Linux-Hardware Digest #177, Volume #10 Fri, 7 May 99 02:13:25 EDT
Contents:
Re: Sony SuperStation drive ("Stephen Miller")
Re: Intel network card support (Michael Meissner)
Re: Winmodem Rip Off Baskets (Support Dept.)
Re: "Jiggling" video ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: in search of low profile computer cases (ts)
WinPrinters... Re: Winmodems and Linux (Christopher Browne)
Newbie vs Linux: Comment on this system. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Asus P2BLS (Grant Warkentin)
OpenGL with old video card ("DoomsdayZero")
Re: OpenGL with old video card (baggar11)
SuSe 6.1 Setting up a PPP Connection to SWBELL.NET with wvdial ("Derek S. Smigelski")
Help!! Can't see my external modem!?! (Robert Kesterson)
Re: Linux modem list. ("Sushil Kamble")
Re: Help! ISDN Motorola Bitsurfer Pro EZ w/ Lava Link 650 ISA ("Colonel Panic�")
Re: LILO refuses, stops after 'LI' (Timothy Klein)
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From: "Stephen Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Sony SuperStation drive
Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 20:48:39 -0500
Scott,
Unforetunately, there are some incosistencies in the Superstation's IDE
interface that the ide-tape module can't handle correc tly. The author of
the module is working on a fix, but.... I have yet to get mine to work in a
Linux/Win95 dual boot system.
Steve M.
Scott Simpson wrote in message <7gsf19$i51$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>I have a Sony SuperStation drive. Is there any Linux support
>for such a beast? Linux seems to complain vociferously when
>it comes up.
>
>
>
>
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Subject: Re: Intel network card support
From: Michael Meissner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 06 May 1999 22:49:20 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul) writes:
> I've got the chance of getting an Intel network card based on the
> 82557 chip pretty cheap, but I need to be sure that Linux will
> reliably support the card.
>
> The Red Hat hardware compat. guide mentions Intel EEPro 100 as being
> supported, but I think that this card is the EEPro 100B.
>
> My concern is that 'B' may mean that something has changed radically
> since the EEPro 100 was built, (and support may be problematic as a
> result). There again, it may mean nothing at all.
>
> Does anyone out there have knowledge/views/advice please?
My laptop docking station has a 82557 chip in it, and it works fine.
--
Michael Meissner, Cygnus Solutions
PMB 198, 174 Littleton Road #3
Westford, Massachusetts 01886
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] fax: 978-692-4482
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Support Dept.)
Subject: Re: Winmodem Rip Off Baskets
Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 02:45:36 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Support Dept.)
bryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spake thusly and wrote:
>maybe I'm being sense <g>, but why on earth are folks even TRUSTING
>modem -cards-. why not just get an external db25 style modem and then
>you can have a greater chance of getting it to work.
Especially when a company like Zoom who even has linux files on their web site
makes reasonably priced, high quality modems. Zoom makes real internal
modems as well. Just stay away from all PCI modems.
Steve
--
http://www.sellcom.com
(Opinions expressed, though generally wise and
accurate are not officially positions of SELLCOM)
Telecom and internet networking hardware / Security products
Cyclades / Siemens (May REBATE) / Y2K ODIU support / Zoom / Palmer Safes
(Tech assistance provided without warranty express or implied)
Check us out at http://www.thepubliceye.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: "Jiggling" video
Date: 06 May 1999 20:05:39 PDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What have you got sitting near the monitor?
It sounds like interfearance to me. Be sure to
look on the other side of the wall too.
Possible culprits: Phones, other monitors or TV's
Speakers, cell phones, clocks (even battery powered
clocks), Aquarium pumps and heaters, Basicly
anything that uses electricity. Hmmm, refigerators,
washing machines.
Also consider that there may be a wire in the wall that
is carrying current to some applience nearby (ie; water heater).
So try moving the monitor to a differant location and
see what happens.
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Kyle Gonzales <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>Hello, all. I have given up on this problem, and decided to put it to
>the masses. The left side & bottom right of my screen "jiggles". The
>video images flickers & jumps slightly. As you can imagine, this plays
>havoc with my eyes! So, to "try" and correct the problem, I replaced
>the monitor. Same problem. So, I replaced the PCI S3/Virge video card
>with a ATI Xpert 98 PCI. Same problem. I moved the video card to a new
>slot. Same problem. I tried moving the monitor farther away from the
>CPU. No change. So, I am tapped out. Anyone out there have a solution
>I can try? I am going nuts... BTW, this happens from bootup. The BIOS
>screen jiggles as well.
>
>Thanks
>
>Kyle Gonzales
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
--
Just my $0.02 worth.
Hope this helps,
Gordon
PS:
For e-mail: replace 'X.bleeb' with 'greeder'.
I do not tollerate spam. Any unsolicited bulk
e-mail will result in a complaint to your ISP.
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From: ts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: in search of low profile computer cases
Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 22:41:56 -0400
Michael,
Try this link to Jinco computers. Click on lpx low profile cases. They have
motherboards, cases and barebone systems for low profile machines.
http://st3.yahoo.com/jinco/index.html
Michael Hirsch wrote:
> Does anyone know of a low profile computer case? I'm trying to make
> myself a box that isn't quite so chunky. Ideally, I would be able to
> find a case that would look at home in a stereo cabinet.
>
> I imagine I would probably need a custom motherboard, too, so the
> expansion cards wouldn't stick up too high.
>
> Anyone know of something like this?
>
> --
> Michael D. Hirsch Work: (404) 727-7940
> Emory University, Atlanta, GA 30322 FAX: (404) 727-5611
> email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mathcs.emory.edu/~hirsch/
>
> Public key for encrypted mail available upon request (or finger
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]).
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: WinPrinters... Re: Winmodems and Linux
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 04:01:13 GMT
On Wed, 5 May 1999 22:48:05 +0200, Matthias Warkus
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>It was the Wed, 05 May 1999 09:55:18 -0600...
>..and John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Eric Fierke wrote:
>> >
>> > Actually, I may be mistaken, but I believe that HP already makes
>> > windows-only printers. And I would certainly consider the office-jet and
>> > related multifunction printers (printer, scanner, fax machine, and coffee
>> > maker all in ones) to be windows-only.
>>
>> IIRC, these "winprinters" merely lack built-in fonts. They
>> just expect to be fed bitmaps of some sort. I suspect that
>> ghostscript could support these.
>
>No. They are GDI printers. They need the Windows GDI printing API /
>rasteriser to work.
The whole GDI thing confuses people away from the issue. There is no
such thing as a "GDI printer," as such. The *point* of GDI is that
*PROGRAMS* (and printer drivers don't count as such) go after the GDI
API in order to present printable output.
GDI then has, behind the scenes, an API directed to "rendering." Makers
of what are termed as "GDI printers" write a driver that takes things
out of GDI, and then translate it into whatever physical form the
printer requires as input.
This isn't all that different from having a show_page() call that
invokes a PCL renderer that takes all the things that got called, and
translates them into PCL.
In concept, this isn't *at all* different from taking a stream of data,
following it by "showpage," and then expecting Ghostscript to take that
stream and turn it into [PCL | Epson MX-80 | G3 Fax | ... lots of GS
output forms].
The marketing "genius" is that Microsoft has convinced people that GDI,
which is really an abstract thing that is deeply embedded inside
Windows, is a moniker worthy of putting on products.
>The only way to make them work with Unix lpd is to use a dedicated
>Win32 rasterising server. Geez.
"The only way" my foot.
It wouldn't be inconceivable to have some sort of "framebuffer driver"
where Ghostscript would do rasterization of Postscript into the form
that the WinPrinter handles.
There are two problems that have not yet been surmounted:
a) The manufacturers refuse to disclose the format/data protocol. This
is a purely informational matter; given data on the format, it ought
not to be difficult to create a Ghostscript driver for one or another
of the printers.
Note that there might need to be a different driver for each and every
such printer; the fact that they all get called "GDI printers" is
misleading in that it suggests to the reader that the *printers* have
something in common, when what is common is only the API inside Windows.
b) The *real* problem that comes up is that some of the printers have
"real time" constraints on how data must be fed to them. The
manufacturers have made the printer *so* dumb that they forcibly require
that the print spooler be tightly integrated into the OS kernel so as to
have virtually 'real time' communications.
I don't have a big problem with them defining a bunch of "frame buffer"
protocols for representing the data; that requires an annoying
proliferation of drivers, but does not represent disastrously bad
design.
The "real time" requirement is dismayingly evil, and not only means that
such printers aren't usable with non-MS OSes, but also means that they
will be rendered obsolete Real Soon Now.
There's a Mannesmann Tally Spirit-80 in my parents' basement 1500 miles
away that I could hook up to my Linux box today and use. Getting
ribbons might be problematic, but interfacing it would *not* be the
slightest bit of a problem. I might need to recompile Ghostscript to
include a driver to a printer considered 15 years obsolete, but the
printer could be made to work.
The same will *not* be said for most of the WinPrinters; when Windows
2001 comes out, it is entirely likely that there will be no "integrated
print spool handler," and your "Panasonic WinPrinter '97" won't work
anymore. And you will be forced to buy a new printer.
Think carefully about this; both the printer makers *and* Microsoft
benefit; WinPrinters tie you to Windows, and they *also* have a form of
planned obsolescence, as the printer may no longer be usable a couple
years down the road. The policy doesn't "merely" establish Microsoft as
a "blackguard," but is amply in the interests of printer makers.
--
"There are two types of hackers working on Linux: those who can spell,
and those who can't. There is a constant, pitched battle between the
two camps." --Russ Nelson (Linux Kernel Summary, Ver. 1.1.75 -> 1.1.76)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/printing.html>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Newbie vs Linux: Comment on this system.
Date: 06 May 1999 20:16:19 PDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Local computer shop quoted this system for me.
Anyone see any problems with it? IE Linux
incompatibilities.
ASUS P5A motherboard, (3dm,pp,2I,1A,ALI,ATX) [whatever all that means]
AMD K6-2/400MHZ cpu
64 meg PC-100 DRAM
Samsung 6.4 Gig IDE UDMA drive.
Samsung 32X IDE CD-ROM
Soundblaster 16 ISA
USR 56K/V.90 ISA Voice FAX modem.
(I eyeballed this, it had jumpers for interupt and com port.
I also know where I can get an A-Open ISA modem)
ATI expert 98 AGP 8meg video.
That's the main part of it. It finishes off with an ATX tower
case, floppy, mouse, keyboard, and Win 98 (GAG!)
Total cost with taxes is $1044.50
--
Gordon
PS:
For e-mail: replace 'X.bleeb' with 'greeder'.
I do not tollerate spam. Any unsolicited bulk
e-mail will result in a complaint to your ISP.
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Subject: Re: Asus P2BLS
From: Grant Warkentin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 04:07:45 GMT
Robert Bernecky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>Posted because Loris' email address is incomplete...
>
>I've got an ASUS P2B-DS with the AIC7890 in it. It works fine with the
>2.2.x kernels. I don't think the 2.0.x kernels support it.
>Bob
>
>
>Loris Caren wrote:
>
>> Can anybody tell me whether they've got an Asus P2BLS working with
>> Linux. I cant find mention of the AIC7890 or of the Intel 82558
>> ethernet chip
>
Off topic >
BeOS 4Runs great on the P2BLS! Only problem is there are no drivers for
the onboard SCSI in BeOS :(
--
~
email address munged:
warkentg move the g to the front.
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From: "DoomsdayZero" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: OpenGL with old video card
Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 00:04:26 -0300
I'm setting up a Linux system and my video card is an old Diamond Stealth 2
S220 which is famous for it's cheapness. Is there a Linux driver out there
that can use OpenGL on a Rendition Verite 2200 chipset?
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From: baggar11 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: OpenGL with old video card
Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 21:48:54 +0000
DoomsdayZero wrote:
> I'm setting up a Linux system and my video card is an old Diamond Stealth 2
> S220 which is famous for it's cheapness. Is there a Linux driver out there
> that can use OpenGL on a Rendition Verite 2200 chipset?
Sorry, you are out of luck on this one. I used to have the Hercules
Thriller 3D card which used the v2200 chipset from Rendition. Currently for
Linux, the only cards that are supported by Mesa3D ( opengl ) are the Voodoo
cards.
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From: "Derek S. Smigelski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: SuSe 6.1 Setting up a PPP Connection to SWBELL.NET with wvdial
Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 23:54:31 -0500
I need help with SuSe 6.1 Setting up a PPP Connection to SWBELL.NET with
wvdial. Can anyone help. The modem dials gives the username and password,
then says "PPP not enabled". Then comes up with a message that says
"Starting PPPd and and hoping for the best." Then just goes to a blank line
and gives me nothing. Should it give me a "PPP Connection" confirmation?
Any suggestions.
Derek
Email
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Robert Kesterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Help!! Can't see my external modem!?!
Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 16:29:58 -0500
I am utterly baffled by this one.
I have a RedHat 5.2 system that has been working just fine for a good
long while (actually this is about the fourth or fifth one I've had).
It has been running with an internal 56K modem for a year or more with
no troubles.
Today I got a new external modem. And I can't make it work for the life
of me. No matter what I use to talk to the modem, I can send "AT" and
"AT&F" and such all day long and I never get anything back from the
modem. The DTR and RTS lights light up when I start up minicom of
whatever, and I've tried every baud rate in the book, to no avail.
I've tried as a user, and as root. I've tried removing the internal
modem. I've tried two different cables. I've tried turning PNP on/off
in the Bios. But nothing seems to work.
It is on ttyS1 , on IRQ 3. There is nothing else using that port or
IRQ. (A "cat /proc/interrupts" shows it unused.) I've got another com
port in the machine that normally has my mouse -- I put the modem on
there, and it doesn't work there either.
I've tried "setserial spd_vhi irq 3" on it, but no dice.
It doesn't even seem to matter what modem I use. I have two different
modems (one ISDN, one v.90), and neither one of them work on this port,
yet both modems and both cables work just fine on my Windows machine.
I have a different machine at the office running the same version of
Linux with an external modem (ISDN) and it works marvelously. Why this
machine refuses is beyond me.
I *must* be missing something here. Can anyone tell me what I have to
do to make this work?
================================================================
Robert Kesterson visit http://www.robertk.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thought for Thursday, May 06, 1999:
HEY YOU!!!!!!!!! STOP YELLING!!!!!!!!!!!!
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From: "Sushil Kamble" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux modem list.
Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 22:33:06 -0500
http://www.o2.net/~gromitkc/winmodem.html
You will find the modem list here.
Andrew Comech <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On 06 May 1999 09:19:43 -0400, Johan Kullstam wrote:
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> >
> >> Can anyone point me out to the place where they have
> >> a comprehensive list of all modems that can run
> >> under Linux.. dont wanna spend the damn $$$ and find
> >> out its some lousy Wind(woes) only compatible modem
> >> Thanks,
> >> Rajesh.
> >
> >if it says *external* on the box, i am 99.9% sure it will work.
>
> <loud>
>
> EXCEPT FOR EXTERNAL MODEMS WITH USR INTERFACE
>
> </loud>
>
> There are more and more of these bastards; not just 0.1%.
>
> a.
>
> --
> Looking for a Linux-compatible V.90 modem? See
> http://www.math.sunysb.edu/~comech/tools/CheapBox.html#modem
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From: "Colonel Panic�" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help! ISDN Motorola Bitsurfer Pro EZ w/ Lava Link 650 ISA
Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 00:20:29 -0400
hmmm...lookit this *old* post..
>From C.B. Powell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Organization Brick and Ivy Corporate Consulting
Date 27 Feb 1998 20:03:21 GMT
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.networking
Message-ID <6d7669$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
============================================================================
----
I don't know if this will help anyone, but I've _finally_ managed to
get my Motorola Bitsurfr Pro (external) to use the full 128K ISDN
bandwidth. The solution has been a bear, and largely put together
piecemeal from Usenet postings.
Anyway, the result seems to be a four-part exercise:
1) Proper stty settings
2) Proper setserial usage
3) Proper init string
4) Good serial card
For 1, I've employed the following stty command:
stty 38400 time 5 crtscts -ixon -ixoff < /dev/ttyS2
For 2, I'm using setserial 2.12, with the following command:
setserial /dev/ttyS2 spd_cust baud_base 230400 divisor 1 port 0x3E8 irq 9
This sets the DTE (computer-to-modem) speed to 230400 bps. Obviously
you'll need to substitute your own port/irq information.
For 3, I'm using this init string on the BSP (which I've saved to
nvram, BTW, for power-up default):
AT @p2=230400 W1 &F &C1 &D2 s0=0 %A2=95 @B0=2 %a4=0
As you can tell, this is for multilink-PPP at 128K.
For 4, I'm using a standard 2-port serial card with 16550A's. (I've
ordered a 16650 from Byterunner.) The card supports 2x-overclocking to
get the 230400 DTE rate, which is important.
Recap:
# stty -a < /dev/ttyS2
speed 38400 baud; rows 31; columns 82; line = 3;
intr = ^C; quit = ^\; erase = <undef>; kill = <undef>; eof = ^D; eol =
<undef>;
eol2 = <undef>; start = ^Q; stop = ^S; susp = ^Z; rprnt = ^R; werase = ^W;
lnext = ^V; flush = ^O; min = 1; time = 0;
-parenb -parodd cs8 hupcl -cstopb cread -clocal crtscts
ignbrk -brkint
ignpar -parmrk -inpck -istrip -inlcr -igncr -icrnl -ixon -ixoff
-iuclc -ixany -imaxbel
-opost -olcuc -ocrnl -onlcr -onocr -onlret -ofill -ofdel nl0 cr0 tab0 bs0
vt0 ff0
-isig -icanon -iexten -echo -echoe -echok -echonl -noflsh -xcase -tostop -ec
hoprt
-echoctl -echoke
# setserial -ag /dev/ttyS2
/dev/ttyS2, Line 2, UART: 16550A, Port: 0x03e8, IRQ: 2
Baud_base: 230400, close_delay: 50, divisor: 1
closing_wait: 3000, closing_wait2: infinte
Flags: spd_cust skip_test
I hope that this smooths the way for any others trying to accomplish this.
By the way, the result is that I've been getting > 14.5 KBps on a clean
FTP get. I don't know how the 16650 UART will change things, but
that's pretty darned good for a 16550A, no?
Regards,
Chris Powell
--
Christopher Powell Brick and Ivy Corporate Consulting
powell at brickandivy. com http://www.brickandivy.com/
-= A PGP key is available and gladly shared =-
>Paul Hem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi,
>
> Can anyone walk me through setting up my BitsurferPro EZ
> ISDN with my
> LavaLink 650 ISA ( now called LavaPort 650) with Caldera's
> Open Linux
> 2.2?
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From: Timothy Klein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: "comp.os,linux.setup",comp.os.linux.setup,"comp.os,linux.hardware"
Subject: Re: LILO refuses, stops after 'LI'
Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 22:26:52 -0600
Thanks much for the advise. The linear line worked like a charm! Now I
can boot from my hard drive or floppy! Yippee!
I also removed Maxtor's EZBios, because as it turns out I had no need
for it. My BIOS could handle large hard drives after all. I guess
that's what I get for trusting the software when it told me I had to
have it, huh?
Thanks again.
Tim
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