Linux-Hardware Digest #12, Volume #10            Tue, 13 Apr 99 09:13:31 EDT

Contents:
  Help--cdwriting/HP CD-Writer Plus (root)
  PCL6 Laser Printer (Xaendiss)
  Re: Sell me (or trade) a modem that works with linux! (Tim Moore)
  Jaz Drive support? (Robert Patterson)
  Re: ES 1371 on Intel 440BX motherboard (Steffen Kluge)
  Re: HP710 printer for RH 5.1 ? (Tommy Kelly)
  last sector on MO disk not readable (Horst Carius)
  Re: I need some type of display device.... (Le physicien nocturne)
  Re: sndconfig - PnP problems (Wayne Kovsky)
  Re: Telepath Modem for Windows with X2 ("Nathan Cook")
  Re: I need some type of display device.... (Le physicien nocturne)
  Re: All the current OSes are idiotic (was Re: Is Windows for idiots?) (Chris Welch)
  Re: All the current OSes are idiotic (was Re: Is Windows for idiots?) (Chris Welch)
  Re: Which Eicon ISDN card? (Jon Haugsand)
  Re: All the current OSes are idiotic (was Re: Is Windows for idiots?) (westprog)
  ATAPI cdrom drive to play audio CD (Hugues MASSE)
  Re: All the current OSes are idiotic (was Re: Is Windows for idiots?) (westprog)
  GRAPHICS CARD & LINUX X ("�ngel Luis Vizoso Dom�nguez")
  Re: PCI interrupt sharing problem (**Nick Brown)

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From: root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Help--cdwriting/HP CD-Writer Plus
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 23:56:13 -0600

I have purchased the HP CD-Writer Plus 8100 series.
None of the programs I installed on linux (cdwrite, cdrecord, xcdroast
etc. ) will talk to the device.
I am using linux-2.2.5 and the following is booting messages.
Can anyone give me any suggestions?

Thanks for your help.

Hasari Tosun


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PIIX4: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 39
PIIX4: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
    ide0: BM-DMA at 0x9030-0x9037, BIOS settings: hda:pio, hdb:pio
    ide1: BM-DMA at 0x9038-0x903f, BIOS settings: hdc:pio, hdd:pio
hda: QUANTUM Bigfoot TX8.0AT, ATA DISK drive
hdc: Hewlett-Packard CD-Writer Plus 8100, ATAPI CDROM drive
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
hda: QUANTUM Bigfoot TX8.0AT, 7665MB w/69kB Cache, CHS=977/255/63,
(U)DMA
hdc: ATAPI 24X CD-ROM DVD-RAM CD-R/RW drive, 1024kB Cache
Uniform CDROM driver Revision: 2.54
Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M


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From: Xaendiss <" Xaendiss"@hotmail.com>
Subject: PCL6 Laser Printer
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:24:58 +0200

Hi,

I've just bought an Mita DP-570 Laser printer which is PCL6 compliant.
It works fine with the HP4L printer driver (apsfilter), but the speed
(if I can call
it speed) is horribly slow. It takes about 2 minutes per page.

Can anyone help?

I'm using

SuSE Linux 6.0
Kernel 2.2.5
Parallel ZIP Drive
Mita DP-570



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Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 02:36:47 -0700
From: Tim Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.networking
Subject: Re: Sell me (or trade) a modem that works with linux!

> I would like to buy or trade for anyone's modem that _definitely_
> works with Linux. Somebody's got to have an extra around...
...
> What do I have for trade? A 56 Kbps winmodem!

Eewwww.  Throw it in the garbage.

>
> (I'm keeping one of them to give to my girlfriend... whichever one you
> don't want.)

Not only does she get a Thing Made By Satan, but the lesser of them at that.  Tell
you what.  Put both of you out of your miseries.  I'll trade you a Zoom 56Kflex with
real jumpers for your girlfriend.  Wot a deal.

Fortunately for Mr. "I Gave My Girl A Winmodem for Xmas And She Left Me On New Years
Eve", there is this page:

http://www.o2.net/~gromitkc/winmodem.html

-- 
Direct replies to bigfoot.com with username 'timothymoore'

"Everything is permitted.  Nothing is forbidden."
                                   WS Burroughs.

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From: Robert Patterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Jaz Drive support?
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 03:26:58 -0700

I have Caldera OpenLinux 1.3, with the 2.0.35 (?) kernel, and it works
with no difficulty with my Adaptect 2920 SCSI card and SCSI CD-ROM
drive.  However, my understanding was that special kernel support was
needed for a Jaz drive, which I have; has anyone gotten a Jaz drive
working and, if so, where do I get the code or binaries?

Thanks,
Robert H. Patterson


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steffen Kluge)
Subject: Re: ES 1371 on Intel 440BX motherboard
Date: 13 Apr 1999 06:24:04 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Harry McGregor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>The AudioPCI (ES1370 and 1371) is a very good card.  Get the
>2.2.5 kernel, compile it, and it runs great.

Why do you think it's very good? Honest question - I'm curious.

My experience with the AudioPCI (a.k.a. SoundBlaster PCI) card
was a bit mixed: it doesn't have an amplifier on-board, so you
can't connect passive speakers to it. This sets it apart from
other (orig. Creative) SoundBlaster cards. In fact, the Creative
passive speakers (SBS10) claim to work well with all SB cards,
but they don't with the SB PCI.

Also, the card doesn't support the ul format directly. That
means you can't drop .au files onto the /dev/dsp or /dev/audio
devices. Some apps depend on that. You have to use something
like sox in between to convert into ub format.

I've only tried the driver that comes with RH5.2 so far, are
there changes in the 2.2.x drivers?

>>The chip isn't supported in the 2.0 kernel series but recent kernels
>>(2.2 series) have support for the ESS 1370/1371 chipset.

The 2.0.36 kernel as shipped with RH5.2 has es1370 and es1371
drivers.

Cheers
Steffen.

-- 
Steffen Kluge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Fujitsu Australia Ltd
Keywords: photography, Mozart, UNIX, Islay Malt, dark skies
--

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From: Tommy Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HP710 printer for RH 5.1 ?
Date: 13 Apr 1999 11:04:44 +0100

theo berkhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hi,
> I am looking for a printer to use in linux & windows. I am thinking
> about a hewlett Packard 710 printer. But does it work in
> linux?

I just bought a 710c and it does not work out of the box
with linux.  It uses the Printing Performance Architecture
(PPA) protocol and so relies on Windows helping
it out.  Tim Norman is heroically producing linux support
stuff, but it is B&W only at the moment, and does require
hacking about a bit.

If I was buying again I would stay away from these "win
printers". 

See http://www.httptech.com/ppa/ for more details.

t


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From: Horst Carius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: last sector on MO disk not readable
Date: 13 Apr 1999 10:32:11 GMT

Hallo again,
is there nowbody who knows anything about MO or the READ function of the 
operating system.

Following is my problem. When you look at the boot log than you see 
that there is a MO drive with a media which has 446325 Sectors 
(normal 230MB media), but when I read the media I am not able to read the 
last sector. The output of the DD utility programm gives me always the 
same result. Thank you in advance for any answer.
Best Regards Horst Carius
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> or <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

at boot log:                                           <---- 446325 Sectors
<4>SCSI device sdc: hdwr sector= 512 bytes. Sectors= 446325 [217 MB] 
[0.2GB]

console log:
amd350:/home # dd if=/dev/sdc of=allmodata.img
446324+0 records in                                    <---- 446324 records
446324+0 records out
amd350:/home #

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From: Le physicien nocturne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I need some type of display device....
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 02:45:38 -0400

WYLES, ERIC JASON wrote:

> What I am looking for is a small screen, maybe like 20 chars X 4 chars or
> so.  I need to be able
> to use this device in linux (redhat) and write characters to the output from
> within a program that
> I am writing in c++.  I think what I am looking for is an LED or LCD device,
> but I am not sure.  It
> is going to be used as the display portion of a CD player.  If someone could
> please help me find
> such a device it would be greatly appreaciated.  I would like to have
> something that would run
> from a parallel port or from the standard monitor display since I will not
> be using either a monitor
> or printer on the finished product (the final product is an MP3/CD player by
> the way). A serial
> port display would work ok too if some thing like this exists.
>
> thank you,
> eric wyles
>
>    -**** Posted from RemarQ, http://www.remarq.com/a ****-
>  Search and Read Usenet Discussions in your Browser

You can check at http://www.digikey.com

They sell a LCD module from Optrex
Digikey part number 73-1086-ND
Optrex part number DMC-20434

That should be a good start, good luck!


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Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 17:58:22 -0600
From: Wayne Kovsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.install,linux.dev.sound
Subject: Re: sndconfig - PnP problems

Guillaume Assire wrote:

> I have a SoundBlaster AWE64, which had been correctly recognised when I first
> installed my Red Hat 5.2, yes using isapnp from inside the Red Hat install
> process. Two months ago I had major X crashes with EsounD, I'm not sure the
> soundcard had been correctly installed BTW. Since then, I've never been able
> to get my soundcard properly installed anymore.

Guillaume, try these values from my own conf.modules file, on a system
that has a SoundBlaster AWE64 (ignore the SCSI and ethernet card
entries, the first two lines in this file):

alias scsi_hostadapter aic7xxx 
alias eth0 3c59x 
alias sound sb
options opl3 io=0x388
alias midi awe_wave
post-install awe_wave /usr/bin/sfxload /etc/midi/GU11-ROM.SF2
options sb io=0x220 irq=7 dma=0 dma16=5 mpu_io=0x300

This is telling Linux that my AWE64 uses I/O address 220 for its primary
address, and I/O address 300 for the MPU and I/O address 388 for the
OPL3 synth, that it uses DMA channels 0 and 5, and that it uses IRQ 7. 
That is a fairly standard setup for AWE64, but you might need to change
some of those values for your own system.

Hope this helps.

-- 
Wayne Kovsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Colorado Software Summit (A Java Programming Conference)
http://www.SoftwareSummit.com

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From: "Nathan Cook" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Telepath Modem for Windows with X2
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 22:11:14 -0700

The "telepath for windows" denotes that it is a proprietary windows-only
modem.

sorry man
I had the same problem (different modem) but I had to go buy a new one too.

Nathan
nathanc@[antispam]rmci.net

Ellamenno Pee wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>I have a telepath modem for windows with X2 from Gateway.  I was not
>sure if this was a winmodem for sure, or if there was hope.  I tried
>using pnpdump and isapnp.  After running setserial on the specified
>port, the modem clicks twice and picks up the line. ( kinda weird).  I
>tried sending AT commands to it but it does not seem to respond to
>them.  I called Gateway to get some additional information, and they
>assured me that none of the modem's functionality is software based.  I
>am told that the only thing that would not work is some of the voice
>features (it's a voice/data modem).  Now I am thoroughly confused.  Any
>information about this would be greatly appreciated.  Also, what is the
>difference between the Telepath for Windows with X2 and the Telepath 56k
>if anyone knows?
>
>The Nut
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>



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From: Le physicien nocturne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I need some type of display device....
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 02:58:17 -0400

Le physicien nocturne wrote:

> WYLES, ERIC JASON wrote:
>
> > What I am looking for is a small screen, maybe like 20 chars X 4 chars or
> > so.  I need to be able
> > to use this device in linux (redhat) and write characters to the output from
> > within a program that
> > I am writing in c++.  I think what I am looking for is an LED or LCD device,
> > but I am not sure.  It
> > is going to be used as the display portion of a CD player.  If someone could
> > please help me find
> > such a device it would be greatly appreaciated.  I would like to have
> > something that would run
> > from a parallel port or from the standard monitor display since I will not
> > be using either a monitor
> > or printer on the finished product (the final product is an MP3/CD player by
> > the way). A serial
> > port display would work ok too if some thing like this exists.
> >
> > thank you,
> > eric wyles
> >
> >    -**** Posted from RemarQ, http://www.remarq.com/a ****-
> >  Search and Read Usenet Discussions in your Browser
>
> You can check at http://www.digikey.com
>
> They sell a LCD module from Optrex
> Digikey part number 73-1086-ND
> Optrex part number DMC-20434
>
> That should be a good start, good luck!

Sorry!

Check instead for Digikey 73-1087-ND . The other was from last year's catalog!


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From: Chris Welch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: All the current OSes are idiotic (was Re: Is Windows for idiots?)
Date: 13 Apr 1999 11:50:58 GMT

In comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy westprog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Firstly - I don't know of any non-Unix-like system that is case sensitive.
> Even the most primitive file loaders, like MDOS*, are able to interpret
> 'Dir', 'DIR' and 'dir' without ambiguity or confusion. Case sensitivity was
> popularised by Unix and C.

You wouldn't type anything in non-all lowercase unless you meant it. Why
would you type Dir and mean dir? dir is less button pressing.

> Secondly - there hasn't been a completely new desktop OS for many years now.
> (I may be wrong wrt BEOS - I don't know enough about it). MacOS dates back
> to 1984. I would like to see a new design, based on modern technology and
> concepts, not the PDP-11.

It would be interesting to see a _new_ OS. Let's see Microsoft do some
of that "innovating" it's always on about.
-- 
-
http://www.olemiss.edu/~cmwelch1

Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from 
mediocre minds - Albert Einstein  

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From: Chris Welch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: All the current OSes are idiotic (was Re: Is Windows for idiots?)
Date: 13 Apr 1999 12:02:33 GMT

In comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy westprog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> One of the first things we learn when we are being taught to read is that
> Bob, BOB, and bob are the same word. This is quite a major conceptual
> breakthrough, and it takes a lot of hard work. There are very good reasons
> for this, based on hundreds of years of experience. For example "My car is
> nice. I love my car." We don't even have to think about whether "My" and
> "my" > are equivalent, and that the capital "M" is there for readability.
> It is only in the strange world of Unix that we have to unlearn this.

If I were browsing some case insensitive code (like Pascal), my first
reaction to seeing "MyFileName" and then "myfilename" is that they are
different. This is before I learned anything about Unix or C. Why? Because
they look different. Using two (or more) different looking names
for the same variable is sloppy.     

> In other words, the Unix OS is too lazy to do a one-line conversion
> that every other OS I know does as a matter of routine. It forces the
> user to conform to its method of coding characters.

It's not laziness, many see case sensitivity as a good thing. Like for
passwords.


> Well duh - Windows short file names are crap. We all knew that. Do you
> really need the ability to have two files, one called
> MyfirstProgram.java and another called MyFirstProgram.java?

If you want. You should tell the computer what to do and how to do it, not
the other way around. 

-- 
-
http://www.olemiss.edu/~cmwelch1

Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from 
mediocre minds - Albert Einstein  

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From: Jon Haugsand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Which Eicon ISDN card?
Date: 13 Apr 1999 13:49:29 +0200

* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Hello all:
> 
> I would like to know of experiences with different Eicon ISDN cards and linux.
> Which one would you reccomend to use with Suse linux 5.3 (kernel 2.0.35)?
> 
> I have gone through a lot of FAQs, mailing-list archives, etc, and there is
> too much information. I ended up not knowing exactly which card does work and
> which one does not.  :-)

I have an Eicon ISDN 2.01 PCI which works painlessly, but I had to get
a new driver from someone, who said that I needed kernel 2.0,34, 35 or
36. You can find the driver here: <url:
http://www.nr.no/%7ehaugsand/linux/diva-tips.html> 

However, the Eicon 2.0 PCI should work from scratch I guess, but I am
not familiar with the SuSe distribution. (Warning: don't get the pro
card.) 

-- 
Jon Haugsand
  Norwegian Computing Center, <http://www.nr.no/engelsk/> 
  <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  Pho: +47 22852608 / +47 22852500, 
  Fax: +47 22697660, Pb 114 Blindern, N-0314 OSLO, Norway


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From: westprog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: All the current OSes are idiotic (was Re: Is Windows for idiots?)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 11:51:24 GMT

In article <7eton3$2g8f$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leslie Mikesell) wrote:
> In article <7estpv$m08$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> westprog  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >> You can't, becuase rm doesn't see the original command line.  It only sees
the
> >> command line after the shell has expanded wild cards.  The way it should
work
> >> is as follows:
> >>
> >> 1. The shell expands wildcards.
> >> 2. The shell places in the environment variable "CMD_UNEXPANDED" the
command
> >> line without wildcards expanded.
> >> 3. The shell runs the command.
> >
> >This is a fairly good fix for Unix. It is not the right way to do it with a
> >blank sheet of paper. There is no point in expanding wildcards, then throwing
> >away the command line you just read in and reading an environment variable.
> >This isn't transparent programming.
> >
> >System libraries. The solution is known.
>
> That makes it really ugly when different users want different versions
> and doesn't deal with the other ways that people use shell expansions.
> What is a system library going to do with:
> =======
> FILES=`echo *`
> cp $FILES /tmp
> rm $FILES
> ========
> The $FILES variable is known only to the shell so cp and rm aren't
> going to be able to expand it no matter what libraries they have.
> This kind of operation is often needed for 'live' directories
> where you want to do several operations to the same set of files
> even though more may appear between the set.

So use a variable that is visible to the application. I am not proposing fixes
for Unix here - I am stating that the flaws in Unix are fundamental and basic,
and that it should not be a basis for the OS for the new millenium. I'm not
proposing that Unix should be thrown away, just that it shouldn't be the
universal solution.

J.

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From: Hugues MASSE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ATAPI cdrom drive to play audio CD
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 13:56:38 +0200

Hi,

I am using an ATAPI cdrom drive using an ide interface to play audio
CDs. It works fine.

I upgraded my kernel from 2.0.36 to 2.2.0 recently and I used the SCSI
emulation and desactivated the ATAPI support of my cdrom drive.
Both my cdrom drive (hdb and hdd) became sr0 and sr1 and seem to work
but I can't use them to play audio CDs any longer.

Thanks for your help,

Hugues

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From: westprog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: All the current OSes are idiotic (was Re: Is Windows for idiots?)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 10:37:23 GMT

In article <7etn8n$2fdg$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leslie Mikesell) wrote:
> In article <7etq2l$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Jason V. Robertson~ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>This is the reason for case-sensitive operating systems, file systems and
> >>>programming languages. Nobody really wants a system that can't recognise
> >>>"MyFileName" as the same as "MyFilename", but it saved a few cycles back in
> >>>the valve age.
> >>
> >>you speak only for yourself here.  i most certainly do want case
> >>sensitivity in my filesystems and programs.  why use more than one
> >>case if they don't mean something different?

> >Case preservation = good.  Case sensitivity - in the filesystem - = bad.

> Well, we disagree.

> >It's easy to make arguments for the former, hard to make them against the
> >later.  99% of the time, if you type 'MyFilename' you mean (if it already
> >exists) 'MyFileName'.

> I prefer not to leave things to  99% guesswork.  I'd rather say what I
> mean and be expected to mean what I say.

There is no guesswork in a case-insensitive system. They have been working
perfectly well long before Unix was thought of.

> >You prevent more errors by coding to that 99%.  It's
> >pretty hard to think of legitimate cases for case sensitivity in the

> >filesystem other than "Unix does it, so I need it."

> Well, yes - a 20 year history of existing practice and existing files
> that require consistent handling is a good enough reason for me.  I
> don't quite understand the 'invent a new API and storage format yearly'
> mentality that forces you to replace everything at once.

Firstly - I don't know of any non-Unix-like system that is case sensitive.
Even the most primitive file loaders, like MDOS*, are able to interpret
'Dir', 'DIR' and 'dir' without ambiguity or confusion. Case sensitivity was
popularised by Unix and C.

Secondly - there hasn't been a completely new desktop OS for many years now.
(I may be wrong wrt BEOS - I don't know enough about it). MacOS dates back to
1984. I would like to see a new design, based on modern technology and
concepts, not the PDP-11.

J.

* Not a spelling mistake

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From: "�ngel Luis Vizoso Dom�nguez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: GRAPHICS CARD & LINUX X
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:40:31 +0200

Somebody can help me??

My graphics card is a AOpen PA70 chipset S3 Savage and my monitor is a
Proview MultiScan 17".

I can not to start X in my system.

Thanks.
Angel.

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From: **Nick Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: PCI interrupt sharing problem
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 10:30:53 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Well, it's fixed now - it was the _motherboard_.

It turns out that on this specific brand of motherboard (QDI), the BIOS
has a driver for the NCR 53Cxxx SCSI controllers built-in.  And on the
BIOS version I had, this was causing the problem.  I upgraded to the
latest BIOS version and the problem went away.

**Nick Brown wrote:
> However, using the tomsrtbt mini-distribution, which loads the Ethernet
> driver in the kernel, I can't then load the ncr53c8xx module after
> booting.  It says "request IRQ 12 failure".

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