Linux-Hardware Digest #219, Volume #14 Sun, 21 Jan 01 21:13:07 EST
Contents:
Re: modem drivers ("DjM")
Re: Can anyone pleaseeeeee help me.... (Michael V. Ferranti)
Re: Please tell me your motherboard name if it works properly in Linux ("Erik
Funkenbusch")
Re: It's racism to hate Microsoft with fraudulent and inflammatory argument ("DjM")
Re: Please tell me your motherboard name if it works properly in Linux (J Sloan)
Re: My Modem :( ("DjM")
Re: problems accessing "X" ("DjM")
Re: Can anyone pleaseeeeee help me.... ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: To Linux Nazi ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: PCI IDE Controller card (Keith + Maria Wheeler)
Re: PlexWriter 12/10/32S (Jarl Friis)
MPEG-2 decoder (Jarl Friis)
Re: Can anyone pleaseeeeee help me.... ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Can anyone pleaseeeeee help me.... (Ray)
Re: How does "Tom's Hardware PC" sound for Linux? (Keith + Maria Wheeler)
Re: Please tell me your motherboard name if it works properly in Linux (spicerun)
3rd Day Same Modem and Same story...... ("Tina Carter")
Re: Is USB keyboard supported by Redhat 6.2 (John Thompson)
Re: To all linux user...... ("Tina Carter")
Re: New Hardware Site ("Leonid Medovyy")
Re: Iomega zip drive
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From: "DjM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: modem drivers
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 23:16:58 GMT
Dude,
Winmodems use the host CPU to convert digital signals to analog signals in
order to be sent over the phone lines. Regular modems have a special chip
to perform this function. The programming details for for Winmodems is
proprietary (i.e. there are no Linux drivers for this class of devices).
One of the tradeoffs of hardware and so-called "software modems" is that the
hardware modem does not waste CPU cycles where the software modem is
upgradeable via a new driver.
FYI: I just picked up a new serial modem as I was using USB on my Windows ME
box. I was able to snag an ELSA external which installs easy and runs great
($50-$60).
All the best,
DjM
"Andrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I have this Rockwell HCF 56K modem which isn't currently supported (I
> think). Does anyone know is there is a driver which I can download for
> another modem that might make this thing work?
>
> (and where can I check for driver updates?)
>
> thanks a ton
> [Red Hat 6.2, by the way]
>
> andrew
>
>
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From: Michael V. Ferranti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can anyone pleaseeeeee help me....
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 23:19:54 +0000
And "Tina Carter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spoke thusly:
>Please tell me in SIMPLE words what do I have to do to make
>my modem work???? I am desperate........
http://www.theory.physics.ubc.ca/ppp-linux.html
-- Michael V. Ferranti [blades&inreach*com]
Linux Counter Reg.ID# 177869 http://counter.li.org GNUke The Planet!
Sign The Linux Driver Petition: www.libralinux.com/petition.english.html
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From: "Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,tw.bbs.comp.linux
Subject: Re: Please tell me your motherboard name if it works properly in Linux
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 17:34:36 -0600
"Adam Warner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi Jerry,
>
> > I want to gather information on the compatibility of Motherboards on
> > Linux.
>
> Virtually all motherboards that work with Windows work with Linux. It
would
> be much easier to concentrate on obtaining information about those
> motherboards that currently have problems.
Sort of true. Any motherboard that uses the i810 chipset won't work
properly with Linux 2.2.x, you need the 2.4 kernel and so far there are no
shipping versions of Linux that include it. Yes, you can upgrade, but it
takes some work. The problem here is the shared system/video memory. You
either need a GART patch, or 2.4.
> As at September 1999 virtually no motherboard was unsupported:
> http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Hardware-HOWTO-2.html#ss2.1
Linux itself will work, but if you try to use graphical applications, it
won't.
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From: "DjM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: It's racism to hate Microsoft with fraudulent and inflammatory argument
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 23:43:21 GMT
Tina,
I'm wondering what operating systems have to do with racism? I have been
unable to reason how and/or why the principles of racisim (i.e. which
applies to living beings) is so very definitely applied to an inanimate
object. I do not see myself as an object and would not approve of somebody
projecting it so. Your argument is null and void.
The impression that you made on me with these remarks is that you are very
angry and you hope to share it with us. Can ya come back soon?
The fact that you have a learning curve (i.e. learn how to work in a
Unix/Linux environment) to overcome was anticipated BEFORE you got here.
More specifically, there is a learning curve for Unix (i.e. Linux). Did you
ever wonder why Unix System Administrators get the big bucks? Make no
secret: there's lots to learn here in Linuxville. However, anyone and
everyone can do it if they choose.
The kicker to all of this is that- all of this stuff is changing as we read
and write...so there will be more to learn to. That is already known, too.
No sense in flame-throwing those who have been and/or are on the path.
I wish you well. If I see one of your questions out there that I believe I
can contribute to positively- I gladly will. So, please don't feed the hate
mongers.
Thank you and have a nice day.
DjM
"Tina Carter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:0Oya6.10826$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> <Snap off> if it is a winmodem, the fact that it
> > works with wintendoze is irrelevant.
>
> I'm sorry to get personal here. But have to say this.
>
> It's about Linux. Have you ever tried to use this Operating System? yes..
> Good Luck.
> You can't get nothing done there.
>
> First word come RE COMPLE. What is that?
> Well they won't tell you but say to you RE COMPLEEEEEEEEEE.
>
> It really means that In Linux you can't install program like we do in
> windows, NT, or even in Mac.
>
> And Linux is very SENSITIVE. How is that? Well all the words have to be
> exactly big or small other wise it won't read it.
>
> Now comes grand finally. You installed Linux some how in your computer
after
> all fdisk, lilo and other halaballooo.
>
> Now you gotta configure your Mouse, Video Card, Modem and all what ever
you
> bought for PC windows, Mac or whatever,
>
> Sure one won't mind doing all this things. BUT LINUX DOESN'T MAKE IT
> EASYYYYYYYY.
> There are noooo simple way to do it.
>
> Too much info and all info seems garbage because there are too many sect
of
> linux and all of them hate each other. Finally if you get information from
> some linux user about what ever you have, it won't worth it, ironically
they
> will blame you for having bad modem and IT'S NO RELEVEANT IF YOUR WINDOWS
IS
> FINE WITH MODEM/ETC, what count it's LINUX UN fix and UN stable program
for
> multimedia, devices.
>
> My point of typing this is that don't insult Windows b/c linux look lot
> stupid and lot UN organize. Microsoft Windows, Mac and OS/2 are easy.
Linux
> (sects) are not, they have to be "educated" about what I have in our
> computer. It's an amateur operating system only powerful for networking
> which is not done BY 100% POPULATION. Over 90% people do multimedia and
> typing writing and surfing and want easy and comfort not painful program.
>
> Sorry buddy, you linux loses in all front, by the way how come linux can't
> use CPU 1000MHZ? Guess it's Intel and Amd fault too huh?
>
> Please don't insult Microsoft or it will spit you back far worse then you
> can imagine. Even Child can use windows me, Mac and OS/2 but can we say
same
> about linux??????? NOOOOO why ? b/c
> Children need to learn as much as linux so 2 thing are not at same path.
>
> Anyway.....
> Respectfully
> Tina
>
>
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From: J Sloan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,tw.bbs.comp.linux
Subject: Re: Please tell me your motherboard name if it works properly in Linux
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 23:45:46 GMT
Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
> Sort of true. Any motherboard that uses the i810 chipset won't work
> properly with Linux 2.2.x, you need the 2.4 kernel and so far there are no
> shipping versions of Linux that include it.
You can bop over to rawhide and grab an rpm of 2.4 -
then rpm -ivvh kernel-2.4... etc.
But I prefer to select my own kernel build options.
jjs
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From: "DjM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: My Modem :(
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 23:53:03 GMT
If you are running X Windows (i.e. graphical components; most people are),
you can use modemtool to configure your modem. In addition, you can call
modemtool back up to change your current setting (i.e. change to ttyS0,
ttyS1, etc...). This utility will also set the link that you would
otherwise have to set up to point at /dev/modem.
To run modemtool:
su -
export DISPLAY=:0
modemtool
Just click on the device that you want to enact.
DjM
"Tina Carter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:YC4a6.6917$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi Everyone
> I just change few thing in my linux dial up network.
> One was I change /dev/modem to /dev/ttyS1 But it keep saying Modem
> instinalising. And does nothing.....
>
> I think I need to change my modem irq how do i do that?
> Please let me know. Thanks..
>
>
>
>
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From: "DjM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: problems accessing "X"
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 00:02:58 GMT
Did you run Xconfigurator?
You must have installed the SVGA server (e.g. /usr/X11R6/bin/XF86_SVGA) as
your video card deserves this setting. FYI: I am using another video card
with a different chip set and mine also uses this setting.
The symollic link /etc/X11/X must point to this SVGA server. Make sure this
link is in place.
If you are unsure of what servers you installed, use this command:
ls /usr/X11R6/bin/XF*
All the best,
DjM
"TCP" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:h0N96.13514$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Ok, So I am a newbie. I am sorry to say that I am just now getting into
the
> whole Linux thing. I have just installed Linux Mandrake 7.2 on a:
> IBM Aptiva
> pentium 166
> 48 MB ram
> ATI Mach 64 Rage Video card
> 3.02 Gb hard drive
>
> I currently have Windows ME installed on C:
> and installed Mandrake on my 2nd partition D:
>
> Did a customize install - install was succesful. I configured X on my own
> to include
> my video card - monitors horizontal and Vert. Synch range 30-69 and 50-120
> respectively.
>
> I log in as root - type startx
> and black screen, everytime. I have gone into XF86Config several times
and
> re-set up my setting through there and still black screen.
> Is there any help out there? I desperately need it.
> Thanks
>
>
>
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can anyone pleaseeeeee help me....
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 00:35:43 GMT
Tina Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[In the wrong place, and unedited, so reformatted and editted correctly ..]
> "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> Then go look elsewhere. Freedom != comfort. You do it yourself to get
>> it the way you want it. If you aren't comfortable, then you take advantage
>> of your freedom to change it to suit you or you PAY someone to change it
>> for you. Those are your freedoms.
> Didn't ask you to help me but you did BEG us to help you when communism were
> eating you upside own, GET A LIFE.....
Eh? Out of curiousity, are you out of primary school? I don't recall
any of the countries I've lived in (UK, France, Spain, US) as having
been under communist regimes. At least not in my lifetime!
>> > now I'm verrrrrry angry I spen 2rn. hours and got nothing done in
> linxu :(((((
>> > I have no idea how to recompile this stuffff and Corel Linux is
> verrrrrry
>>
>> Bawling like a child isn't going to do it for you. Try learning how to
>> do it, then doing it, if that's what turns you on, but distros exist
>> precisely so you don't have to do that. When you buy a distro, you buy
Peter
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: To Linux Nazi
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 01:33:11 +0100
Tina Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> <snap off>Then go look elsewhere. Freedom != comfort. You do it yourself to
> get
> it the way you want it.
> Indeed I am with my freedom comfort.. But it's you who doesn't have any and
> force yourself to get
> attention. As far as paying goes I'll pay and I'll not pay and there is
> nothing you can do about it. So stop
> being nazi and racist.
Am I not alone in thinking this person is probably mentally ill, and that
someone ought to phone a doctor, or possibly notify hotmail just in
case they can do something for him/her?
I still recall the Fabricant missives, when we all got sent his letters
over the net as he grew more and more barmy, then we heard the news
that he'd stormed the dean's office with a handgun and shot several
people along the way.
Peter
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From: Keith + Maria Wheeler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: PCI IDE Controller card
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 17:47:23 -0700
Mike,
It's supported in the 2.4.0 kernel I know. Might hit www.kernel.org and
download it.
Good Luck,
KW
Mike Edwards wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I just picked up a CMD PCI-0649 IDE controller card which I have
> connected to an internal tape drive.
>
> http://www.cmd.com/ProductInfo.cfm?ProdID=168
>
> I'm running RH7.0 (with all the available updates :) ) on a 2.2.16
> kernel.
>
> I was reading the compatability lists and, while it looks like I can
> specify a command line argument in lilo.conf to probe for it (
> append="ide2=0x1e8,0x3ee,11" ), it doesn't seem to come up.
>
> Is there something I need to set in the kernel, or is the ATA/100 chip
> not supported in current, stable kernels?
>
> ...
>
> OK, I just did some digging and see that there are some patches at
> www.linux-ide.org, but are they what I really need (little or no doc on
> that site).
>
> Thanks!
> Mike
>
> --
> Mike Edwards, MIS
> Edwards Graphic Arts, Inc.
> 2700 Bell Avenue
> Des Moines, IA 50321
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From: Jarl Friis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: PlexWriter 12/10/32S
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 01:53:37 +0100
Anthony Ewell wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Is anyone running Plextor's PlexWriter 12/10/32S
> (scsi-2) CD-RW drive? And, do you have any
> opinions on it?
Great stuff, I upgraded from a Plextor 4/2/20 which also is great stuff.
easy to install, use, and whatever, just get your SCSI controller to work
and you are there!
Jarl
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From: Jarl Friis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: MPEG-2 decoder
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 01:56:19 +0100
Does anybody have a suggestion, experience with a good, supported MPEG-2
decoder card.
Jarl
--
Life is great.
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can anyone pleaseeeeee help me....
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 01:40:25 +0100
Tina Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There is nothing wrong with my english and spelling is fine expect some
If you can't see what's wrong, then you have a problem. It's "my
english", for example.
> error. It's okay for someone to insult Microsoft but not okay when Microsoft
when "*a* MS " (missing indefinite article) ...
> user answer back.
".. answers back" (wrong declination of regular verb).
> I study it for 2 hours and NOT HELPING IT......
"studied it" (wrong tense) "and IT'S NOT HELPING ME" (mixed up object
and subject).
> There is not much to go one.
"go on" (typo, pbly ;-).
> First I got one folder and it has files that's all, There is NOT MUCH
There is nothing eslse that can be in a "folder" (i.e. directory)
except files (and other directories). You read them. Particularly the
one called README. Your instructions are there. If you like, Il paste
them here:
If you are not using our pre-compiled Debian package, you will need to
compile WvDial yourself. This is not too difficult as long as you have a
few things installed on your Linux system:
- pppd 2.2.0f or 2.3.5, with the pppd program preferably
at /usr/sbin/pppd.
- gcc 2.7.2 or higher, with g++ (but you don't necessarily need
libg++ or libstdc++, as WvDial doesn't need them)
- GNU make; you may need version 3.75 or higher, I'm not sure.
Almost any halfway modern Linux system should have all of these.
Building WvDial is a simple matter. First, check the Makefile to see if
everything looks okay to you. By default, wvdial and wvdialconf will
install in /usr/local/bin with their man pages in /usr/local/man/man1.
That's probably right for most systems.
To build and install WvDial, then:
make
make install
Got it? Gooooooooood.
Peter
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ray)
Subject: Re: Can anyone pleaseeeeee help me....
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 01:08:38 -0000
On Sat, 20 Jan 2001 19:33:28 -0500, Tina Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>I have lucent modem 56k modem, and I works fine in Windows Me.
Do you know which exact modem you have?(Hint, Lucent doesn't make modems but
they do make the chips that some other companies put in their modems). I'm
asking because most but not all modems with Lucent chipsets are winmodems
and either are not supported at all or require more skill than you have just
yet to set up. If that's the case you might be better off getting a real
(ie. hardware based) modem instead.
>
>Here is what my problem is, In linux (first version). When I click to Modem
>Network thing
>It's says following things.
>Modem ready.
>Modem initializing.
>
>Where is dialing????????
>Please tell me in SIMPLE words what do I have to do to make
>my modem work???? I am desperate........
What distribution of Linux are you using?
--
Ray
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From: Keith + Maria Wheeler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How does "Tom's Hardware PC" sound for Linux?
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 18:14:43 -0700
Yeechang Lee wrote:
> How does the build-your-own-PC configuration listed at Tom's Hardware
> (http://www.tomshardware.com/howto/01q1/010115/pcsystem-01.html) sound for
> running Linux? Would appreciate any glaring incompatibilities, as well as
> comments on the component choices made in general.
>
> The configuration follows:
>
> Motherboard
> Asus A7V, Socket A, VIA KT133 chipset
> $145.00
I have three of this M/B. Two running Win98SE and one running RH 7.0. Very
sweet, but onboard Promise ATA100 controller is not supported by all distros
of Linux. Be advised! There are several patches for the 2.2.x kernel which
allow it to work fine. And the 2.4.0 kernel DOES support it natively, but is a
bit too unstable at the moment for me.
>
>
> CPU
> AMD Athlon 800MHz (overclockable to 1000MHz)
> $109.00
I would not overclock the CPU. The AMD Athlon 1000 in the boxed factory set is
about ~$220 at www.spartantech.com and it includes an AMD approved fan! I'm
using these and they are FAST!
>
>
> Cooler
> Swiftech MC370-0A
> $25.00
See above note.
>
>
> System Memory
> 256MB PC133 SDRAM
> $83.00
I am also running 256MB PC133 SDRAM. Do yourself a favor and use ECC memory.
It adds another layer of protection against system failures and the cost
difference is minimal.
>
>
> Case
> ATX Mid Tower with 300 Watt power supply
> $55.00
Go with the 400W ATX supply. More power is good. AMD Athlon's DO like to eat.
;-) www.datawarehouse.com has the Antec 400W ATX supplies at about $85 and
they're AMD approved!
>
>
> Graphics Card
> Asus V7700 32MB, GeForce2 GTS with TV Out
> $230.00
Nice if you think you'll use the TV outs. I went with the 3dfx Voodoo5 5500
AGP w/ 64MB of memory. The gamers I know swear by this card and RH 7.0 seems
to love it too.
>
>
> Hard Disk
> IBM DTLA-307030, UltraATA/100, 30GB, 7200RPM
> $149.00
Great drive. I have the 45GB version. Fast and compatible. Seen problems with
the WD's and the Maxtor's.
>
>
> DVD-ROM Drive
> Toshiba SD-M1402, 10/40X ATAPI
> $85.00
Not done this yet. I'm running a standard 48x Toshiba CD-ROM. Couldn't see
that I'd use a DVD-ROM in my Linux box.
>
>
> NIC
> 3Com Fast Etherlink 3C905B-TX PCI (100Mbit/s)
> $35.00
Oops. Many problems getting Linux to see and use this. I'm opting for the old
reliable Intel PRO/100+ series. Linux seems to love these.
>
>
> Sound Card
> Creative Soundblaster Live! Value PCI
> $49.00
I got the SB PCI 128 and had problems getting RH to see it. Not too worried as
I don't see this being used in my Linux system.
>
>
> Accessories
> Mouse, keyboard etc.
> $30.00
Coolio.
>
>
> Total $995.00
Sounds about right. Check http://www.spartantech.com/ for some of these parts.
They have most everything you listed, I think.
>
> --
> <URL:http://www.pobox.com/~ylee/>
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From: spicerun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,tw.bbs.comp.linux
Subject: Re: Please tell me your motherboard name if it works properly in Linux
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 19:25:41 -0600
Jerry Wong wrote:
> I want to gather information on the compatibility of Motherboards on
> Linux.
>
Gigabyte GA-6BXD (Intel 440BX AGPset) Motherboard running dual PIIs/333
Mhz (soon to be PIIIs/600 Mhz).
Although Bios updates were needed for the board to work under Windows 2K
<according to the Gigabyte newsgroup>,
I've never had to upgrade the bios. Linux works perfectly on it.
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From: "Tina Carter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: 3rd Day Same Modem and Same story......
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 20:28:16 -0500
I've been trying to ask over and over again how to installed my modem it
seems people don't know or just don't tell and some nice people do tell but
I don't know
how to do it or My Linux can't do it.
Now there is command "make Makefile" I can't use it......
In my corel Linux it says bash command not found. There is File Makefile
came with wvdial but it doesn't work......
why not?
Now how do i compile this?????????
http://www.worldvisions.ca/wvdial/README
I am talking about above information not working in my computer....
This is only thing which is stoping me using my modem... To build and
install WvDial,
then: make make install How can I build and install when my "make and
Makefile not working"
I typed
make
then make make install...
What am I doing worng? Where is my make command???????
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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is USB keyboard supported by Redhat 6.2
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 12:03:51 -0600
"MAHMUD, MOHAMMAD SAKIF" wrote:
> Please let me know if USB keyboard supported by Redhat 6.2?
Not "out of the box." You need to either compile and install the
back-ported USB support or download and compile a newer kernel
that includes this support. I'm running a USB scanner with RH
v6.1 and kernel 2.2.18 and this kernel version includes support
for USB keyboards.
--
-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: "Tina Carter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: To all linux user......
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 20:31:47 -0500
I won't lie to you, I never ever fight with any one but only with linux user
and worst I wanna be linux user :(.
I dont' understand why this is...
"Pete Ritter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Tina Carter wrote:
> >
> > If I say Linux is most ugly thing every happen, It will hurt you right?
>
> Wrong, Tina! It doesn't hurt us because we are secure in the knowledge
> that for our purposes, GNU/Linux serves us better than MS Windows.
> That's why we use it!
>
> > Now
> > Imagine yourself someone from Ms Windows side when you hate us same way
you
> > will GET SAME RESPOND.
>
> Is this because you are somehow insecure about your use of MS Windows?
> If that OS serves your purposes better than GNU/Linux, then you have no
> reason to be hurt.
>
> >
> > I am come here to get some help in Simple words which I can understand.
But
> > you know there are people who laugh at windows over and over at some
people
> > you linux terrorist need to get something back.
>
> Tina, just ignore the rants of those immature, unfortunate people. They
> are not here to help, only to provoke and satisfy their egos. They
> safely can be ignored.
>
> >
> > I would like to think of myself as computer student, YOU DONT' INSULT ME
AND
> > MY FAVOIRTE OS and I won't insult you and your favorite stuff. Point of
my
> > posting is some of your are extremist no matter how many time you post
you
> > gotta insult us. But I am not one of those MS Windows user who will just
be
> > quite and read and listen to your garbage, I will retaliate.
>
> This would not be good, Tina, because you would just be lowering
> yourself to their level. Just ignore them. The only ones you should
> pay attention to are those willing to help you without being
> judgemental.
>
> >
> > I wanna learn Linux peacefully so let's not get into each other way, if
you
> > can't help me don't respond but If you can I thank you but don't insult
me
> > and my Microsoft OS or your linux terrorism and racism will be answer
and
> > PURGED.
>
> Your desire to learn GNU/Linux is all you need to get help here. Ask
> away...
>
> >
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From: "Leonid Medovyy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.comp.hardware,alt.comp.hardware.overclocking,alt.comp.hardware.overclocking.amd,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,alt.es.hackers.hardware,microsoft.public.es.windows98.hardware,north.hardware,viwa.hardware,yu.comp.hardware
Subject: Re: New Hardware Site
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 01:33:52 GMT
I am in process of developing new hardware site, and I am looking for a
people that would like to participate in the development.
The site I am developing will be specializing in hardware and may be
software that things normal people can buy (we're not going to have a review
of $10,000,00 SGI workstations :).
So far I've finished site design, and registered a domain name
(www.hardwareqa.com).
Our development team consists of five people (including me).
If you are interested please email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or even
better contact me on icq (102833994).
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: Re: Iomega zip drive
Date: 22 Jan 2001 01:53:26 GMT
On Fri, 19 Jan 2001 22:02:52 -0600, Bob Howard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Does anyone have any advice for hooking up an Iomega zip drive and what
>drivers to use for a beginning Linux Red Hat user. Please email me at:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] if you can help.
>
>Thanks!
>
>
SCSI or parallel port or other? I have SCSI. It's all I know.
--
the softrat
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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