Linux-Hardware Digest #233, Volume #10 Fri, 14 May 99 11:13:27 EDT
Contents:
Re: AGP Video Card Driver (michael sulis)
PCI Modem - lost cause? (michael sulis)
Typedescription of ICP Vortex (Richard Mueller)
Re: Ultra DMA/66 hard drive problems (Sandra Silcot)
Re: OKI 4W printer (M. Buchenrieder)
Socket 7 (K-63) or Socket 370 (intel PPGA) for Linux? (Ana Gonzalez Marcos)
Re: removing cooling fans--how dangerous? (Justin The Cynical)
Re: Install AHA1542CP SCSI card
WARNING: www.thelinuxstore.com (Chuck Meador)
Re: PCI Modem - lost cause? ("Curt")
Re: Drivers for specialised hardware (Rajarshi Bandyopadhyay)
Re: ATI XPERT@PLAY 98 (John Cavan)
Linux on an embedded 486 (Bill Feero)
Q: monitor specs NEC and EIZO (Sven Utcke)
Re: All the current OSes are idiotic (was Re: Is Windows for idiots?) (Adrian Wynne)
Re: Can I use four IDE HD drives under Linux? (Geoff Short)
UDMA on SIS5513 chipset ? (Sebastian Kloska)
Re: ATI XPERT@PLAY 98 (Mircea)
Re: Socket 7 (K-63) or Socket 370 (intel PPGA) for Linux? (bryan)
Re: Does Linux work on AMD K6-3 processors? - Yes it does. (Glenn Merkel)
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Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 18:53:46 -0700
From: michael sulis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: AGP Video Card Driver
Gunnar Wolf wrote:
> > I have an AGP Video Card on my desktop and Linux doesn't seem to be
> > having a driver for this and so, I can't run X. I would appreciate it if
> > anyone can point me to a location where I can download if available.
i had the same problem with my Viper550 AGP card, it almost drove me crazy...
i WAS using XFree86 version 3.3.2 - which will NOT work (i later found out)
you have to go to http://www.xfree86.org and download and install the newest
version of Xfree86, version 3.3.3.1 - that one will work with RIVATNT chipset
cards...
one more thing, when i installed Xfree86 v.3.3.3.1 i could no longer use
"Xconfigurator" - it crashes, so i had to use "xf86config" which worked well.
it still couldn't detect the amount of RAM on my video card, so i had to go
into /etc/X11/XF86Config and remove the # from in front of the 'memory' line in
the video card definition, and type in the amount (for me it was 16384, which
is 16M)...
hope this helps... good luck!
michael
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Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 19:49:41 -0700
From: michael sulis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: PCI Modem - lost cause?
Hey there, just installed Redhat 5.1, no real troubles except for the
modem...
it's a 56K v.90 PCI modem, and it has no UART - so i'm not sure how to
get it to work... i've seen discouraging things here and there, but was
wondering if anyone knows of drivers being worked on or anything else
that might help me get it going...
it's a PCtel chipset, built by Newcom, ATI3 responds "PCtel 7.61MS" in
case anyone cares ;)
thanks for any help you might offer...
michael
(and yeah i know, external modem. what the hell was i thinking?)
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From: Richard Mueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Typedescription of ICP Vortex
Date: 14 May 1999 09:30:53 GMT
I have a question.
Can you give me a full typedescription of an ICP Vortex
RAID-Controller supported by linux.
I need this for ordering in a shop. :-)
Sorry for thus silly question
Richard
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sandra Silcot)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Ultra DMA/66 hard drive problems
Date: 14 May 1999 09:38:35 GMT
Andrew Comech wrote:
> I was stupid enough to get a newer Quantum CR UDMA/66 (4.3 GB) hard drive,
> instead of Quantum EX UDMA/33 (which I know is good), and now can not use
> DMA support at all.
>
> The kernel (2.2.5) has been compiled with DMA support, and when I use
> Quantum EX UDMA/33 drive, then, after boot-up, DMA is enabled,
> and hdparm -t reports buffered disk reads at about 12 MB/sec
> which is twice as much as when DMA is disabled.
>
> With Quantum CR UDMA/66 drive, DMA is disabled and can not be turned on.
> See the details below.
> hdparm -t reports buffered disk reads at about 5 MB/sec.
>
> I know that my motherboard was only mentioned to support UDMA/33, but
> why would this newer drive work slower? Is not there some backwards
> compatibility? Or should I just wait for a newer kernel?
You could try disabling the ata66 in the Quantum CR's. It should then
run as a normal ata33 drive and you might get your UDMA back.
Fireball CR ATA-66 Disable Utility
http://service.quantum.com/AppNotes/Award_ATA66.htm (info)
http://service.quantum.com/software/fbcrdma.exe (software)
UltraDMA 33/66 Change Utility for Fireball CR Drives
Version: 1.1
Size: 248,538 bytes
Description: Utility for disabling/enabling Ultra ATA/66 on Fireball CR
drives. Use this utility to resolve Windows 95/98/NT DMA compatibility
issues with Award BIOS's dated prior to 10/28/98. The utility must be
run
from either a DOS boot diskette or with the system restarted in MS-DOS
mode (Win 95/98).
Hope this helps,
Sandra Silcot [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Uni. of Melbourne, Parkville, VIC, Australia, 3052.
"To a person who only has a hammer, the whole world looks like a nail."
(Abraham Maslow)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (M. Buchenrieder)
Subject: Re: OKI 4W printer
Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 07:02:40 GMT
Paul Mannix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>Has anyone got any idea whether this printer can be persuaded to work
>under Linux? So far I can't persuade it to do so. I have tried various
>things with the /etc/printcap and it isn't having any of them.
It's called 4W because of the simple fact that this printer is made
for Windows only. If it had a PCL interface, one could perhaps get
at least some output from it, but I don't think it does .
Buy a real printer.
Michael
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From: Ana Gonzalez Marcos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Socket 7 (K-63) or Socket 370 (intel PPGA) for Linux?
Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 12:10:57 +0200
Hi,
Which of these configurations are better to work fine in linux?
The tests in W98 for Sockect 370 are better than socket 7, but I don't
sure what
happens in linux.
I like more AMD than INTEL, but if Intel is better I would buy a
motherboard Socket 370
with a encapsulate PPGA Celeron.
More or less, there is not differece between the prices of the two
possible configurations.
Thanks in advance
Ana
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Justin The Cynical)
Crossposted-To:
alt.comp.hardware,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,alt.comp.hardware.overclocking
Subject: Re: removing cooling fans--how dangerous?
Date: 14 May 1999 10:27:05 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 13 May 1999 08:21:41 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[snip]
->But seriously, heat dissipation of a heat sink is proportional to size
[snip]
Actually, IIRC, the more *surface area* a heat sink has is what makes
or breaks a given heat sink, not the size. So, if I am right, and I think I
am, a smaller heatsink with more surface area (i.e. more 'fins') will work
better than a large block of heat sink metal that has no fins. There is a
reason there are so many fins on a sink.
In any case, I don't see why people complain about noisy fans and
computers. I'd rather have a noisy but cool system than a quiet one that looks
like it was made by Dali. :-) I'm become so used to hearing my fans and
drives spinning, if I had a real quiet system, I would wonder what was wrong.
I guess this makes me a real geek, eh?
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From: <>
Subject: Re: Install AHA1542CP SCSI card
Date: 14 May 1999 11:02:02 GMT
Stephen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schreibt: > I am using RH 5.2 and want to install a ISA PnP
Adaptec 1542CP
> controller to it. But I don't know what to do after I put the card in.
> Anyone can tell me how to do it?
When you are booting with loadlin, then you must know the portadress and your interrupt
of your aha1542cf. If you are booting with lilo, you should use isapnp for initializing
the controller with the correct paramaters. Best thing to do, is to read the howto's
and
manuals (sourcecode e. g.).
Bye
Armin Kaiser
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From: Chuck Meador <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: WARNING: www.thelinuxstore.com
Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 07:25:57 -0400
I would advise against ordering anything from www.thelinuxstore.com.
My personal experience is that they are inept and unresponsive. I
ordered a system from them and when it arrived, there was no monitor and
the keyboard and mouse were serial (vs PS2). I find it really difficult
to use a computer with no monitor, keyboard or mouse.
After a week and 3 e-mails, absolutely NO RESPONSE.
Let the buyer beware.....
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Reply-To: "Curt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Curt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: PCI Modem - lost cause?
Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 06:43:41 -0500
It is probably a winmodem, they don't work under linux. They depend on
proprietary code that must
run on the systems CPU.
michael sulis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hey there, just installed Redhat 5.1, no real troubles except for the
> modem...
>
> it's a 56K v.90 PCI modem, and it has no UART - so i'm not sure how to
> get it to work... i've seen discouraging things here and there, but was
> wondering if anyone knows of drivers being worked on or anything else
> that might help me get it going...
>
> it's a PCtel chipset, built by Newcom, ATI3 responds "PCtel 7.61MS" in
> case anyone cares ;)
>
> thanks for any help you might offer...
> michael
> (and yeah i know, external modem. what the hell was i thinking?)
>
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From: Rajarshi Bandyopadhyay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Drivers for specialised hardware
Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 15:46:00 +0530
Alpine wrote:
> but the c++ source code will compile under linux and work
> and will also compile under wincrap platform
> if it would help you i would be happy to provide you with the source
> codes for the drivers
Sure, I don't mind getting the code. Please mail it to me if possible at
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TIA
Raj
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From: John Cavan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ATI XPERT@PLAY 98
Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 12:06:06 GMT
I'm using it with the Mach64 server without problem with the latest version
of X.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> According to the SuSE Web site, this graphics cards is 'probably'
> supported by X:3.3.3:mach64. Can anyone confirm that this card will work
> with Linux?.
>
> Many thanks.
>
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From: Bill Feero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux on an embedded 486
Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 12:57:44 GMT
<!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en">
<html>
I need to create a 4-port terminal server on an diskless 486 based embedded
system. This system will not have a hard or floppy drive, display, keyboard,
or BIOS. It will have 16 Megs of RAM, 2 Megs of Flash to store the image
and file system, 4 serial ports, and a network connection. I have the HOWTO
on creating a boot floppy, can I create a bootable RAMDISK? If I can, then
I can save the ramdisk and download it into the flash on the target 486.
I have RedHat v5.2, does anyone know if I can compile the kernel so it
has no BIOS calls? I would think removing the PC devices (hard drive, display,
keyboard, etc) these calls would also go.
<p>Any help would be appreciated since I am a newbe to Linux.
<p>Bill</html>
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From: Sven Utcke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Q: monitor specs NEC and EIZO
Date: 14 May 1999 15:45:56 +0200
Hi,
I got the following old monitors and would like to know what they are
capable of doing:
* NEC MultiSync 3V JC-1535MB
* EIZO FlexScan 9070s
the manufacturers do not provide any info (probably to old), so I
thought maybe someone here could help?
Thanks
Sven
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From: Adrian Wynne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: All the current OSes are idiotic (was Re: Is Windows for idiots?)
Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 15:18:02 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tempman1 wrote:
> I agree that all OSes are somewhat idiotic. Almost everything is built by one one
> vendor sent to the customer as a giant piece of code.
>
> I would be nice if an OS could be broken into several major components that
> follow the specifications. Each component could then be developed by a different
> company. Finally, all the components could be stitched together to form an OS.
> This is the way hardware is built. Why not software too?
>
In a sense all(?) operating systems already do this, e.g.
- each o/s has a published specification for other vendors to provide device drivers
- there is some standard way of installing new application software from other
vendors
What you can't do with most mainstream operating systems is mess with the kernel
(e.g. replace the process scheduler with your own algorithm). If you want to do this
sort of thing, you're probably not in the mainstream operating system market and
should be looking at specialist operating systems (e.g. real-time) or Linux or
whatever.
On a philisophical note ...
Not too long ago when the world was dominated by hardware, a operating system was
simply an abstraction layer between applications and hardware. The idea was to
protect application writers from the vagueries of hardware manufacturers.
The problem is that nowadays operating system vendors can include anything from a
windowing library to a web browser, and you need interfaces to drive them all.
Several vendors have attempted to introduce componont-based interfaces to drive
these, of which the most notable attempt is probably OLE/COM/etc.
As a result of all this "progress", however, it seems operating systems are now more
of a compatibility issue than hardware ever was and we need abstraction layers (like
Java) to protect us from the vagueries of the operating system vendors.
It's a funny old world.
> Tempman1
adrian
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Geoff Short)
Subject: Re: Can I use four IDE HD drives under Linux?
Date: 14 May 1999 13:13:41 GMT
Dave Ewart ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: I am considering my options regarding the specification of a Linux box to
: function as a mass storage server ...
:
: My question is: is there any reason why I could not use four large IDE hard
: drives under Linux? [I'm not sure how they would be partitioned, that's
: really a different issue.] Does anyone have experience of doing this?
No personal experience, but linux supports up to eight ide devices as
standard. (/usr/src/linux/Documentation/ide.txt) If you are using
standard PC hardware you'd need to buy another ide controller, and make
sure one can be configured as ide2 and ide3, leaving the other as the
default ide0 and ide1.
Geoff
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From: Sebastian Kloska <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: UDMA on SIS5513 chipset ?
Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 15:36:38 +0200
Hi
I've tried to activate UDMA on my Digitale Venturis FX with the
kernel 2.2.5. During startup the ide driver tells me that it
detects a SIS5513 chipset but that DMA seems to be deactivated in the
bios.
The controler claims that it is DMA able. (hdparm -i /dev/hdb), but
when I try to activate it (hdaparm -d1 ) the operation isn't permitted.
The bios setup doesn't seem to give me any chance to change th IO mode
to dma. Only PIO 1 - 4 and 'Standard' is allowed and none of this work.
Does it make any sense to try activating UDMA on that motherboard ?
thanks
Sebastian
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From: Mircea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ATI XPERT@PLAY 98
Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 09:58:40 -0400
Yes it does. I've had countless problems using the Mach64 server with
it, though, so I use the SVGA one instead, and everything is OK.
According to the posts, not many people have this kind of trouble, but
it's good to keep that in mind.
MST
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> According to the SuSE Web site, this graphics cards is 'probably'
> supported by X:3.3.3:mach64. Can anyone confirm that this card will work
> with Linux?.
>
> Many thanks.
>
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From: bryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Socket 7 (K-63) or Socket 370 (intel PPGA) for Linux?
Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 14:05:45 GMT
Ana Gonzalez Marcos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Hi,
: Which of these configurations are better to work fine in linux?
: The tests in W98 for Sockect 370 are better than socket 7, but I don't
: sure what
: happens in linux.
either will work, of course. the celerons are quite fast these days,
and still cheaper than the k6-3.
: I like more AMD than INTEL, but if Intel is better I would buy a
: motherboard Socket 370
: with a encapsulate PPGA Celeron.
: More or less, there is not differece between the prices of the two
: possible configurations.
last time I looked, a high end k6-3 was over $200. my cel 300a was
less than $100.
my cel 300a is much much faster than the k6-2/300 I used to run. fwiw.
--
Bryan
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.misc
From: Glenn Merkel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Does Linux work on AMD K6-3 processors? - Yes it does.
Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 13:53:31 GMT
I have a ASUS P5A motherboard, Samsung 64MB PC100 CAS2 Memory, Quantum
10GB HD, Voodoo3 Video Card, SB PCI 128 Sound Card, CL Encore 2X DVD-ROM
drive, HP 8100i CD-RW Drive, and a AMD K6-3 400 CPU.
I'm currently dual-booting Windows 98 and Linux, until I receive my Beta
3 release of NT 2000. Then I'm going to try triple-booting, since NT
will be able to recognize the FAT32 drive like Linux can.
Anyway... the system runs great, except for a lack of Linux drivers for
the Voodoo3, and my inexperience with Linux. Installed using Red Hat
6.0, downloaded from the web, btw.
And as far as thermal grease with your fan, etc. What a load of crap.
I fell for that with my Celeron 366MHz, when I thought maybe I could run
at 550MHz thanks to Sharky Extreme and other sites. Well, despite a $70
fan and grease... I didn't get jack except a high priced fan that
doesn't do much more than my retail one did. My K6-3 400MHz has a
CompUSA fan & heatsink that cost $15... and while it was overpriced, it
seems to get the job done.
Just my $.02.
Glenn
Ian Nicholls wrote:
>
> I have just upgraded my PC from an AMD K6 233Mhz to an AMD K6-3 400Mhz and,
> although Windows 95 runs OK, I have been having problems with the X server
> since the upgrade. I have been using Daryll Strauss's Banshee server: it
> worked just great with the K6 processor, but wouldn't work with the K6-3.
> Not only that, but in attempting to understnd more about the problem, the
> machine would hang, necessitating a re-boot without a proper shutdown. This
> corrupted various files, so I decided to re-install Red Hat 5.2, which is
> the version of Linux I am using.
>
> Now I cannot even re-install Linux. I get as far in the installation as
> choosing the packages, and then the install fails with a "Signal 11" error.
> Is there a basic incompatibility between AMD K6-3 (and presumably K6-2)
> processors and the version of Linux I am using? Am I just unlucky with this
> particular chip or my PC setup? Any help and advice would be welcome.
>
> The other hardware is as follows:-
>
> AOpen AX59Pro motherboard with 1Mb cache
> 192Mb of SDRAM
> Processor running at 400Mhz, FSB at 100Mhz and memory at 66Mhz (a feature of
> the VIA chipset)
> 6.5 and 4.3 Gb harddiscs
> approx 2Gb Linux partition and 128Mb Linux swap partition
> Creative Banshee graphics card
> SBLive! soundcard
>
> This has me baffled, since there are now commercial PCs on sale running
> Linux and with AMD K6-2s! I have tried the installation after turning off
> the external cache in the BIOS setup, but still no joy.
>
> Waiting hopefully
>
> Ian Nicholls
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