Linux-Hardware Digest #216, Volume #10           Wed, 12 May 99 11:13:24 EDT

Contents:
  Re: DFP digital LCD monitor, Matrox card, framebuffer/X woes (Roland Schmehl)
  Re: HELP W/ MANDRAKE 5.3 & SOUND ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Modem woes... (Miramyth)
  netserver lh pro (krohn)
  Micron TransPort Trek PCMCIA (Steve Unger)
  Re: Dual M/B recommendation please ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: making linux go away ("Scott L")
  Re: All the current OSes are idiotic (was Re: Is Windows for idiots?) (westprog)
  Fibre channel Ciprico on a Linux box (James Pearson)
  Re: Linux on Apple Macintosh SE30 (Len Huppe)
  Re: CD-RW's for Linux (Sam Brown)
  RedHat 6 : Large Disk: 14.1 GB (Eric Valade)
  Re: CD-RW's for Linux (killbill)
  Re: SCSI-U or SCSI-UW for scanners ? ("Piers B.")
  SCSI-U or SCSI-UW for scanners ? (Ekkard Gerlach)
  using old HD at ATAPI-Port (Ekkard Gerlach)
  Re: Tyan Thunderbolt 1837 ("S. G. Wright")
  Re: RedHat 6 : Large Disk: 14.1 GB (HAC)

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From: Roland Schmehl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: DFP digital LCD monitor, Matrox card, framebuffer/X woes
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 13:30:25 +0200

> Hi,
> 
> I do have a T55D with a Matrox G200 running here. I use VesaFB
> since the card itself is not supported. I recieved a code-fragment
> from Matrox (70 kB of pure assembler :) which describes the correct
> initialization of the DFP-Port of the card, but till now I did
> not have a free minute to test it (or even to try to understand it :).
> 
> Maybe you have more luck with the ATI Rage LT since there exist
> patched Xservers.
> 
> RGDS
>   Ronald
> 

Hi Ronald,
thanks for your reply! But there is still some confusion left:

   The ATI Rage LT has a DFP output, the IBM T55D a P&D connector. So, I
   conclude that these two parts of hardware do not work together at
all. 
   Is this true?
   The Matrox G200 (IBM T55D special version) is sold by IBM together
with
   the display but only with Windows and NT drivers. 
   Isn't it possible, to use original Matrox G200 drivers, e.g. from
SUSE,
   to drive the digital version of the card? When not, why (I couldn,t
get
   an answer from Matrox's helpline). 
   Even more, both, the analog and the digital version of the display
(T55A
   and T55D) obviously use the same drivers (Windows, NT). So, I figured 
   that Linux X-servers can do that, too?

After all these questions, would you recommend buing this LCD panel for 
using it with Linux?
RGDS
  Roland

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: HELP W/ MANDRAKE 5.3 & SOUND
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 11:36:04 GMT

--I have a section on recompiling the kernel at my Linux tips site:

http://members.xoom.com/_XOOM/rootski/linuxtips.html#kernelupgrade

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  "MaD HaTTeR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> oh... cause I had Caldera 1.3 installed before and i just typed KDE
and it
> took me to the GUI.  Except in Caldera, KDE and Startx looked totally
> different.
>
> Also, I don't think it installed the source files, I tried to
recompile the
> kernel but I got an error message.  I was logged in as root and in the
> /usr/src/linux directory.  How do I recompile the kernel?
>
> Peter Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > I was under the impression that KDE still needed to Xserver stuff
and was
> > run from a script that starts it on top of the Xserver.
> >
> > Therefore, thats why you get the "cannot connect messages" while
trying to
> > start KDE on its own.
> >
> > If I remember correctly, the location of the file that runs the
script to
> > start KDE was in my .xinitrc file on my home directory. I think the
entry
> in
> > here was "startkde" or something like that.
> >
> > MaD HaTTeR wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> > >I just Installed Mandrake 5.3 ($1.89 from Linuxmall.com) and the
install
> > >went great, except for one thing, my sound.
> > >
> > >When I type "kde", it gives me a bunch of "cannot connect to
xserver"
> > >messages for different sound modules, but I can type "startx" and
it
> takes
> > >me to kde and it works.  So now I d/l oss drivers but it says I
have to
> > >recompile the kernel to take out the sound.  When I recompile it,
do I
> have
> > >to put No for the "Enable sound" option?  Also, will this fix the
KDE
> > >loading problems?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Miramyth)
Subject: Modem woes...
Date: 12 May 1999 03:14:10 GMT

I have a Brand new zoom 56k v/f modem on a p-90 with plenty of ram and drive
space. I have a SB 16 sound card and an old Diamond Stealth s-3 video.

In windoze, my modem is on com 3.
kernel 2.0.35 - Slackware ( but I have a developers kit and am thinking of
switching to debian...)

Dmesg reports: Serial Driver 4.13 w/no serial options enabled...
         /dev/tty00 @ 03f8  irq 4  is a 16550a
         /dev/tty01 @ 02f8  irq 3  is a 16550a

setserial ( which to the best of my knowledge doesn't search a modem ) reports
           nothing... ( cept' for cuaX and so forth )

isapnp reports no boards found

did fuser -k /dev.....  nothing happened
   And finally, I've tried to initiate and send commands in bash...
#
#> echo "atdt /n" /dev/modem... /dev/cuaX.... /dev/ttySX... /dev/ttyX etc..

in every case nothing.. But in windoze, it runs like a champ.. ( go figure )
any suggestions on what to look at or do? I dont think slackware has any real
modem tools, and I only have seyon and bash to work with...

Thanks fer any help....

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Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 20:10:43 -0700
From: krohn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: netserver lh pro

i've been hand-me-downed an hp netserver lh pro. it is a dual-ppro 200,
and has a built-in raid controller. currently has 3 4 gb disks set up as
raid5, so i have 8 gb of disk space.

my problem is that i can't figure out what boot disk to use to recognize
the raid array as disk space. i own a slackware distribution on cd; the
7000fast.s image doesn't recognize the array, nor does the scsi.s image.

i tried some disk images from the debian distribution, their default
boot disk image sees the raid array with no problem. i'd so much rather
install the cd distribution than saturate my company T1 for several
hours.

anyone alse been through this before?

many thanks.


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From: Steve Unger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Micron TransPort Trek PCMCIA
Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 20:17:55 -0700

Anyone?
I have a Micron TransPort Trek. I have done my battles with this
machine. It will boot fine and all works well as long as I don't ask
install to install PCMCIA support.

When that support is included, the boot hangs at PCMCIA install
:modules.....forever.

Advice please?

Steve Unger


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Dual M/B recommendation please
Date: 12 May 1999 07:22:46 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: control over the bus frequency is needed (also control over 66/100
: override setting with Celeron)

the MSI-Adaptor provides a Jumper to overide the 66MHz-Request
from the Celeron.

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From: "Scott L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.caldera,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: making linux go away
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 07:54:12 -0500

maybe to actually run 90% of the applications he needs to that wont run on
Linux ? its remarks like this one below that gives linux users the name of
freaks - get a grip would you - theres no way to run a linux only business
environment unless you use very FEW apps
THEVENIN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> The question is : why do you want to remove Linux ?
>
>
> mike mathog wrote:
>
> > I did an install of Red Hat at one point, and now I just want it gone.
> >
> > Using FDISK to blow away the partitions though doesn't seem to do the
> > trick. The LILO boot still comes up. If I disconnect the drive and put
> > another one there even, then the machine just keeps asking me to reboot
> > over and over.
> >
> > How do I get rid of Linux in the boot sector (I guess that's where it
> > is) once and for all?
> >
> > thanks,
> > -mike
>



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From: westprog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: All the current OSes are idiotic (was Re: Is Windows for idiots?)
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 12:36:44 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> westprog wrote:
> >
> > In article <#HuM2M9i#[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >   "Olaf Appelt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >Fundamentally, I envisage a future system that is object-oriented
> > > in the way that Unix is file-oriented.

> > > Smalltalk?

> > There is a lot in Smalltalk, or Java, or Corba or even Com that
> > contains the
> > ideas that I would like to see in an OS. I don't want a single
> > language environment though.


> If what you're talking about is the idea of "objects" (such as files
> and
> commands or programs) being understood by the OS and having properties
> and actions encapsulated together, considder the r&d that is being
> done with the GNOME project and it's use of CORBA interface ideas.

I'll go and look at it at once.

> Fundamentally though, I don't see why the OS needs to worry about this
> level of abstraction - just as it doesn't need to worry about the GUI
> at
> the kernal level. It's just another layer of virtual machines that can
> be placed on top.

> The real trouble with all current OSs is the user interface and the
> paradigms and the interprogram interfaces. Window's GUI and X are both
> great for fascilitating common tasks, but hinder you when you want to
> do something the designer's didn't expect. On the other hand a pure
> text-based UI like UNIXs c shell doesn't give you cueues, but greatly
> facilitates joining tools together in new ways by the pipe construct
> and
> standard i/o. An OO paradigm for joining programs and data together
> (such as CORBA) is great, but I don't think it belongs in at the
> kernal level. imoh anyway 8)

Very little needs to be at the kernel level. The problem with the Unix
way of joining tasks is that the data needs to be packed at one end and
unpacked at the other - it has no inherent format, which is what CORBA,
for example, gives you.

J.


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From: James Pearson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Fibre channel Ciprico on a Linux box
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 11:50:31 GMT

As a test, I've installed a Ciprico 7000 (140Gb) array using a Qlogic
QLA-2100F card on a 350Mhz PII running kernel 2.2.5

I created one large partition (mke2fs took ages!) and it seems to work
fine. However, I could only get about 2Mbytes/s writes ... (I didn't
test reads as it took so long to get data on to the disk!)

I didn't do anything special to configure the Qlogic driver or the array
- is there anything I can do to "speed" it up?

Has anyone used a Ciprico array under Linux?

Thanks

James Pearson


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From: Len Huppe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux on Apple Macintosh SE30
Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 22:31:29 -0500

There is a Linux port being done by Apple for PowerMac systems available at
www.mklinux.org.  Another place to look is www.linuxppc.org.

Linux for M68K systems can be found at www.debian.org.  Drop a line to the
fine folks on comp.os.linux.m68k and I'm sure that they will try to help you
out.

good luck

"chris G�nther" wrote:

> Dear Gurus,
>
> I'm an absolute beginner in Linux on Mac (although I use Linux on PC for
> almost 4 years) and like to know if there is a possibility to install and
> run on an Apple Macintosh SE30.
> I don't want to do alot on this machine. It's thought to e used as a
> Web-Browser-based-User-Interface for our DB-Application.
>
> If anybody knows where to get the appropriate Linux and how to install it,
> pleeeeease drop me a note
>
>     thanx in advance
>     chris
>
>         [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 08:56:52 +0100
From: Sam Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CD-RW's for Linux

My Ricoh 6200S works fine under Linux.  xcdroast is convenient gui for
control.don'tk now HP72000.

donald-martin wrote:

> I am considering buying an HP 7200 CD-RW, but I see on their website
> that they only have software for Win 98 & NT.  I am reluctant to buy
> unless I can be sure it'll work with linux.  Anyone using it?  or any
> other CD-RW's?  Your feedback is appreciated.


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From: Eric Valade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RedHat 6 : Large Disk: 14.1 GB
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 15:42:40 +0200

DOes anyone have experience to install RH on a partition located
after 8 GB ?
My disk is IBM TravelStart 14 GS model DCYA 21400



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From: killbill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CD-RW's for Linux
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 13:37:50 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  donald-martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am considering buying an HP 7200 CD-RW, but I see on their website
> that they only have software for Win 98 & NT.  I am reluctant to buy
> unless I can be sure it'll work with linux.  Anyone using it?  or any
> other CD-RW's?  Your feedback is appreciated.

The short answer:
=================
Yes, it appears to be supported.

The long answer:
================
The tool you will likely be using to write your CDR and CDRW disks will
be cdrecord.

Look for it on www.freshmeat.net, or go direct to:
http://www.fokus.gmd.de/research/cc/glone/employees/joerg.schilling/private/c
drecord.html

There are great links from that page as to supported drives, and
information about getting your Linux system to work with the drive.  You
have to rebuild your kernal with SCSI emulation for now if you are using
an ATAPI drive, this requirement will likely go away in the near
future.  You do not need any kernal patches for any reasonably up to
date kernal source.

Once you get it installed and get it working, take a peak at:
 http://w3.one.net/~bilshell/backburner/backburner.html
for some software that will allow you to capture and play back any
streams to a CDR or CDRW disk, effectively allowing you to make
compressed file system archives or compressed disk images of any
partition or disk.

Ahhh the freedom of a backed up system.... I am FEARLESS :)!

--
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--"I believe, what I believe, has made me what I am.  I did not make
   it, It is making me, it is the very truth of God, not the invention
   of any man".  Rich Mullins, quoting G.K. Chesterton.


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From: "Piers B." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SCSI-U or SCSI-UW for scanners ?
Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 00:22:50 +1000

SCSI-U adapter will be enough for scanning. It is recomended to set the
scanner at 10Meg transfere rate for most scanners. The Advansys and Adaptec
PCI SCSI Adapters both do this. If you want to run internal SCSI drives then
go with the UW or U2W. There you will see 40Meg plus transfere rates and the
support for proper multitask disk environments unlike that lame excuse for a
drive interface IDE. It should be relegated to history like the 88/86 Intel
processors from where it came are.

Happy scanning.

Piers B.


Ekkard Gerlach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hello,
>
> which SCSI-adapter  is needed for actual scanners ? Are SCSI-U -
> Adapter  enough, or do I need SCSI-UW ?
>
>
> Is SCSI-UW able to handle SCSI-U harddisks ?  (Vice versa there is
> needed an adapter, I know)
>
>
> Thanks in advance.
> Ekkard
>
>



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From: Ekkard Gerlach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: SCSI-U or SCSI-UW for scanners ?
Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 13:21:10 +0000

Hello,

which SCSI-adapter  is needed for actual scanners ? Are SCSI-U -
Adapter  enough, or do I need SCSI-UW ?


Is SCSI-UW able to handle SCSI-U harddisks ?  (Vice versa there is
needed an adapter, I know)


Thanks in advance.
Ekkard



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From: Ekkard Gerlach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: using old HD at ATAPI-Port
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 14:16:09 +0000

Hello,

I want to fix my old HD (Pio2 ?) on my second ATAPI-Port (No
master-slave configuration, the second ATAPI-port is unused now.)  Does
my old and slow HD impact my first one , 3,4 GB Pio4 ?

thanks in advance
Ekkard




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From: "S. G. Wright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.tyan
Subject: Re: Tyan Thunderbolt 1837
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 10:37:03 -0400

>Chris, I have a S1836DLUAN-GX.  I have never had any negative experiences
>with the board.  When I did a fresh install of Windows 98, it automatically
>detected everything perfectly and the system was up very quickly.

Windows 98? Do you plan on using two CPUs under NT? I hope so... kind of a
waste of a dual CPU board. Let us know how it works out. Thanks.

Shaun



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From: HAC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RedHat 6 : Large Disk: 14.1 GB
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 14:31:05 GMT

Eric Valade wrote:
> 
> DOes anyone have experience to install RH on a partition located
> after 8 GB ?
> My disk is IBM TravelStart 14 GS model DCYA 21400

Make a /boot partition below 1024 cylinders.  The kernel needs to be
located where LILO can find it using BIOS calls, and the BIOS has some
pretty stupid limits.  But once the kernel is loaded, it can find the
rest of the disk.  These BIOS limits apply to all operating systems
running on PC's, not just Linux.

This assumes that you keep your kernel images in /boot, as Red Hat
does.  If you now have the kernel and system map files in /, create a
/boot directory, move the files, edit lilo.conf, and run lilo.

The Red Hat installer will take care of this for you if you tell it to
create a /boot partition.

bash# fdisk -l /dev/hda

Disk /dev/hda: 16 heads, 63 sectors, 6232 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 1008 * 512 bytes

   Device Boot    Start      End   Blocks   Id  System
/dev/hdd1             1      259   130504+  82  Linux swap
/dev/hdd2           260      265     3024   83  Linux native
/dev/hdd3           266     6232  3007368   83  Linux native

bash# cat /etc/fstab
/dev/hda3               /                       ext2    defaults       
1 1
/dev/hda2               /boot                   ext2    defaults       
1 2
/dev/hda1               swap                    swap    defaults       
0 0
/dev/fd0                /mnt/floppy             ext2    noauto         
0 0
/dev/cdrom              /mnt/cdrom              iso9660 noauto,ro      
0 0
none                    /proc                   proc    defaults       
0 0
none                    /dev/pts                devpts  mode=0622      
0 0

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