Linux-Hardware Digest #445, Volume #10 Wed, 9 Jun 99 00:13:41 EDT
Contents:
Re: Linux on closed platforms? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: However my ATI RAGE 128 AGP 8MB =?iso-8859-1?Q?doesn=B4t?= work (javierlt)
Re: Backup recommendations? (Dominic Mitchell)
Re: Available: Linux driver for IBM ThinkPad ACP modem
Re: Sound Card Problem (james daniels)
Re: Sound Card problem (Kevin der Kinderen)
Fonts look terrible on XFrre86 with NeoMagic 128XD video ("Steve Snyder")
Re: Is ATI Xpert 99 AGP 8Mb supported with Linux 6.0? ("Dan")
Re: parallel port-super p6dbe (Mike Persell)
Linux and Western Digital 13G hard disk (Yan Zhou)
Re: Backup recommendations? (Matthias Kilian)
Re: USB support? (Byron A Jeff)
Re: Linux on closed platforms? (Jerry)
Re: Cd-rom Install Problem ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Linux on closed platforms?
Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 00:38:22 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> I work for a company that develops proprietary systems in a highly
> competitive industry. Our systems contain intellectual property
either
> developed by us or licensed from others. In addition, much of this
> intellectual property is under strict export control. In summary, our
> systems are not likely to become open anytime in the near future.
>
> We have used numerous commercial operating systems (some more
> $commercial$ than others). I would like nothing better than to use
> Linux in the next product, but I'm having trouble reconciling the
terms
> of the GPL with my company's interests.
>
> Please understand that my interest is not to exploit the free software
> community but to support it as best I can by promoting it through my
> company's products. We are in the business of selling systems, not
> software applications, and the savings of moving to a free but
> unsupported operating system is basically a wash (personal opinions
> aside).
>
> Is there a mechanism in place that allows the use of GPL software
> (namely Linux) in such a system? I'm looking for a condoned approach,
> not loopholes. I have nothing against delivering the source code for
> the operating system, but practically all modifications, applications,
> and drivers we create will be confidential for the reasons mentioned
> above and cannot be included in the source distribution.
>
> Much appreciated.
>
> -Dave
>
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>
The purpose of the GPL is to protect someone from taking the Linux
source and modifing, selling and not releasing the modified source.
If your applications doesnt use any of the source from Linux then there
is no problems you can develop and sell your systems without conflict.
You would do well to give them a copy of the Linux Source.
Examples Applixware, BRU, Crisp, Informix and Oracle they all sell there
apps without source.
If you take Linux source and modify it you must release the modified
source with your system.
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
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From: javierlt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: es.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: However my ATI RAGE 128 AGP 8MB =?iso-8859-1?Q?doesn=B4t?= work
Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 23:12:12 +0200
Ares escribi�:
>
> Lamento no tener la respuseta a la duda planteada, pero de todas formas
> ....
> No os parais a leer el nombre de este grupo de noticias ?????
>
> ES.comp.os.linux
>
> y Vuelvo a remarcar ES
>
> esto es Espa�ol no Ingl�s, en mi caso no tengo problema para leerlo en
> ingl�s pero creo que apra eso ya hay otros muchos grupos y es una falta
> de respeto hacia los usuarios de este grupo el hacerlo en otro idioma
> distinto al Castellano
>
> Sin otro particular un Saludo
>
> Ares
Hola
Yo plante� la pregunta inicial y soy el responsable del crossposting.
Lo hice porque en este grupo no encontr� ayuda y me tuve que ir a los
g�iris a ver qu� tal, y como da la casualidad de que hay mucha gente con
una ATI entre los dedos pensando que el guindous ya no es tan lento,
pues lo cruc� con este grupo por si servia de ayuda a alg�n paisano que
entendiera mi ingliz.
No admito ni fomento cruzar mensajes, pero pienso que de vez en cuando
puede ser �til.
Por cierto....SE SABE ALGO DE UN DRIVER PARA LA ATI RAGE 128???????????
Saludos
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Backup recommendations?
Reply-To: Dominic Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: Dominic Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 08 Jun 1999 22:02:03 -0400
Well the strategy I use to backup the system is to use both a tape
and hard drive. I run a weekly backup to the tape and I do a mirror
of the hard drive regularly from a cron job.
Cheers,
Dominic.
mk> In addition to this, most failures are single files accidentally deleted
mk> by users or corrupted for any reason. Often, you will notice the corruption of
mk> a file weeks or even months after it actually did happen. So, if you make
mk> weekly backups, you will have to buy one new HD every week... or use a tape
mk> drive.
mk> Kili
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Dominic Mitchell Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Department of Economics mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Queen's University
Kingston, Ontario
Canada, K7L 3N6 Running Linux Redhat 5.2
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.laptops,comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux.development
Subject: Re: Available: Linux driver for IBM ThinkPad ACP modem
Date: 8 Jun 1999 20:18:30 GMT
On Tue, 08 Jun 1999 14:55:50 -0400, Thomas Hood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>"Available: Linux driver for IBM ThinkPad ACP modem"
>
>That's what we'll be saying if we can convince someone to write
>a driver for the modem. I have been in contact with a person
>(whose privacy I will protect) who may be in a position to do so,
>and who thinks that it is doable.
if you mean a driver for the internal modem on i14XX, i17XX ThinkPads,
which use the Lucent chipset, please give me an address and i'll send a
check for $100 for the first driver...
>
>However, they would need to be assigned to the task by their
>employer. They have asked me to solicit e-mail from people
>who might be interested in having such a driver. This e-mail
>could be presented as proof that there is a demand for the
>driver.
>
>For the moment, please just send me email saying that you
>are interested in getting such a driver. Later I will write back
>to you asking you to send a longer e-mail to such-and-such
>an address, explaining why it would be useful to you.
>
>Let's hope this works,
>--
>Thomas Hood
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
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From: james daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: Re: Sound Card Problem
Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 01:21:55 GMT
Manzur Yazdani wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I have everything working under Linux, except for the sound card (which
> is high end YAMAHA, with a lot of features). The soundcard is not listed
>
> under RedHat 6.0 sound drivers, but I assigned the IRQ and DMA settings
> from Windows98 when I ran the sound configuration program in Red Hat.
> But I keep getting a
>
> /lib/modules/2.2.5-15/misc/sb.o:
> init_module: Device or resource busy
> sound: Device or resource busy
>
> message. Can anybody let me know if it is possible at all for Linux to
> "see" the sound card, or do I have to take it out and install a Sound
> Blaster card? The Yamaha works fine with Win 98.
>
> Please reply to:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Thanks,
>
> Manzur.
Monzur
I believe RH60 stock kernel comes with a set of sound drivers. Do a
lsmod at the shell prompt to see if sound modules are being loaded. If
they are, you can remove them by using rmmod soundcore. Repeat this
step for the remainder two modules. Move the the sound modules that are
being loaded to a temporary location and try to get you card to work
again. The sound modules are located in /lib/modules/2.2.5-15/misc.
Also you might want to see if you have a isapnp.gone or isapnp.conf file
in /etc, if so move it to a temporary location as well. If this solve
you problems, you can leve the sound modules and isapnp file in their
temp loction. Also do a man conf.modules at the shell prompt to find
out more about adding options to your /etc/conf.modules file. An
example line would be:
alias sound sb
options sb io=220 irq=5
These are just examples. Change the setting to the values you obtained
from windows. I have a sbpci 128, and did get it to work with RH60, but
the sound was poor, so I decided to purchase the OSS driver for the
card. You can check out OSS web site at www.opensound.com. Also the
ALSA software might work for you, their site is located at
www.alsa-project.org
Good luck
Jim
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From: Kevin der Kinderen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat,hepnet.freehep,linux,linux.help
Subject: Re: Sound Card problem
Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 22:36:34 -0400
What specific version of sound blaster do you have? I'm having problems
with mine also. I've got a Sound Blaster 16 WavEffects CT 4171. It's
supposed to by 16 bit but I get the error that no 16 bit DMA is found.
The info on the web site says there's no 16 bit DMA? Now what?
Kevin
"Ari P. Korhonen" wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
> I have a Sound Blaster 16-bit PnP sound card and sndconfig detects it
> properly, but after that my computer gets stuck. It is unbeliveable. I
> have tried to re-install RH6 but it didn't help. Is it a program
> malfunction or should I try some other ways to install my sound ware?
>
> Ari P. Korhonen
--
Kevin der Kinderen
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
From: "Steve Snyder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: "Steve Snyder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Fonts look terrible on XFrre86 with NeoMagic 128XD video
Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 19:48:38 GMT
I've just installed RedHat v6.0 on my Compaq Presario 1260 notebook. Using
Xconfigurator, I accepted the "MagicGraph NM2160" chipset found by the
probe, then selected "LCD 800x600" as the monitor type. Although I wasn't
allowed to select the 800x600x16bpp I normally use under Win98 (hmm...), I
can run at 640x480x16bpp.
When XFree86 (from RedHat's v3.3.3.1-49 RPMs) starts up, the fonts are
*horrible*. Some parts of the characters are very thick while other parts
are missing altogether. I have the 75dpi and 100dpi font RPMs installed.
XFree86 is fully functional, but the text is barely readable.
Speaking of things installed, I also have the xfs font server daemon
running. I see no indication (at boot time or when starting/quiting XFree)
that there is any problem with the font server.
BTW, this is not the first time I have seen this affect. This is precisely
the way Win98 looks without the NeoMagic 128XD video driver installed.
Once the appropriate video driver is installed on Win98 the text is
perfectly sharp. Apparently the contents of the video ROM alone is not
sufficient to render clear text in graphics modes.
Help! And thanks in advance.
***** Steve Snyder *****
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From: "Dan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is ATI Xpert 99 AGP 8Mb supported with Linux 6.0?
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 15:28:22 -0400
Hi,
For more Info: search this newsgroup for "ATI" and read the entries about
setting up the RAGE FURY (which uses the Rage 128 GL chipset).
I assume you're trying to get the Xpert 99 to work with X? if so... many
others here have asked the same questions.
FYI: the ATI Rage 128 series of cards aren't supported by any major
distribution. You can buy Accelerated X (http://www.xig.com), which just
built Rage 128 native mode drivers into their X Server (according to a
recent post and their web site - and no I have not tried it, as it's not
Free).
May I humbly suggest you search this newsgroup for info? That's what
newsgroups are about...
anyhow, I hope this helps.
dan
Momcilo Corovic wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Hello,
>
>I would appreciate your help on this matter:
>My Graphic card is ATI Xpert 99 AGP 8Mb SDRAM ATI
>with ATI Rage 128 VR AGP.
>This card is not recognized by the redhat Linux 5.2.
>I have tried to configure it manually but it did not work.
>
>Is this graphic card supported with the Linux 6.0?
>
>Thank you very much,
>Momcilo
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From: Mike Persell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: parallel port-super p6dbe
Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 02:25:38 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> is anyone having problems getting linux to see the parallel port on
> this board? i have redhat 6.0 and cant get my parallel port zip drive
> to work the rh install says "i cant find this device anywhere" and then
> i noticed after i got rh installed that the reason it couldn't find the
> zip was because it doesn't think i have a parallel port.
> I think this is a problem with the board though because i also have a
> win2k beta partition that gives me a conflicting device problem for the
> parallel port yet the configuration shows nothing to be conflicting.
> Yet win98,win95,dos have no problems with it
> anybody else running redhat 6.0 or any linux on this board ?
If your parallel port is running as EPP/ECP and has a DMA channel
allocated to it that may be the problem. I had to change to ECP/EPP
with no DMA allocated.
Mike
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Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 16:55:27 -0400
From: Yan Zhou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux and Western Digital 13G hard disk
Hi there,
I have a Wester Digital 13G Hard disk with Ultra DMA controller.
The disk is partitioned into 8G for Win98 (installed) with the rest
untouched.
Whenever I try to install Redhat 5.2, Linux does not even recognize
my hard drive. Any suggestions ?
Any hints are appreciated.
Yan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Kilian)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Backup recommendations?
Date: 8 Jun 1999 19:12:16 GMT
Marc Mutz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> If you really mean to *backup* your system then don't do it on a second
> hard drive. If your PC gets cooked by a lightning strike or the like,
> both HD will be killed.
In addition to this, most failures are single files accidentally deleted
by users or corrupted for any reason. Often, you will notice the corruption of
a file weeks or even months after it actually did happen. So, if you make
weekly backups, you will have to buy one new HD every week... or use a tape
drive.
Kili
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Byron A Jeff)
Subject: Re: USB support?
Date: 8 Jun 1999 16:56:24 -0400
In article <7jjt51$b0d$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Fredrik Lindstr�m <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
-
-
-does linux have any USB support? .
-
-Where kind I find info about USB linux implementations ..
-
-Regards Fredrik
Fredrik,
Search engines exist for exactly this reason. Let's see....
Infoseek got 383 hits on '+linux-usb'
Deja got 660 hits.
Point is that there's loads of information to your question.
So instead of answering, I advise you to go take a quick look. Because if
you'd done a 2 minute search, you'd already have you answers.
BAJ
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From: Jerry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Linux on closed platforms?
Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 12:27:45 +0100
Dave,
I'm not sure what your problem is here - perhaps you could descibe it in
more detail (without revealing intellectual property right of course.
I'm not a lawer but as far as I understand the GPL licence there is
nothing stopping you implementing your system under Linux. Broadly
speaking, the only thing you cannot do is to use any GPL source code in
your own code. If you do all of the code must be released under the GPL
licence. However, applications written on top of Linux, additional
device drivers etc need not contain any GPL code and therefore can be
released/sold under you own licence and you are under no obligation to
release source code...
If you need to modify the existing code then you will run into
difficulties. I can't think why you might need to - perhaps you could
explain.......
Cheers,
Jerry
Dave wrote:
>
> I work for a company that develops proprietary systems in a highly
> competitive industry. Our systems contain intellectual property either
> developed by us or licensed from others. In addition, much of this
> intellectual property is under strict export control. In summary, our
> systems are not likely to become open anytime in the near future.
>
> We have used numerous commercial operating systems (some more
> $commercial$ than others). I would like nothing better than to use
> Linux in the next product, but I'm having trouble reconciling the terms
> of the GPL with my company's interests.
>
> Please understand that my interest is not to exploit the free software
> community but to support it as best I can by promoting it through my
> company's products. We are in the business of selling systems, not
> software applications, and the savings of moving to a free but
> unsupported operating system is basically a wash (personal opinions
> aside).
>
> Is there a mechanism in place that allows the use of GPL software
> (namely Linux) in such a system? I'm looking for a condoned approach,
> not loopholes. I have nothing against delivering the source code for
> the operating system, but practically all modifications, applications,
> and drivers we create will be confidential for the reasons mentioned
> above and cannot be included in the source distribution.
>
> Much appreciated.
>
> -Dave
>
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>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.help,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: Cd-rom Install Problem
Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 02:42:19 GMT
On Tue, 08 Jun 1999 21:49:56 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
When you select "Other", you are telling the kernel that you have a
device like "Backpak" or similar. As long as your CD-ROM is a standard
ATAPI device, you should be fine
>Dudley Brooke wrote:
>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> >I am trying to install Redhat 6.0 on an old Gateway 486 DX2 66 with a Sony
>> >CDu31a Cd drive. When I select the cdu31a driver it say it can't find the
>> >drive anywhere. I tried all of the drivers. The Sony 5xx driver gives me a
>> >box saying it is initializing the drive but then gives me an error. I tried
>> >to use what the Redhat FAQ tells me to do, but it didn't work. My system
>> >consists of two hard drives, the first partitioned into two. My cd drive
>> >takes F: in dos and win95. Any help would be appreciated.
>> >
>> >Thanks,
>> >Collin
>>
>> At the boot prompt try typing 'linux hdc=cdrom' , some CDs are pretty sloppy
>> about reporting that they are CDs. I have assumed the CD is secondary master,
>> if it is an older board, and you are running it from the sound card ide
>> channel, then there is a workaround, but I can't remember, try the CDrom howto,
>> it is pretty good.
>>
>> Dudley Brooke
>
>I am new to Linux, and I am at the very beginning of trying to install Redhat 5.1
>on a 33Mhz, 8 Meg RAM, i486 system. I am having a similar problem trying
>to get the Redhat installation to recognize my Mitsumi CD-ROM.
>
>The installation keeps asking what type of CD-ROM I have; SCSI or Other.
>I respond with 'Other', and then go on to select the Mitsumi Device Driver.
>Unfortunately, I am then asked to provide I/O Base Address information, in
>the form.... mcd=<something>
>
>I do currently have Windows95 on this particular system, which I am going to
>complete over-write with Linux. My Win95 system tells me that the Base I/O
>address of the CD-ROM is 0320-0323.
>
>From the documentation I read on the Redhat site, it looks like I am supposed
>to respond mcd=io_port,IRQ during the Redhat installation.
>
>I tried various combinations of mcd=0320,15 .... mcd=320,12 .... but nothing
>seems to work.
>
>Can anyone provide me with some suggestions ?
>
>/Alan
>
>
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