Linux-Hardware Digest #802, Volume #9 Sun, 21 Mar 99 22:13:31 EST
Contents:
Re: Does anybody have a Socket7 motherboard that they'll sell? (Harry McGregor)
Re: modem config problems (peter_man)
Re: Viper & SCSI problems (Ken Witherow)
Re: Linux modem users- success info needed (peter_man)
Re: Migrating RH Linux 5.2 to new hard drive (Akira Yamanita)
Hewlett Packard 5100C Programming Info (Stephen Manley)
Re: WARNING: Kingston KNE100TX *without* Tuplip chipset! :( (Sami Yousif)
Re: PPro 200 w/ 256K vs. Celeron 333A (Raymond McLaughlin)
Re: Hard drive partitions for Redhat 5.2?? (DaZZa)
Re: PPro 200 w/ 256K vs. Celeron 333A (Johan Kullstam)
Re: Howto compile 2.2 Kernel with redhat 5.2 - for beginners, installing, windows
users etc (SillyBilly)
Re: Which processor (Mircea)
Re: Which processor (Mircea)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Harry McGregor)
Crossposted-To: misc.forsale.computers.net-hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Does anybody have a Socket7 motherboard that they'll sell?
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 01:26:41 GMT
I might be able to help you, shoot me an email, and we can discuss
this further.
Harry
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From: peter_man <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: modem config problems
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 01:28:36 GMT
if you get modem locked messege, try
ls -l /var/lock
to see if you got any fils like: LCK...modem, if you have, delete it,then try your
modem again
Peter
Allen wrote:
> Possibly, your modem is good in a manner of speaking, but good for what? Is it
> a PCI modem? There are only 2 I've even heard of that were "TRUE"
> hardware-based modems, and the rest of the PCI modems were Linux incompatible
> "win"modem act-alikes. check at this website to see if your modem is listed :
>
> http://www.o2.net/~gromitkc/winmodem.html
>
> And next post, please include your hardware info? Model #s etc. serial ports
> in use, how configured...
>
> On Thu, 11 Mar 1999 13:44:38 -0600, Tim and Rachel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >I recently installed Caldera's OpenLinux 1.3 on my Gateway Pentium Pro
> >200. Everything seems to work but the modem. Despite my best efforts
> >to decode the limited instructions for setting up KDE's "kppp" program,
> >I still cannot talk to my modem. Continually get "modem busy" or "modem
> >locked" error messages. The modem works fine w/win95 so I'm pretty sure
> >my h/w is good. Any thoughts as what I should do?
> >
>
> Allen
>
> (email addy; user ID portion has a numeral one in place of word
> onespoiler, and of course, delete the bogus secondary domain of nospam.)
> PC/hardware Guru, and Linux Newbie--(how DO you exit vi?)
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From: Ken Witherow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Viper & SCSI problems
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 20:32:16 -0500
"Jagermy$ter" wrote:
> - 1st of all, my SCSI adaptor isn't supported by RH 5.2. So that's it? Won't
> work? Is there a sollution for this one?
the 2.2.3 kernel has support for the 152x series. I don't know if the
1510 is compatable with it at all. If I remember correctly, adaptec
wasn't very forthcoming with specs so drivers could be written.
> - 2nd problem is the biggest one. How on earth can I get a decent view in X
> Windows? My graphics card isn't supported, so I tried to configure it
> manualy. But the only view I can manage to work, is 16 color, 640x480. And
> most of all, everyting on the screen is way to big!
get the upgrade to 3.3.3 from updates.redhat.com
> - 3d problem: Is there a good CD-burning program for Linux?
look for cdrecord (command line) or xcdroast (xwin)
--
Ken Witherow
Keeper of the alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica FAQ
http://www.frontiernet.net/~phantoml/armm.html
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From: peter_man <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux modem users- success info needed
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 01:48:19 GMT
I am using OpenLinux, SupraExpress 336i pnp voice works under OpenLinux
1.2
Rob Clark wrote:
> This is a message regarding a Linux/modem web page at:
> http://www.o2.net/~gromitkc/winmodem.html
>
> Thanks to all of you who have supported this page in the past,
> it was mentioned in a ZDnet article this week; and the server hits
> have skyrocketed.
>
> I'm a little bit worried that there are too few modems identified
> as "OK," though. I've been very conservative about marking modems
> "OK"-- generally only modems tested by Linux users make the cut.
>
> If you are using a modem with Linux, please check the list to see
> if I am missing any information on your modem.
>
> Thanks for your help!
> Rob Clark, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Akira Yamanita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.questions,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Migrating RH Linux 5.2 to new hard drive
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 01:47:18 GMT
David Gochfeld wrote:
> > You will also need to properly install lilo on the machine (I strongly
> > recommend creating a bootdisk with the proper kernel and initrd on it while you
> > still have your old hd up and running, then reboot with the disk giving it the
> > root=/dev/sdxN. If all goes well, reconfigure lilo, run it, and you should be
> > in business.
>
> So here's the question -- how do you reconfigure lilo so it installs itself
> properly
> in the MBR of the new drive (especially when the old drive is still mounted on the
> system)?
Edit /etc/lilo.conf and make sure that the boot partitions are specified properly.
ie. pointing to the right partition on the right drive. hda1 is the first partition
on the first drive, hda2 is the second partition on the first drive, etc. If you're
installing a master drive, it should be as simple as changing hda# to hdb#, hdb# to
hdc#, etc. Once that's done, run lilo. If there's more involved than just changing
the drive specification in /etc/lilo.conf, someone will say so. :-)
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From: Stephen Manley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Hewlett Packard 5100C Programming Info
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 22:09:36 -0500
Hi there.. I own a HP 5100C scanner, and currently there's no support
for this (or other parallel port based scanners) under linux. Now,
I am aware that this uses a parallel scsi interface rather than some
oddball connection, so there may be hope..
Does anyone have specs on this scanner or know who I should contact
at HP to get hardware specifications on this? Is anyone working on a
driver?
I'm willing to throw a couple weekends into this, but I haven't done
any device drivers for Linux (yet).
--
Steve Manley
http://www.nyx.net/~smanley
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From: Sami Yousif <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: WARNING: Kingston KNE100TX *without* Tuplip chipset! :(
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 20:03:31 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> We've got four Kingston KNE100TX fast ethernet cards in four PCs, all of
> which use the Digital Tulip chipset, and all of which work beautifully. We
> needed a fifth, so we ordered another of the same card.
been there....
>
> The card came. It claims to be model number KNE100TX. However, it doesn't
> use the Tulip chipset! The chip is an Intel 21143-FD. We tried it with the
> Tulip driver, and in fact it doesn't work.
Which version of the driver? which kernel? SMP or no SMP?
>
> (The sticker on the box "IMPORTANT! Works only with Driver Diskette
> Ver. 6.0 or above", should have tipped me off.)
>
> I really hate it when companies completely change the hardware, but don't
> change the model number. It makes it impossible to order from salespeople
> the hardware that you really want. (I guess Kingston figures that they are
> shipping a windows driver with the card, so the user doesn't need to know if
> there is different hardware with the same model number.)
I see that you have also experianced the "but its the same model" dillema...:-(
>
> At any rate, if you are purchasing a Kingston KNE100TX ethernet card,
> beware. You may not be getting what you think you are getting.
>
> (This card may work with another driver, but we're using it in a cluster.
> It would be a real hassle to have one computer with a different
> configuration for the rest, so we need to get a Tulip card for that last
> computer.)
BUT....
Intel bought out Digital's Network line including the DEC21143 line, so the card
may really be a tulip that needs a newer driver from the cesdis site.
http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/linux/drivers/tulip.html for lots of tulip info...
The latest test driver is v.90q
http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/linux/drivers/test/tulip.c
The "stable" driver is v.90
http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/linux/drivers/tulip.c
You may also find the Tulip mailing list archive at
http://www.tux.org/hypermail/linux-tulip/ useful....
--
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From: Raymond McLaughlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.comp.hardware.overclocking
Subject: Re: PPro 200 w/ 256K vs. Celeron 333A
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 21:43:59 -0500
Johan Kullstam wrote:
> <snip> the celery
> runs its cache at cpu clock speed (not 1/2 speed like the pii/iii).
>
> let's see, the only differences (in cpu) are
>
> ppro 233MHz 256k cache
> cele 375MHz 128k cache
>
> celeron has a lot more clock speed -- 60% more! the cache is only
> half the size but you can fill it faster due to better bus, memory and
> processor speeds.
Excuse me but the P-Pro, like the cele, and unlike the PII runs its cache a cpu clock
speed.
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From: DaZZa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: aus.computers.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Hard drive partitions for Redhat 5.2??
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 13:46:55 +1100
On Mon, 22 Mar 1999, Aaron Saikovski wrote:
> I have a 2.2GB drive partitioned into the following:
>
> 127Mb - Swap partition
> 500Mb - /
> 1087Mb - /usr
> 300Mb - /home
>
> (These are from memory and not exact sizes)
>
> Instead of the above can I have the following partitions?
>
> 127Mb - partition
> Rest of the drive as one big linux partition??
>
> Will redhat 5.2 install into a single partition?
Short answer - yes to both questions.
Longer answer - yes, but be aware of the potential problems you can
introduce if you do so.
The original way, if you fill up, say, /home - then you _only_ lock out
other users than root, not the root user or any system daemons.
If you fill /home with one big partition, you potentially lock out
_everything_ until you do some cleanup, because you've filled the entire
drive.
I've got machines with both schemes - it just depends what you want to DO
with them as to how efective each one is.
DaZZa
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Crossposted-To: alt.comp.hardware.overclocking
Subject: Re: PPro 200 w/ 256K vs. Celeron 333A
From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 21 Mar 1999 22:03:26 -0500
Raymond McLaughlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Johan Kullstam wrote:
> > <snip> the celery
> > runs its cache at cpu clock speed (not 1/2 speed like the
> > pii/iii).
> >
> > let's see, the only differences (in cpu) are
> >
> > ppro 233MHz 256k cache
> > cele 375MHz 128k cache
> >
> > celeron has a lot more clock speed -- 60% more! the cache is only
> > half the size but you can fill it faster due to better bus, memory and
> > processor speeds.
> Excuse me but the P-Pro, like the cele, and unlike the PII runs its
> cache a cpu clock speed.
excuse me, but didn't i just write that? thank you for leaving in the
relevant bit too. also note that the celeron's cache of 128k *is*
half the *size* of this ppro's 256k cache.
--
J o h a n K u l l s t a m
[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Don't Fear the Penguin!
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From: SillyBilly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: aus.computers.linux,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Howto compile 2.2 Kernel with redhat 5.2 - for beginners, installing,
windows users etc
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 21:46:33 -0500
-simplified redhat kernel play for newbies -
you can reinstall everything from scratch if you mess up
go read http://www-stu.calvin.edu/~clug/users/jnicho38/goto22.html
basically:
skip this ------------------------------------------------------
if you come from windows(no flames please) and are totally new to linux,
make sure you install windows dos connectivity when installing redhat..
then login as root,
type startx,
and select the control panel in administration
(or type in a terminal window /usr/bin/control-panel)
in dos this would mean c:\usr\bin\control-panel, the / is the root
directory
scroll down to the lady with the stick then go to file systems local
file systems and pick the partitions hda is your first harddrive, hdb is
the slave on the 1st ide channel, hdc is master on the second ide
channel, and the numbers after them are the partitions, the max limit
for primary partitions is 4 so the extended partitions start with 5..
.. dos/windows cannot handle more than one primary partition
you probably have /dev/hda1 as your windows partition and /dev/hdb5 as
your linux partition
select a partition hda1 from the drop down list, select vfat from the
second drop list, then as the mount point type /mnt/windisk or whatever
you prefer..
this will "mount" the windows fat partition so you can read all the
files from it in linux
you can get all this by typing
mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /mnt/windisk
then in control panel go to activate configuration and you are ready to
browse your windows files typing
cd /mnt/windisk/
dir
one more thing.. in unix caps and lowercase matters.. cd PROG is not the
same as cd prog
end skip--------------------------------------------------
- get source at www.kernel.org - i have 2.2.3 .. find the
linux-2.2.3.tar.gz and download it to your harddrive in windows
they say you should get the even ending ones(eg 2.2.2 and 2.2.4 cause
ones ending in odd, eg 2.2.1, 2.2.3, are for testing.. well i have no
probs
- get redhat 5.2 updates for 2.2 kernels at ftp.redhat.com/mirrors.html
they dont have the source only some modutils and initscripts and stuff
updates that you must must have
start linux
login as root
startx
start a terminal
- got to your linux source directory:
cd /usr/src
- delete the file called "linux", which is a soft link to your
linux-2.0.36 directory
rm linux
- move your kernel source you downloaded to /usr/src
cp /path_to/linux-2.2.3.tar.gz /usr/src
- i use kde with rightclick and archiver and extract the files from the
tar.gz source but you can do a
gzip -d *2.2.3*
tar -xvf *2.2.3*.tar
meaning gzip decompress, and if that is the only .gz file there then you
can just type gzip -d lin* to save typing .. you can do a dir *, or dir
lin* or dir lin*2.2.3* then see what programs will be affected, then the
command.. saves lotsa typing then tar xtract the decompressed gzip
file.. zip is compressing, gzip is gnu zip, tar is making one huge file
from many small ones...
- everything should be decompressed to a newly created /usr/src/linux
directory.. if we hadnt removed the softlink before.. that linux
softlink would have sent everything decompressed to it to the
linux-2.0.36 directory overwriting everything..
now rename(move) this linux directory to
mv linux linux-2.2.3
- create the soflink to this new directory (the one we deleted before
pointed to /usr/src/linux-2.0.36 directory.. make the new one like this
ln -s linux-2.2.3 linux
create link, make it soft, to linux-2.2.3, and name the link linux
the -s soft is needed otherwise the link will point to the file
locations on the harddrive node cluster, and not the file name within
the file system.. that would be a hard link.. and in case you deleted
the linux-2.2.3 directory then the hard link would still point to the
harddrive node.. the file wouldn't be really deleted
now you have the source installed..
anytime you need to recompile the kernel you just come to /usr/src/linux
(which will actually take you to /usr/src/linux-2.2.3 and type make
xconfig or make menuconfig)
install the rpm packages you downloaded
go to the download folder cd /mnt/windisk/download or whereever you put
the rpms updates you just downloaded
rpm -Uvh *.rpm
- now assuming you are in x window
start a terminal, and type
cd /usr/src/linux
make xconfig
you can also get by with "make menuconfig", or just "make config" alone
really sucks
select all you need... play around..
for some reason my modules dont load right so i didnt use any modules..
make dep
make clean
make zImage
compiling zImage(the kernel) will take a long long time..
you will see a lot of garbage on the screen.. all of it starting with
gcc and a lot of options.. gcc is the gnu c compiler.. its all really so
cool!
anyway, go get a coffee.. once that is done you have the new 2.2.3
kernel under /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/zImage
if you selected modules, also
make modules
make modules_install
cd /lib/modules
rm preferred
ln -s 2.2.3 preferred
then
cd /boot
cp /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/zImage /boot/zImage
edit your /etc/lilo.conf file by typing
cd /etc
pico lilo.conf
and find the line where it says
image =/boot/vmlinuz-2.0.36-07
label linux
insert a line before it and change the label on this second line to
look like this
image = /boot/zImage
label newlinux
image = /boot/vmlinuz-2.0.36-07
label oldlinux
the first line zImage kernel will be loaded by default, you can change
that by holding down Shift, and hitting Tab then typing oldlinux at the
LILO prompt
but first you have to update the partition boot sector by typing
lilo
this will use the lilo.conf file to update your boot info
if you are booting from a floppy, then get a new floppy and insert it
cd /usr/src/linux
make zdisk
oh i almost forgot.. if you have modules type
depmod -a
maybe this will solve my headaches with modules
well good luck :)
reboot your machine and pray
if everything goes fine you wont see a kernel panic
if the boot stops.. well.. then try booting linux again and at the LILO
prompt hit the Tab key and type oldlinux.. if you really screw up then
get your shiny redhat cd and reinstall redhat and give it another try
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From: Mircea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Which processor
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 22:07:47 -0500
Personally, I run a Celeron 300A at 450 MHz (4.5x100), on a Abit BH6
motherboard, for many months, and it's (still) a killer combo. And
cheap, too. In all the benchmarks, it equals a true PII 450, since the
L2 cache, although smaller, runs at full processor speed, whereas in all
PIIs, the 450 included, it's only at 1/2 speed.
MST
Howard W. Celnik wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm fairly new to Linux. I've been using it for about 3 months now on a
> PowerPC Mac (I'm using LinuxPPC).
>
> I'm pretty happy with this version of Linux, but all the action seems to
> be on the Intel side so I've decided to build my own computer (I'm new
> to this too).
>
> Anyway, I've pretty much settled on getting an Asus P2B motherboard, but
> I'm not sure about which processor to get. Is a Pentium II overkill;
> what about an Intel Celeron or a third party processor.
>
> Thanks in advance for any help.
>
> Howard
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From: Mircea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Which processor
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 22:11:49 -0500
Releasing the C300A was by far the BEST thing Intel ever did. You
probably never saw one. This doesn't mean, however, that my next
computer won't be AMD-based, probably a K6-III, when the prices become a
tad more accessible. Intel really shoot itself in the leg with the PIII.
MST
John Thomas wrote:
>
> Don't waste your time with a Celeron. Find a nice cheap, used PII 233-333.
> Hving no cache on the chip was the stupidest thing Intel ever did. Note,
> they come with 128k cache now, which is still dumb. If you were to buy a FIC
> 2013 Pentium motherboard w 2Meg L2 cache and an AMD K6-300 your system would
> be FASTER than a PII Celeron running at 333 Mhz.
>
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