Linux-Hardware Digest #588, Volume #9 Sun, 7 Mar 99 01:13:37 EST
Contents:
Re: Modem configuring (Mircea)
Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing? ("David A. Frantz")
Re: Help with external IDSN pls (childsplay)
Re: Power Down with Linux? (Axel Liljencrantz)
Re: Sound Blaster Live! (Axel Liljencrantz)
Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing? ("David A. Frantz")
Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing? ("David A. Frantz")
Re: BEST HW For Linux NoteBook Project ("David A. Frantz")
FS: 4 Digital VT-340-A2 Color Graphical Terminals (Kent Rankin)
Re: mem=128M hangs system (Collin Bennett)
Fixed Frequnecy video card support on a PC (NeoSoftSys)
Re: hdd problems (Kyle Gonzales)
Re: Is the are a TV tuner program that will work with linux? (Misha Pavlov)
Re: AMD K6-2 300 ("Jay T. Millar")
PCI modem!! ("Andrew Shiue")
Re: dhcpd.conf (s. keeling)
WinFast S320 AGP driver (Vincent Tong)
Re: Computer locks up when playing 16-bit sound (Vibra16C)
RedHat 5.2 installation VIDEO PROBLEMS ("Scott Sullivan")
Re: Linux w/ ARO-1130U2 RAIDPort (on L440GX+) ("Tim (TJ) Snider")
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From: Mircea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Modem configuring
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 20:46:32 -0500
Here's my init string for V1456VQE, from pppscript:
AT&FE0V1W2&C1&D2S95=47
MST
John L. Spetz wrote:
>
> I bought a Phoebe CMV1456VQE external modem ($89) after finally
> giving up on using my PCI modem.
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From: "David A. Frantz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing?
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 1999 23:14:43 -0500
Johan;
Johan Kullstam wrote in message ...
>"David A. Frantz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> Hi Johan;
>>
>>
>> Johan Kullstam wrote in message ...
>> >if you want *identical* results, most of the problem is the
>> >bletcherous 80 bit float mode of the x86. are you using gcc/g77? you
>> >are aware that they spill the 80 bit registers into 64 temporaries.
>> >thus small changes in the code or fiddling with optimization switches
>> >can cause spillage in different places and hence small changes in the
>> >results.
>>
>> 80 bit floats are not a bad thing, it is bad for a compiler not to use
them
>> correctly.
>
>well, one of the problems is the intel memory model will punish you
>hard for using 10 byte variables. they do not fit cleanly on 8 byte
>boundaries.
It is the programmers responsibility to select the correct representation
for his data. Some times 80 bit values cna be a solution to a problem.
But you are right they don't fit into anbodies arch. well.
>
>> >intel should simply be avoided for any serious numerical work.
>>
>> Hmm thats down right mean. Intel should be avioded when it does fit
the
>> application domain. What you might want to say is that Intel is not a
>> cost effective way to do serious FP work. Even a farm of Intel
machines
>> are questionable for some applications.
>
>maybe. it's just that the intel x86 suffers from a number of
>problems. the register starvation of the integer side is another
>hindrance.
This is the whole problem with Intel they never seem to grasp the need for
programmer accessible registers. Wether FP or integer, I386 is a little
thin, but for some applications the performance can be OK.
>
>i've used many intel chips over a number of years. i am not impressed
>with the architechture. they are innexpensive and ubiquitous. the
>performance is reasonably good, since intel has a lot of money they
>can throw at improving it.
Actually they really haven't been doing all that well at improving I386.
AMD has far fewer resources and is able to be very competitive so one would
have to wonder where all of Intels money is going. The reality is that
they are slipping technology wise, they don't even have a process to compete
with IBM-Motorolas copper processes.
>
>--
> J o h a n K u l l s t a m
> [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Don't Fear the Penguin!
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From: childsplay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Help with external IDSN pls
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 19:08:50 -0600
Well i have all that your talking about, everything is fine under win98. the modem
comes with the multilinkPPP software
just can't get linux to get it to use both channels. With win98 there isn't a
problem, both channels turn on fine. and i run at 115k but no go under linux. And
how do i send the string thur linux, where do i type/put it? and how?
thnx
Joachim Feise wrote:
> I used to have a Motorola BitSurfr external ISDN modem, where I got this feature
> to work.
> The feature you need is called multi-link PPP.
> First, your ISP must support it. Most of them do, but they charge more for it.
> Second, the modem must have a setting to switch to ML-PPP. My BitSurfr had. Look
> in your modem docs to find out about that.
> You then send the string to switch the modem to ML-PPP as part of the modem init
> string.
>
> -Joe
>
> childsplay wrote:
> >
> > ok, to anyone who can help with isdn pls do. I got my network and ip
> > masquerading working. but it only works on one b channer not both? Is
> > there anything i can do to force it to use both b channels? both work
> > fine under windows. Just can't get them to work under linux. Its a
> > external 3com Impact IQ and 115k or 230k with hi speed serial port
> > *which i do NOT have* just trying to get my 115k going. any suggestions
> > will be greatly appriciated.
> > p.s. i'm a newbie and still new to commands and such. if your gonna
> > offer any commands to fix this please be spicific.
> >
> > thnx in advance.
> >
> > --
> > Charles "childsplay" VanDyke
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > ICQ# 14539920 ============
> > ]TeamGameSpy[ ============
> > http://www.gamespy.com ===
>
> --
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> Joachim Feise Ph.D. Student, Information & Computer Science
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ics.uci.edu/~jfeise/
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> Linux renders ships, NT is rendering ships useless.
--
Charles "childsplay" VanDyke
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ICQ# 14539920 ============
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http://www.gamespy.com ===
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From: Axel Liljencrantz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Power Down with Linux?
Date: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 03:03:30 +0100
"Keith A. Folske" wrote:
> How do I get linux to power down my pc like windows98 does? I have an ATX
> capable power supply. When I choose shutdown in windows, it turns power
> off.
> I have been using "shutdown -h now" in linux, but that only halts the system
> and does not remove power. Anyone know how to accomplish this?
>
> Thanks,
> Keith
>
> --
> Keith A. Folske
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Try enabling APM and the "Power down on shutdown" option in the Kernel
configuration, then recompile the kernel. Theoretically this should do it,
though it didn't do the trick for me. I'd be VERY intrested to know Your
results on this, to see if i should pursuit this further.
/Axel Liljencrantz
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From: Axel Liljencrantz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Sound Blaster Live!
Date: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 03:12:24 +0100
"J. P." wrote:
> On 26 Feb 1999, Andreas Hofmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >A SB Live does not emulate any other soundcard by hardware. so your linux
> >box will be silent until you add a second soundcard.
> >a SB Awe64 gold and a SB Live work together quiet well. the awe are
> >supported including the wavetable
>
> Ah so!? This means that what I saw on the Win98 was just a driver that
> emulated SB-16 on SB Live!
>
> Thanks for that correction,
> Joe
Using loadlin, couldn't one start the emulation driver to put the live-card in
SB-16 mode, and THEN boot Linux?
I've heard of people doing this for other cards...
/Axel Liljencrantz
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From: "David A. Frantz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing?
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 1999 23:22:41 -0500
Johan Kullstam wrote in message ...
>Robert Krawitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> "David A. Frantz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>> > I think you hit on one problem at the very least and that is if you
want to
>> > get away from I386 you have only one other mass produced platform and
that
>> > is Apples Mac. When dealling with software I do not think binary
>> > compatablity is s big deal for Linux users. After all if you want to
run
>> > something you can just recompile it.
>>
>> For better or for worse, the latter statement is not true, and it's
>> becoming less and less true. If your goal is to run Oracle, Informix,
>> DB/2, Sybase, or what have you, binary compatibility is essential.
>
>true. but to exploit a 36 bit address space in order to use more than
>4 GB on a xeon, would require recompiling those applications. so your
>program falls into two buckets:
>
>1) something which you can port or find a port of for linux alpha or
> sparc solaris &c.
>
>2) something which exists only in binary format on i386 linux.
>
>now in case 1, you can use the 64 bit processor. in case 2, you
>can't, but neither can you exploit over 4 GB.
>
>therefore, there is no point in trying to make a far pointer memory
>model for linux on the x86. should you need big memory, just use
>a 64 bit platform.
Clearly Stated! pick the processor that fits the application and
everything becomes much simpler.
>
>--
> J o h a n K u l l s t a m
> [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Don't Fear the Penguin!
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From: "David A. Frantz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing?
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 1999 23:30:58 -0500
Hi Robert;
Robert Krawitz wrote in message ...
>Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> Robert Krawitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> > That interpretation is simply incorrect. Virtual addresses (which are
>> > the only kind that normal instructions ever deal with in protected
>> > mode) are 32 bits wide, just as in all x86 processors from the 80386
>> > on up. The processor (in hardware, by referring to the page tables)
>> > translates these virtual addresses into physical memory addresses.
>> > It's immaterial how wide the physical address bus is. The physical
>> > address bus could be 20 bits wide (not that I'd care to use such a
>> > machine), or 32 bits wide, or 40 bits wide. The kernel sets up the
>> > mapping between virtual addresses and physical memory; the processor
>> > actually performs the mapping in hardware, and the user code never
>> > knows the difference.
>>
>> riddle me this, how can i have more than 4 GB of data accessible from
>> one program?
>
>You can't (via direct memory addressing), but suppose I want to have
>several dozen memory-hungry processes all running concurrently? This
>is not normally the case for desktop systems, and is seldom a problem
>for http servers and such, but for heavy commercial data processing,
>with parallel databases, it's a perfectly normal state of affairs.
>Folks, the issue is not the single-process VM limit, it's the total
>amount of memory available to all processes in the system!
Actually I thought the whole discussion was about single process
limitations. Even if thats not the case if you need to address a large
amount of RAM, more ram that can be accessed on a 32 bit address bus then
you might as well progress to 64bits. Trying to support 36 bits of
addressable RAM for a large number of 32 bit processes is a waste of time,
MANY other solutions exist. 36bit addressing is a solution for a
marketing department that doesn't have a real competitve solution.
Dave
>
>--
>Robert Krawitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.tiac.net/users/rlk/
>
>Tall Clubs International -- http://www.tall.org/ or 1-888-IM-TALL-2
>Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>"Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works."
>--Eric Crampton
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From: "David A. Frantz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.portable,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: BEST HW For Linux NoteBook Project
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 1999 23:54:38 -0500
Hi Robert;
Robert Billing wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>David Fox wrote:
>
>> You could get a Pentium 233MMX thinkpad 560X from Micro Warehouse for
>> $1299.
>
> Look, chaps, if you are going to crosspost to uk.comp.os.linux, could
>we have the prices in sterling as well please? Btw I have just picked up
>a Libretto, that runs Linux very well, for �600 (that's about $1000).
The GreenBack, the American Dollar, is ubiquitous. It should be as
familiar as the rising sun in any first world country, second and third
world I'm not to sure about.
dave
>
>--
>I am Robert Billing, Christian, inventor, traveller, cook and animal
>lover, I live near 0:46W 51:22N. http://www.tnglwood.demon.co.uk/
>"Bother," said Pooh, "Eeyore, ready two photon torpedoes and lock
>phasers on the Heffalump, Piglet, meet me in transporter room three"
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From: Kent Rankin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To:
misc.forsale.computers.workstation,comp.terminals,comp.sys.dec,comp.os.vms
Subject: FS: 4 Digital VT-340-A2 Color Graphical Terminals
Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 04:42:28 GMT
These units are located in Knoxville, TN, 37922-3449. They are as
follows:
4 DEC VT340-A2
Color Screens
Larger than usual screen
Dual session
Printer port
Multilanguage support
Sixel(and, I think ReGis) graphics
support
Mouse port
Just make me an offer on them. Whenever I post these things, I
always get tons of people that have needed them for a long time for some
app that they have.
-Kent Rankin
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From: Collin Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: mem=128M hangs system
Date: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 02:14:07 GMT
Try using 131072K instead of 128M. I read some where that K is better than
M.
Chris Menzel wrote:
> We have just upgraded a server to a PC-100 Super7 100MHz board with a
> K6-2/350 and 128MB of RAM. There is one SCSI drive with an Adaptec
> AHA-2940 controller. We are running Redhat 5.2. After booting, we
> noticed that the system was only seeing 64MB of RAM. Accordingly, we
> added append="mem=128M" to lilo.conf, ran lilo, and rebooted. However,
> the system would then hang in the boot process at the point where it is
> reading the RAM disk that (for reasons I haven't bothered to understand,
> being an IDE guy) is needed as part of the boot process with a SCSI
> drive. Removing the append line and rerunning lilo fixes the hang
> problem, but of course Linux once again only sees 64MB. The same
> problem arises if we simply add mem=128M as an option at the LILO
> prompt.
>
> Any help or suggestions appreciate.
>
> Chris Menzel
> Texas A&M University
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NeoSoftSys)
Subject: Fixed Frequnecy video card support on a PC
Date: 6 Mar 1999 02:20:59 GMT
I have a few 20" Sun monitors, but they require fixed-frequency video cards.
What cards are support fixed-frequency on a PC/Linux system? Can't I use
something like a Matrox or soem other card where I can controll all settings of
the card?
Please cc me your post.
Also, has anyone tried 2 fixed-frequency cards in one PC for a dual-headed
display?
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From: Kyle Gonzales <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: hdd problems
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 21:20:47 -0500
Hi Matt,
Do you have UDMA enabled on the motherboard? On my motherboard, when UDMA
is enabled, and I try to partition the drive with Disk Druid or fdisk, it
destroyed all existing partitions. The only thing I could do is disable UDMA
on the drive, and repartition the drive. DOS fdisk knows about the partitions,
but can't touch them.
Hope that helps
Kyle Gonzales
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Matthew Taulke-johnson wrote:
> hi there,
>
> total newbie here, first off i attempted to put a linux (rh 5.2) partition
> and a linux swap parttiton both on my 2.6gig slave. for some reason it
> failed and i am now left with a dud drive. i read somewhere else in this
> newsgroup that a sililar problem was occuring with another person that had
> seemingly done the same thing. my 2.6gig is now rendered useless as the
> linux partitioning programs (disk druid and linux fdisk) cannot pick it up,
> however the dos fdisk can pick it up but no changes to the partition can be
> made. i don;t want to lose 2.6 gig overnight without a fight!! any help
> whatsoever would be appreciated.
>
> matthew
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From: Misha Pavlov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is the are a TV tuner program that will work with linux?
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 21:26:39 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
So you have ATI video card with bt848 card, right ?
If so, what kind of ATI card ?
Did you have to do anything special to make xtvscreen comming up right ?
I am getting a lot of white noise / lines and can see bad-bad shades of
a TV programm without any sound. I suspect it's an address conflict, or
smthng.
Christopher James Smith wrote:
>
> There is an easy way round this:
>
> Get a cheap bt848 card from somewhere. You can get them in PC World in
> the UK for about 50 pounds. Then use bttv and xawtv!
>
> I had a separate ATI TV card but the basic system is the same. It
> happily coexists with the bt848 card.
>
> I even have had two bt848 cards running in my box alongside the ATI
>
> Try it!
>
> Chris Smith
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> > On Wed, 3 Mar 1999, Jeff Volckaert wrote:
>
> > There was alot of chatter a while back about ATI not releasing the specs for
> > the card. I think your out of luck.
> >
> > I had my eye on the all-in-wonder but bought a hauppauge tuner card instead
> > and love it.
> >
> > Jeff Volckaert
> >
> > Zane The Insane wrote in message ...
> > >I have a ATI All-in-wonder video card, that has a tv tuner. I'm looking
> > for
> > >a program that will let me use this funcution of my video card in linux.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
--
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--Misha Pavlov.
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From: "Jay T. Millar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: AMD K6-2 300
Date: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 02:42:27 +0000
Ross Harper wrote:
>
> Will Linux run on my AMD K6-2 3D-Now! chip?
>
> If anyone knows please post or contact me, thanx
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Surely!
I'm running the 2.0.35 kernel on mine right now. Here's how it looks in
/proc/cpuinfo:
processor : 0
cpu : 586
model : AMD-K6(tm) 3D processor @ 300.68MHz +/- 0.01MHz
vendor_id : AuthenticAMD
stepping : A
fdiv_bug : no
hlt_bug : no
f00f_bug : no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception : yes
cpuid : yes
wp : yes
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr mce cx8 syscr mmx 3dnow
bogomips : 599.65
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From: "Andrew Shiue" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: PCI modem!!
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 09:45:18 -0500
Hi, there,
I had a winmodem and got troubles in LINUX. I knew that it's impossible to
have it work in LINUX now, so I decided to buy a new one.
I have just check the "Red Hat Linux Hardware Compatibility List for Intel",
but I can only find out what models are incompatible!
Could somebody tell me which model will be excellent in LINUX (at least
works normally!)?
Thanks a lot.
Andy Shiue
CISE , University of Florida
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (s. keeling)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.caldera,alt.os.linux,alt.linux.sux,alt.linux
Subject: Re: dhcpd.conf
Date: 05 Mar 1999 19:47:22 -0700
"TURBO1010" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Thanks for the help, I got it working. I would like to know how to keep
> dhcpd from assigning an IP address to the win95 computers unless they have a
I don't know how Linux dhcp works, sorry. But at work, we list MAC
addresses in dhcp's data files. And as they're pc's too, we define
them to dns so nslookup knows what they're looking at.
I don't yet really grok dhcp; just passing my experiences along.
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED] TopQuark Software & Serv. Enquire within.
Contract programmer, server bum.
Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
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From: Vincent Tong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: WinFast S320 AGP driver
Date: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 09:11:40 +0800
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi,
Can anyone tell me where can get the WinFast S320 driver for Linux?
Thank you !
Vincent
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Computer locks up when playing 16-bit sound (Vibra16C)
Date: 7 Mar 1999 05:26:36 GMT
In comp.os.linux.hardware [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> According to Franck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Everything seems to run smootly, the card is correctly detected,
> > configured, and the sound drivers are loaded without any problem. I can
> > play 8-bit sounds. BUT any time I play a 16-bit sound (with "play"), the
> > computer locks up. Usually, I can hear the beginning of the sound, and
> > then ... nothing. :-(
> >
> > I've read that the Vibra16X was not a real 16-bit card, but I have a
> > Vibra16C !
> Have you tried to configure it using just one 8-bit DMA? I've got the
> 16X and that's how mine works. It *does* seem to accept 16-bit
> samples just fine through the 8-bot DMA channel.
The ALSA documentation has a special note to say that the Vibra16X
is too weird for them to support and that it does ONLY allow 8 bit
DMA. Forget about 16 bit DMA with this card.
I have a Vibra16C which ALSA does support no problems.
- Tel
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From: "Scott Sullivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RedHat 5.2 installation VIDEO PROBLEMS
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 1999 20:56:31 -0800
I am trying to install RedHat Linux 5.2 and after I select my monitor type
it goes on to do some video testing...it says the "screen may flciker a few
times...that is normal"
My problem is the screen flickers once and then blank screen and the whole
installation process halts and i have to reboot. I've tried re-installing
many times with the same outcome. Please give me any info at all on this.
Thanks
Scott
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Tim (TJ) Snider" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux w/ ARO-1130U2 RAIDPort (on L440GX+)
Date: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 21:52:15 -0800
I'm also interested in the same question for my Tyan 1696 DLUA...
Thanks,
TJ
==========
In article <kHmE2.3674$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Dan"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I'd like to use hardware RAID with my Linux webserver. The new Intel board
>L440GX+ has dual channel SCSI onboard (AIC-7896), and supports a 0 channel
>add-on board called the ARO-1130 RAIDPort from Adaptec. This will give me
>striping and mirroring etc. I've ordered the system, but realized I had
>better make sure there are drivers available.
>
>Will Linux support this configuration? Thanks much!
>
>--
>DReed - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
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