Linux-Hardware Digest #587, Volume #10 Fri, 25 Jun 99 10:13:32 EDT
Contents:
Oddly shaped PPC ne2k-pci ethernet packets (Andrew Chadwick)
Some Hardware for Linux (Kari Laine)
Buying new computer-help (Richard)
Re: NICs needed badly (Keith)
CREATIVE LABS _SLOW_ SBLIVE DRIVER DEVELOPMENT (Matthew Lenz)
Re: Linux port for STPC or Net+Arm? ("Walter Harms")
Re: Windows easy to install? BULLSHIT! (Brian Hartman)
Re: SyJet help (Grant Guenther)
Re: Identifying USR modem (Rob Clark)
Re: Identifying USR modem (Goodell)
What is the best Fast Ethernet 100Mbs card for linux??? (interzone)
Floppy tape driver problem (Jean Scailteur)
Building a Dual system: advice wanted (brian)
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From: Andrew Chadwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.powerpc,uk.comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Oddly shaped PPC ne2k-pci ethernet packets
Date: 25 Jun 1999 10:55:12 GMT
Can any gurus help me? I have a problem with an NE2000 clone (don't
groan--read on :) on a PPC which might be caused by the driver rather than
by my stupidity in configuring it. Apologies for the long list of tcpdumps
and ifconfigs.
Besides it would be in everyone's interest to get this fixed, as PCI ne2k
clones are a lot cheaper than complicated Open Firmware-enabled
ethercards. (hmm. thinking like a poor student again there :)
Thanks in advance,
Andrew.
*The actors:
duodecimo: a Fujitsu 110 Lifebook, Processor: Pentium II @233MHz,
ethercard is a PCMCIA Xircom CreditCard IIps (known working and
configured OK via pcmcia-cs). Linux kernel 2.2.7 (unpatched).
piffle: an Apple PowerMac 4400/160, Processor: PowerPC 603e @160MHz,
ethercard is a cheapo 'software confifurable' 8390-based PCI NE2000
clone made by Genius (drivers are right, card config is OK, but it
just doesn't seem to work). Kernel 2.2.7 (unpatched).
the string: properly teed and terminated 10base2.
*Symptoms
piffle does not send any TCP packets that are even recognised by the
other machine, although they're seen at SAP level by the ethercard and
the kernel at the other end. Packets sent by duodecimo are at least
seen at the TCP level by piffle, but they're all errors.
These ifconfigs are after a few "ping -v"s either way, and are by no
means synchronized:
**duodecimo ifconfig:
lo Link encap:Local Loopback
inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0
UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:3924 Metric:1
RX packets:14447 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:14447 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
Collisions:0
eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:80:C7:26:FD:91
inet addr:192.168.101.2 Bcast:192.168.101.255 Mask:255.255.255.0
UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:343 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
Collisions:0
Interrupt:3 Base address:0x300
**piffle ifconfig:
eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:C0:DF:EE:15:4F
inet addr:192.168.101.1 Bcast:192.168.101.255 Mask:255.255.255.0
UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:0 errors:395 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:2979 errors:8 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:8
collisions:136 txqueuelen:100
Interrupt:25 Base address:0x400
^^^^^
*** Possible problem #1: this clashes on the PCI bus with the on-board ATI
*** mach64 graphics chips. But the gfx chips' IO ports are disabled.
lo Link encap:Local Loopback
inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0
UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:3924 Metric:1
RX packets:3019 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:3019 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
Just to see what was happening and why the lifebook wasn't recognising
the powerpc's ethernet packets, I did a couple of TCPdumps:
**duodecimo tcpdump of piffle pinging duodecimo:
22:15:52.131492 ff:ff:4f:15:ee:df sap 08 > ff:ff:ff:ff:c0:0 ip-sap I
(s=2,r=3,C) len=46
0008 c000 0100 4f15 eedf 0165 a8c0 0000
0000 a8c0 0000 0265 6d6b 3fe7 ebee ef3e
6ffd a9fe 7fef dfd6 f9be ca71 2ab0
22:15:53.131437 ff:ff:4f:15:ee:df sap 08 > ff:ff:ff:ff:c0:0 ip-sap I
(s=2,r=3,C) len=46
0008 c000 0100 4f15 eedf 0165 a8c0 0000
0000 a8c0 0000 0265 6d6b 3fe7 ebee ef3e
6ffd a9fe 7fef dfd6 f9be ca71 2ab0
22:15:54.131883 ff:ff:4f:15:ee:df sap 08 > ff:ff:ff:ff:c0:0 ip-sap I
(s=2,r=3,C) len=46 ^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^
^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^
*** Almost certainly the real problem: an endianness probblem here?
*** Besides, that should be "card-addr > ff:ff:ff:ff:ff", no?
0008 c000 0100 4f15 eedf 0165 a8c0 0000
0000 a8c0 0000 0265 6d6b 3fe7 ebee ef3e
6ffd a9fe 7fef dfd6 f9be ca71 2ab0
22:15:55.131364 ff:ff:4f:15:ee:df sap 08 > ff:ff:ff:ff:c0:0 ip-sap I
(s=2,r=3,C) len=46
0008 c000 0100 4f15 eedf 0165 a8c0 0000
0000 a8c0 0000 0265 6d6b 3fe7 ebee ef3e
6ffd a9fe 7fef dfd6 f9be ca71 2ab0
**piffle tcpdump -x of piffle pinging duodecimo:
21:26:39.170000 arp who-has duodecimo tell piffle
0001 0800 0604 0001 00c0 dfee 154f c0a8
6501 0000 0000 0000 c0a8 6502
21:26:40.170000 arp who-has duodecimo tell piffle
0001 0800 0604 0001 00c0 dfee 154f c0a8
6501 0000 0000 0000 c0a8 6502
21:26:41.170000 arp who-has duodecimo tell piffle
0001 0800 0604 0001 00c0 dfee 154f c0a8
6501 0000 0000 0000 c0a8 6502
21:26:42.170000 arp who-has duodecimo tell piffle
0001 0800 0604 0001 00c0 dfee 154f c0a8
6501 0000 0000 0000 c0a8 6502
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kari Laine)
Subject: Some Hardware for Linux
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 11:23:29 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dear All,
I would need a good SCSI PCMIA adapter for my laptop. Naturally Linux
should support it.
Then I would need a good SCSI CD-Burner to connect to that card. I
will have a look for the XCDRoast list of supported drives but I would
welcome any war stories.
Also I would need a 10MB ethernet adapter which would connect to
parallel port and be supported by Linux. I need this to install Linux
on machines which don't have CD-Roms and ethernet adapter(old
laptops). I found one such adaptor in BlackBox catalog but I don't
know if it is supported by Linux. If there is none I might consider
writing driver myself. Xircom used to have such adaptors but I did not
find any listed on their web-page.
I would love a copy of your answer by email. I have about 60.000
messages to read from different linux-groups :-)
Best Regards
Kari Laine
LinuxWare Oy http://personal.inet.fi/business/linuxware
Tel. +358-(0)19-334618 Fax +358-(0)19-334627
GSM +358-(0)400-480273 Home +358-(0)19-334616
Hiidenm�enkuja 15, 03100 NUMMELA, FINLAND
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard)
Subject: Buying new computer-help
Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 06:08:12 GMT
I am thinking about buying a new computer and I want to have Win98 and
some version of Linux(probably RedHat) running on it---any advice
would be appreciated.
One computer I am looking at from Quantex has:
Pent II 400 MHz
17G Ultra ATA hard drive
128 MB PC100 SDRAM
3Dfx Voodoo3 2000 AGP video,16 MB
SoundBlaster AudioPCI 64V Wavetable 3D Sound
Would this be a good choice for running Linux or are any of these
incompatible with Linux?
Richard
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From: Keith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: NICs needed badly
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 10:13:55 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hello, I am in desperate need for 10 NICs for my RedHat Linux 5.2
boxes.
>
I've had good results with the following: 3c905b, 3c590, SMC Ultra
(sorry forgotten the chip number), and NE2000 cards. I'll probably try
out a 3C905Tx sometime soon too.
I've seen several people on uk.adverts.computer offering 3c905b cards
at reasonable prices, or there are lots of NE2000 clones which should
work well.
I'm sure all this information is in the compatibility list somewhere.
Keith.
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From: Matthew Lenz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: CREATIVE LABS _SLOW_ SBLIVE DRIVER DEVELOPMENT
Date: 24 Jun 1999 20:31:02 GMT
Am I the only one who is unimpressed with creative not devoting some
serious man hours to the sblive driver development? 0.2b is crap, it works
with a couple of the standard applications (xmms/x11amp) "kind of" but
works horribly with every other sound enabled application/game I've tried.
Q3test seems to be forced into 8/22/stereo and is chunky as hell.. here's
what i dont get. Creative, why are you wasting your time working on
Banshee drivers for god sakes. Daryll Strauss' drivers are a ton better
than the ones you are releasing. YOU are the manufacturer of the SBLive,
YOU are the only people who can develope a driver for this card.
I'm not entirely sure that you've designed this chipset (probably not) but
you are the only major player who is selling this specific board, so why
not do your part and actively get this driver working in tip top condition.
you will get much more appreciation from the linux community if you release
ONE solid driver as opposed to 3 crappy ones. also, there is absolutely
_no_ reason why a serious linux device driver shouldnt be compiled and made
available for every current stable kernel release.
Who knows.. maybe i'm wrong about this.. maybe you are working actively on
a driver that atleast has all the capabilities of an awe64. if so, you
should be more involved with the linux community .. i've never once
received a confirmation of the many bug reports i've sent to you.. thats
just absolute crap..
anyway.. i'm done ranting.. flames>/dev/null .. i'm sure thats where the
bug reports go..
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From: "Walter Harms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux port for STPC or Net+Arm?
Date: 24 Jun 1999 16:59:52 GMT
"GTE News" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>Is there a Linux port to either of these processors available?
>Any info is greatly appreciated.
there is a port for ARM processors (arcorn and friends)
walter
>Thanks,
>Kent (Remove 'nospam' for email)
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From: Brian Hartman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Windows easy to install? BULLSHIT!
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 12:56:15 -0400
Alex Lam wrote:
> Brian Hartman wrote:
> >
> > Alex Lam wrote:
> >
> (snipped)
> >
> > >
> > > Heck. You should consider yourself lucky... on my Win98 box, it decided
> > > that I have added new hardware, and decided to update all the things for
> > > me without having me to click "OK", then, it went into its own freeze
> > > and rebooted, after that, my LAN was as dead as the chicken I had for
> > > dinner the night before, and when I click on shut down, it'll just hangs
> > > there for hours... the only way to shut off was to turn the power
> > > off.....
> > >
> >
> > This is one reason I won't run 95/98 on my machine. The more complex the tasks,
>the more
> > likely you are to experience problems. '98 is really just an updated 95, and was
>never
> > designed (although you'd never know it from the ads) as a real workhorse. MS
>wants you to
> > buy NT for that.
> >
> Don't forget I have NT as well (4.0 with sp-3, installed sp-4, but it
> was causing too much problem, so
> I nuked sp-4). NT a work horse? You must be pulling my leg... It'll
> crash even if you try to delete a few
> hundred MB of files at a time. (yes, I was deleting about 1 gig of audio
> data after I transferred those data to CD-R, NT just bellied up, could
> not even handle that simple task. (I got 192 MB of RAM in that box and a
> 200MB swap space.)
Well, I think I said it was "designed" as a workhorse, not necessarily that it *is*
one. And
deleting stuff has nothing to do with the processor or anything like that. It's highly
unlikely that an OS problem caused the crash. At worst, during the delete your hard
drive
probably hiccuped, and NT got stuck. I've had problems in NT with my hard drive, and
it turns
out my drive has a few bad sectors, apparently in bad places. Still, my NT
installation stayed
up even in situations which I would expect to crash it (my cooling fan konking out and
my
machine way hotter than it should have been, for example). And I've deleted as much
as 1 GB
at a time (nuking an entire hard drive at once so I could free that Windows space for
Linux,
for example) without a problem. Then again, I never installed SP4. Maybe there are
some
vulnerabilities there. But the fact remains, NT is much more stable than 98, and less
likely
to cause major problems. In the 3 years I've been running NT (or thereabouts) I've
had to
reinstall maybe 3 times.
>
>
> NT means *N*ew *T*roubles. That's it! Want more horror stories?
>
> (snipped)
>
> > > Try to use Windoze 98 for some really cpu and memory intensive stuff.
> > > It'll sure freezes up.
> > >
> >
> > Again, Win98 isn't really designed for really intensive stuff. It's simply not
>robust
> > enough. The guy who bought the laptop obiviously didn't see the folly of
>installing 98 on
> > the same machine he had Linux on. It's just not built to handle the same kind of
>tasks.
> >
> Yeah, if you want to do anything more than playing Doom, forget Win 98.
> It's a piece of bloated junk. DOS gone VFAT (Very Fat.)
It'll run most productivity apps (aka office suites) fine, but it can't handle very
much more
than that with any grace.
>
>
> Alex Lam.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Guenther)
Subject: Re: SyJet help
Date: 25 Jun 1999 10:59:52 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 24 Jun 1999 15:54:20 -0400, Bill Andersen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have a SyJet drive I want to hook up to my PC (Gateway
>E-5200). I'm running Red Hat Linux 5.2. Anyone know how to
>do this or maybe where I can look to find out?
Is the drive IDE, SCSI or parallel/SCSI ?
If it's IDE or SCSI, it is supported by the standard kernels.
If you have the PP version, contact me directly for more information.
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Grant R. Guenther [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Identifying USR modem
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rob Clark)
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 11:51:29 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Goodell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>This may not be the best place to ask, but does anybody know how to
>identify USR modems by model/product numbers? The USR/3Com site is
>worthless. I need to know so that I can set up my ppp.
>
>The model # is 0266 and the product # is 550 5315 A (at least I think
>it's the product #). The modem is pretty old, Copyright 1994.
The "550 5315 A" is the Industry Canada approval number. You will also
probably find an FCC registration number of CJEUSA-65828-FA-E printed on
the back of the modem.
This sounds like a plain vanilla ISA Sportster Faxmodem with jumpers. The
exact revision number of the modem can be found by sending an "ATI3" to
the modem and reading the response (e.g., "SPORTSTER 14400 FAX RS Rev.
1.7")
Good luck!
Rob Clark, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.o2.net/~gromitkc/winmodem.html
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From: Goodell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Identifying USR modem
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 07:54:17 -0400
Thanks for the web site, I think I'll be able to do it now. BTW, how did you
find that? I looked on the 3com site for about 45min and couldn't find anything
like it.
Thanks,
--Dave
Giorgio Casinovi wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Goodell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >This may not be the best place to ask, but does anybody know how to
> >identify USR modems by model/product numbers? The USR/3Com site is
> >worthless. I need to know so that I can set up my ppp.
>
> Have you tried http://consumer.3com.com/modem/upgrades/index.html ?
>
> Once you have identified your product code, click on
> "I already know my product code" and follow the
> instructions. Clicking on "View Product Information"
> will identify the type of modem with that product
> code.
>
> --
> Giorgio Casinovi, Senior Research Engineer
> Information Technology & Telecommunications Lab
> Georgia Tech Research Institute, Atlanta, GA 30332-0832
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: interzone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: What is the best Fast Ethernet 100Mbs card for linux???
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 15:08:08 +0200
I need to establish a network , and I want to buy Fast Ethernet 100Mbs
cards...
Which one are known to work the best with linux? Not in speed, in term
of stability , and compatibility...
I have Redhat 5.2 (kernel 2.3.6) 128 MB ram, P2 333MHZ KDE 1.1.1...
so what cards I should buy, that the driver is stable, and I will have
the less problems to make it work....
I wait for your help ....
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From: Jean Scailteur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Floppy tape driver problem
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 15:11:46 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I cannot use my floppy tape (a CONNER CTT3200I-F tape driver). I've
installed Suse 6.1 (kernel 2.2.7) on a Dell box, the ftape module has
been loaded at boot time.
Whenever I try to use the tape driver (mt or cpio, tar ...), the system
is answering:
"Operation not supported by device"
Any suggestion ??
Jean
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From: brian <"bpd1069"@toadmail.toad. net>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Building a Dual system: advice wanted
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 08:38:53 -0400
I am still piecing together a dual celeron system and am trying hard to
keep the components Linux friendly. My intention is to have a dual boot
system (maybe more when i can afford more drives). I need advice on the
last of the component:
SoundCard (want the most full featured card possible that is stable
under Linux)
VidCard (pretty much narrowed down to a Voodoo3 3000)
non-Winmodem (int/ext)
tape backup
CD drive...
Right now I have the core of the componets already :
19" Shamrock Monitor
256Megs non-ecc cas-2 8ns DIMMs
13.6 Quantum CX series hard drive IDE
Epox KP6 dual 100Mhz motherboard
dual 300a celerons ppga confirmed @ 463Mhz /2.0v
Englight EN8900 case (4 fans)
Enlight 300W powersupply (non-swappable)
I plan on making the system dual bootable with Linux RH 6.0/NT and
adding BeOS in the future as time and money permits.
Yes it is a overclocked machine, basically i am gearing up for Quake3A,
but I don't want to be locked into NT as an OS, so this will be my first
solid attempt at a linux box.
any and all comments apprecitated, cuz none of my pointy headed friends
no jack about linux compatible hardware.
bpd
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