Linux-Hardware Digest #59, Volume #9 Wed, 30 Dec 98 06:13:32 EST
Contents:
Re: ess sound cards (Hashi)
Re: When will kernel 2.2 be released? (Bill Pitz)
Re: need to take action on the Winmodem problem (Chris Lee)
Re: need to take action on the Winmodem problem (jedi)
How to set Riva TNT card in Xf86 in Red Hat 5.1 system (kramesh)
How to install Xf86 3.3.3 on Red Hat 5.1 system. (kramesh)
Re: In praise of winmodems (Dan Kegel)
Re: Linux won't see full available RAM (32M) ("Peter K. Achs")
Re: Tape drive technology recommendation? ("Khalid M. Baheyeldin")
Micron Milleneum 450 Max and Linux? (Traci Collins)
Micron Millenium 450 Max and Linux? (Traci Collins)
Re: WHEE!!!! Linux on an 386 (for real) w/ 4M (LinuxCyrix)
Re: WHEE!!!! Linux on an 386 (for real) w/ 4M (LinuxCyrix)
Re: Getting soundcard work ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Newbie need help ! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Micro Star mother board MS-5169 ("Marcos A. Gallego")
Re: Want to do direct install of Redhat 5.2 via FTP since I have Cox@home but am
stuck in the DUNGEONS OF DOOM !!! SO HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELP !!! (Marc)
AMD k-6 & external cache failure ("Jakub Chmielewski")
Re: External Modem Question. (Rob Clark)
Tapestore 8000 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 19:45:01 +0000
From: Hashi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: ess sound cards
re:
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> I have what windoze calls an "ess audio device"
> I found sound.o for the card, but insmod says
> the sound.o file was compiled for 2.0.33 and
> I have 2.0.35 :(
---
(provided you have your kernel source code, often found in:
/usr/src/) have you tried recompiling your modules?
re:
---
> Where can I get this sound.o thing to get this
> damn sound card working? Or is there another
> way to get it working?
---
is you're running RedHat you could try sndconfig, but it will
probably fall over if you haven't got correctly compiled modules or
your kernel isn't set up correctly.
http://www.linux-howto.com/
is your friend.
re:
---
> Any help would be
> greatly appreciated. As would an email reply:)
---
now don't be lazy, the whole point of a newsgroup is to share
information so that it is beneficial to (and open to criticism by)
anyone.
Hashi.
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.~. the way of the Sacred Penguin is the path of
/V\ the truly righteous...
// \\
/( )\ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
^`~'^ http://thor.prohosting.com/~hashaday
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From: Bill Pitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: When will kernel 2.2 be released?
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 19:27:46 GMT
Agreed -- I wouldn't run them on a server.
I do have a machine at home that has been running the 2.1.131 kernel and has
been up solid for quite some time. I have never experienced any problems with
the development kernels, but just the word "development" would make me keep it
off any production machines.
Bill
Harry McGregor wrote:
> On Sat, 26 Dec 1998 14:41:37 -0800, Andrew Chen
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >Just run the development kernel. From the comments that I've heard, the
> >newest development kernel (newest 2.1.132-- I could be wrong, they seem to
> >change hourly) is stable enough that it could be released today.
> >
> >Andrew
>
> Last I heard it the 2.1.xx kernels were up the M$ quality (about
> 125), and are not quite up to linux quality. If you need things that
> are in the 2.1.xx kernels run them, or if it's your own workstation,
> give them a try, but for a server, I would stick away from them.
>
> Harry
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Lee)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: need to take action on the Winmodem problem
Date: 30 Dec 1998 02:55:52 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>
>On 29 Dec 1998 00:42:57 -0600, Steve Mading <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>>mlw ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>>
>>I avoid the problem by refusing all internal modems and only getting
>>externals. If there's no physical connection to the motherboard other
>>than through a standard rs232 port, then I'm guaranteed that there's no
>>way in hell it can offload some of its responsibility to the CPU no matter
>>what it says on the box in the store. Granted it costs about $10-15 more
>>than an equivilent internal modem, but then you get Dasblinkelights on the
>>modem. You can never have too many blinkenlights.
>
>No. Forcing users to have another power plug on their desk and more
>cables to cope with sucks pretty severely, even if Dasblinkelights
>are extremely useful for troubleshooting.
It's the internal modems that suck dude. Try using/swaping that PC internal
modem with another computer. What's that? It doesn't work with an Mac or an
Amiga system? Looks like you have to buy another modem,dude....
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (jedi)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: need to take action on the Winmodem problem
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 01:48:39 -0800
On 29 Dec 1998 23:30:30 -0500, Michael David Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Lee) writes:
>>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>>>On 29 Dec 1998 00:42:57 -0600, Steve Mading <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>wrote:
>>>>mlw ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>>>>I avoid the problem by refusing all internal modems and only getting
>>>>externals. If there's no physical connection to the motherboard other
>>>>than through a standard rs232 port, then I'm guaranteed that there's no
>>>>way in hell it can offload some of its responsibility to the CPU no matter
>>>>what it says on the box in the store. Granted it costs about $10-15 more
>>>>than an equivilent internal modem, but then you get Dasblinkelights on the
>>>>modem. You can never have too many blinkenlights.
>>>No. Forcing users to have another power plug on their desk and more
>>>cables to cope with sucks pretty severely, even if Dasblinkelights
>>>are extremely useful for troubleshooting.
>>It's the internal modems that suck dude. Try using/swaping that PC internal
>>modem with another computer. What's that? It doesn't work with an Mac or an
>>Amiga system? Looks like you have to buy another modem,dude....
>
>This is where the Linux crowd needs to get a good stiff double shot of
>the real world. People buy winmodems. They buy them because they're
>cheap, and because they're good enough for most people's needs. If you
So, what happens when they decide they want to take up
Starcraft (netwise) and play nice humungous maps or do
some other non-trivial thing while they're using that
crippled pseudo-modem?
>want those people to consider Linux, you need to make it work with the
>hardware they have. It's really funny, you know. I'm a Unix-head from
>way back, and my first exposure to Linux was from people raving about
>how it would run on just about any old cheap, crufty hunk of silicon.
>Now, suddenly, winmodems aren't good enough for the Linux crowd. Well,
>fellas, I can only say: fish or cut bait.
Unnecessarily proprietary is still unnecessarily proprietary
anyway you would like to spin it.
--
Herding Humans ~ Herding Cats
Neither will do a thing unless they really want to, or |||
is coerced to the point where it will scratch your eyes out / | \
as soon as your grip slips.
In search of sane PPP docs? Try http://penguin.lvcm.com
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From: kramesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.setup,de.comp.os.linux.
Subject: How to set Riva TNT card in Xf86 in Red Hat 5.1 system
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 18:12:40 +0800
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Please tell me where to download the updates and how to install.
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From: kramesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.setup,de.comp.os.linux
Subject: How to install Xf86 3.3.3 on Red Hat 5.1 system.
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 18:18:07 +0800
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New to linux and using Riva TNT acc. card. Xconfig doesn't reconize this
card. so tel me where I can download RIVA TNT updates and how to install
in my system. Thank you.
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<font size=-1>New to linux and using Riva TNT acc. card. Xconfig doesn't
reconize this card. so tel me where I can download RIVA TNT updates and
how to install in my system. Thank you.</font></html>
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From: Dan Kegel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: In praise of winmodems
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 18:58:08 -0800
Russell Nelson schrieb:
> A winmodem would work *great* in a voice-only application. Why?
> Because the toughest DSP work is encoding/decoding DTMF (duh), and
> because you lose the byte-stuffing and serial-port interfacing needed
> for an external voice modem.
Indeed. It would be nice for starters to have a Winmodem driver
that was just a framework to hang codecs (= software modems) on.
Initially, it could just support voice and a DTMF codec, and maybe
a 2400 baud codec. Then anyone who was interested could tackle
implementing a V.32 codec... and eventually, we might make it all
the way up to v.90.
The framework should let codecs plug into ISDN drivers, too, since
there is a lot of similarity between an ISDN card and a Winmodem.
- Dan
--
Speaking only for myself, not for my employer
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From: "Peter K. Achs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Linux won't see full available RAM (32M)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 20:12:48 -0600
Yeah, I tried that one already, and all I get is a kernel panic.
Thanks anyway :)
news wrote:
> you could always pass the mem parameter to lilo like i do on my systempro..
>
> @ boot time
>
> mem=90M
>
> or in lilo.conf
>
> append "mem=90M"
>
> works like a charm
>
> Peter.vanHelden wrote in message <76b3o4$pst$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> >
> >Point your browser to http://www.dejanews.com and search for
> >'Compaq memory hole Linux' would have been far better advice.
> >
> >
> >Peter
> >
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >: On Wed, 23 Dec 1998 21:48:21 GMT, "Peter K. Achs"
> >: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>'s laid this one on us:
> >
> >: >I have a Compaq 486/66M with Pentium Overdrive and 32M of RAM. The 24
> >: >Meg of the memory resides on an expansion card. Linux reports only 16 M
> >: >of it. Already tried the mem=32m at LILO prompt. All I get is a kernel
> >: >panic. What else should I look for?
> >: >
> >
> >: try fdisk. It gets rid of Linux.
> >
> >
> >: o | | o
> >: _ _ _ | | _ _ _ _
> >: / |/ |/ | | |/_) |/ | / |/ |/ |
> >: | | |_/ |_/ | \_/ |__/ |/ | | |_/
> >: /|
> >: \|
> >: Today or Tomorrow??TOMATO/TOMOTTO!!
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Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 12:15:12 +0300
From: "Khalid M. Baheyeldin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Tape drive technology recommendation?
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.periphs
Yes, it works and it is fast. Definitely faster than Tape.
However, there are two issues that anyone trying to do this should
be aware of:
1. This is not a removable medium, and there fore cannot be an off-site
backup solution. If the machine caught fire, or some buggy driver
scrambles the disks, you lost your original data AND the backup!
2. You cannot have "generations" of backups (e.g. last week, the week
before, last month, end-of-year, ...etc.), unless you really have
a large disk.
3. Cost per Megabyte for tape is cheaper.
4. You cannot use a hard disk for convenient data transfer between
machines.
Of course, all life is a list of tradeoffs. As long as you know the
limitation(s) of what you are doing, you're OK.
A Jaz drive would be better than a hard disk, but it has a high cost per
megabyte, and "only" 1 or 2 GB.
Bill Pitz wrote:
>
> In general SCSI tapes work OK with linux. Although I did try a new idea not
> too long ago for backups. I purchased a 10GB IDE hard drive and popped it
> into the machine. Once a day, I have that drive spin itself up, copy over all
> of the data (would also work fine with compression). It works, it's just as
> reliable as tapes, and it's faster. :)
>
> Bill
>
> Stephan Loescher wrote:
>
> > Hi!
> >
> > I'm going to buy a SCSI-tape drive. The capacity should be about 10GB
> > without compression. It should have hardware-compression (and run with
> > Linux).
> >
> > I'm interested in any experiences, advantages, disadvantages, performance,
> > reliability, durability of all tape drive-technologies:
> > 4mm DAT, 8mm DAT, DLT, MLR, SLR, QIC, Travan, NS20. (Others?)
> > How does SLR, MLR, DLT and Travan work? And what are the differences?
> >
> > Is Travan-5 and NS20 the same?
> >
> > Are SLR/MLR-tape drives produced by other companies than Tandberg, too?
> >
> > How often can I reuse the tapes with the different technologies?
> > I heard that DAT(4mm/8mm) can be used about 10 times and the other
> > technologies can overwrite the tape 100 times before having dropouts.
> >
> > Thanks in advance for any information!
> >
> > Stephan.
> >
> > --
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > http://www.leo.org/~loescher/
> > Try the LEO-archive: http://www.leo.org/archiv/archiv_e.html
--
Khalid M. Baheyeldin
Senior IT Consultant
Remove all the X characters in my e-mail address to reply
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From: Traci Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Micron Milleneum 450 Max and Linux?
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 03:26:49 -0700
Has anyone had any experience installing Linux on the current Micron
Milleneum 450 Max boxes? They are a Pentium II based system with some
fairly capable components and I was wondering how much trouble one of
them would be if I wanted it to be a completely Linux box?
Traci
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From: Traci Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Micron Millenium 450 Max and Linux?
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 03:28:29 -0700
Has anyone had any experience installing Linux on the current Micron
Millenium 450 Max boxes? They are a Pentium II based system with some
fairly capable components and I was wondering how much trouble one of
them would be if I wanted it to be a completely Linux box?
Traci
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (LinuxCyrix)
Subject: Re: WHEE!!!! Linux on an 386 (for real) w/ 4M
Date: 30 Dec 1998 10:31:49 GMT
heehee... There's ONE little prob with zdisk, tho.. <snicker> .. I don't have a
regular floppy on my good machine !!! lol.. all I got is a measly ol' LS-120...
: ) zdisk don't do those... hey wait.. this is Linux... I kin change zdisk...
: )
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (LinuxCyrix)
Subject: Re: WHEE!!!! Linux on an 386 (for real) w/ 4M
Date: 30 Dec 1998 10:32:44 GMT
oh yeah.. heehee .. no X involved !
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Getting soundcard work
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 09:39:34 GMT
What can I do with this setup ? : On my computer i have to sound cards - and
old (but still one of the best) SB AWE32, and a new (but still lousy) 16bit
Opti933 (no hardware wavetable). I'm using it succesfully under Win95 (the
opti is PnP, the SB is ofcourse not). can I setup linux to use a similar
configuration as in win95 ? (I'm using the opti to play MP3, and the SB for
all the rest of the sound gigs)
Oded
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Newbie need help !
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 09:31:09 GMT
Hello all ! I'm a newbie to linux and I like to ask a few questions.. aif any
one help, I'll appreciate if you mail me, but replying to this group will be
ok too. I'm running RedHat 5.1 on a P2-300 with 64Mb ram and a RivaTNT card.;
hard disk is partitioned part Win95 VFAT32 and part ext2.
Here are the questions :
1. I have my cd in /dev/hdc, and _most_ times linux doesn't recognize it
(I've installed by booting from that cd) if I put something (cd or hdd) on
/dev/hdb, it recognize my cd with no problems, but if not, it sometimes (once
in alot of boots) recognize it, sometimes not and in the messages at boot
time I see something like : ide2 : ports in use - no probe. and sometimes it
acts normally, no messages, and no cd. is it normal ? 2. I'm using AfterStep
(version 1.4 or something, how can I tell?) and I used to have a list of
windows at the top of the screen , a litlte similar in function to the win95
taskbar, and it's not there lately - how can I bring it back ? 3. is there a
way to write, in linux programs like emacs, in languages other than english ?
I mean languages totaly diffrent in fonts, like hebrew or russian ? 4. how
can I make linux read the VFAT's long file names ? 5. where can I find a
monitor that can display network traffic (I have an internal modem and using
dial-up ppp) like the win95 dialer ? 6. somtimes when I try to right in a
text box (especially in Midnight commander) , any character I write after the
first one is written from right to left ! (for exmple - I try to write
'true', and what comes out is 'teur'). is this normal ? 7. how can I make
mutiplie folders in AfterStep's wharf (like the folder containing the nxterm
and netscape ? I can add stuff to that, but I couldn't figure out how to make
another folder like it). 8. can I run scripts from the buttons in the Wharf ?
how do I make the command line look like ?
Thanks for any help you can give.]
Oded
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From: "Marcos A. Gallego" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Micro Star mother board MS-5169
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 08:43:47 -0200
Hello friends,
Does anyone know if Linux can run with the Micro Star motherboards
MS-5169?
Thanks to everyone.
// Marcos
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From: Marc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
linux.redhat.install,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Want to do direct install of Redhat 5.2 via FTP since I have Cox@home but
am stuck in the DUNGEONS OF DOOM !!! SO HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELP !!!
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 03:41:42 GMT
www.linuxcentral.com get GPL version of Red hat,,,(I reccomend the Mandrake
versiuon if tehy have it) GPL cd costs about three bucks..........
THE DUNGEONS OF DOOOOOOOOOOM wrote:
> Hi. i do apologize if my message sounds a bit too long but at least
> you all will be able to figure out the sticky problem I'm stuck with
> and may even know how to help me out of it. I currently am running
> Windows 98 on one hard disk. However, since it is 7.5 GB and it's
> 32-bit, Linux won't recognize it when I first install Linux. At least
> that's what I have been told and eventually found out. Besides, sure I
> can download 500 MB in 2 hrs without any trouble via my cable modem,
> but I would still need to copy it to a CD-R or CD-RW disc or something
> and I'm not gonna pay $200 - $400 for CD-R/RW (in case you all wanted
> to know why I would not prefer to copy to a storage device and then
> install). I'm not sure if Linux will do it off my zip disks if I copy
> linux to 6 zip discs. In any case, these wonderful people keep on
> changing the versions of RH Linux. Therefore having got fed up with
> it, I looked in the book which talked about RH Linux and how to
> install. Well, I had versions 3 and 4 of RH but since some of my
> crucial hardware at that time could not be recognized I abandoned RH
> until I finally found out that if I had a direct connection with
> Cox@home just like corporations and universities that have a direct
> connection with their T1, T3, OC-3, etc... server, then you don't even
> have to download RH linux. All you really have to download are the
> boot.img and supp.img files and transfer them to two blank but
> formatted 3.5" high density disks. So I did just that and booted up my
> machine and when I got to the installation method option, I chose ftp
> method. When I got to the ethernet card question, I 3c509 driver. By
> the way, I still have the 3c509b PnP 16-bit Ethernet adaptor which I
> obtained when I used to attend another university. Rather than sell
> it, I kept it for something like a cable modem. In fact that same
> ethernet card I had was part of the requirements for my cable modem
> installation. Anyway, RH Linux never in the past had any trouble
> recognizing my ethernet card. The only trouble was recognizing my
> video cards,my parallel port zip drive, and my higher capacity hard
> drive. here, in 5.2 that was not the problem. however, when I got to
> the options of DHCP, BOOTP, and Static Address, I chose the Static
> option and filled in my fields correctly. However, I got an error
> message saying unable to connect to host. I fully verified the ftp
> site address and typed it correctly. So I then went back and tried the
> other two options only to get the "no response" error message from
> bootp and dhcp. So the question still remains, isn't it possible to
> install via ftp with cox@home and if so, how and what configurations
> are to be made during installation?
>
> Please post a reply to this message. I've had to switch ISPs in the
> past due to people spamming and framing my acount(s).
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: "Jakub Chmielewski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: AMD k-6 & external cache failure
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 10:58:23 GMT
Hi!
I've just heard a rumour that amd k6-2 (fsb 100mhz) has problems on various
mobos, with external cache - i.e. it should be disabled in linux (and
**win95**).
Is this TRUE??? ;-((( If so, which mobos are the bad ones?
Thanks for help,
Jakub Chmielewski
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Subject: Re: External Modem Question.
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rob Clark)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 03:43:14 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Dae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I can't remember where I may have read this, but from what I remember
>there were some external modems that did not work on Linuex. These
>modems ran on sometype of Rockwell Chipset.
These would be Rockwell RPI chipsets: sort of a forerunner of the
Winmodem. AFAIK these modems aren't being made anymore.
>If it is true, does anyone know if this modem (NewCom 56K/V.90 Dual Mode
>External Modem w/Spkrphn) will work with Linux?
The web page says the modem is compatible with DOS. This is a Good Sign.
Really, any newer, serial, external modem should work.
Interestingly, the 56efxC modem from NewCom lists Linux as one of the
compatible operating systems.
Rob Clark, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.o2.net/~gromitkc/winmodem.html
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Tapestore 8000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 30 Dec 1998 03:46:50 GMT
Do I need a special driver for a Tapestore 8000 and if so, where can I find it?
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