Linux-Hardware Digest #990, Volume #9 Sun, 11 Apr 99 02:13:39 EDT
Contents:
Re: 96meg EDO on a TX motherboard? (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=F6rg?= Mertin)
Re: LEXMARK OPTRA S1855 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
banshee installation -please help (Mr M S Meadows)
Re: mounting hard drives (bklimas)
Forte VFX-1 VR-Headgear driver ("Selious")
Re: Parallel Port HP-7200e CDR (Kyle Dansie)
Re: mounting hard drives (Peter Suschlik)
Re: USB support (Kyle Dansie)
Linux ISP hardware (Denny Chuang)
hda error (Ed the Bunny)
Re: 96meg EDO on a TX motherboard? ("Robert M. Taylor")
Re: Diamond SupraExpress 56 i V Pro Internal Modem (Rob Clark)
Re: Diamond Modems (Gary Momarison)
2 Ethernet Cards - IRQ/Address Conflict? Help! ("Simon Morley")
invalid TSS (Mark Ayzenshteyn)
Re: unstable screen under X (Renaud)
Re: Kernel : Compile probs. ("Matthew Wilby")
Re: Q : Sound Blaster SB16 PNP problem : silent card ?? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
BT848 and bt 878 TV cards support in Linux ("karlo")
Go Linux! (Brian Matthew Sperlongano)
ADIC FastStor DLT autoloader (Robert Sherman)
Re: Help me spend $2,000 on a new Linux-based computer (Sinuhe)
Re: All the current OSes are idiotic (was Re: Is Windows for idiots?) (Steffen Kluge)
Re: Need IDE CD-R configuration help! ("Michael A. Irons")
Re: All the current OSes are idiotic (was Re: Is Windows for idiots?) (Scott
Campbell)
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From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=F6rg?= Mertin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 96meg EDO on a TX motherboard?
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 13:13:25 GMT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Am 07.04.99, 13:04:32, schrieb Emmanuel Michon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>=20
zum Thema 96meg EDO on a TX motherboard?:
> Hi,
> I would like to put
> 96meg RAM on an asus TX97
> motherboard (16+16+32+32,
> four slots, all in EDO).
> Is there a trouble with the
> motherboard cache?
> Is there a trouble with linux
> memory management?
As far as I know, the TX Chipset only Chaches 64MB of memory. No=20
Tag-Ram option to my knowledge to get over this limit. Means, if you=20
use 96MB of ram, your system will be 50% slower as with only 64MB of=20
ram. Linux runs fine with it...
Regards
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: LEXMARK OPTRA S1855
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 02:24:46 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Grant Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "wrexy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > I have a lexmark Optra S1855 with duplex option. It is a great pitty that I
> > can really use it for its fully potential as all the printer driver is for
> > the regular postscript printer. Lexmark can give me any help. Any
> > suggestions?
>
> I'm not sure what you're missing; the S1855 is a Postscript printer
> which is reported to work just fine with the usual Linux software.
>
> What's missing?
>
> --
> Grant Taylor - gtaylor@picante<dot>com - http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/
> Cellphone information: http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/cell/
> Libretto information: http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/
> Linux Printing HOWTO: http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/pht/
>
So you can print 2-sided from linux? Which linux, and how?
(sorry if this question isn't posed very well...kinda new to news groups)
We just got a Lexmark Optra SE 3455... (we're using RedHat 5.2/kernel
2.0.36-3) (so far) I can only get the client machines to print
duplex by defining a duplex queue on the server via Lexmark software
(also defined a 1-sided queue)... client machines have a queue that
print to the remote server queue, but they are using a
plain postscript filter (setup via "printtool"). ...That is, you have
to print to the 2-sided or 1-sided queue instead of having one queue
and clicking options.
Does anyone know how to make it so you can choose paper size, duplexing,
resolution (300|600|1200 dpi), etc via one queue from client
machines' apps?
Thanks for any help, info, suggestions...gurl_lee
PS: Lexmark says they are "RedHat Linux compatible" but their software
so far is buggy and they are not yet up-to-speed for support.
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From: Mr M S Meadows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: banshee installation -please help
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 03:48:30 +0100
I am new to unix, and wish to set it up to use my Banshee card, as im have
no other graphics card. I found two rpm's that should do this. However,
when i try to install them two bits (excuse the lack of terms) install,
but two, relating to glibc (thats what they say) won't install. I have RED
HAT 5.2, and glibc is installed. If anyone has got a banshee working
please help me, as i can't use it in the 20x10 resolution it wants to
impose on my once glorious grpahics system
Any help would be greatly appreciated
Mtt
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From: bklimas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.linux,alt.os.linux,alt.uu.comp.os.linux,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: mounting hard drives
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 02:59:04 GMT
pschless wrote:
> I have two hard drives inside my computer. linux is installed on my d
> drive, or hdb.
> anyone know how I can mount my c drive or my d drive into linux?
> please email me.
> thanks for your time
> Patrick
You might want to have a look at:
http://sunsite.auc.dk/linux-newbie/FAQ.htm#mount_floppy_zipdrive
It contains extensive and (hopefully) simple instructions how to
mount almost anything on your system.
Hope this helps. Best regards,
Stan
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From: "Selious" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Forte VFX-1 VR-Headgear driver
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 13:46:20 +0200
Anyone knows about it's existence ??
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Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 20:22:26 -0700
From: Kyle Dansie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Parallel Port HP-7200e CDR
Jacques Fortier wrote:
>
> Does anyone know if it is possible to use a parallel port external CD
> burner with Linux? Is there somewhere I can go to get information on
> doing this?
>
> Thanks,
> Jacques Fortier
Yes I think that this works. Check out page
http://www.torque.net/linux-pp.html
Later,
Kyle
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From: Peter Suschlik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.linux,alt.os.linux,alt.uu.comp.os.linux,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: mounting hard drives
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 03:12:41 +0200
pschless wrote:
>
> I have two hard drives inside my computer. linux is installed on my d
> drive, or hdb.
> anyone know how I can mount my c drive or my d drive into linux?
> please email me.
> thanks for your time
> Patrick
man mount
Peter Suschlik
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Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 20:40:21 -0700
From: Kyle Dansie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: USB support
The Unlord wrote:
>
> Can anyone tell if Linux does support USB-devices yet, especially
> graphical tablets?
> If it does, what has to be done to get it running?
>
> Thanx in advance
USB is still in development stage. Take a look at
http://peloncho.fis.ucm.es/~inaky/uusbd-www/news.html
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Denny Chuang)
Subject: Linux ISP hardware
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 03:23:01 GMT
Hi all,
I'm considering upgrading my existing Cyclade Serial cards on my
Linux machine, which is handling dial-in calls for more than 60 users.
I am looking for suggestions as to what combination of hardwares to
buy for upgrading to a hundred dail-in callers at a time.
Also, is it possible to continuing using all my linux utilities that
handles idle time, and some simple scripts?
Thank you for your suggestions and comments.
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From: Ed the Bunny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: hda error
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 03:22:43 GMT
I have linux installed on my old compaq lte lite 4/33 c (along with dos on another
partition.
Everything works fine when I boot into dos but when I boot into linux I get the
following:
Note: I was using 2.0.35 originally but I have since stepped up to 2.2.5 so I'll give
the errors I get in each kernel:
2.0.35:
.
.
.
hda: ST9235AG 199MB w/32KB Cache CHS=983/13/32
hda:unexpected_intr: status=0x51 {DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
hda:unexpected_intr: error=0x04 {DriveStatusError }
hda:unexpected_intr: status=0x51 {DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
hda:unexpected_intr: error=0x04 {DriveStatusError }
hda:unexpected_intr: status=0x51 {DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
hda:unexpected_intr: error=0x04 {DriveStatusError }
etc., etc., etc.
(I can't boot past this error)
2.2.5:
.
.
.
hda: ST9235AG, ATA DISK drive
ide0: unexpected interrupt, status=0x51, count=#
ide0: unexpected interrupt, status=0x51, count=#
etc. etc. etc. where count=# starts at 1, then 33xxx or something, and continues
rising until I give up and shutdown the computer :)
All I can tell you about the drive is what it gives me when it actually boots properly
(yes, this is an intermittent problem):
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7, 0x3f6 on irq 14 (this is from the 2.2.5 kernel)
If anyone has any suggestions, please let me know.
Andrew Ashton.
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From: "Robert M. Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 96meg EDO on a TX motherboard?
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 22:27:55 -0400
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Emmanuel Michon wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I would like to put
> 96meg RAM on an asus TX97
> motherboard (16+16+32+32,
> four slots, all in EDO).
>
> Is there a trouble with the
> motherboard cache?
>
> Is there a trouble with linux
> memory management?
>
> --
> Manu (http://www.enst.fr/~michon)
Emmanuel,
there are (as far as I Know) no problems with memory management
specifically. Thats not the problem. This configuration (Intel 430 TX
chipset) can not cache more than 64 megabytes of RAM. This is not a
problem if you use SDRAM due to the fact that (at least in some systems)
it disables the cache when SDRAM is installed. It might be better for
you to either consider using SDRAM or upgrading to something else and
away from this motherboard. This is a fine MB as far as it goes, but
intel intentionally limited its capabilities to make the new PII systems
stand out and because the life expectancy of this design was considered
so short.
Bob
--
Bob Taylor @home with Janet, Katie, Anna and
Red Hat Linux release 5.2 (Apollo)
Kernel 2.0.36 on an i586
Peregrine Login:
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Emmanuel Michon wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>Hi,
<P>I would like to put
<BR>96meg RAM on an asus TX97
<BR>motherboard (16+16+32+32,
<BR>four slots, all in EDO).
<P>Is there a trouble with the
<BR>motherboard cache?
<P>Is there a trouble with linux
<BR>memory management?
<P>--
<BR>Manu (<A
HREF="http://www.enst.fr/~michon">http://www.enst.fr/~michon</A>)</BLOCKQUOTE>
Emmanuel,
<BR>there are (as far as I Know) no problems with memory management specifically.
Thats not the problem. This configuration (Intel 430 TX chipset) can not
cache more than 64 megabytes of RAM. This is not a problem if you use SDRAM
due to the fact that (at least in some systems) it disables the cache when
SDRAM is installed. It might be better for you to either consider using
SDRAM or upgrading to something else and away from this motherboard. This
is a fine MB as far as it goes, but intel intentionally limited its capabilities
to make the new PII systems stand out and because the life expectancy of
this design was considered so short.
<P>Bob
<PRE>--
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Red Hat Linux release 5.2 (Apollo)
Kernel 2.0.36 on an i586
Peregrine Login:</PRE>
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Subject: Re: Diamond SupraExpress 56 i V Pro Internal Modem
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rob Clark)
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 12:00:59 GMT
In article <7ea62a$7h7$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Christian Bryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Is it possible to get a Diamond SupraExpress 56 i V Pro Internal Modem to
>work under Linux? I have posted this question to other groups, but my only
>replies indicate that this is a Win modem and is unable to work with Linux.
This is a Win modem and is unable to work with Linux.
>I have tried to drive this modem in Windows 95 using the standard driver and
>it works. This suggests to me that it is not a Win Modem and does not need a
???
A better test would be to boot into DOS (real DOS, not a DOS window) and
try it there.
http://www.diamondmm.de/diamondde/eng/products/comm/56ipro2.htm
Key quotes:
"Cost effective controllerless PCI design"
"IBM compatible Pentium 166 MHz or higher"
"Windows 95�, Windows 98�" [i.e., Windows NT is not supported either]
Rob Clark, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.o2.net/~gromitkc/winmodem.html
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From: Gary Momarison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Diamond Modems
Date: 10 Apr 1999 20:58:54 -0700
"eX-frEEk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hey, i'm a newbie, so i apologize for any idiocy in this post...
>
> i'm getting a new modem and wanted to know if the Diamond SupraExpress 56 PC
> is compatable with linux... 3com ones are too expensive... it doesn't seem
> to be a winmodem and its not PCI based either, so i think it should work...i
> just want to know if anyone has successfully used one of these modems in
> their linux systems yet..
> thx
>
> -Bob
Modem compatibilty list:
http://www.o2.net/~gromitkc/winmodem.html
More modem info:
http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/modems.html
Or DejaNews would have told you in a few seconds.
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From: "Simon Morley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: 2 Ethernet Cards - IRQ/Address Conflict? Help!
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 23:58:47 +0800
My RedHat installation was fine with one ethernet card.
I just installed a second and added a file ifcfg-eth1.
On reboot the system hangs. Remove the card and its fine.
Both cards work fine under Windows.
Neither card has jumpers and both seem to be using IRQ11.
They use different addresses (6400 & 6800).
Is there anything I can do to fix this other than buying a new card with
jumpers?
Thanks in advance. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 07:56:50 +0200
From: Mark Ayzenshteyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: invalid TSS
Does anyone know what this message means?
invalid TSS:0040
[other stuff like stack trace...]
Most of the time its followed by a crash, but sometimes the sytem can
recover.
I have moved all of the main system componenets into my other system and
made that bonzo.org. The only thing thats left in this system now thats
original is the board CPU, RAM & Case. It still comes up with the TSS
message so its not the weird SCSI drive giving out. Is this the memory or
the board/CPU going wacky?
Thanks
Mark
==========================================================================
Mark Ayzenshteyn CS Major at UCSD
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.bonzo.org/~marka
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Renaud)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: unstable screen under X
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 04:28:03 GMT
On Sat, 10 Apr 1999 21:12:16 GMT, Mark Mcgaha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>> Can anyone help?
>>
>> the image on my screen seems to become unstable when I move my mouse.
>> It does not always happen though.
>
>in the "Device" section of your XF86Config add
>
>Option "sw_cursor"
>
>It is a problem with (some??) Matrox Millennium cards losing sync while
>using the hardware cursor under XFree86.
thanks a lot, that has cured the problem.
Renaud.
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From: "Matthew Wilby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Kernel : Compile probs.
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 13:20:06 +0100
Andre Malafaya Baptista <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:7ea5cp$e3f$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Also, you might consider reducing the size of your system.
> Many things may be compiled as modules, thus reducing the total size of
the
> image and loading into memory those modules that are really being needed
at
> any one time.
>
> Regards,
> Andr�
>
> Michael Travis wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> >Matthew,
> >Make bzImage instead of make zImage (then the result will be smaller).
> >You may also need to update lilo (if lilo complains about the size).
> >Regards,
> >Michael.
Hi,
thanks for the advice. Seems to work OK. However, can't really notice any
inprovement by changing the processor type from 386 to Pentium. Also the
login/welcome text still reads....
'welcome to SuSE Linux 6.0 (i386)'
Shouln't it read (i586) since i have an AMD K62 300?
Any advice welcome.
Cheers
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Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 03:02:19 +0200
Subject: Re: Q : Sound Blaster SB16 PNP problem : silent card ??
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
According to ybenigot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I configure a Sound Blaster 16 PnP under Linux RH5.2, Kernel 2.2, Gnome
> 1.0
>
> I use isapnp to select interrupts, dma and all
>
> The SB kernel module is loaded according to conf.modules
>
> Everything OK except no sound. The card doesn't seem to have a 16 bit
> DMA.
>
> /proc/sound shows Sound blaster 16 4.16, but no drivers and no card
> config.
A SB-16 PnP is very often a Vibra-16. I'll give you the same hints I
gave to the other person who answered this question today...
There are about a dozen different versions of the Vibra-16, each with
their own special quirks. I seem to have the lamest Vibra-16 of them
all, and I posted a very detailed message about how to get it working
under Linux in the past. Go to DejaNews and search this group for all
messages posted by me in the past two months and you will find it.
You can also find it here:
http://linux.umbc.edu/fom/fom-serve/cache/75.html
With the frequency that this question comes up, I suppose I really
ought to submit this to the official HOWTO maintainers...
-p.
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Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 03:02:16 +0200
From: "karlo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: BT848 and bt 878 TV cards support in Linux
I know the bt848 is supported in Linux, but is the bt878 also supported?
thanks
karlo
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From: Brian Matthew Sperlongano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Go Linux!
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 00:57:28 -0400
Hmmm... According to Diamond, the max resolution/color depth of a Stealth
II/G460 is 1600x1200 at 256 color... under Linux and the i740 XBF
drivers, it's running just fine (and quite speedy) at 1600x1200 at 16 bit
color... gotta love it :)
-Bri
===================================
Brian Matthew Sperlongano
Worcester Polytechnic Institute
(508) 831-6282 (School)
(401) 828-0746 (Home)
Senator, Student Gov't Association
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From: Robert Sherman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ADIC FastStor DLT autoloader
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 22:23:32 -0700
Hello,
Anyone familiar with setting up the ADIC DLT 4000 autoloader?
I am able to make backups with BRU personal edition, but can't get the
drive to swap tapes. I got a script fron the BRU website to do this,
but rather than actually eject one tape and load another it seems to
just rewind the one that is loaded. The display on the drive says
'ejecting', but the tape does not eject. This script invokes the mt
command:
mt -f /dev/nst0 rewoffl
I seem to remember someone telling me that mt 0.5 (included with Red Hat
5.2) has serious problems, so I installed the previous version using rpm
-i --force. I want to be able to telnet to this server and load/unload
as necessary.
Any ideas would be greatly appreciated!
Robert
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 14:20:34 +0200
From: Sinuhe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help me spend $2,000 on a new Linux-based computer
In article <7dkb1h$l9v$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Rod Roark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >I've gotten the go-ahead from my better half (read: my wife) to spend
> >around 2K on a new system. I'd like to hear _specific_ success and/or
> >horror stories on systems and peripherals that have worked and not
> >worked with Linux. My prequisites: ...
>
> My biggest success spending that much was getting my wife a diamond
> anniversary ring that she didn't expect. :-)
>
> -- Rod
Where is the room for the HD and CPU, etc? Where is that technol.? ;o)
Nathan Letwory
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/3089, http://come.to/Letwory
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 03:27:43 +0200
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steffen Kluge)
Subject: Re: All the current OSes are idiotic (was Re: Is Windows for idiots?)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <7do9kb$d9g$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
westprog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>That is an excellent way to fix bugs, but it is totally unable to fix poor
>initial design decisions. What happens on Linux when you type 'rm * .tmp'
>instead of 'rm *.tmp'? Just the same as on any Unix system for the last 20
>years. Why hasn't it been fixed? Because it would break old programs.
I beg your pardon, what do you need to fix about `rm * .tmp'??
This is exactly what I need when I want to delete all files not
starting with '.' as well as .tmp. You want to rub that out of
my vocabulary?
You mean you want a mind-reading shell? Or one that presents you
with a list of choices after every command you enter, "Select
what you really want:" ...
Time to cite my beloved analogy: you cannot deprive a chef of
his sharp knives, just because he could cut his fingers off. He
would be a useless chef.
When using rm you should know that it deletes stuff and be
careful. When dicing onions you need to use a sharp knife and
watch your fingers.
Just don't cripple our tools beyond usefulness. It's hard to
stick labels onto commands, such as "Keep out of reach of
children". Maybe rm should send you through a "proof-of-age"
test every time you execute it, like Leasure Suit Larry... :-)
>It simply isn't possible to design a 21st Century operating system that is
>backwards compatible with a 1980 OS.
Well, obviously it is (for several interpretations of "backward
compatible" and "21st century operating system"). What you can't
do is start over from scratch every five years. You can start
over a few times in the beginning, abandoning dead ends but
eventually you have to build upon a foundation of proven
concepts and evolve it according to the changing environment
(just like nature does -- I'm a Darwinist ;-)
This doesn't imply that there can be only one branch of
evolution, of course.
Cheers
Steffen.
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Steffen Kluge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Fujitsu Australia Ltd
Keywords: photography, Mozart, UNIX, Islay Malt, dark skies
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linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux.misc,linux.redhat.install,comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.setup
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 20:00:05 +0200
From: "Michael A. Irons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Need IDE CD-R configuration help!
Todd Dunkirk wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> You need to recompile the kernel to get the scsi generic
> support; it does work, but you must be careful to choose
> the following settings:
>
> 1. No IDE/ATAPI cdrom support
> 2. SCSI cdrom support compiled into the kernel (no module)
> 3. SCSI generic support compile into the kernel (no module)
You forgot one thing.
4. IDE-SCSI emulator support under the Block Dev section
PS - Do you think you cross-posted to enough groups??
>
> This will change the device special files you will use to
> access the ide cdrom devices; no longer will they be /dev/hd(x),
> but /dev/scd(x). Change any /dev/cdrom symlink to reflect this.
>
> When you run cdrecord, pass the -scanbus flag to determine
> which scsibus/device your burner/reader are on; this will likely
> be 0,0 and 0,1 although which is which I cannot say from the info
> in your post. I used to use Xcdroast; I think it will tell you this
> in a straightforward way.
>
> I have done this successfully with three different makes of burner:
> HP, Mitsumi, and Memorex. Sorry, I can't remember the model numbers,
> but the HP and Mitsumi are newer devices, less than six months old.
> I don't know about the Panasonic.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Todd
>
> On Tue, 30 Mar 1999 03:51:22 GMT, Holden MacRoyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Help! I'm having trouble getting xcdroast to recognize my CD-R as a CD
> >Writer.
> >
> >Both drives appear in the xcdroast device window but setup will not
> >allow me to specify wither as read or write devices.
> >
> >I have an IDE Panasonic 7582-CDR, and a normal IDE CD-ROM for reading. I
> >am running Mandrake Linux 5.3 (RedHat 5.2 with all the latest drivers
> >updated and tested).
> >
> >From reading the HOWTO for CD-Writing, there is some mention that Linux
> >has difficulty with IDE CD-R devices and that I have to somehow trick
> >the kernel into recognizing these devices as Generic SCSI devices. The
> >cdrecord and xcdroast documentation allude to this but give very little
> >information in HOWTO do it.
> >
> >If anyone has successfully done this, please point me in the right
> >direction.
> >
> >Thanks - S
> >
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aTdHvAaNnKcSe >THANKS 'in' advance<
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Crossposted-To:
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Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 22:52:55 +0200
From: Scott Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: All the current OSes are idiotic (was Re: Is Windows for idiots?)
Please excuse my confusion. I do not understand what you mean by Unix
being "broken". As far as I have been able to tell, it will do what
you tell it to. If you tell it to do something other than what you
want it to do, how is it supposed to know what you want?
What do you want to happen when you type 'rm *'? Personally, if I
typed 'rm *' I probably wanted all of the files in the current
directory to be deleted.
scott
westprog wrote:
>
> In article <7dosne$9cj$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> "Osvaldo Pinali Doederlein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > jedi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > >That is an excellent way to fix bugs, but it is totally unable to fix
> > poor
> > > >initial design decisions. What happens on Linux when you type 'rm * .tmp'
> > > >instead of 'rm *.tmp'? Just the same as on any Unix system for the last
> > 20
> > > >years. Why hasn't it been fixed? Because it would break old programs.
> > > >It simply isn't possible to design a 21st Century operating system that
> > is
> > > >backwards compatible with a 1980 OS.
> > > Then write a new utility named foo or rewrite rm to exhibit
> > > your notion of 'the one true interface'. Unix has less such
> > > problems as it is nearly completely modular.
> >
> > The problem is not rm's, it's a fundamental problem of the CLI because the
> > shell, not the rm program, will expand the wildcards. The right thing to do
> > is having the tool to expand the wildcards when appropriate. You could
> > stuff the expansion functionality in a shared lib so the developer has the
> > same convenience of not having to write it. And the developer would have a
> > change to check for suspicious parameters before the expansion.
>
> It can't even be fixed by rewriting the shell as then you would require
> commands to behave in a fundamentally different way. It is an example of Unix
> being not only broken, but unfixable.
>
> J.
>
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