan 15 13:49:14 c3426 kernel: i810: Intel ICH 82801AA found at IO 0xd800
and 0xdc00, IRQ 11
Jan 15 13:49:14 c3426 kernel: ac97_codec: AC97 Audio codec, vendor id1:
0x8384, id2: 0x7600 (SigmaTel STAC????)
Jan 15 13:49:14 c3426 kernel: i810_audio: only 48Khz playback available.
Jan 15 13:49:14 c3426 kernel: i810_audio: Found 1 audio device(s).
Jan 15 13:54:01 c3426 kernel: Intel 810 + AC97 Audio, version 0.02,
09:54:05 Jun 25 2000
Jan 15 13:54:01 c3426 kernel: PCI: Increasing latency timer of device
00:fd to 64
Jan 15 13:54:01 c3426 kernel: i810: Intel ICH 82801AA found at IO 0xd800
and 0xdc00, IRQ 11
Jan 15 13:54:01 c3426 kernel: ac97_codec: AC97 Audio codec, vendor id1:
0x8384, id2: 0x7600 (SigmaTel STAC????)
Jan 15 13:54:01 c3426 kernel: i810_audio: only 48Khz playback available.
Jan 15 13:54:01 c3426 kernel: i810_audio: Found 1 audio device(s).


5 ---
but when i go 
cat spacemusic > /dev/audio
i have no error and no sound...


Any help is welcome...

-- 
Pierre.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Harri Haataja)
Subject: Re: New System: does this hardware look OK?
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 13:30:28 GMT

Russell de Grove wrote:

>AMD K-7 1000 "Thunderbird"
np

>"Gigabyte" MB
?

>256 MB 133Mhz SDRAM
np

>2 KTI 10/100 PCI NICs (no, I don't know which model)
You should.  Why 2?

>WD 20 GB Hard Drive
UDMA? Find out what chipset on the controller.

>ACER 50X CDROM
np

>Iomega ZIP 250 (I assume ATAPI...)
np

>Mitsumi floppy
You expect that to make a difference? =)

>Creative Labs AWE 128 PCI
np (A few tricks, though)

>3dfx Voodoo3 3000 PCI
With pci, you'll miss DRI. I think you will have glide, though.

>I'm planning to install Redhat7.
Fine.

>FAQ seems to indicate installation is difficult, although the KTI site
>claims that all three models work with linux - and the sound card, which
>from skimming this newsgroup seems like it gives a lot of people trouble.

If the vendor says it's supported maybe they carry drivers or instructions?

>Also, is there anything odd I need to do if I decide to get a bigger hard
>drive, say 40Gb+?

I don't think that's a problem.

Looks like a nice system and should work although there might be
some features (DRI, UDMA..) that might not work perfect or out
of the box.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Harri Haataja)
Subject: Re: Linux on Sparc foolishness
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 13:31:53 GMT

devin-wala wrote:
>I just purchased a very old Sparcstation 2 running Linux without really 
>knowing what I was getting myself into.  It was purchased in hopes of 
>using it as a local dedicated DNS server.

Sounds fine.

>The only minor little problem is that it does not currently have any way 
>of doing any networking.  Is there any way to add a network card or 
>other option that is supported by Linux?

A sparc without a network sounds impossible.
Do you mean that it's just unconfigured or unsupported?
I would guess there should be a Lance onboard.

>Anybody got one of these things successfully running in this fashion?

I had SS1+ running Linux long ago. Now it runs NetBSD for a change.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: SB16 problems
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 13:44:11 GMT

Hi Matt,

I had the exact same problem about a month ago with a SB16.  In my case
it was an interrupt conflict.  You might cat /proc/interrupts and check
to see if something else is already using IRQ5 if your haven't already
done so.  BTW: if you've long since lost the manual on the SB (like I
did), Creative really is very good about keeping documentation on these
old things around on their website.

Cheers,
-Devin

In article <93q3hs$1g2$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  "Matt Ng" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> This is one of those strange problems that I cannot figure out. I have a
> SB16 ISA, non-PnP that was working on one computer (P233, running RH6.1
> with the upgraded kernel 2.2.16-3), and I decided to move it to a similar
> computer (P133, same linux installation) and I cannot get it to work at
> all. Oddly, kudzu didn't seem to detect it, and on start up I do get some
> error regarding "can't find module midi", but since it's a stock RH
> install with no custom compiled kernel (like on my other computer), I'm
> not sure what is wrong. I do get error messages about "No such device" for
> /dev/audio and /dev/dsp, so I can't figure out what exactly I've
> configured wrong, or if I'm missing some package or file (since the list
> of modules and libraries in both computers is the same, I don't think
> that should be the problem). sndconfig doesn't help because it ends with
> the "Can't open /dev/audio" and isapnp doesn't help either.
> I used a DOS disk to check out if it was a hardware problem, but the card
> was working fine under dos, and PnP on the MB is disabled.
> If it helps any, here's the relevent entry in my conf.modules
>
> alias sound sb
> pre-install sound /sbin/insmod sound dmabuf=1
> alias midi opl3
> options opl3 io=0x388
> options sb io=0x220 irq=5 dma=1 dma16=5 mpu_io=0x330
>
> Thanks for any help. BTW I have looked at the HOWTOs, which don't really
> help in this situation.
>


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Timo Warns)
Subject: Re: Is Promise Ultra ATA100 controller supported?
Date: 15 Jan 2001 13:43:50 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Frederik Himpe wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "alex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > I have Promise Ultra100 standalone (not onboard) ATA100 controller with
> > 45 GB IBM DTLA hard disk.
> > 
> > Goal: want to make linux install and boot from that configuration.
> > 
> > Question: if it's supported at all and if yes how to install linux with
> > it? I tried RH7.0 - install script assumed there's no hdd at all :0/
> I have exactly the same controller and hard disk and it works with
> Mandrake 7.2 out of the box for me.
> 
> On this page you find a workaround if your controller is not recognised
> automatically, it is specifically written for Mandrake, but I guess it
> should be possible to use this trick with other distributions:
> http://www.mandrakeuser.org/hardware/hbits5.html
> 

I've done this and it worked fine. But I'm not able to enable DMA access at
Maxtor 51536H2. "hdparm -d1 /dev/hda" refuses to enable DMA. Has anyone a
solution for this?

Timo

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Serguei Patchkovskii)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.alpha
Subject: Re: Strange alpha clock issue
Date: 15 Jan 2001 13:41:05 GMT

Chris Elvidge ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Why does the time on the hardware clock matter? 

Well, not all systems are (or should be) on the Internet; even
those systems might, occationally, find having the correct time
after reboot moderately important :-)

/Serge.P

---
Home page: http://www.cobalt.chem.ucalgary.ca/ps/

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From: Philip Jessup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: TV-out with ATI EGA Wonder & Mandrake
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 14:53:57 GMT

I have assembled some old parts to create a linux box (running Mandrake
7.0) that plays mp3's through my home stereo. It is networked and I can
control it through any of the other boxes in the house but I would like
it to work in a more stand-alone fashion. Since my TV is right beside
the stereo, I figured that this would be fine as a monitor. I just want
a command line, I don't need X. I picked up an old ATI EGA Wonder video
card the other day which has a composite output (RCA plug). When I feed
this into my TV (through the video in on the VCR) I get a readable
display but the problem I'm having is that once the screen fills up with
text, it doesn't scroll off the screen properly. I am only able to get
one screen of text, new stuff doesn't appear.

If I boot from a DOS floppy everything works properly, old text leaving
at the top of the screen, new text at the bottom, so I don't think it is
a hardware problem. My best guess is that Mandrake is somehow assuming a
VGA or better display but I have searched everywhere and I can't figure
out how to tell it I just want CGA with 25 lines of text per screen.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. I can make the thing work fine by
ALT -F*ing and repeatedly logging into a new console but this is
annoying and my wife needs something a little more user friendly.

Stuart Baird


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