Linux-Hardware Digest #413, Volume #10 Fri, 4 Jun 99 21:13:33 EDT
Contents:
Kernel too large, why? ("David Murray")
X-server for Intel 810 'Whitney' chipset (or i752) ("Christof Windeck")
Re: ps dont work??? ("David Murray")
Re: DVD-RAM anybody? (Swietanowski Artur)
Re: Deleted /dev/sd* by mistake!!! How to remake them? (Tom Daley)
Re: Windows easy to install? BULLSHIT! (Daniele Bernardini)
DNS problem. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Linux on Presario 1210 laptop (Syd Logan)
Re: IBM 0669 ESDI hard disk parameters? (Robert =?iso-8859-1?Q?H=F6gberg?=)
modem for laptop? (Charles T. Young)
Re: Linux and Lexmark 5700 (Steve Pacenka)
Re: Newbee needs help (Elijah Menifee)
PCchips M598 Motherboard and Linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: 2.2.5-15 kernel eats memory! (Marc Mutz)
Re: ATI Rage 128 ("Dan")
Re: 2.2.5-15 kernel eats memory! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Diamond Monster Sound ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: MCA and Linux ?!? (Walt Shekrota)
Re: Need help getting monitor info ("John Smith")
Re: Upgrade from 2.0 to 2.2! How will it affect the user? (John Thompson)
Re: Windows easy to install? BULLSHIT! (Daniele Bernardini)
Re: 2.2.5-15 kernel eats memory! (William Burrow)
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From: "David Murray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Kernel too large, why?
Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 14:07:10 GMT
I keep asking this but nobody has come up with a logical answer! I can't
recompile my kernel on RedHat 6.0.. When I run LILO it tells me that the
kernel is too big. The thing is, I am using a compressed kernel and it is
only about 470K. What is more odd than this is that the kernel that RedHat
6 comes with by default is much larger, over a megabyte. Why is it that
LILO can use that one, but not my new kernel? I need to get Video4Linux
compiled into the kernel with my capture devices.. I also like to have my
kernel compiled with Pentium optimizations. What is going on here?
--DavidM
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From: "Christof Windeck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: X-server for Intel 810 'Whitney' chipset (or i752)
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 15:07:56 +0200
Hello!
Does anyboby know, if a currently available driver exists, supporting
the new Intel 'Whitney' chipset (Intel 810 with integrated graphics
controller i752)?
If not, is anyone scheduling a development of such driver?
Thanx,
--
Christof Windeck
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From: "David Murray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ps dont work???
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 14:10:18 GMT
I'm not sure if your TV card is specifically supported, but a few are..
The reason your processes may not be showing is that they don't
specifically belong to root. You might try using a command like "ps -ax"
for example, which will show all the processes currently running whether
they are root processes or not.
> 1. I cannot see the processes running when i use ps from any console or
> terminal as root...
> I use Slackware40 with its original kernel...
>
> 2. Will i be able to use my TV card under Linux? Its FlyView. When i was
> "trying" to compile the kernel i saw someting related to TV cards... If
> i will be able to use it how, which options should i put in the kernel?
> Anyone knows a site which i can find some information?
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From: Swietanowski Artur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: DVD-RAM anybody?
Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 15:31:07 +0200
Jun Yang wrote:
> Is DVD-RAM supported on Linux? I can't find it in the HOWTOs.
> Thanks!
Search the archives of this group on Dejanews. It was discussed
a few times in the last 3 months or so.
HTH,
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Artur Swietanowski mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Institut f�r Statistik, Operations Research und Computerverfahren,
Universit�t Wien, Universit�tsstr. 5, A-1010 Wien, Austria
tel. +43 (1) 427 738 620 fax +43 (1) 427 738 629
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Daley)
Subject: Re: Deleted /dev/sd* by mistake!!! How to remake them?
Date: 4 Jun 1999 14:06:50 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Gen. Sisyphus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>
> In an ongoing effort to get my zip and cdrw working, I managed to delete
> /dev/sd*.
>
> How do I recreate these files?
>
mknod /dev/sda b 8 0
mknod /dev/sda1 b 8 1
mknod /dev/sda2 b 8 2
mknod /dev/sda3 b 8 3
mknod /dev/sda4 b 8 4
this goes on to sda15
mknod /dev/sdb b 8 16
mknod /dev/sdb1 b 8 17
mknod /dev/sdb2 b 8 18
mknod /dev/sdb3 b 8 19
mknod /dev/sdb4 b 8 20
All of the sd* device files on my system are mode 640 and ownership
is root:disk.
brw-r----- 1 root disk 8, 0 Apr 29 1995 /dev/sda
brw-r----- 1 root disk 8, 1 Apr 29 1995 /dev/sda1
There is also a script on my system (Slackware) that makes all of the devices.
/dev/MAKEDEV.
You should only need to mknod the device files for disks you have on
your system. Once booted you can run MAKEDEV.
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From: Daniele Bernardini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Windows easy to install? BULLSHIT!
Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 16:22:04 +0200
Thlayli wrote:
> I like this part. If you had to recompile the kernel, then it didn't work
> "right out of the box".
>
Apart from the fact that configuring + recompiling the kernel took less
then 20 mins (10 of which I was surfing the web), I could have just
configured everything with "yast" which is a nice utility which
helps you configuring net cards, modems, printers and so on, and this
utility would then load the right modules to recognize this
hardware. But I recompiled the kernel because having the source
code of the OS you ca taylor the system to fit your own hardware!
BTW with linux you can load modules without a reboot, you can
initialize pnp hardware without a reboot. The only thing you need a
reboot for is a new kernel. which is a once in a year job usually.
With windows every driver need a new reboot! try to count the
reboots it needed your windows to install, drivers included, and
we will see if you come down to one!
FORGOT also repartitioning does not need a reboot with linux!
This is science fiction for MS users.
Speaking about GUI with Linux you can choose among tons of different
ones, all have virtual desktops, most have panel, taskbars, extensive
configuration options and most of all they work through an TCP/IP
connection. At our department we have two old 486 with 17" monitors
working as graphical terminals for some biffy double pentium2
and alpha servers. Both terminals and servers have Linux.
Again try to do that with windows.
Still for the gui my KDE crushes fewer times than either my w98
or my w95, and it does not bring down the system as windows does.
KDE is reality now and GNOME is on the way.
My opinion.
Daniele
--
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Daniele Bernardini
Sektion Theoretische Physik, LMU Muenchen
Theresienstr. 37, 80805 Muenchen DEUTSCHLAND
Tel: +49 (89) 23944378
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.theorie.physik.uni-muenchen.de/~dani/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: DNS problem.
Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 22:55:56 GMT
I just installed Linux (RedhHat 5.2) last weekend and am still trying
to get connected to my ISP without success. I have a USR 56k external
faxmodem that will dial and connect if I load the interface at boot.
It will disconnect and then redial again continually as long as I'm in
Linux. Allof my PPP info is correct. When I open Netscape and try to
connect to a URL I always get the same error: "Netscape:error.
Netscape is unable to locate the server. The server does not have a
DNS entry." In linuxconf I have added the DNS correctly to no avail.
Any help would be much appreciated! Is there a web site with
extensive info on configuring Linux to connect to the net?
Thanks.
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From: Syd Logan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux on Presario 1210 laptop
Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 16:26:29 -0700
I've been a real happy owner of a Presario 1210 laptop, and have been
running Linux on it for about 7 months. I just added a 6GB drive and got
Linux successfully working with it (although I have to boot from floppy
because of known problems with larger drive geometries). No big deal, I
can live with that.
A week ago I called the dudes who added the hard drive, and asked about
memory upgrades. I currently have 2 memory modules, 1 16MB and the other
32MB, both which total 48MB (in case you can't do the math :-) and Linux
sees all of this. I was told I could add a couple of 64MB modules no
problem.
The viking data book says the computer has 1 slot free and 1 16MB
soldered on the moboard but that isn't actually the case, I can get at
both cards easily and remove them. So, we placed the 2 64MB cards in and
booted. Linux (Red Hat 5.1, kernel 2.0.34) sees on 64MB. We restored the
original 16MB and left in a 64MB, still only sees 64MB.
I did (gasp) allocate 2GB on my disk for Windoze 95 (I need that very
rarely for work) and so we rebooted into 95 with the 2 64MB cards
installed. It reported 128MB. So, it would appear to be a software
issue.
Any comments, or ideas? I don't really want to upgrade since 5.1 runs
fine and I have spent a lot of time configuring things to work as I need
them. On the otherhand, if I get an authoritative statement regarding
support in a later version of the kernel, then I will likely do it,
since I use this thing as a development box, and continually need to go
to swap in order to complete my builds (e.g., 48MB ain't enough).
If any of you have a 1210 that you want to run Linux on, with a few
minor tweeks, it is a pretty good machine.
Tx,
syd
netscape
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From: Robert =?iso-8859-1?Q?H=F6gberg?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage
Subject: Re: IBM 0669 ESDI hard disk parameters?
Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 01:29:12 +0100
I'm running my model 80, with a 70Mb HDD with the following parameters:
append="eda=70,64,32" in lilo.conf and just eda=70,64,32 as a bootparam.
Of course the chs values aren't valid for other sizes of HDDs but the correct
values can easily be obtained by a diagnosticsprogram such as snooper and
sysconfig.
Hope it works for you
Robert
Georg Schwarz wrote:
> Does anyone happen to know the specs (heads, sectors, ...) for an IBM
> type 0669 ESDI hard disk (full height)? I'm trying to install Linux on an
> IBM model 80, and it does not recognize it. With DOS, which is still
> running on that hard disk (because fdisk /dev/eda does not work :-)), the
> disk works fine. I'm hoping that spefifing those parameters with lilo
> might help Linux recognize the disk (the ESDI controller is recognized).
> --
> Georg Schwarz ([EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], PGP 2.6ui)
> Institut f�r Theoretische Physik +49 30 314-24254 FAX -21130 IRC kuroi
> Technische Universit�t Berlin http://home.pages.de/~schwarz/
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From: Charles T. Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: modem for laptop?
Date: 4 Jun 1999 14:23:44 GMT
Could someone recommend a modem for use with Linux on a laptop?
(It would be helpful to know the price you paid and the store.)
I bought a nice Gateway Solo laptop in December, but was unaware
that I should avoid WinModems, and am stuck with one. Please reply
by email, if possible.
Thanks
Chuck Young
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Steve Pacenka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux and Lexmark 5700
Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 19:40:52 -0400
Frank Kraft wrote:
> has anywhere an idea, which driver (or compatible) do I need for
> printing with a lexmark 5700.
Looks like a beginning of one here:
http://bimbo.fjfi.cvut.cz/~paluch/l7kdriver/
-- SP
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From: Elijah Menifee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Newbee needs help
Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 23:50:04 GMT
Gerald Ruiter wrote:
> Some problems I have encoutered:
>
> I have tried mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /mnt/win to mount my windows partition,
> but now I get the following message: wrong fs type, bad option, bad
> superblock on /dev/hda1, or too many mounted file system.
>
after trying to mount type:
cat /proc/filesystems
it should list all the filesystem types that the kernel supports, if vfat is not
listed, try recompiling the kernel and under filesystem support make sure that
the option for ms-dos and vfat are selected.
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Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 11:09:57 -0400
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: PCchips M598 Motherboard and Linux
I am getting a PCchips M598 motherboard with audio and video on-board. I
am wondering if the motherboard and the mentioned components are
compatible with Linux. Please share your experience, links to sites with
configuration info, config files etc.
Any help is greately appreciated.
Leonid
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 23:13:05 +0200
From: Marc Mutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: 2.2.5-15 kernel eats memory!
Clarence Riddle wrote:
>
> I had the same problem. I think it is the apps that you are running.
>
open a new xterm or console and run top. Then watch the app's while
doing your things. This will help you figure out if there are any
processes which consume too much memory. Netscape for example often
grows to more than 30M!
Marc Mutz
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From: "Dan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ATI Rage 128
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 19:49:21 -0400
No it will not work. the Mach64 is a completely different chipset from the
128 family (128 GL and 128 VR).
search through this newsgroup to find links to web sites that guide you how
to get the ATI Rage 128 chipset cards to work through X-Framebuffer.
dan
Bryan Scott wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
[snip]
>
>Have you tried the Mach64 Server?
>Haben Sie das Mach64 Server probiert?
>
>(Will that work?)
>
>-- Bryan Scott
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: 2.2.5-15 kernel eats memory!
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 00:08:08 GMT
According to Joe Robertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I don't get this.. I'm running RedHat 6.0 with a minimum of services.. and
> after a reboot, my free memory is only about 24MB(out of 64). A few hours
> later, I have about 1.7MB free, and my swap starts to become active.. I do
> not have many users, nor memory-eating apps.. it all seems to go into
> "cached" memory.. Now cache is nice, but I don't want all my available
> memory allocated to it! And I want to avoid swap usage... can anyone
> help??
There is no point in having physical memory sitting arround unused, so
Linux caches just about everything until the memory is exhausted.
When an application requests more memory, the least-used data in the
cache is flushed and given to the app the requested it.
If you wish to watch this graphically as it happens, just install the
xosview package and watch your memory usage as you run various tasks.
I have noticed that even on systems with a lot of physical memory
there is usually a small bit of swap space active even when there is
some free physical memory. I do not have an explanation for this, but
it does appear that there is usually very little paging involved to
this swap memory, so it does make sense to keep it in swap space and
keep the physical memory for cache.
-p.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Diamond Monster Sound
Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 23:19:03 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Leejay Wu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Excerpts from netnews.comp.os.linux.hardware: 3-Jun-99 Diamond Monster
> Sound by Sean [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > I was wondering if there are any drivers for the Diamond Monster
Sound
> > card (Aureal Vortex chipset, I believ). I remember last I checked,
I
> > found a list saying the ships were new (which isn't all that true,
is
> > it?) and that drivers haven't been developed yet. However, I also
> > remember reading somehwere that Diamond now fully supports the Linux
> > community, so I would guess there'd be drivers out now, but I can't
find
> > any. Any help, anyone?
>
> Go write Aureal; AFAIK, they've released information under NDA to
OpenSound,
> which may let you get a time-limited beta for dl, or buy a
non-time-limited
> beta. The ALSA Project has Aureal on their blacklist, as Aureal has
> apparently refused to release enough specs yet.
>
> > Sean Middleditch
>
I too am trying to install an original Diamond Monster 3D sound card
under Linux (RH6.0).
I phoned Diamond technical support today where a (rather rude) technical
support person informed me that the Monster sound is not currently
supported under Linux, that there are no plans to provide support, and
that Diamond had no information for me at all on how I could enable my
card under Linux. Ok, so no help there.
I looked at OpenSound (www.opensound.com) and they have a Shareware
Vortex driver, but I'm pretty sure that the Diamond Monster 3D sound
(original, MX80 and MX200) do not actually contain Aureal chips. It
looks the chipset is made by Analog Devices and that A3D support is
programmed into the DSP. I base this on the tech sheet at Diamond's web
site and the information at Aureal's web site.
So, I'm guessing that the only way this card is going to work under
Linux is if we (the Linux/programming community) enable it. On the
other hand, Diamond was spectacularly unhelpful and I'm more inclined to
go and buy an old ISA $20 SB-compatible card.
Good luck to you all.
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
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From: Walt Shekrota <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: MCA and Linux ?!?
Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 20:02:41 -0400
Matthew Pound wrote:
>
> Well i tried to install linux un my ps/2 model 70 but i couldn't
> get the bootdisk to work. 5.2 hangs on the pci_init and 6.0 seems to
> hang after vga goes to 80X25 mode. Which it is already in, heh. Any
> thoughts on how to do this?
>
> Bryan Scott ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> : [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> : >
> : > I have heard that it is now possible to run Linux on a PS/2 with micro
> : > channel architecture. Has anyone ever attempted this installation? This
> : > machine of mine comes without (!) CD-ROM, has 8MB of RAM and has a
> : > 212MB SCSI HDD. I welcome any ideas, recommendation, sites, etc.
> : >
> : > Thanks,
> : > Marcus
> : >
> : > --== Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ ==--
> : > ---Share what you know. Learn what you don't.---
>
> : Anyone done anything with the MCA AT1700 network cards? Linux can't
> : seem to find it, no matter which slot it's in.
>
> : I'd like to set up the box for NFS/root, as it's too small and slow for
> : anything else (6MB RAM, 60MB HDD, 386).
>
> : -- Bryan Scott
>
> --
> To contact via email pounm000 AT unbc DOT ca
Try Slackware .... I used 3.6 make the boot from ibmmca.s and a root.
Using a model 80 (386) 12 meg.
-Walt
But then it could just be the difference in hardware.
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From: "John Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Need help getting monitor info
Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 11:26:06 GMT
Ive found this page to be very helpful for finding data on older
monitorshttp://www.monitorworld.com/index.html
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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Upgrade from 2.0 to 2.2! How will it affect the user?
Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 07:29:20 -0600
"Gen. Sisyphus" wrote:
> How will this upgrade affect anybody who's not root?
Assuming "root" has read the
"/usr/src/linux/Documentation/Changes" file and configured
things properly, the user shouldn't notice much of anything
different except perhaps better performance.
--
-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: Daniele Bernardini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Windows easy to install? BULLSHIT!
Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 15:47:07 +0200
Thlayli wrote:
> I like this part. If you had to recompile the kernel, then it didn't work
> "right out of the box".
>
Apart from the fact that configuring + recompiling the kernel took less
then 20 mins (10 of which I was surfing the web), I could have just
configured everything with "yast" which is a nice utility which
helps you configuring net cards, modems, printers and so on, and this
utility would then load the right modules to recognize this
hardware. But I recompiled the kernel because having the source
code of the OS you ca taylor the system to fit your own hardware!
BTW with linux you can load modules without a reboot, you can
initialize pnp hardware without a reboot. The only thing you need a
reboot for is a new kernel. which is a once in a year job usually.
With windows every driver need a new reboot! try to count the
reboots it needed your windows to install, drivers included, and
we will see if you come down to one!
FORGOT also repartitioning does not need a reboot with linux!
This is science fiction for MS users.
Speaking about GUI with Linux you can choose among tons of different
ones, all have virtual desktops, most have panel, taskbars, extensive
configuration options and most of all they work through an TCP/IP
connection. At our department we have two old 486 with 17" monitors
working as graphical terminals for some biffy double pentium2
and alpha servers. Both terminals and servers have Linux.
Again try to do that with windows.
Still for the gui my KDE crushes fewer times than either my w98
or my w95, and it does not bring down the system as windows does.
KDE is reality now and GNOME is on the way.
My opinion.
Daniele
--
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Daniele Bernardini
Sektion Theoretische Physik, LMU Muenchen
Theresienstr. 37, 80805 Muenchen DEUTSCHLAND
Tel: +49 (89) 23944378
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.theorie.physik.uni-muenchen.de/~dani/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Burrow)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: 2.2.5-15 kernel eats memory!
Date: 5 Jun 1999 00:26:02 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 3 Jun 1999 15:49:50 -0500,
Joe Robertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I don't get this.. I'm running RedHat 6.0 with a minimum of services.. and
>after a reboot, my free memory is only about 24MB(out of 64). A few hours
>later, I have about 1.7MB free, and my swap starts to become active.. I do
>not have many users, nor memory-eating apps.. it all seems to go into
>"cached" memory.. Now cache is nice, but I don't want all my available
>memory allocated to it! And I want to avoid swap usage... can anyone
>help??
This must be a FAQ. Of course you want all your unused memory
allocated to cache, what else is it good for? Once there is a need for
it, the cache is freed and the memory put to good use.
As for using swap, again, that is very cheap memory, putting it to good
use is highly desirable. Unused programs and unused data in active
programs gets pushed out to make more high speed RAM available for other
processes. This has nothing to do with the problem of memory starvation
that most people associate swap usage. That problem is detected by a
rapid, continuous machine gun like sound from the drives.
--
William Burrow -- New Brunswick, Canada o
Copyright 1999 William Burrow ~ /\
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