Linux-Hardware Digest #886, Volume #14           Sun, 10 Jun 01 04:13:05 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Wich AMD 266 HMz bus motherboard to buy for Linux (Mark Hillary)
  Re: Installing a CD writer ??????????? (David Means)
  Re: Geforce2 Go and XFree 4.0.3 ("Anthony")
  SCSI definitions? (Leonard Evens)
  Re: has any one successfuly setup a pinacle pctv studio card for red hat 6.2 
(William Burrow)
  Re: Redhat 7.1 and Oxygen ("D. Stimits")
  Re: ServerWorks III LE Chipset under linux (Cokey de Percin)
  Re: ServerWorks III LE Chipset under linux (Dan Smith)
  Re: How to read a Win95-partition with partition table with errors. ("Charles E. 
Kinney")
  Re: SCSI definitions? ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Re: Servers and energy saving? (Vincent Fox)
  Re: SCSI definitions? (Juergen Pfann)
  Won't read music CD, will read data cd?
  cdda capable?
  Re: TRADE FOR MATROX G200 (PCI) (John Muller)
  Re: rh 7.1 big install problem
  Hardware Q (Mohamed Hosny Mohamed)

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From: Mark Hillary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Wich AMD 266 HMz bus motherboard to buy for Linux
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 00:26:42 -0400

Frank wrote:

> Wich DDR motherboard to buy for a Linux machine?
> I 'am planing to buy a new computer with a AMD processor with the 266
> MHz bus I don't know wich motherboard works stable under Linux since
> I've heard rumors that the Via 686B is not doing in the way it should
> do.
> 
> Your help will be appriciated.
> 
> Frank
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 

I have got an Abit KT7A, It is very cool.
-- 
Mark Hillary
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Knode Rules!!

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From: David Means <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Installing a CD writer ???????????
Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 20:19:49 -0400

paul wrote:
> 
> Dear reader,
> 
> I am trying to install a CD writer (HP 8100i) under Linux RedHat 7.0. So
> I started reading the CD writing howto.

{snip}
I'm on RH 7.0 too, and I'm assuming that you're using an ATAPI/IDE CDRW,
not a tru SCSI CDRW.

After I ran the scripts (as you indicated), I then did this:


lilo.conf:

boot=/dev/hda
map=/boot/map
install=/boot/boot.b
prompt
timeout=50
message=/boot/message
linear
default=linux

image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.17-14
    label=linux
    read-only
    root=/dev/hda8
    append="hdc=ide-scsi"
                                                                                       
 

Note: hdc == my CDRW device.

And my /etc/rc.d/rc.local script contains this:


#   --------------------------------------------------------------
#   Install ide-scsi modules for CDRW
#
insmod sg
insmod ide-scsi

                                    
After that, I'm styl'n.

Enjoy,

David


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From: "Anthony" <sscandyman @ bigfoot.com>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Geforce2 Go and XFree 4.0.3
Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 20:40:55 -0400

I had a similar problem on my Dell Dimension 4100 with a Geforce 2
GTS/Slackware7.1/kernel 2.2.16/xfree86 4.03 - That error usually means (with
this particular driver at least) that the kernel module is not loaded.
Fabrice's suggestion of modprobe NVdriver *should* load the kernel module
and once it's loaded, you should have no trouble getting into X.  Adding the
module to your startup script will avoid this (minor) inconvenience,
assuming you don't mind the extra half-meg driver lurking in memory...

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> Fabrice Colin wrote:
> >
> > "T. J. Domsalla" wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I recently installed SuSE Linux 7.2 (XFree 4.03) on a Dell Inspiron
8000
> > > with Nvidia Geforce2 Go. Kernel is 2.4.5, Nvidia GLX and kernel driver
> > > 1.0.1251.
> > > When starting X I get "Failed to initialize the NVdriver kernel
module" and
> > > "Screen found, but none have a usable configuration".
> > > Did anyone get it running?
> > >
> > I had the same problem this weekend after having installed 1.0-1251, but
> > with a GeForce2 GTS on RH6.2/XFree86 4.02/kernel 2.4.5.
> >
> > Unfortunately I don't remember how I fixed it. I wonder if it was
> > because
> > I played with the IgnoreEDID option in XF86Config ?
> >
> > If it says "Failed to initialize the NVdriver kernel module", it's maybe
> > worth switching to initlevel 3 (that's "multi-user without X"), load
> > the NVdriver manually with 'modpobe NVdriver' and run X with 'startx'.
> > See if it makes any difference.
> >
> > Sorry if this is all very vague, but I am at work and I am hungry ;-)
> >
> > Fabrice
>
> I had the problem with a RH upgrade, The new XF86 supports
> Geforce and conflicts with an already installed driver.
>
> I had to return the entry in XF98Config-4 sub section "Device"
> "Driver nvidia" back to the original entry "nv".
> --
> -
> -
> -
> Regards F



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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: SCSI definitions?
Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 19:30:23 -0500

Can someone give me a brief refresher course in SCSI.  I have a machine
with a Symbios ultra wide SCSI adapter and two SCSI disks.  I would
like to either replace one of them or add a third disk.  SCSI
disks come SCSI, SCSI2, and SCSI3 and with 80 pin and 68 pin
connectors.  I'm think I need one with a 68 pin connector because
that is what I on the external port, but I'm a bit confused about 
the rest.

-- 

Leonard Evens      [EMAIL PROTECTED]      847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Burrow)
Subject: Re: has any one successfuly setup a pinacle pctv studio card for red hat 6.2
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 01:09:28 -0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On 9 Jun 2001 10:26:06 -0700 in comp.os.linux.hardware,
mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have this card, I need help with setting up the bttv drivers and the 
>i2c patch I have the tarball for bttv .7x but I dont know what to do from here
>I have kernel 2.2.15-5.0 I would like to do this with out a kernel update if 
>possible.  Please Help

Have you read the bttv-HOWTO?  It should contain tips and info to help
you install the card.  Once you've given it a chance, come back and post
your problems.  The HOWTO is listed on the LDP:

http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/mini/BTTV.html

-- 
William Burrow  --  New Brunswick, Canada             o
Copyright 2001 William Burrow                     ~  /\
I'd rather listen to Isaac Newton, also.        ~  ()>()

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Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 20:39:25 -0600
From: "D. Stimits" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Redhat 7.1 and Oxygen

rusli huandra wrote:
> 
> Does Xfree86 4.03 (Redhat 7.1) support Oxygen VX1 32MB? TIA
> 
> rusli

I have a redhat 7.1 beta machine, with XFree86 4.0.2, that runs an
Oxygen VX-1 AGP 32 MB card, driver "glint". It seems stable, but has
some minor artifacts when moving objects around. I don't know if the
4.0.3 version has improved on the artifacts, but the card is supported.

D. Stimits, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: Cokey de Percin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ServerWorks III LE Chipset under linux
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 02:23:56 GMT

Dan Smith wrote:
> 
> I am thinking about replacing my Dual BX board with another.  I was
> looking at a mobo that has the ServerWorks ServerSet III LE chipset.
> It has a lot of the features that I like and seems to be pretty
> upscale.  I have not heard much directly about this chipset, but
> noticed that all boards with it are pretty expensive.
> 
> Can anyone tell me about this chipset and how it acts under linux?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> --Dan

I don't have an LE, but I do have an HE (Tyan Thunder 2500) and it works 
_extremely_ well.  Actually, it smokes.....  I've had absolutely no
problems with the SW chip set, although Tyan's implementation of the 
BIOS chip set leaves something to be desired.  I'm using RH 6.2 upgraded 
to the 2.4.x kernel series (2.4.3 actually), but I've tested the 2.2.18/19 
kernels with no problems.  

Best

Cokey

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From: Dan Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ServerWorks III LE Chipset under linux
Date: 09 Jun 2001 23:15:33 -0400

That sounds good.

I've read a lot of good things about the ServerWorks-based
motherboards.  Do you have 64-bit PCI slots on your board?  The one I
am considering does and I have heard that 2.4 supports 64-bit PCI
access.

Glad to hear that you're so pleased...


Thanks!

--Dan



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From: "Charles E. Kinney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to read a Win95-partition with partition table with errors.
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 00:12:09 -0400

In article <9ftjk6$oiv$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "johan goris"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> First is the Linux OS put on the computer. Win98 is put on afterwards. I
> want to save the information on hda2 (about 2 GB)

Bummer.  If you MUST have Windows, you have to install it first.  Windows
inisists on overwriting the MBR info, which is a real pain.  So load up
Windows first, then do your Lnux install.  You can safely let LILO (or
your choice of loader) install itself on the MBR, and it will happily
recognize your Windows installation(s).  Just make sure you add the
Windows info to you /etc/lilo.conf file, then run lilo.

As far as recovery, if the previous respondents suggestions don't work,
you're probably hosed.

Good luck,
  Chuck Kinney


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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SCSI definitions?
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 04:50:13 GMT

Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Can someone give me a brief refresher course in SCSI.  I have a machine
> with a Symbios ultra wide SCSI adapter and two SCSI disks.  I would

If it's wide and scsi2, then it's pretty well "standard". But you
need to check that it's not one of the new scsi3 LVD devices
(all scsi devices are supposedly backwards compatible, but I don't
see how LVD devices can be compatible with non-LVD, as the signals
are electrically different).

> like to either replace one of them or add a third disk.  SCSI
> disks come SCSI, SCSI2, and SCSI3 and with 80 pin and 68 pin
> connectors.  I'm think I need one with a 68 pin connector because

You don't.

> that is what I on the external port, but I'm a bit confused about 
> the rest.

It's the internal bus that you probably want to look at. Get a disk
that fits on that. It sounds like you want scsi2 ultrawide (i.e. ultra
speed, and wide = 2 channels wide). Those are indeed 68pin, if I count
right.

OTOH if the heat buildup will be too much, then you'll want an
external.

The external port on some controllers is is the third prong of a bus that
can only have two ends, so it's "either or". If you use it then the
controller can't be in the middle of the internal bus, but has to be at
the end. Other controllers don't care.


Peter

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Vincent Fox)
Subject: Re: Servers and energy saving?
Date: 10 Jun 2001 06:05:30 GMT

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tarken) 
writes:

*snip*

>Now the servers a little more trickey. I know that it is bad to send a
>server
>into sleep mode because of the hard-drives, so I was wondering whether
>there are any servers that can either drop down to a lower clock-cycle
>if they aren't accessed during certain times or sleep if not accessed,
>but
>still leave the hard-drives running?

I NEVER spin down drives on a server if I can help. If I'm going to
do so on a critical fileserver, I back it up first, cause you never
know if it'll spin back up.

>If anyone has come up with an energy saving plan that works for all
>their computers I would love to hear about it - I am sure someone in
>Calafornia has got this problem sorted.

There are solutions in that vein. Intel calls it SpeedStep, other
vendors call it other things. You know, laptops nowadays generally
have a way to do this. However, most solutions are going to require
major hardware replacement. Your current servers are likely not going
to be equipped with the right chipset or CPU for this. This is not
something a software or BIOS upgrade will typically fix.

I notice for example the newer servers at rebel.com use the
TransMeta CPU and claim to save lots of energy.

However, in my opinion most gains will come not from CPU, which
are really only a fraction of your computer energy usage. Such
basic things as turning off monitors, not just energy-save mode
but actually OFF will save lots. Those big 21" monitors suck
down 200-300 Watts sometimes. A lot of places could save a lot
of daytime energy which is often the problem time, just by switching
to flatscreens.

Also consider if you use a newer system with lower power needs and
heat creation, you'll need less air-conditioning, so that will feed into it.
Post back if you come up with anything good.




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        "Who needs horror movies when we have Microsoft"?
         -- Christine Comaford, PC Week, 27/9/95

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From: Juergen Pfann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SCSI definitions?
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 09:05:27 +0200

"Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
> 
> Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Can someone give me a brief refresher course in SCSI.  I have a machine
> > with a Symbios ultra wide SCSI adapter and two SCSI disks.  I would
> 
> If it's wide and scsi2, then it's pretty well "standard". But you
> need to check that it's not one of the new scsi3 LVD devices
> (all scsi devices are supposedly backwards compatible, but I don't
> see how LVD devices can be compatible with non-LVD, as the signals
> are electrically different).
> 

Nope. Of course the signalling _is_ different, but all LVD hard disks 
I've seen so far work fine if attached to a SE bus. The IBM models 
do have jumpers to actually _force_ SE signalling, but in most cases 
you don't even have to activate these, as the drive's interface 
automatically detects if it is in a SE or LVD bus.
But there is one caveat left : LVD disks on a SE bus usually can't 
be the last device of the bus - i.e. the one to terminate -, 
because most if not all don't have a termination jumper. So you 
gotta hook a SE device proper to the physical end of your cable, 
or use an extra (active) terminator at the cable's end - what you'd 
do in a LVD bus anyway...

> > like to either replace one of them or add a third disk.  SCSI
> > disks come SCSI, SCSI2, and SCSI3 and with 80 pin and 68 pin
> > connectors.  I'm think I need one with a 68 pin connector because
> 
> You don't.
> 
> > that is what I on the external port, but I'm a bit confused about
> > the rest.
> 
> It's the internal bus that you probably want to look at. Get a disk
> that fits on that. It sounds like you want scsi2 ultrawide (i.e. ultra
> speed, and wide = 2 channels wide). Those are indeed 68pin, if I count
> right.
> 

"2 channels wide", that term is a bit confusing IMO. I guess you mean 
16=2x8 bit parallel, whereas we usually say "dual channel" for host 
adapters with two separate SCSI busses on one board. 
But of course, the internal connectors for SE Ultra-Wide or LVD 
are 68-pin "very high density" nowadays.
Again, IMHO, nowadays it's easier to get LVD hard disks than SE UW 
with the proper 68p. interface connector - as I said before, that's 
usually no problem to attach these to SE. But I'd avoid the 80p. 
"SCA" connectors - these are more expensive _plus_ require an 
additional adapter; so not worth it IMO.

> OTOH if the heat buildup will be too much, then you'll want an
> external.
> 
> The external port on some controllers is is the third prong of a bus that
> can only have two ends, so it's "either or". If you use it then the
> controller can't be in the middle of the internal bus, but has to be at
> the end. Other controllers don't care.
> 

ACK. 

Juergen

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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Won't read music CD, will read data cd?
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 07:30:07 -0000

Hi, 

I'm having a problem in Linux, happens with Mandrake or Red Hat, the 
cdrom icon on the desktop allows me to mount normal data cdroms but won't
mount or read normal music CDs.
Has anyone else had this problem and can they please help me.

Lex.

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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: cdda capable?
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 07:30:33 -0000

Hi,

Sorry if this question's been asked before but I couldn't find it.
If it has someone can just point me there.

After trying cdparanoia it tolds me that my drive wasn't cdda capable
and the readme said It might work with scsi-emulation compiled instead 
of the old ide-atapi or whatever.
So I compiled a new kernel and booted it up and ran cdparanoia -vsQ

It found the scsi-emulated cd-rom but came up with all these errors
still saying it wasn't cdda capable.

My question is this.
I realise that some Cdroms just can't do cdda. But I can encode mp3 from
cds in windows programs. So is it cdda capable or is that different?

Can someone please help me and tell me if I'm going to have to fork out
for a new cdrom.

thanks in advance

Lex.

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From: John Muller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: TRADE FOR MATROX G200 (PCI)
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 07:30:59 -0000

Hi,

I have a brand new Matrox G200 AGP 8MB that won't fit in my box. It's still 
in the wrapping, with software still sealed up. I need a G200 PCI as well, 
since my only AGP slot is already taken up.Do you know anybody who can use 
the AGP version?

Reply by email to discuss.

Thanks,

John

Kyle Keys wrote:
> 
> Anyone who has a pci G200... I would like trade for my 8M Elsa Gloria
> Synergy (PCI) (Permedia2 chipset)
> They are similarly valued cards, but the matrox are better supported
> under linux.  This card would be better suited in a windows or Digital
> UNIX box.   Reply by e-mail to discuss a trade.
> 
> Thanks,
> Kyle Keys
> 


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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: rh 7.1 big install problem
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 07:31:38 -0000

I had similar problem (a number of people are getting it as well). I 
almost given up & wanting to try Mandrake 8.0 instead.

However I discovered the workaround by chance.

What I did was to boot up using cdrom.
At the the boot prompt entered the following to perform a text-based 
install.

boot: linux text hdd=cdrom

After that just go through with text mode install. 

It'll fail a couple of times stating "not enough space" & throw you back 
to the X server video card detection. Just press OK & it'll copy the files 
across.

Hope it helps.

Koi
alik blochin wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi,
> ok i have a very very big problem :
> (i can say i am desparate)
> 
> i've tryied to install rh 7.1 for god know how many
> tomes and without success:
> the installation gets stacked on :
> "transferring install image to hard drive"
> 
> i've tryied all available option with disk druid, fdisk
> and automatic partitioning
> but nothing nothing helps.....
> still the same result
> 
> when at the point where the installation hangs
> i did ctrl+alt+f3 i saw that that there was a problem
> to create the partitions:
> /boot - cannot create not enough space
> /          the same
> ....
> ....
> ....
> 
> when i tryied to install for the second time
> it did the partitions but
> gave the error:
> hdd disk error something,
> can't read block.....
> and this error keeps running down the screen for each block
> (the installation hangs with
> "transferring install image to hard drive" )
> 
> (the install cd is perfectly ok)
> 
> then it writes :
>  there was a problem  maybe
>  because you haven't enough space....
> 
> but that's boolshit
> i have 14GB just for linux
> i have two disks:
> primary 20GB
> primary slave 30GB : (14GB for linux)
> 
> when i had just one 20GB the installation was the same
> hanged on the same point
> 
> i just don't know what to do....
> 
> it seems like hardware problem
> but windows works ok...
> and furthermore Mandrake 8.0 gets installed without
> a problem
> but hangs every 2-3 hours but that's i believe
> an IRQ problem
> i somehow have 4 devices on the same IRQ.....
> 
> my configuration :
> AMD 900 MHZ
> MBoard chaintech 7AJA with AC'97 sound on-board
> 256 MB memory
> two disks...
> 
> * by the way when i tryied to install RH 7.0
> i've also was without luck...
> after partitioning the install gets reboot and doesn't
> actually did the partitioning (as i checked later)
> 
> **ok if anybody knows what might that be
> and any suggestions i would be glad to hear.....
> 
> it driving me crazy.....
> 
> 
> 
> 


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From: Mohamed Hosny Mohamed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Hardware Q
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 07:32:20 -0000

hello linux users,
actullay i  just bignning to use linux and the copy that i have is 
mandrake7. it was easy to install and to use it with windows but the 
problem that i have is -- it doesn't recognized 2 card of mine 
the modem card "Rockwell 33.600 internal"--- Sound Card "Creatice Vibra 
128"......so what can i do for it? and from where can i get the driever 
for them?
Thanks for advance
mohhosny

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